Debunking Blackshirts and Reds: PART 1 (TikTok repost)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- This is a lengthy series I’m doing for my TikTok. Since the videos are long enough, I will be uploading all of them here for maximum reach. I will still be posting the regular UA-cam videos when I have the time.
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Fascism: A reader's guide
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Hitler's Beneficiaries
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Hitler's True Believers
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Omnipotent Government
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Wages of Destruction
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Deficit Spending in the Nazi Recovery, 1933-1938: A Critical Reassessment
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The Vampire Economy
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Hitler and Nazi Germany
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Planned Chaos
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Hitler: 1889-1936
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Weimar Radicals
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German Big Business and The Rise of Hitler
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The Third Reich in Power
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The Coming of The Third Reich
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The Search for Neofascism
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Italian Industrialists from Liberalism to Fascism
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A History of Fascism
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Market, Socialist, and Mixed Economies
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Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler
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Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
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Feeding The German Eagle
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Since I deleted TikTok, the only thing I've missed from the app was you. So I'm glad to see you continue to reupload here.
I almost downloaded the app just for Ben, but then I remembered all my info goes to the CCP. I can live with the US government seeing my private info, but not the CCP. Screw that.
Same bro that app was to addicting
Bootlickers
Your arguments, in summary, boils down to “a Keynesian tax system is socialist” despite it being the standard of the time, and “Nazi’s are socialist because they’re called National Socialists”.
Fascism is capitalism on life support. Business and the interests of capital are not synonymous, and at times can be contradictory, as can be seen with fascism. Under fascism, value is extracted for private profit, rather than to foster social value… that’s still capitalism, certainly NOT socialism. David Harvey has a book that covers these contradictions in great detail.
Blackshirts and Reds is introductory material and lacks depth and detail, but that’s not the point of the book, it sets context and provides a different perspective. Read other socialist literature if you want detail.
Dumb commie.
Prove your claims that "facism is capitalism on life support". Do it.
@@figp123 The only argument they have is "fascism allows private property" kinda like 99% of societies ever to some degree.
Absolute nonsense. Fascism and communism share the same origins-- heck, even Hitler and Mussolini were marxists before fascist.
The Natsocs allowing privatization proves nothing because at the end of the day, corporate interests must not come at the expense of collective interests (i.e. The German people).
It was not the Natsocs who killed millions in a famine, it was not natsocs who had food shortages and breadlines, it was not natsocs who had teamed with the capitalist UK/USA, it was the COMMIES.
What the hell is a "Keynesian tax system" XD, and yes keynesianism is government regulation and interference in the economy. Often thinking its better than a free market, so they are more on the left side of the economics spectrum.
Honestly starting out your "debunk" by making the argument that fascism is anti-capitalist is just about the biggest way to get literally every single person on the planet to disregard you so cool and thanks for that bozo. Way to play your hand.
No argument detected
It's both Anti-Capitalist and Socialist that's why it's called a THIRD POSITION IDEOLOGY. That's why Socialists and capitalists over if it's capitalist or Socialist
In practice it's pretty leftist, German corporations were ostensibly owned by private companies but the state unions hung over every decision they made.
Fascism is anti capitalist and anti marxist because it's based on a neo hegalianism, not marxism. Fascism is essentially trade unionism with national identity tradition and culture used as the vehicle to actualize the revolution towards a communist society through actualism and populism.
@@hypefogg9790Incorrect; third positionism is itself a branch of fascist ideology, not the whole of fascism itself. There's a reason the Nazis purged such third positionists.
Economic Policy: Nazi economic policies were not socialist but aimed at autarky and rearmament. They worked closely with industrialists and large corporations, many of whom benefited greatly from Nazi policies.
Class Structure: Socialism aims to reduce or eliminate class distinctions. The Nazis, on the other hand, maintained and even reinforced existing class structures, aligning themselves with the wealthy industrialists and the upper classes.
Labor Unions and Leftist Movements: The Nazis violently suppressed socialist and communist organizations and outlawed labor unions, consolidating all labor activities under the Nazi-controlled German Labor Front.
