What If Zuko Never Lost His Honor?
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Zuko is one of the more important figures within Avatar: The Last Airbender. He was at first the catalyst that caused the Gaang to move from place to place seeking refuge, but he became far more than that. When Aang had no one left to teach him Firebending, Zuko, having been driven out by his sister, joined Team Avatar, bringing with him all the knowledge he had accumulated over the years, including that which he had gained from Uncle Iroh. But this all cascaded down because of one simple moment, and that was Zuko’s duel against the Fire Lord, and his refusal to accept that one had to make the hard decisions and be ruthless if one was to rule the Fire Nation. But what if Zuko had fought Ozai? Well, let’s just see.
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The Life of Shinji Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
You should do a One Piece what if
What if iruka adopted naruto please?
Zuko said it himself, "You giving me this scar is the best thing you've done for me".
No. Banishing him is the best thing he did. The scar means nothing without a follow-up.
@@0deadx21the banishment is intrinsically linked to the scar, so referring only to the scar isn't necessarily wrong
@@kaiseramadeus233 True
He said banishing not the scar.
He hated the scar
@@Epic_Memer_Man The scar was linked to the banishment, a permanent mark of a loss of his honor and his banishment. So what I'm trying to say when saying, " Zuko said it himself, "You giving me this scar is the best thing you've done for me", I mean him losing his honor, was the best thing that could've happened to him.
I think the real answer to this video is: We wouldn't see one of the greatest character developments of all time
We would but he wouldn’t see a positive development
@@nolufefemaho891 He wouldn't exactly have a negative one either, just neutral as another tool for Ozai. While Zuko definitely would've captured Aang, his true honor stops him from killing him or letting him free so it just feels typical instead
My brain couldn’t compute when I saw the title, it’s like saying what if aang wasn’t the avatar.
Lol
That might actually be a good what if tho
Oh, now _that's_ a good idea.
@@tbnelsonassociate nah depending on if the current avatar was or wasn't an Airbender ither aang along with the Airbenders gets killed on sozins comet or dies in the war
Me bro
Zuko's honor was up his sleeve the whole time!
Prince Zuko!!! Look! Your honor was up my sleeve the whole time!!!!!
@@yaboikingkai3475*YEETS IT INTO THE RIVER*
Yeah. My biggest problem with the whole "Zuko lost his honor when his father said so" is that, well, "having honor" is defined by the whims of one man. Defending those soldiers was one of the most honorable things he could do while still in Fire Nation, and I will die on this hill.
@@Kasiarzynka And that is precisely the point of his character.
@@Kasiarzynka He didn't lose his honor when his dad said so, he lost his honor in battle since being spared while you're crying or begging for mercy is dishonorable. The whole point is that in turn, Zuko finds what true honor really is and gains an even higher honor than what he would have if he won against Ozai and ultimately becomes one of the best characters in cartoon history
If he lost his honor, he never would have TRULY GAINED it.
Zuko never lost his honor. He was the only person in his family (aside from Iroh) that had any in the first place.
And Ursa, I guess
My thoughts exactly. He thought he lost his honor, that the scar was a reminder of his failure, a shame upon himself. But both ideas are wrong. He got burned because his father was an abusive piece of shit, AND he was the only one in the room who dared to speak up FOR his people instead of treating them like cannon fodder. That scar was proof that he was a prince who would sacrifice himself for his people, who would FIGHT for his people (remember, he was willing to duel the general to stand by his words). The scar was proof he was twice the Firelord his father could ever be.
@@theorangeoof926Ursa isnt as honourable as Zuko.
A better candidate would be Lu Ten
What would have been absolutely amazing is if Azulas flames started turning back to red/orange during her final fight with Zuko is the series. Her hair was a symbol of her mental collapse, her fire should have show her physical collapse as she struggles to control herself.
Awesome detail. ❤
In the show the fire strength is about emotions azusa wanted to show power and went crazy that is the whole reason it is blue
@Epic_Memer_Man Its blue because she's a perfectionist. Blue flames in real life means complete combustion, so a perfect burn/flame. Azulas' training allowed her to achieve perfect fire bending being dedicated and mentally and physically strong. Plus, it's a really good play on her name, where Azul is Blue in Spanish.
