Had to come back to this vid because I've been playing this build for around 8-10hrs now and it's the best one I've tried. Suited to my fast playstyle perfectly and the DPS is great!
I started playing glaivier with the maxroll build and felt like I wasn't doing much damage at all.. Yours felt a lot better to play right away. Great job!
@@timmylee6070 Dude, Maxroll build is literally the same as this though (and same as almost every glaivier guide). Very good job with this guide nevertheless and especially liked how the rotation is explained.
@@Lolpyyy maxroll build is 5/3 for pinnacle build. this is 5/2 with some adjustments. i was running the maxroll build when i started my glavier and switched to this one at 1340 and noticed a big difference already
Hey Kimmothy, I’ve been following this build to the tee since glavier released. With the balance change, is there any changes you made to this build? Also, with the red counter skill now, do you still find that viable as the filler for the extra gauge needed?
Hello! Nope, I have not changed anything at all since the balance patch. The balance patch was for 4/3 build more and gave an option to change from pounce to thrust. The red counter can still be used for gauge, because right after u use it you are changing stances into blue and will have another counter skill ready anyway~
I think you can cut a CD gem from Pounce it has a lower cd than Dragon Horn and should fit the rotation without the gem. Get a damage gem for Chain Slash in its place. Also I think Half Moon Slash and Wheel should be chained together in the rotation as most people should be using Judgment and Conviction on those abilities. Just move Dragon Slash to end it already has an increase crit rate of 25% so it should be fine outside of the Debuffed boss.
@@kimmothy Its not about the mana its about the Cooldown reduction so you can cycle stances faster. You even without those runes you still do not need a CD gem for starfall pounce its cd is just short enough with standard tripods.
Yeah I do HAHA its my 3rd "main" after blade and lance. Ill needa set up my GS a bit more then I might make a vid on it, if not you can always check my GS on stream
Hey short question. In your rotation you mentioned, aplies that only for t3 builds full on spec? In t1 i can't get my gauge up with only the 3 red ones.
The awakening I use activates the relic nightmare set instantly while the other one only activates it at the end of its cast! So for nightmare set its better to use the one I use
It's strangely difficult to find resources that'll tell you good combat stats for subclasses. This gave me exactly what I was looking for but was so good I had to stay and see what other tips I've been missing out on.
Amazing video, i see a lot of ppl using judgment rune, as of now getting either legendary or epic one is a bit hard, do u think i should use an uncommon one or use sth completely different
Its really not that hard as of this patch, just get purple conviction from collecting masterpieces and get legendary judgement from the vendor you unlock after completing 70% adventurers tome in South Vern.
Ty for the video! Is grudge 3, cursed doll 3, inrease mass 3 and pinnacle 1 fine as a 3331 setup? Bought the necklace already and will be a lot cheaper than keen blunt. Yes I'm poor :(
I wouldn't give up keen blunt for cursed doll here either. She has a lot of innate crit rate already and kb ends up being way more efficient than cursed doll, even without considering the downsides. If you're poor, I don't think you should consider going anywhere past 333 at all. Valtan is on the corner and we shouldn't invest in something that'll soon be replaced.
pinnacle 3 is top priority, I would say give up cursed doll and keep grudge 3, increase mass 3 cause that can affect your health potion and you don't want that at all in valtan raid
Your specialization stat scales your Pinnacle buff over 2x effectiveness. So when running 1400+ spec and you have pinnacle 1 You are getting only mediocre dmg increase because when you read the increases on pinnacle you have to account that every 1% you gain in crit or dmg or whatever is over 2 time more when you account for proper spec gearing.
Hey changed most of the face shapes into a more caucasian type...essentially there is like 2-4 (depending on the class) that remains to look like east asian face shape. But yeah, majority of what we got in NA/EU are way too dumb shit looking face shapes smh
(1) At 0:58, it shows the front and back of the guardian. Is there any setting to enable it? (2) Earlier T3 like 1340, I cannot handle grudge/cursed doll with my low hp but 300+ ping gameplay. I cant dodge well even for T3 abyssal clown's flying fist. Can I go only keen blunt + pinnacle and it still works okish? I could get another engraving for maybe 2 or full as 3rd. Which one you like to recommend? Thank you.
