I'm Autistic and I am a lot like L. The more reclusive, sit weird, in the dark constantly kind of way. I mainly play video games but people call me a freak all the time.
I agree. He is a character with a personality and traits very similar to mine, but even so, I’ve never ponder with myself if he could be autistic as well.
as an autistic person myself there is no way I can't think of L as autistic hes such a comfort character for me. I barely ever see people like me and people who think like me and act like me, especially represented in the media in an accurate way. not just a nerdy white boy who is rude to people and doesn't feel anything (we do feel stuff by the way, some of us just can't express it). L is quite the stereotypical portrayal, but still, he's accurate. not seeing people like me anywhere is quite lonely. you start to wonder if your wrong for being like you are, if you were a mistake, if you even belong on this earth. but seeing L, his intense interest on detective work, his very strict eating habits, his social awkwardness, and pretty much everything about him made me really really happy. especially cuz he was one of the first blatantly autistic characters I saw growing up also. L's little gargoyle sits
Same! I'm autistic and don't struggle with academics at all and I'm glad to see that they don't just focus on that like most media representations. Also just the "at least he's not a mass murderer" reminded me of a movie called 'the accountant' which is about an autistic serial killer accountant lmao
but there is diff types of autism, some are higher functioning than others. L def has sensory issues (barefeet, food textures/tastes) and social barriers (sympathy, morality too alot of times, hyperfixation) but he doesnt seem to be a robot. I do believe autism doesnt make a person a machine, just makes it hard for other ppl to understand them and for them to communicate. There are times Ryuuzaki seems to genuinely try to put ppl at ease, but L's empathy stems more from logic and rational thought than emotion...example, he rly doesnt feel anything abt detaining light HOWEVER he LOGICALLY AND RATIONALLY KNOWS that mr yagami feels alot about it, which is why he tries to accomodate his feelings into his work. Its the same w aizawa and ukita and the same again when aizawa quit the force. The only time he rly failed to empathize w someone was when light punched him out. I think had ryuuzaki not been depressed he wouldnt have said all those things in front of light and angered him to the point of punching him. Normally L keeps his thoughts to himself
I know L explains why he sits the way he does, but I'm not sure why he holds things the way he does, like how he holds his phone from the top part and not the whole thing like people normally do. Is that ever explained in the anime?
He does not explain that, but I've heard some people headcanon he does that (and in general moves in an odd way) because he has Dyspraxia, which is common for autistic people. I chose not to mention it in the video because I personally don't know a lot about Dyspraxia and didn't want to say anything I wasn't sure of.
To be honest, I've not watched Death Note but I can say this guy could hold phones like that for... Well, okay, I hold the phones a bit similar to him for these reasons so I thought it could work here. 1. He wants to avoid his face skin to be covered by the cellphone owner's skin marks (this kind of oil in the skin... Something a bit triggering). 2. He's sensitive to sounds. The phone's sounds can be really painful so he holds it at a safe distance, like, "That's a tolerable distance, a tolerable tone". 3. Both reasons. 4. None of them, L being L is L holding phones in L way.
sensory issues, same reason why hes always barefoot....autistic kids have sensory issues thats why they sit in special chairs for example and eat certain foods (texture of foods can bother them)
@@scottmon3y380 ik I'm a year late, but I'm an autistic person with dyspraxia, I personally agree with that for L, I hold things differently because my hands kind of dont do what I want them to do (thats the only way I can describe it). So it does make a lot of sense for him.
I really liked the end portion about autistic representation!!! especially about the part about implying that non savant autistics are worthless to society. I have a damn near encyclopedic knowledge of entomology, my special interest, despite not getting any formal education on it. but people don't really care bk "eW wHy Do YoU lIkE bUgS" I see L as good representation, partially because he was one of the first characters I media that I recognized as being like me and that was a huge comfort. but I definitely think that, for as diverse as the autism spectrum is, our representation in the media should reflect that. more girls, people of color, older people, romantic and or sexual characters, and more diversity in the traits presented. because there's so many autistic traits and it's a shame people only portray a few of them. low empathy is an autistic trait. so is hyper empathy. no eye contact is a trait of autism. so is intense eye contact. some autistic people are complete loners. some are social butterflies. and people inbetween all of those things. no one autistic person is similar to the rest still, I see L as positive autistic representation even if he's a bit problematic in some ways
My history with L is quite special. When i first saw him, i was fascinated. I could not explain why. Maybe it's because he is also considered eccentric (like me) or maybe because he sits like a frog, which reminded me of Toad from X-Men, which is another character i like (i love reptiles and anphibians for some reason), but when i started to make some research about the character, i stumbled upon the theory of L having Aspergers syndrom. I was schocked to see that i related with most of it's symtoms. it turns out i have Aspergers lol. L made me realise i am autistic.