@sonorangaming4450 ypu don't need complete combustion for blue flames.
Also it isn't the carbon monoxide burning that gives it a blue colour it is just its high heat
@Epic_Memer_Man Unless you are burning something like copper, you do. Blue is the hottest of the flame color, *because* it burns the purest due to sufficient oxygen to fully break down the carbon into carbon dioxide and water. Blue means the fuel is burning efficiently and with no waste. Pure gas burns easier than organics such as wood. It's the reason you need good ventilation if you use a wood stove in your house. It sucks up oxygen and produces a ton of carbon monoxide and smoke. Gas stoves and water heaters are safe because the flames produced by the gas are pure and produce carbon dioxide. If your gas stove or water heater does NOT burn blue, turn it off, open your house, and call a repair technician. Your stove is producing carbon monoxide due to an incomplete combustion.
I love how this is just speculative fanfiction
When is fanfiction not speculative?
Ships exist
@user-KNP13
hahahaha thats funny
@@MiqdadJR And?
Ozai was ashamed of himself, not Zuko.
Ozai was projecting his shame of himself onto Zuko, he hated Zuko because he hated himself.
Ozai saw Zuko as himself, the less talented of two siblings who did not have his father's approval.
Iroh not only was the brighter and favored sibling between himself and Ozai, he would go on to be known as a successful Fire Nation War General named "Dragon of the West".
Zuko had his mother's heart and his Uncle who loved him, he was free to be whoever he wished but didn't know it.
Zuko didn't need Ozai's approval or twisted sense of honor to be Human or to be loved, that's all he ever wanted but he had both of those things all along.
You know ozai was the strongest firebender
@@nightwolfnordberg9476 No, Iroh throughout the series was hinted as being stronger than Ozai.
The strongest fire bender generally, I imagine was Roku.
@@chrisleaf actually iroh was uncertain if he could beat ozai.
@@nightwolfnordberg9476 because he trained his ass of not because he is prodigy
@nightwolfnordberg9476 iroh was only uncertain because he was so old compared to ozai who was in his prime
Who else loves Avatar?
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1. What if Azula was banished instead of Zuko
2. What if there Zuko and Azula had a younger/older sibling
3. What if Naruto was more like his father
4. What if Naruto and Sasuke personality swapped
5. What if Sakura was the 9 tails jinchuriki instead
6. What if Naruto wasn’t a jinchuriki at all
Number 6 was done.
5 is sorta done
What if all jinchiriki had kyubi chakra link modes like Naruto
2 was done, they have a half sibling named Kiyi
That is a great what if idea.
Finally. An Iroh vs Ozai agnikai.
You knew damn well The Great Uncle Iroh was gonna win it and there was no doubt about it.
@@destroyer16690it was said by the creators that Ozai is the strongest firebender but iroh was way more smarter and it makes sense why he won
@@Tenno-y7i my brain is too stupid to understand if you're tryna tell me that I'm wrong or if you're tryna tell me that I'm right.
@@destroyer16690 Yes.
@@AxleBoost what?
Zuko lost no "honor" when he was driven out of the fire nation.
Zuko traveled across the globe looking for approval from Ozai that he didn't need. He didn't realize that Iroh, who stood at his side the entire time, was basically his only family all along.
He was disowned by a biological father that was never truly his father.
Ozai had no honor. He not only scarred his own son, but later in life was willing to strike him with lightning while his back was turned and swords withdrawn.
The only time Zuko lost something important was when he thought Iroh hated him after he betrayed Iroh.
Iroh saw his nephew Zuko as his second chance at being a father after he lost his son Lu Ten to war in the name of the Fire Nation.
Iroh essentially failed his son Lu Ten by leading him to follow in his footsteps as a fire nation general and thought that he failed Zuko as well when Zuko returned to the Fire Nation.
After losing Lu Ten, Iroh learned important lessons about the value of life that he sought to pass on to Zuko.
Iroh was the only known person to look away when Ozai burned Zuko during that fire duel.
Ozai never had any honor and he was never the rightful Firelord.
Zuko lost honor with the fire nation. Honor isn't a concept to these people, it has implications and a meaning. His losing honor was his losing his place in his nation
@@jessicathompson236he was both
I wonder if his children would carry the stain or would they be allowed in if they were pure fire nation.