1 - Settings > Gameplay > Controls > Combat outline 2 - Most of the guides I have seen suggested getting keen blunt first then working in the other engravings as you get more comfortable.
@@Michael-qz6cy Combat outline only shows my hero's outline. Not like the guardian's front and back which is shown in the video. I think it is controller/game pad exclusive? Would you pls like to have a look?
@@smolnoodle Sorry I misunderstood thought you meant when your character outline shows up behind the guardian. Do you mean the front and back indicators the white and blue arrows? If so those are not in the NA version yet from what I am told.
@@Michael-qz6cy understood. thank you. I wonder why they didn't add it for NA version since this is not even a patch changes, just basic indicator. Quite weird huh xD
No. Weak point gives base damage buff to bosses. Fatal aim only gives you more crit damage. With keen blunt and stance buff you should around 350% crit dmg. Buffing the base damage of the move has less diminishing returns and scales better. Although for chaos dungeons u can use it since there’s not many bosses
Blue stance uses more abilites in the cycle than red stance so if you start in blue stance the buffless state will make the mass increase slowly extremely obvious hahahaha. So for ease of function I suggested red first
@@kimmothy I mean generally after you switch from red stance to blue, instead of using Shackling as 3rd skill in the rotation, wouldn't it better to start with it to maximize your crit for the whole blue rotation?
@@lethalc333 OH I get your question now. So pretty much why its 3rd is because I use moonblade right before it so in terms of cooldowns, I can get 2 moonblades within 1 cycle. Its for a future reference!
Can someone explain to me why we've got 2 Overwhelm runes and why one of them is not used for mid-high stagger skill? I'd rather swap them for Conviction and Judgment anyway.
im at 1370 now and believe me altho judgement and conviction appear in every guides there's absolutely no need for them. While i was testing my rotations at Trixion I didnt have mana issue AT ALL, let alone during real fights where bosses are actually moving and u wont be able to spam skills as if hitting a scarecrow
ull be only using spear meteor "IF" you have nightmare set farmed. use the hold awakening skill. also depending on how good you are with dpsing with LM you do need judgement and conviction Also it grants 15% cd
How do people feel about wheel of blade skills? I personally don't use them for damage just for the last resort if I need to increase my meter. Reason for me is because that skill is actually a head on type. While all the other skills are back attack. I guess one skill doesn't make too much difference.
Why is everyone reccomending grudge as second or third engraving, it should be 4th or 5th. Ppl watch guides and then charge to grudge, while they have no experience and no gear, activating level one or two which is horrible .... If you're dead your DPS is zero, 20% increase in received damage is no joke. Grudge has possible worse negative of ell engr. in the game. Go Keen +Doll, I assure you, you won't feel the difference between 16% and 20% of attack rating. Penalty to healing is annoying but it won't get you killed.
grudge is a 20% damage boost, while cursed doll is 16% attack power boost btw. and the worst negative is also not even bad if you know learn some fights and have pots and supports. i have grudge 3 and esoteric 1 on a wardancer who is doing the normal t3 abyss dungeons, and i didn't die to anything but wipes, as did my teammates. i encourage you to give it a chance
Love the format and presentation layout. Please do one for all the classes you run.
I was looking for something like this on youtube and websites, and then yt recommended me this video.
So I guess I love you, thanks
the tripod pics are so helpful , thanks alot , great vid
Was looking around for a video like this, really well put together. Thanks :)
Had to come back to this vid because I've been playing this build for around 8-10hrs now and it's the best one I've tried. Suited to my fast playstyle perfectly and the DPS is great!
Best LM vid Ive found yet! Cheers!
thanks for the very clear guide. fast and concise.
Perfect. To the point and a calm voice and not to speedy talking. Subbed
This video is put together insanely well and i wish i saw this sooner before spending ages on loawa to figure this out myself.