That freakout of him screaming is almost dead on what it feels like to have an autistic meltdown. I'm autistic late diagnosis and I have never related so much to a character before, I feel like Shoto Todoroki from MHA hits the spectrum as well but L just feels obvious as a sun during the morning hours.
The only honest to god way L could have been accidentally written as autistic is if the creator based him on himself (which is possible) and the creator is undiagnosed and unaware of his own autism tbh. There is no way L isn’t on the spectrum I swear 😂
that actually happened to me onec, i wrote an Oc for myself and didn't knew im neurodivergent at that point and now i look at her and am like Omg this OC is 100% neurodivergent 😂
L is the best character in the history of anime !!!! I love him so much to the point that I could do anything for him!!! Lol! Love that you put that cute gif of Kenichi Matsuyama's L😍😍😍!! so adorable!!!
I remember when I first watched death note, I used to think that I was the real life equivilant of L. I almost look like him and have the exact same posture, I had a sweet tooth, and I act and think exactly like him.
"It probably looks that it was processed through a meat grinder, and I know, and I'm sorry, and kiss my ass" I love the sheer dichotomy of all of reactions being in the same sentence, mood af
a rainbow infinity sign instead of puzzle piece, mention of the autistic community, aND discussion of problems within autistic representation??!?!! finally, what seems to be an atleast decently educated person speaking on autistic things
I have a massive crush on him too. Man got me feeling ways I hadn’t felt since I started my relationship with my autistic boyfriend who identifies with L
8:28 you said there isn’t really any raising his voice (except for something that I won’t mention), but 8:28 has it. I don’t think I’m being rude or something but I find it a little funny even though it’s not exactly what you are talking about by raised voice. It just feels a little ironic even though it’s a stretch lol
I think of myself as a clever person, and yet I've never thought of L being similar to me. When he was the first anime character who's existence convinced me to even start to watch anime. Now I can't think myself clever anymore. 🤦♀️
This is such a fun video, I really enjoy rewatching it! If anyone wants to see the scene mentioned at 3:15, there's a clip here! ua-cam.com/video/glZK5114OlY/v-deo.html (I'm kinda glad it wasn't up at the time, because that was a way funnier way of learning about it)
Okay this might sound a bit weird but just hear me out, i personally don’t think of L as an autistic person but he definitely isn’t neuro typical, L is the greatest detective in the world which to my understanding would mean that he is constantly doing interrogations with different suspects, a detectives job in an interrogation is to analyse and observe the suspects body language and emotional behaviour, as an autistic person reading a persons emotions or even just holding eye contact for more than 3 seconds is incredibly difficult, i believe he has Asperger’s which is definitely related to autism , this would explain why he doesn’t have all the symptoms of autism, i also believe he has OCPD and possibly paranoia, but who knows I’m no physiologist.
i dont understand all the self inserts in the comments section - pretty weird to rationalize a characters neurotypicality based on how much they relate to us. also pretty sure even in 06' people were saying he was on the spectrum - he stims, cant socialize, has really weird quirks and has like a savant lvl deductive ability. there was some mention of OCD but im not too sure
I don’t think L was on the spectrum, I think he acted weird and different to throw people off, HOWEVER, with that being said, I do believe Near was on the spectrum 100%
Well, you and I are both entitled to our separate opinions and if that's how you feel that's fine. But I would like to note that 1.) I'm not saying he is canonically autistic, I'm saying it's how I see him. 2.) As explained in the video, my reasons for seeing him that way are beyond merely being eccentric.