Interesting take. While watching ATLA years ago, I wondered, "What would happen if Zuko just asked for permission to speak freely and was granted it?"
Would there still be a fight for his honor or not? I wouldn't think so, as he *did* ask for permission, instead of just shouting his objection. Or if not, he could always ask to speak privately about the matter at a later time.
I think they will still be fight. Or Zuko would be just banished but without task of catching the Avatar. Or just thrown into cell
@@jovanarosic3606At most the change would be that it wouldn't be public
"Do I have permission to speak?"
"No"
"...ok"
The Amagi is looking inward, and and answering us the big questions.
YOU HAD A GOOD TIMELINE, AND THEN YOU HAD NOWHERE TO GO
Love these ALTA what ifs, Zuko is my favourite character and it was interesting to see your take on this.
“My brother Ozzie died long ago” that is such a cold line 🥶🥶🥶
Ozzie?
ozzie 🥶🥶
Ozai**
*Ozai
@@MiqdadJR Fire Lord Ozzie Osbourne.
Great story. I feel like an easier method for Zuko to capture Aang and maybe even get the Northern Water Tribe to capitulate would be to marry Yue. If he used diplomacy and wrote a letter to Arnook with the proposal that the Fire Nation will not attack Agna Qel'a if he agrees to betroth him to Yue. This will tie Azula's hands because she would not be allowed to mobilize the navy to invade in the middle of a deal being brokered between the two nations. Under the guise of meeting/marrying his new bride, Zuko would be invited into the city with a personal escort. There he would get to meet Aang, and at some point he and his men would spring their trap to capture him. Now, I know this would have been dishonorable. But clearly this version of Zuko seems more flexible when it comes to questions about morality thanks to Ozai's influence. Also if his marriage with Yue still happens. Then all that is left to do is knock off his dear father in law, as that would allow Yue to inherit the Water Tribe throne, thus making Zuko the new chief by marriage. Thus allowing the Fire Nation to conquer the the NWT without any bloodshed.
Even with all this I feel Aang would find a way to escape
@@egganegga that's called plot armor
@coyolord8031 Actually, that's called the avatar state.
@@baconlovingvampire4523 its both cuz avatar state really only activates when the plot is about to end and still needs to keep going
@@coyolord8031 The avatar state is literally mentioned that it activates in times of distress if it is not mastered.
Now that you’re doing more Avatar, I feel like I can suggest this:
What if Ty Lee was an airbender?
Some other UA-camrs have already made this what if
This was very well written and enjoyable to listen to, it definitely earned me subscribeing and likeing.
Zuko never lost his honor he was just looking for it in the wrong place.
I really liked this video. Intriguing, good writing, logical extraction of characters. Well done
I hope you do a what if from The Legend of Korra called "What if Asami was an Equalist spy?"
That was supposed to happen originally, but the creators changed their minds. How ironic that idea ended up becoming popular in fanfiction?
Why is that Ironic?
@@user-KNP13 It was supposed to happen in canon, but the creators didn't go through with it. The idea ended up becoming popular in fanfiction as a result.
Blud was about to recreate the scar incident 💀
God the "Azula almost looked like she was two steps away from an aneurism" had me crying laughing it fit so perfectly there🤣🤣
He did not lose his honor. His father just never had any.
What if Korra never lost her connection to her past Avatar lives?
I would actually want to see that ngl
@@Thebestemerald4same
Through Aang and Yangchen she would probably have better guidance on how to deal with Zaheer.
Do not mention that name
This video is pointless because my boy never lost his honour in the original timeline anyway.
What if Hinata has a tailed beast?
What if Sakura & Sasuke swap clan?
What if Ino Yamanaka was in Team 7?
What if Tsunade adopted Naruto?
What if Orochimaru never turned evil?
What if Kaguya reincarnated as Sakura?
What if Gaara befriended Shukaku?
What if Sakura was Naruto’s Twin Sister?
What if Sannin & Team 7 switch places?
Last one might actually be a S-tier what if
Sakura and Sasuke clan swapping is GENIUS and Orochimaru never going evil is just perfect hope they see this
@@viviantyus5066 Sakura does not have a clan she is from civilian family
And when the world needed him most he returned
That was beautiful!!!!! Thank you soo much, please make more avatar videos!