Great video Sir! you are OP
I started playing glaivier with the maxroll build and felt like I wasn't doing much damage at all.. Yours felt a lot better to play right away. Great job!
maxroll builds are so garbage ive had that issue with every class ive played so far. not sure whos even making these but they need to stop lmao
@@timmylee6070 Dude, Maxroll build is literally the same as this though (and same as almost every glaivier guide). Very good job with this guide nevertheless and especially liked how the rotation is explained.
@@Lolpyyy maxroll build is 5/3 for pinnacle build. this is 5/2 with some adjustments. i was running the maxroll build when i started my glavier and switched to this one at 1340 and noticed a big difference already
@@timmylee6070 Maxroll build is 5/2 aswell it just depends on how many skillpoints you have...
@@timmylee6070 nah maxroll builds are very good for the vast majority. Get better lul
great video! also like your deathblade guides!
im liking this build the best so far!
Very detailed and concise guide, excellent job!! I always hear your name on Kanima's stream but didnt know you had a YT channel, subbed!
Thank you
Awesone content my friend. Keep going even if it's not league!
Thank you for the support ❤
Awesome stuff
You saved me a few hours breaking my head on lowa! ty
Hey Kimmothy, I’ve been following this build to the tee since glavier released. With the balance change, is there any changes you made to this build? Also, with the red counter skill now, do you still find that viable as the filler for the extra gauge needed?
Hello! Nope, I have not changed anything at all since the balance patch. The balance patch was for 4/3 build more and gave an option to change from pounce to thrust. The red counter can still be used for gauge, because right after u use it you are changing stances into blue and will have another counter skill ready anyway~
Tyvm!
I think you can cut a CD gem from Pounce it has a lower cd than Dragon Horn and should fit the rotation without the gem. Get a damage gem for Chain Slash in its place. Also I think Half Moon Slash and Wheel should be chained together in the rotation as most people should be using Judgment and Conviction on those abilities. Just move Dragon Slash to end it already has an increase crit rate of 25% so it should be fine outside of the Debuffed boss.
Judgement and conviction is not necessary with nightmare set. Regarding other jewels feel free man!
@@kimmothy Its not about the mana its about the Cooldown reduction so you can cycle stances faster. You even without those runes you still do not need a CD gem for starfall pounce its cd is just short enough with standard tripods.
As a noob who doesn't know shit about this game I want to thank you for making classes somewhat playable for me 😂
Do you play gunslinger? Would love a guide like this for her. Really good and concise lance master guide!
Yeah I do HAHA its my 3rd "main" after blade and lance. Ill needa set up my GS a bit more then I might make a vid on it, if not you can always check my GS on stream
i dont play glaivier but commenting for the algorithm
Thanks for the guide. Quick question, do you still recommend this build after the KR class balance? Thanks!
Yeap! Its still fine and imo the changes impacted the 4/3 playstyle more than 5/2
@@kimmothy Cool, thanks!
Hey short question.
In your rotation you mentioned, aplies that only for t3 builds full on spec?
In t1 i can't get my gauge up with only the 3 red ones.
Question, does the awakening skill choice matter? Like what if I like the red awakening skill more is it the same rotation?
The awakening I use activates the relic nightmare set instantly while the other one only activates it at the end of its cast! So for nightmare set its better to use the one I use
It's strangely difficult to find resources that'll tell you good combat stats for subclasses. This gave me exactly what I was looking for but was so good I had to stay and see what other tips I've been missing out on.
I don't have that many skill points to get the rotation that maxed, what would you recommend for 312 points?
He explains what skills to max first, just remember big damage = :)
@@deepfryme65 Ahhh! so he did!! thank you! i miss took that as "while you lvl" not "lvl these first"
Amazing video, i see a lot of ppl using judgment rune, as of now getting either legendary or epic one is a bit hard, do u think i should use an uncommon one or use sth completely different
Its really not that hard as of this patch, just get purple conviction from collecting masterpieces and get legendary judgement from the vendor you unlock after completing 70% adventurers tome in South Vern.
@@leo2404 getting south vern to 70% Is basically impossible in west release
Artemis_a09 it isn’t. About 72% is all that’s possible as of now.