@@scottmon3y380 The biggest issue with these kinds of videos is people boil down the reasoning behind why these characters seem autistic is characteristics that make that character interesting or unique without falling into a trope, or just being an all around uninteresting character. It all implies that "neuro-typicals" cannot be the way that a character like L Lawliet is without people thinking they are neurodivergent. This sets yet another layer of obnoxious identity politics in the ongoing parasitical phenomena we see as "media representation" Where after autism glorification has come full circle and we end up seeing a lot more of forced into media, it'll cause more bad writing, more tropes, and a general frustrating environment in media where people care about superficial and petty identity politics points like how much of a minority a character is. Neurodivergent characters can be written of course, not saying they shouldn't be, but doesn't it seem counterintuitive to represent an autistic character that you can point out traits that make them autistic? What about those with autism with no visible characteristics of it? Autism is a spectrum, so those affected by it aren't always the same. Furthermore, with that logic, isn't every single character in any story ever made legible to be autistic in someone's headcanon? This form of glorifying a mental condition or disorder or whatever just seems strange. And lately, it hasn't been about representation, it's been about more division in the collective conciousness. Comparing how people with autism are to those who aren't. Why is this even a thing?
@@sleepybosslamb Ouch, sounds like a neurotypical person got really butthurt about someone using actual diagnostic criteria to show L as autistic. Consider the following, there is literally 0 reason for you to be so bothered by this (or to watch a 9+ minute vid about it) unless you are literally just ableist and can't handle autistic representation in media. You then made a massive paragraph full of strawman fallacies - for example, arguing "what about the autistic people that don't show symptoms??" As though that in any way relates to this (oh and btw autistic people who "don't have any visible symptoms" don't exist. Those are autistic people who mask every second they are around you because you are quite obviously not safe to show symptoms around) and "romanticizing mental disorders" which literally isn't even happening here - all for the sake of... what? Trying to make an entire community of autistic people uncomfortable? You didn't disprove a single thing from the video; literally the only thing you did was whine about how you don't want L to be autistic despite him absolutely fitting dx criteria that is actively used to diagnose real people every day. It would honestly be so much less effort to just come out and say "no! I don't want this character to be autistic because I'm ableist" and call it a day bc you did not hide any of your biases sufficiently. For the record, on the subject of the "romanticizing mental disorders" strawman you were arguing with, Autism isn't a mental disorder. It's considered a neurological difference (hence the term NeuroDivergent) and unlike actual mental disorders like depression, anxiety, etc, there is literally nothing wrong or harmful about having autism besides the fact that neurotypical people don't like it and intentionally refuse to allow autistic people to live in the way that would allow them to be both comfortable and productive - that is, by never having to mask the way L doesn't mask. So to act like there's something wrong with autism that means it shouldn't be on a show being represented for some reason is really just yet another extension of your ableism peeking through. Similar to deaf people having a culture and pride in that culture (because there is not anything wrong with being deaf, just different than what you and I live like), there is a similar culture and pride for autistic people. Realistically, people with actual mental disorders like MDD, OCD, GAD, etc would still struggle if they were in a society of just others like them. However, autistic people, blind people, deaf people, ADHDers, etc wouldn't. If a group of people could build a happy, functional society if you removed typical people from it, then the problem is ableism, not an issue caused by the disorder itself. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with being proud of being autistic, and there isn't anything to "romanticize".