This was very well done. Congrats!
Hey The Amagi, the time has come, the Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest anime is coming out on July 2024. So I highly recommend that next please upload :“WHAT IF THE ENTIRE NARUTO CAST WERE IN FAIRY TAIL?”. The Reason is because I come up with Questions I wish to Know that could also help you as you draft out the Story:
1) Will the Origin of Chakra and Ethernano (Magic) start off with Kaguya Ōtsutsuki coming to Earthland and becoming the first wielder of Chakra and Ethernano on Earthland?
2) Will Kaguya’s Last name be Yakuma or Ōtsutsuki in this What if Story?
3) After Hagoromo and Hamura defeat Kaguya and the Ten Tails, will Hagoromo create the Eighteen Battle Gods of Yakuma, which includes not only Yagd Rigola and Ikusa-Tsunagi, but also the Nine tailed Beasts: Shukaku, Matatabi, Isobu, Son Goku, Kokuo, Saiken, Chomei, Gyuki and Kurama?
4) Will the Story of Indra and Asura in this What if Story be the same as in the Original Naruto Timeline?
5) Will Black Zetsu manipulate events in this What if Story like: Zeref getting cursed by Ankhseram, The Dragon King Festival, the 400 Year Plan, The Civil War between the Senju and Uchiha Clan. All in order to set the stage for Project "Tsuki no Me"
6) In the FAIRY TAIL ZERØ arc, After the end of the Civil War between the Senju and Uchiha Clan, will Hashirama Senju, Madara Uchiha, Tobirama Senju and Izuna Uchiha helped found the Fairy Tail Guild along with Precht Gaebolg, Warrod Sequen, Yuri Dreyar & Mavis Vermillion?
7) Will there be both a Wizard Guild Master and Shinobi Kage Leadership system at the same time?
8) Will Magnolia be part of an extended part of the Hidden Leaf Village?
9) Will the Nine Tailed Beasts (or Eighteen Battle Gods in this Story) be distributed amongst the Hidden Villages/Wizard Guilds in order to stabilize the balance of power between them.
10) After Zeref Dropped off Mavis’s lifeless body at the Fairy Tail Guild, does he come back to Magnolia/ The Hidden Leaf Village with Kurama and battles Hashirama and Madara?
11) Will Zeref be the one to manipulate Kurama into attacking Magnolia/The Hidden Leaf Village instead of Obito Uchiha?
12) Will Fugaku Uchiha help Minato with sealing the Yang half of Kurama inside Naruto and the Yin Half of Kurama inside Kushina?
13) After Orochimaru escapes Magnolia (The Hidden Leaf Village), does he join the dark guild Grimoire Heart afterwards?
14) How can the Tail Beast Extraction of all Jinchūriki be prevented so that all of them can assemble when the Final Battle happens? Will there be a Yang-Yin system where half of the Tailed Beast gets extracted while the other half remains inside their Jinchūriki Host?
15) After the disbandment of Grimoire Heart, does Crime Sorcière get found by Orochimaru, Jellal Fernandes, Ultear Milkovich and Meredy?
16) How will the events of the Story Arcs in the Fairy Tail anime be different with the characters from the Naruto universe around?
17) How will the events in Fairy Tail: Phoenix Priestess and Fairy Tail: Dragon Cry be different with the characters from the Naruto universe around?
18) Will the event of the Alvarez Empire Arc be part where Zeref and Black Zetsu activate the Infinite Tsukuyomi?
19) How will the Battle against Zeref, Acnologia and Kaguya Ōtsutsuki play out?
20) How will the events of Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest be different with the characters from the Naruto universe around?
This is what i thought it would happen in this situation, basingse wasnt a thing, but zuko and azula duel and iroh taking over and winning vs ozai, many people dont remember that when we meet ozai, besides when zuko counters his lightning, he is extremely boosted. i think iroh simply didnt want to kill his family again and had hope both zuko and azula didnt turn out like his brother, with his help
fun vbideo
but the problem in title is Zuko never lost his honor
the reason he was kick out of his home was he had honor and didnt want to blindly give it up
he was gaslight into thinking he had no honor
We know it’s just a fun video title
okay Zuko as an Airborn Pioneer is intressting
You're a talented writer. Really finding these spin-offs to be quite a lot of fun.