@@artemis_a0997 completing rapport (which is easy in SV) and skipping some of the cooking will get you to 70%
Just know once relic sets are out and you have the nightmare one, judgment and conviction is not needed!
Hey Kimmothy, are you going to make an updated version for both Gunslinger and Glaivier ? I see a lot changed in PTR.
PTR isnt finalized atm so will have to watch out for that! Also, apologizes for not posting I've been swamped with working irl for a bit
@@kimmothy Okay! Hope u can get things done IRL and come back to streaming soon :)
Ty for the video! Is grudge 3, cursed doll 3, inrease mass 3 and pinnacle 1 fine as a 3331 setup? Bought the necklace already and will be a lot cheaper than keen blunt. Yes I'm poor :(
You want to prioritize Pinnacle 3 since that’s a lot of stats and buffs lost from just running it at 1.
I wouldn't give up keen blunt for cursed doll here either. She has a lot of innate crit rate already and kb ends up being way more efficient than cursed doll, even without considering the downsides. If you're poor, I don't think you should consider going anywhere past 333 at all. Valtan is on the corner and we shouldn't invest in something that'll soon be replaced.
pinnacle 3 is top priority, I would say give up cursed doll and keep grudge 3, increase mass 3 cause that can affect your health potion and you don't want that at all in valtan raid
Your specialization stat scales your Pinnacle buff over 2x effectiveness. So when running 1400+ spec and you have pinnacle 1 You are getting only mediocre dmg increase because when you read the increases on pinnacle you have to account that every 1% you gain in crit or dmg or whatever is over 2 time more when you account for proper spec gearing.
@@Henrii01 Ty for answer but isnt 3331 min req. for valtan?
Hey Kimmothy why would the blue ultimate be utilized instead of the red? I feel as though the red does more no?
Blue activates nightmare bonus when landed vs the red has to complete its charge
@@kimmothy again you know your stuff thanks a bunch!
The korean build have more face customizations? How come the NA version, half the faces look like bird brain homunculi.
Nop they don’t have more face customization
Hey changed most of the face shapes into a more caucasian type...essentially there is like 2-4 (depending on the class) that remains to look like east asian face shape. But yeah, majority of what we got in NA/EU are way too dumb shit looking face shapes smh
Zeals (I think it was him..) said after balance KR patch, it will be crit spec?
Do you have control build aswell?
(1) At 0:58, it shows the front and back of the guardian. Is there any setting to enable it?
(2) Earlier T3 like 1340, I cannot handle grudge/cursed doll with my low hp but 300+ ping gameplay. I cant dodge well even for T3 abyssal clown's flying fist. Can I go only keen blunt + pinnacle and it still works okish? I could get another engraving for maybe 2 or full as 3rd. Which one you like to recommend?
Thank you.
1 - Settings > Gameplay > Controls > Combat outline
2 - Most of the guides I have seen suggested getting keen blunt first then working in the other engravings as you get more comfortable.
@@Michael-qz6cy thank you so much. You are very kind.
@@Michael-qz6cy Combat outline only shows my hero's outline. Not like the guardian's front and back which is shown in the video. I think it is controller/game pad exclusive? Would you pls like to have a look?
@@smolnoodle Sorry I misunderstood thought you meant when your character outline shows up behind the guardian. Do you mean the front and back indicators the white and blue arrows? If so those are not in the NA version yet from what I am told.
@@Michael-qz6cy understood. thank you. I wonder why they didn't add it for NA version since this is not even a patch changes, just basic indicator. Quite weird huh xD
Would love to see something like this for Thirst Reaper.
Post destroyer balance changes, would you change Red Dragon's Horn 3rd tripod from Weak Point Detection to Fatal Aim?
No. Weak point gives base damage buff to bosses. Fatal aim only gives you more crit damage. With keen blunt and stance buff you should around 350% crit dmg. Buffing the base damage of the move has less diminishing returns and scales better. Although for chaos dungeons u can use it since there’s not many bosses
With full relic set, and 1470 ilvl, is control and pinnacle equal in terms on damage output? Or does control scale better?