@@littlesparkkitten If you're finished with your condescending cope about how backwards it is to overanalyze a character's demeanor to try to find a way to see them as neurodivergent, I want to remind you that the west -- specifically the US in north america, is the only place where this nonsense seems to persist. not only was the concept of L Lawliet as a character never once considered to be autistic in creating him, but the fact that you would frame the points I make with buzzwords like "strawman" is incredibly ironic considering the only defense and argument that even hints to the character showing such signs can just be explained by a demeanor that is generally seen as abnormal. I've met a lot of friends on the spectrum, most will show "symptoms" (how self-depricating to call it that imo but ig thats how people say it) but some's symptoms are not social or seen by people because they are more internal. The whole point about the diversity of these symptoms and how if L was indeed neurotypical, he'd be a stereotype, was to show that people's symptoms are different and that is entirely normal. The fact that you'd go as far as to call me ableist for trying to dismiss the naive and psyop ridden post-modern agendas to make a big deal out of mental disorders or "neuro-divergence", whatever the name may be, because it seems counter-productive to represent them the way people are making them out to be, goes to show the genuine lack of social awareness and the need to seek validation and attention on something most don't care about. If people made less of a deal about redundant nonsense like if a character is divergent or typical, there wouldn't be so much conflict. But videos like this exist, and insufferable weirdos like you exist to divide put people in ultra specific and over-categorized boxes of identity. What's next, what kind of childhood trauma L suffered in his past? is he an INFP or an INTP or whatever? what his zodiac sign is? It's trendy to make trivial bs like this the centerpiece of your personality. and its truly sad to see that there's an "autistic community" that drowns itself in deafening ignorance and isolation the way Ive seen it so far. Is it ableist to think caring this much about neurodivergence or whatever is some psycho crazy behavior? absolutely not. But iIdigress. Please continue to cope, weirdo.
@@littlesparkkitten Also I really love the redditor energy I get from you, please use more buzzwords and keep that tone to as condescendingly offputting as possible! "I'm autistic and I think L is too because I relate to him! 🤓"
There is no way this man is Neuro typical
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@@jordanholder7559 i dont get it ;-;
There is no way in hell he's neuro typical. I mean, just look at him for a second. Yes I mean a second.
@Masked1z 🔥 Neuro typical means that someone Isn't Neurodiverse, L is most certainly Neurodivergent so... he's not Neuro typical.
@Masked1z 🔥 It's cool man, or gal, I get that a lot of the time.
As an autistic person I like the idea of l being autistic and I think he's a good representation of autistic people
I'm Autistic and I am a lot like L. The more reclusive, sit weird, in the dark constantly kind of way. I mainly play video games but people call me a freak all the time.
I agree. He is a character with a personality and traits very similar to mine, but even so, I’ve never ponder with myself if he could be autistic as well.
I sit just like him
i need you to remember this after 2 years 😭😭
as an autistic person myself there is no way I can't think of L as autistic
hes such a comfort character for me. I barely ever see people like me and people who think like me and act like me, especially represented in the media in an accurate way. not just a nerdy white boy who is rude to people and doesn't feel anything (we do feel stuff by the way, some of us just can't express it). L is quite the stereotypical portrayal, but still, he's accurate.
not seeing people like me anywhere is quite lonely. you start to wonder if your wrong for being like you are, if you were a mistake, if you even belong on this earth. but seeing L, his intense interest on detective work, his very strict eating habits, his social awkwardness, and pretty much everything about him made me really really happy. especially cuz he was one of the first blatantly autistic characters I saw growing up
also. L's little gargoyle sits
I agree. He is my favorite fictional character because I am an aspie, and he is very similar to me.
Same! I'm autistic and don't struggle with academics at all and I'm glad to see that they don't just focus on that like most media representations. Also just the "at least he's not a mass murderer" reminded me of a movie called 'the accountant' which is about an autistic serial killer accountant lmao
but there is diff types of autism, some are higher functioning than others. L def has sensory issues (barefeet, food textures/tastes) and social barriers (sympathy, morality too alot of times, hyperfixation) but he doesnt seem to be a robot. I do believe autism doesnt make a person a machine, just makes it hard for other ppl to understand them and for them to communicate. There are times Ryuuzaki seems to genuinely try to put ppl at ease, but L's empathy stems more from logic and rational thought than emotion...example, he rly doesnt feel anything abt detaining light HOWEVER he LOGICALLY AND RATIONALLY KNOWS that mr yagami feels alot about it, which is why he tries to accomodate his feelings into his work.
Its the same w aizawa and ukita and the same again when aizawa quit the force. The only time he rly failed to empathize w someone was when light punched him out. I think had ryuuzaki not been depressed he wouldnt have said all those things in front of light and angered him to the point of punching him. Normally L keeps his thoughts to himself
boohoo
Cringe
I know it's said ten million times but... there is nothing neurotypical about this guy! I relate to him too much and he's a comfort character to me!