I also swear that Ozai's justifications are exactly those that a fascist would use to justify their own behavior -- combined with treating their children as personal property.
To me, Zuko never lost his honor. It was his father that lost his honor the moment he demanded to fight his 12 year old son.
He never lost his honour, he just confused it with his childish yearning for parental approval.
I liked this video, but the only thing I disliked somewhat was Iroh's justification for killing Ozai. Personally, I feel like Iroh should have spared Ozai because even though Iroh believed Ozai in his nature would kill his own son, he had never done so or insinuated he would. I also think it would show a lesson on how Azula and Zuko should treat each other as siblings: with compassion and love, not fire.
Killing Ozai still works, but I wished it was said in the story that he killed him because he was a threat to peace rather than his line about Ozai no longer being his brother. Not only would this make sense, but it also makes a contrast between the heroic characters of Aang and Iroh. While they both believe in peace, Iroh is willing to kill if that is what is necessary to protect it. Point being, I don't think Iroh killing Ozai in front of his children should have been treated as quickly as it was.
What if oazi died early 🤔
When he was fire lord or when Azulon was fire lord? If it's the former then Azula would've become fire lord way earlier. If it's the latter then Azula would've still become fire lord because Iroh would be too emotionally damaged after the loss of his son to be fire lord and Azulon always viewed Zuko as a weakling, so Azula would've became fire lord as a small child. Lol in both scenarios Azula wins.
@controlman7490 What if Azula was fitelord earlier 🤔 as a video 📹
In the words of a wise man
He was searching for a father but he already one
21:36 "Azula almost looked like she was teo steps away from aneurysm" lol😭
Honestly I'm looooving these plots you come out with. They're really well executed! They're also highly entertaining! I'm subbing just for the chance to see more of that! I didn't realize I needed this itch scratched 😅
What if Aang emerged from the iceberg a year later than he actually did?
What if Ozai killed Zuko during the Day of Black Sun? And what if Zuko redirected the lightning to kill Ozai?
What if Azula never learned Zuko and Iroh were in Ba Sing Se during the coup?
What if Zuko and Aang became friends after the Blue Spirit incident?
The second one is interesting and I'd like to think if Zuko redirected it at his father it would leave a scar paying back his father for what was given to him.
The third he wasn't ready for that yet but he was on the path in order to be friends earlier, they would need to start the process earlier so maybe the necklace part.
Finally a Good Avatar Story
Can we all talk about the fact that zuko has a freaking white flame, that goes hard
azula blue flame represent a more hotter and destructive heat while white flame represent a more consentrated and focused heat which is more destructive than blue flame
This is low-key better than the actual story
What if Ursa never leaves her children, and she, Zuko, and Azula went into hiding away from the Fire Nation?
Ozai literally says he would track them down and kill them
@@Alerion_HellafunnyOnly if Azula was taken if Zuko was he wouldn't care.
He still has that peaceful moment and would take the throne to world peace by learning firebending first by Zuko Wateebending from the North Pole the toon for earth bending so zuko and Aang and iron would have a plan to stop ozai.
Love this alternate universe story. Although I am intrigued by Zuko's white flames as it represents Zuko's purity and honor to Azula's cruel and coldness. I wonder if its canon that firebenders can turn their flames white? Because that is a cool concept.
Pretty sure it was one of the Kyoshi novels.
Oh! An Avatar one! A nice change of pace.
Oh man. Iroh vs Ozai would’ve been fucking tasty 🔥
Zuko didn't need to be made heir, he was known as Crown Prince Zuko for years. He was always the heir
Great story! I really enjoyed it. Any story about Zuko is always welcome.
I'm laughing my ass off, Ozai is such a bastard. Great job lol
What if ozai was a loving father 😂😂😂
Zuko is my best fictional character
He never did if we are talking about the war meeting.
Him going against that general showed that Zuko had the markings of a strong king.
The whole "honor" thing was in his head.
Zuko wouldn't be able to fight Ozai here but once he was fully matured and a grown man(aka not Book 3 where he is a small teenager) he would be able to surpass him.
And we do have statements that he indeed had the potential to surpass him and that during his peak as Firelord he probably did
Ozai was the most powerful firebender we had seen.