Control generally scales slightly better around end end game, roughly 1540++
I see a lot of people dropping the pounce for thrust of destruction now. Is it just a damage versus ease of hitting tradeoff after the buffs?
Both is fine but dps wise it seems thrust is good too now! Imo its an option for players to choose from now
I haven’t watch the full video, but since glavier is the first character you tried. Is she still your main if not, why did you switch ?
Glavier is my 2nd main now! My main is surge blade as I liked the playstyle more, thats all!
Is it true, that glavier stops scaling after 1415 and is considered as a bad class in raids?
Nope
Given that you take the Crit tripod in Shackling Dragon, wouldn't it be better to start the blue rotation with it?
Blue stance uses more abilites in the cycle than red stance so if you start in blue stance the buffless state will make the mass increase slowly extremely obvious hahahaha. So for ease of function I suggested red first
@@kimmothy I mean generally after you switch from red stance to blue, instead of using Shackling as 3rd skill in the rotation, wouldn't it better to start with it to maximize your crit for the whole blue rotation?
@@lethalc333 OH I get your question now. So pretty much why its 3rd is because I use moonblade right before it so in terms of cooldowns, I can get 2 moonblades within 1 cycle. Its for a future reference!
@@kimmothy I tried throwing in a 2nd moonblade in the cycle, but I find it impossible at 500ish Swiftness.
Assuming I need better tripods.
@@lethalc333 it probably comes down to runes and jewels too
Control is viable compared to pinacle?
is that hairstyle new?
Lots of people say cursed doll and increase mass dont go well together. Other people recommend it. Nooh nooo why do i have to think for myself? 🤣
Can someone explain to me why we've got 2 Overwhelm runes and why one of them is not used for mid-high stagger skill? I'd rather swap them for Conviction and Judgment anyway.
Good for you you do you
Is this for a fresh level 50? Idk if I have enough skill points 😱
Slowly build into it! I mentioned which abilites should be maxed out first sir
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i go pinaccle 3 incirase mass 3 and keen blunt 3 it is good ?
Yep its fine for now, just slowly add grudge from there~
Is this still viable after balance patch?
Yeap!
what + is the weapon?
Mine is +20
I’m not trying to run grudge because I’m not to get smacked by the boss
Wouldn't this result in mana issues in 1300-1415 without Focus, Judgement and Conviction?
Spear Meteor is also quite the punishing Awakening Skill.
im at 1370 now and believe me altho judgement and conviction appear in every guides there's absolutely no need for them. While i was testing my rotations at Trixion I didnt have mana issue AT ALL, let alone during real fights where bosses are actually moving and u wont be able to spam skills as if hitting a scarecrow
ull be only using spear meteor "IF" you have nightmare set farmed. use the hold awakening skill. also depending on how good you are with dpsing with LM you do need judgement and conviction Also it grants 15% cd
i have no idea what those runes are you should have put up their names
how are you getting 100% crit tho without any crit stat
tripods
Cool guide but it's not for pool players like me :D
How do people feel about wheel of blade skills?
I personally don't use them for damage just for the last resort if I need to increase my meter. Reason for me is because that skill is actually a head on type. While all the other skills are back attack. I guess one skill doesn't make too much difference.
it's a multi hit skill so it's used to trigger the judgement rune
@@Orcthas Also great stagger on top of that
First
do not run grudge if you have low reaction time or just sux at dodging or fist timer on dungeon
Why is everyone reccomending grudge as second or third engraving, it should be 4th or 5th. Ppl watch guides and then charge to grudge, while they have no experience and no gear, activating level one or two which is horrible .... If you're dead your DPS is zero, 20% increase in received damage is no joke. Grudge has possible worse negative of ell engr. in the game. Go Keen +Doll, I assure you, you won't feel the difference between 16% and 20% of attack rating. Penalty to healing is annoying but it won't get you killed.
grudge is a 20% damage boost, while cursed doll is 16% attack power boost btw. and the worst negative is also not even bad if you know learn some fights and have pots and supports. i have grudge 3 and esoteric 1 on a wardancer who is doing the normal t3 abyss dungeons, and i didn't die to anything but wipes, as did my teammates. i encourage you to give it a chance