SAME
scott's choking cackle when they can't find the netflix clip gives me life
Another in-depth review I can totally get behind! L is one of my favorites ever and I wonder how many other character ideas you have under your belt
Thank you! I have quite a few more I'm hoping to get out eventually.
I know L explains why he sits the way he does, but I'm not sure why he holds things the way he does, like how he holds his phone from the top part and not the whole thing like people normally do. Is that ever explained in the anime?
He does not explain that, but I've heard some people headcanon he does that (and in general moves in an odd way) because he has Dyspraxia, which is common for autistic people. I chose not to mention it in the video because I personally don't know a lot about Dyspraxia and didn't want to say anything I wasn't sure of.
He holds things like that to prevent him from getting finger prints on objects
To be honest, I've not watched Death Note but I can say this guy could hold phones like that for... Well, okay, I hold the phones a bit similar to him for these reasons so I thought it could work here.
1. He wants to avoid his face skin to be covered by the cellphone owner's skin marks (this kind of oil in the skin... Something a bit triggering).
2. He's sensitive to sounds. The phone's sounds can be really painful so he holds it at a safe distance, like, "That's a tolerable distance, a tolerable tone".
3. Both reasons.
4. None of them, L being L is L holding phones in L way.
sensory issues, same reason why hes always barefoot....autistic kids have sensory issues thats why they sit in special chairs for example and eat certain foods (texture of foods can bother them)
@@scottmon3y380 ik I'm a year late, but I'm an autistic person with dyspraxia, I personally agree with that for L, I hold things differently because my hands kind of dont do what I want them to do (thats the only way I can describe it). So it does make a lot of sense for him.
I really liked the end portion about autistic representation!!! especially about the part about implying that non savant autistics are worthless to society. I have a damn near encyclopedic knowledge of entomology, my special interest, despite not getting any formal education on it. but people don't really care bk "eW wHy Do YoU lIkE bUgS"
I see L as good representation, partially because he was one of the first characters I media that I recognized as being like me and that was a huge comfort. but I definitely think that, for as diverse as the autism spectrum is, our representation in the media should reflect that. more girls, people of color, older people, romantic and or sexual characters, and more diversity in the traits presented. because there's so many autistic traits and it's a shame people only portray a few of them. low empathy is an autistic trait. so is hyper empathy. no eye contact is a trait of autism. so is intense eye contact. some autistic people are complete loners. some are social butterflies. and people inbetween all of those things. no one autistic person is similar to the rest
still, I see L as positive autistic representation even if he's a bit problematic in some ways
has anyone seen that one theory thats like "L pretends to be autistic so that people will underestimate him?" so fucking gross i hate that shit
Except for- "Ahhhhahhhhh"
I laughed a little too hard at that 😂😂😂😂
My history with L is quite special. When i first saw him, i was fascinated. I could not explain why. Maybe it's because he is also considered eccentric (like me) or maybe because he sits like a frog, which reminded me of Toad from X-Men, which is another character i like (i love reptiles and anphibians for some reason), but when i started to make some research about the character, i stumbled upon the theory of L having Aspergers syndrom. I was schocked to see that i related with most of it's symtoms. it turns out i have Aspergers lol. L made me realise i am autistic.
That freakout of him screaming is almost dead on what it feels like to have an autistic meltdown. I'm autistic late diagnosis and I have never related so much to a character before, I feel like Shoto Todoroki from MHA hits the spectrum as well but L just feels obvious as a sun during the morning hours.
The only honest to god way L could have been accidentally written as autistic is if the creator based him on himself (which is possible) and the creator is undiagnosed and unaware of his own autism tbh. There is no way L isn’t on the spectrum I swear 😂
that actually happened to me onec, i wrote an Oc for myself and didn't knew im neurodivergent at that point and now i look at her and am like Omg this OC is 100% neurodivergent 😂
8:14 as one of my special interests are mbti, I can confirm that L is an INTP
You're hilarious and informative. I love it xD
Thanks!
1:35 that’s so funny bc as I’m watching this I’m neglecting everything, work, school, friends… because Ive hyper focused on a drawing. Of light.