Ideological Goals: The primary goals of the Nazis were based on racial purity, nationalism, and militarism, not on social equality or the collective ownership of the means of production tax breaks and Social Policies: While the Nazis did implement some social policies and tax breaks, these were often aimed at strengthening the state and preparing for war rather than redistributing wealth or achieving social justice.
@@Buffaloguy01Actual ChatGPT response.
@@praxben why do I care when you think nazis were literally socialist.
@@Buffaloguy01 I am correct.
@praxben No, you're not. Literally, all academia disagrees with you.
@@Buffaloguy01 source?
Thank you. Ironically, Blackshirts and Reds is the reason why I stopped being a tankie. Having relatives of Romanian descent, Parenti's fervent defense of Eastern European socialist dictatorships (Romania included, where people literally executed their communist leader) was too much for me. He also defends North Korea and East Germany in the book because they have/had "free" healthcare. Parenti is an idiot, and so is anyone defending his fiendish ideas.
You are on the right side of history. Cheers from Lebanon. You should also tackle Liberalism: A Counter-History by Domenico Losurdo. I haven't seen criticisms of it, and I lack the patience to read a book written by an economically illiterate marxist-leninist dictator apologist.
What was the experience being a tankie?
@@TheoTungsten I felt like I knew it was the right thing. It is normal to want to help the poor. But a totalitarian dictatorship isn't the best way to do it. Neither is subsidizing poverty and unemployment through welfare.
The day in which liberals understand historical context will be amazing. That empires & imperial USA extracted trillions from the largely agrarian global south for centuries, then repurposed that stolen wealth to militaristic adversarial and counter-revolutionary propaganda activity inside those states after they revolutionized. If you need to ask why censorship regimes and "brutality" were necessary, look no further than the US CIA's budget for counter-revolution in China exceeding the fledgling revolutionary state's entire GDP for years after the revolution. Then the ruling classes of the "liberal" countries (entirely dependent upon stealing wealth abroad) can use their pet media orgs to browbeat the "totalitarians" and ramp up the militarism further and further.
Cant stress this enough kids, grow up, libertarian brain rot is real and if you take this kid seriously in any way its prob too late for you to understand the world, but good luck w your MLM.
No arguments lol
@@hoominbeeing Imagine going on a youtube comment section out of all places looking for "arguments"
@@Juan-de5nrOP doesn’t provide an argument but calls it ”libertarian brain rot”. Thus the commentator points out that OP has no arguments for this absurd claim.
You didn't prove anything wrong.
One of the last people allowed to even comment on brainrot would be a person with a Lenin pfp
TIKHistory, but short.
So a mediocre youtuber who deliberately twists and lies to suit his ideological agenda?
@@randomuser3481 cope
@@antagonizingusername "Cope!", says the person whose ideology has accomplished absolutely nothing of note in the entire time it has existed
@@randomuser3481 what do you think my ideology is?
@@antagonizingusername Given that this is an ancap channel, I'd be inclined to assume you are some form of right-libertarian
Bro stop debunking, you r already debunked by Midwestern marx
No he wasn’t
@@ExPwner he got destroyed with facts and logic
No, he did not.@@Commissar_4735
@@ExPwner do you touch yourself to bens videos
imagine getting your politics from some teenager on TikTok lmao
Not a teenager, and you don’t have any arguments.
@@praxben I don't need any, our victory is inevitable
@@randomuser3481 lol
@@randomuser3481 Paris commune, soviet russia, bavarian soviet republic, the whole eastern bloc, china, cuba cambodia, north korea, chaz...
Damm all i see here is victories
@@tugalord don't forget the republic of Alsace Lorraine which lasted for 10 entire DAYS, one of the longest surviving commie nations
The people that need these videos the most will refuse to watch this
Sadly
We don’t watch garbage
@@bigmouthstrikesagain4056bootlicker
Thoughts on the book "The Autonomy of Fascism" by Robert Paxton since I see leftists cite it
It’s generally not good because it conflicts conservatism with Fascism
ok i watched your entire video but didnt notice til the end, but : AI pfp detected, opinion rejected
Womp womp
A wild yakubian deboonker has appeared
why dont you repost your tiktoks as youtube shorts?
UA-cam Shorts is only 1 minute.