More powerful than Azulon or Iroh or Sozin.(Fully realised adult Avatars were better but we dont count them)
The only ones that had the potential to surpass him one day were Azula and Zuko,the blood of Roku mixed with his own.
But as teenagers they couldn't
Could Iroh create dragon fire?
I always believed that Zuko only did so in the comics. cause he had Avatar blood.
Roku himself in the novel showed the blue flames that his great granddaughter had.
Also Zuko was forced to connect more deeply with the dragons caus he had lost his bending at that point,Iroh was still very powerful when he met them.
What if the roles were reversed with zuko and azula?😮
What if Iroh fought for the throne after Azulan died
Awesome theory; and sounds quite right for how a lot of things would turn out.
The only thing I didn’t like was that Iroh didn’t kill Ozai with his lightning redirection. Total missed opportunity there
bro rlly needed to think like iroh to make the script😭😭
What if Iron became Fire Lord (Part 2)
I think my dad is the avatar becuase when I wanted him the most he vanished 😅
wait 100 years you will find him in an iceberg with your sister
This was actually an awesome alt story
Would love to see how in this what if does iroh 'fix' azula as thats a tall task
Zuko to Aang: Look at me, I am the main character now
I’m a big fan of your vids
What if Sokka was a Waterbender as well
Can't wait for Two Blue Vortex next chapter🔥🔥
I will pay all my money to see a full 4 season of this
Oh, white flames like that character from the keoshi book
Aw that's some good writing. But I wouldn't say that firelord would accept Agni Kai. Probably would think that Ihron is insane bc of son's death. And banish him
more avatar what ifss make this a regular like narutooo. Maybe even a cross over episode what if naruto was aang or korra. so much potential hope to see more avatar especially due to you being named after the series.
I saw the thumbnail and my brain just stopped
Iroh wouldn't kill his brother, he would instead try his best to make the avatar end him or dethrone him. As you said, the white lotus will side with the avatar, so Iroh would probably follow Zuko on his mission and make a few adjustments to make the avatar escape. Iroh would be able to do this due to his connection with Pakku, another high ranking white lotus member and a waterbending instructor with high status in the northen water tribe. With the support of the order of the white lotus, Iroh might just be able to indirectly help the avatar while not being caught, or maybe Iroh would directly help the avatar by training the avatar with his firebending. If Iroh did this he would have to hide away from the fire nation until the avatar would defeat the firelord, making Zuko firelord due to him being an heir to the throne (And defeat Azula with the wisdom from Iroh and probably a little bit of plotbending)
If what I just wrote is kinda weird, just know that it is 2 am
What if Naruto was the Avatar, I know how you love to put Naruto into different scenarios and time periods and see how his personality would change the world and how the world would change him, but have you tried putting him into another world? If not, I feel like ATLA would be the perfect starting point
He would go: I need to restore my honor
Yeah I think the scar was part of Zuko ‘s redemption arc somehow
This is the greatest play of a theory
I love this. Can't wait to see the next.
What Zuko shouldn’t be that good in that Agnikai at that point he only had a little like the one where he wanted to prove himself infront of Azulon
This is very optimistic in my opinion no way iroh or zuko beat the fire lord, still a fun video though.
What if, in Naruto, instead of the easily manipulated lord of fire, it was the fire lord family of Avatar who ruled ?
The northern water temple? 20:44
What if Zuko was a prodigy?
Day 13 of asking for what if rin got crushed by the boulder instead of obito
Avatar vids r back😭😭😭
Love avatar the last airbender what if's please make more
Really good video also you should do a video about the spirit world and world staying connected.
Man that need a fic,right here right now :0
Zuko did not loose his honor. He was disfavored by his evil father because he was more honorable than Ozai. He believed the lie that he had lost his honor.
Can you do what if zuko killed katara
What if Zuko killed Ozai in that fight? Avenge Zuko!
Edit after watching the rest: Yeeeessss!!! Yeeeesssss!!!! Perfect!!!
Amazing video
This would unironically be a better ending
if it wasn't because toph doesn't appear
so is automatically the worst
Imma be real I was hoping that when ozai walked away from zuko he would say something along the lines of “I’m not done with you” and kept on fighting to eventually win