I saw L for the first time and just went "no way this man is neuro typical"
Oh hey look, it’s my husband, L..
I wasn't aware I was married
He's my husband too 🥰
I saw on google he has Marfan syndrome. Autism is most likely common with these genetic conditions.
*"If anything happens to me, I've asks wtahsusg to make hsjsbha available so I'm counting on tghUna-"*
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L is the best character in the history of anime !!!!
I love him so much to the point that I could do anything for him!!! Lol!
Love that you put that cute gif of Kenichi Matsuyama's L😍😍😍!! so adorable!!!
You even sound like him
LOOOOL I don't think I do but thank you
I thought so too 😭
3:16 your little “sorry” is so cute LOL 😂
plus the laugh 🤣🤣
Ur voice sound like L in the dub don't get me wrong heh
OmL I never noticed, nice catch XD
my 200th reason to kin him
YOU KILLED MY EARS
this is a great video n i learned a lot - thank you!!
i completely agree. he could also have adhd, very similar symptoms.
Both is an option :]
6:07
I remember my sister being down bad-
The cherry stem was just... 🥵
4:45 MY EARS
YESS YES YES YES UES YES THIS HAS BEEN A HC SINCE I STARTED THE SJOW
I love you for this
im in love witj your voice
I remember when I first watched death note, I used to think that I was the real life equivilant of L. I almost look like him and have the exact same posture, I had a sweet tooth, and I act and think exactly like him.
"It probably looks that it was processed through a meat grinder, and I know, and I'm sorry, and kiss my ass"
I love the sheer dichotomy of all of reactions being in the same sentence, mood af
Honestly, I think you'd pull off a stunning Light cosplay! I mean, I don't even know what you look like, but I still think you would!🌟
a rainbow infinity sign instead of puzzle piece, mention of the autistic community, aND discussion of problems within autistic representation??!?!! finally, what seems to be an atleast decently educated person speaking on autistic things
YES !
Remember when autism wasn't 99% Asperger's...
6:15 put them floor grabbers away 😟😟/j
Lmao I forgot I was wearing my L shirt jbshsvywgusg I look down and just see him staring up at me
i love the meat grinder thing you said thank you!
Look we don't get any representation in anime (as far as I know) so we'll take what we can get!
The earrape almost gave me a heart attack.
Can you teach me simple editing? I wanna do stuff like this too! X3
Honestly I don't know a ton about editing. I kind of just open after effects and hope for the best.
Am I the only one who noticed the typo in the title...
omg 💀
YAS
You are right and you should say it!
Why is it that anytime someone is the slightest bit awkward around people they automatically say he's on the spectrum. It's become the new adhd.
damn, it's no wonder i fell in love with him, considering i also have autism. i guess that makes us a match made in heaven. my husband!
Agreed!
chronically online headcanons
computer, how do i put kira in the phantom zone?
L isn't a man he is a GOD
I have a massive crush on him too. Man got me feeling ways I hadn’t felt since I started my relationship with my autistic boyfriend who identifies with L
8:41- HEYYY I LOVE MBTI STUFF G HUH
Vampire counting money
lmaoo why does Light have that buterfly belt in theintro
8:28 you said there isn’t really any raising his voice (except for something that I won’t mention), but 8:28 has it. I don’t think I’m being rude or something but I find it a little funny even though it’s not exactly what you are talking about by raised voice. It just feels a little ironic even though it’s a stretch lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates socks TwT
Im autistic
L vs Batman.
Detective work.
Laios dungeon meshi autism video when????
I think of myself as a clever person, and yet I've never thought of L being similar to me. When he was the first anime character who's existence convinced me to even start to watch anime. Now I can't think myself clever anymore. 🤦♀️
i like this video
U kinda sound like L
Douse light aswell cos it's a good point if he douse
I don't see Light as autistic personally.