@@praxben Can you post these videos more on insta for those of us who hate TikTok. I refuse to download that app.
Great post! Thanks!
I consider myself leftist, but you are correct that nazism is not a capitalist ideology. This argument exemplifies the stipidity and self obsession and self congratulation of most leftist movements. However, nazism was neither a strictly anti capitalist movement. It was above all, a nationalist, racist and pro hirarical ideology. Capitalism and marxusm was not an overall goal, and they concidered both of these ideologies as jewish and degederate. The hirarical superiority of the arian race and self sufficency of germany was more important than anything.
There is no objective analysis of history. The way you interprate history is allways related to how you are imagineing the future.
Bro to say the DAF was some of the largest labour unions in history, when the nazi's banned all labour unions. The DAF itself described its aims as not to represent the interest of workers alone (which is the whole point of a labour union) but was to "see that every single individual should be able to perform the maximum of work." William L Shirer rise and fall of the third reich, "in the DAF the labour trustees, who had the power to set wages, in practice followed the wishes of employers and did not even consult the workers." This is a view that is backed pretty much everywhere even in mainstream news sources like the bbc. You also just take little quotes like how about the fascists didnt benefit capitalists and then say that disproves the claims of them privatising mills and power plants, the problem being you never prove the businesses werent privatised you just say a historian stated fascism didnt support capitalists. There are other small things like saying private property was abolished which just is not true, private property is even stated in your text to not be secured any longer this doesnt mean that private property is abolished at all and it never was. To say 80 enterprises socialising proves anything is crazy, your own text states that only made 150,000 employees under these socialised enterprises compared to their population of over 40 million, and never distinguish between the fact these companies were never nationalised and in reality usually had been state led but still had private shareholders that funded them.
They didn’t ban all unions
@@ExPwner nazi stormtroopers knocked down doors and slaughtered trade unionists, did you not read what i put, they had the biggest trade union organisation that was ran by the government for the government and never gave any rights to their employees, employees didnt even have the right to quit their job
Brilliant video, Ben! A commie mate of mine highly recommended this book a few years back, so I gave it a read. Even though I didn't have the wealth of knowledge you have to refute it, I found myself rolling my eyes and scoffing many times throughout reading it. Can't wait for part 2!
I'll bet most of you tankies haven't even read the book, so i'll give you a little example: Fascism historically has been used to secure the interests of large capitalist interests against the demands of popular democracy. Then and now, fascism has made irrational mass appeals in order to secure the rational ends of class domination. Then Parenti gives us an example of a mom-and-pop store run by Italian immigrants in NYC who sell t shirts with Mussolini's face on them, and calls them bourgeoisie. So if I open a small store and sell t shirt with Lenin's face does that mean, I, a bourgeois capitalist am supporting communism and now capitalism and communism are the same or very similar?
I’ve read the book twice and since you’re apparently illiterate I’ll help you out with a direct quote:
“While walking through New Yorks Little Italy, I passed a novelty shop that displayed posters and T-shirts of Benito Mussolini giving the fascist salute. When I entered the shop and asked the clerk why such items were being offered, he replied, "Well, some people like them. And, you know, maybe we need someone like Mussolini in this country." His comment was a reminder that fascism survives as something more than a historical curiosity.” Where does Parenti ever say that these shop owners are bourgeoisie? I’ll wait.
Reading the book twice is embarrassing
@@Disco_Dem on the contents page under chapter 1 "rational fascism" he notes: Fascism historically has been used to secure the interests of large capitalist interests against the demands of popular democracy. Then and now, fascism has made irrational mass appeals in order
to secure the rational ends of class domination.
Then, when you read the 1st chapter, the first paragraph says: While walking through New Yorks Little Italy, I passed a novelty shop that displayed posters and T-shirts of Benito Mussolini giving the fascist salute. When I entered the shop and asked the clerk why such items were being offered, he replied, "Well, some people like them. And, you know, maybe we need someone like Mussolini in this country."
I'll let you make the connection
bro took an anecdote that is used as nothing as an introduction as though it were the basis of his entire argument
@@heartsofiron4ever There isn't one. The first part is a description of the contents of the chapter, the second part is nothing more than a hook.