Yum gargoyle sit
he hella smart tho
Yes he is
8:48 DON’T WE ALL
2:14
*lol fr tho-*
This is such a fun video, I really enjoy rewatching it! If anyone wants to see the scene mentioned at 3:15, there's a clip here! ua-cam.com/video/glZK5114OlY/v-deo.html (I'm kinda glad it wasn't up at the time, because that was a way funnier way of learning about it)
Yesss thank you so much
bro you misspelled "autistic" in the title
Okay this might sound a bit weird but just hear me out, i personally don’t think of L as an autistic person but he definitely isn’t neuro typical, L is the greatest detective in the world which to my understanding would mean that he is constantly doing interrogations with different suspects, a detectives job in an interrogation is to analyse and observe the suspects body language and emotional behaviour, as an autistic person reading a persons emotions or even just holding eye contact for more than 3 seconds is incredibly difficult, i believe he has Asperger’s which is definitely related to autism , this would explain why he doesn’t have all the symptoms of autism, i also believe he has OCPD and possibly paranoia, but who knows I’m no physiologist.
Asperger's syndrome is actually autism! It's no longer something you can be diagnosed with, nowadays it is diagnosed as autism.
@@scottmon3y380im diagnosed with Asperger’s and I didn’t even know this wtf ahaha thanks for telling me
@@Garol5467 Hahaha no worries many people don't know it
The only way he might not be autistic is if he is an INTP with ADHD - either way he is 100% neurodivergent
..What if he has audhd and is an intp? (rahhghh i love him)
@@Perilous_perils_forrest would still make him autistic xd
Could be both. Only ADHD I doubt we don't struggle so much with social clues and expressions.
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4:40
Unpopular Opinion: L is not only the most smartest character in Death Note but also the most emo character like BRO NEEDS SOME SUNLIGHT
🤔
Bro what’s the OST that starts at 5:21
I think it's Taikutsu.
@@scottmon3y380 thx gang
4:45 Puppies and cakes, I promise!
Wait am I autistic?!?!?!
BRUUUH who thinks L is autistic ?
Why dont you think he is autistic?
@@youtube-detektiven8839 maybe you should see an autistic irl,to figure it out yourself
Me. And I will type out an essay explaining why if provoked
I thought he has marfan syndrome?.😐🤨
That is also a popular headcanon.
What’s Marfan syndrome?/gq
i dont understand all the self inserts in the comments section - pretty weird to rationalize a characters neurotypicality based on how much they relate to us. also pretty sure even in 06' people were saying he was on the spectrum - he stims, cant socialize, has really weird quirks and has like a savant lvl deductive ability. there was some mention of OCD but im not too sure
I don’t think L was on the spectrum, I think he acted weird and different to throw people off, HOWEVER, with that being said, I do believe Near was on the spectrum 100%
…Or he’s just goofily eccentric? Just because someone doesn’t act “neuro-typical” (whatever that means) doesn’t mean they’re autistic.
Well, you and I are both entitled to our separate opinions and if that's how you feel that's fine. But I would like to note that 1.) I'm not saying he is canonically autistic, I'm saying it's how I see him. 2.) As explained in the video, my reasons for seeing him that way are beyond merely being eccentric.
@@scottmon3y380 The biggest issue with these kinds of videos is people boil down the reasoning behind why these characters seem autistic is characteristics that make that character interesting or unique without falling into a trope, or just being an all around uninteresting character. It all implies that "neuro-typicals" cannot be the way that a character like L Lawliet is without people thinking they are neurodivergent. This sets yet another layer of obnoxious identity politics in the ongoing parasitical phenomena we see as "media representation" Where after autism glorification has come full circle and we end up seeing a lot more of forced into media, it'll cause more bad writing, more tropes, and a general frustrating environment in media where people care about superficial and petty identity politics points like how much of a minority a character is. Neurodivergent characters can be written of course, not saying they shouldn't be, but doesn't it seem counterintuitive to represent an autistic character that you can point out traits that make them autistic? What about those with autism with no visible characteristics of it? Autism is a spectrum, so those affected by it aren't always the same. Furthermore, with that logic, isn't every single character in any story ever made legible to be autistic in someone's headcanon? This form of glorifying a mental condition or disorder or whatever just seems strange. And lately, it hasn't been about representation, it's been about more division in the collective conciousness. Comparing how people with autism are to those who aren't. Why is this even a thing?
@@sleepybosslamb Ouch, sounds like a neurotypical person got really butthurt about someone using actual diagnostic criteria to show L as autistic. Consider the following, there is literally 0 reason for you to be so bothered by this (or to watch a 9+ minute vid about it) unless you are literally just ableist and can't handle autistic representation in media. You then made a massive paragraph full of strawman fallacies - for example, arguing "what about the autistic people that don't show symptoms??" As though that in any way relates to this (oh and btw autistic people who "don't have any visible symptoms" don't exist. Those are autistic people who mask every second they are around you because you are quite obviously not safe to show symptoms around) and "romanticizing mental disorders" which literally isn't even happening here - all for the sake of... what? Trying to make an entire community of autistic people uncomfortable? You didn't disprove a single thing from the video; literally the only thing you did was whine about how you don't want L to be autistic despite him absolutely fitting dx criteria that is actively used to diagnose real people every day.
It would honestly be so much less effort to just come out and say "no! I don't want this character to be autistic because I'm ableist" and call it a day bc you did not hide any of your biases sufficiently.
For the record, on the subject of the "romanticizing mental disorders" strawman you were arguing with, Autism isn't a mental disorder. It's considered a neurological difference (hence the term NeuroDivergent) and unlike actual mental disorders like depression, anxiety, etc, there is literally nothing wrong or harmful about having autism besides the fact that neurotypical people don't like it and intentionally refuse to allow autistic people to live in the way that would allow them to be both comfortable and productive - that is, by never having to mask the way L doesn't mask. So to act like there's something wrong with autism that means it shouldn't be on a show being represented for some reason is really just yet another extension of your ableism peeking through. Similar to deaf people having a culture and pride in that culture (because there is not anything wrong with being deaf, just different than what you and I live like), there is a similar culture and pride for autistic people. Realistically, people with actual mental disorders like MDD, OCD, GAD, etc would still struggle if they were in a society of just others like them. However, autistic people, blind people, deaf people, ADHDers, etc wouldn't. If a group of people could build a happy, functional society if you removed typical people from it, then the problem is ableism, not an issue caused by the disorder itself. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with being proud of being autistic, and there isn't anything to "romanticize".
@@littlesparkkitten If you're finished with your condescending cope about how backwards it is to overanalyze a character's demeanor to try to find a way to see them as neurodivergent, I want to remind you that the west -- specifically the US in north america, is the only place where this nonsense seems to persist. not only was the concept of L Lawliet as a character never once considered to be autistic in creating him, but the fact that you would frame the points I make with buzzwords like "strawman" is incredibly ironic considering the only defense and argument that even hints to the character showing such signs can just be explained by a demeanor that is generally seen as abnormal. I've met a lot of friends on the spectrum, most will show "symptoms" (how self-depricating to call it that imo but ig thats how people say it) but some's symptoms are not social or seen by people because they are more internal. The whole point about the diversity of these symptoms and how if L was indeed neurotypical, he'd be a stereotype, was to show that people's symptoms are different and that is entirely normal. The fact that you'd go as far as to call me ableist for trying to dismiss the naive and psyop ridden post-modern agendas to make a big deal out of mental disorders or "neuro-divergence", whatever the name may be, because it seems counter-productive to represent them the way people are making them out to be, goes to show the genuine lack of social awareness and the need to seek validation and attention on something most don't care about. If people made less of a deal about redundant nonsense like if a character is divergent or typical, there wouldn't be so much conflict. But videos like this exist, and insufferable weirdos like you exist to divide put people in ultra specific and over-categorized boxes of identity. What's next, what kind of childhood trauma L suffered in his past? is he an INFP or an INTP or whatever? what his zodiac sign is? It's trendy to make trivial bs like this the centerpiece of your personality. and its truly sad to see that there's an "autistic community" that drowns itself in deafening ignorance and isolation the way Ive seen it so far. Is it ableist to think caring this much about neurodivergence or whatever is some psycho crazy behavior? absolutely not. But iIdigress. Please continue to cope, weirdo.
@@littlesparkkitten Also I really love the redditor energy I get from you, please use more buzzwords and keep that tone to as condescendingly offputting as possible!
"I'm autistic and I think L is too because I relate to him! 🤓"
I'll kiss it, seems fun.