19:16 In “Relics”, Scotty said, “A good engineer is always a wee bit conservative, at least on paper.” Therefore, it’s just as (if not more) likely that the capabilities were higher than what was “officially” printed.
Also you don't want your potential opposition to know exactly what your stuff is capable of. I mean the Federation is largely pacifistic... but eh... you never know.
I would think the Delta Flyer, would be good for, what ever the Seals would be in Starfleet. it could hold a small team, it has weapons, it can take a hit, it has speed. It should be used all the time!
I like to think that the USS Voyager had some early form of shuttle manufacture, like we saw on Prodigy. But it was from replicated parts and it was a IKEA shuttle; you still had to put all the parts together. We saw in DISCO that they could craft parts on their ship to craft that suit, and that was near 100 years prior.
I dont see hoe this is still an issue, we know they built TWO Delta Fliers onboard, why wouldn't they be able to build a few smaller shuttles from existing designs? Imo the show should have shown more, made actual plots about the process if developing resources and capabilities to do what we see them do, but the lack of on screen action doesn't make a plot hole.
you literally don't even have to look outside the canon of the Voyager series, the very fact they had the capability to build and rebuild the Delta Flyer shows they had the capability to build shuttles to replace ones lost, especially since the Delta Flyer is a bigger vehicle then any shuttle
it would be interesting if you took all the components of the best from every shuttle pod whether it be aesthetic or functional and created your own shuttle pod
3:20 Not English, but I got it. Once had an English fried ask me why Americans call that compartment a "truck" In case you ever wondered yourself, The Ford Model T (The first mass production car) did not come with a trunk. However it did come with a rack designed such that a steamer trunk could be secured. Later models included a compartment integrated into the body of the car. As it performed the same function as the trunk on a Model T, this compartments was called a trunk. So the real question should be, Why do the English call it a "boot"
I think people are mistaking what Tom Paris was saying when he referred to the "Class 2" Shuttles. He wasn't referring to just one model of craft. He mentions in Extreme risk "Class 2 shuttles just don't cut it here..." He's making a point about all their shuttles. Not just the one model. Class 2 likely refers to small, light, warp capable shuttles that we most commonly see. Delta flyer, and the Type-11 are probably "Class 3" shuttles. Heavier, larger, more independently capable. TLDR: "Class" Likely refers to broad capability of shuttle. While "Type" is the specific model.
When they are referred to as “type” that means there is no class name and they just refer to it as whatever the first ship seen on screen is called, but it’s not official
I can't wait to see the video on the newer shuttles. I love the 23rd century shuttles on Discovery and SNW and the shuttles from season 3 of Picard. They seem better thought out than most shuttle craft in Star Trek history.
I always took "class 2 shuttle" to mean shuttlecraft in general, assuming "Class 1" would be the smallest size, shuttle pods. That could imply that something the size of a Danube Class Runabout would be a "Class 3," and if you see the Star Trek Adventures RPG, their size categories comply with that pretty well. So a "class 2" shuttle could be as big as a Type VII which while cramped was still a lot more room than a Type IX (and had a bathroom). Never seen on screen but described well in the TNG Technical Manual, a Type IX-A shuttle was a cargo shuttle, even bigger than a Type VII. Type VII is my favorite BTW, and the door is in the very front. That viewscreen thing in the middle of the front of the shuttle rises up, and the panel beneath it drops down to form a boarding ramp. We never see that because the set of the interior matches the model as it should, but a 1:1 scale model for exterior shots was never properly built for cast to interact with because the curves of the design (the reason I like it) would have made for a very expensive life-sized filming model.
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I would love to see a video that covers Replimats. How they came to be and why Bashir and Garak hang out there on ds9. Also, there is another scene where they finish eating and they leave their plates behind. Does the system detect they are finished and "beam" the plates and rubbish into the replicator buffers?
They do seem like an Automat. In this case a bank of replicators with a fixed "menu" for easy selection of a quick meal, like during lunch breaks, since Quark didn't really serve food.
@@TrekCentral of course I've seen it but you didn't mention it here, I think it would count as a shuttle type as well, even if it's just an honorable mention.
I like to see you give those captain yachts some love! rather than being just an outline on the underside of the saucer section, surely they deserve to be more than a greebly!
I always get Mr. Plinkett's voice in my head with regards to the Argo vehicle.. "no I'm serious, this happened, this was actually filmed and put in a Star Trek film.. the enlightened Captain Picard that loves books and earl grey also loves red neck off-roading. The only thing spinning faster than those types is Gene Roddenberry in his grave."
The Delta Flyer was by far the most interesting intriguing and fun ship design. To me it looks like a drone boss known as the ADFX-10 from the aircraft simulator game called Ace Combat 7 Skies Unknown. One more thing I'd like to have seen for it, having Jeri Ryan aka Seven Of Nine voice the ADFX-10
I don't know why but I always thought class 1 shuttles were the impulse only shuttlepods and class 2 were the warp capable shuttlecraft. It's highly likely that I made that up at some point trying to make sense of things but works for me. I really like the shuttles in trek. Particularly the designs used in the Kelvin timeline.
Kind of overlooked two or three major points about the shuttles: 1. They seemed to be able to achieve escape velocity from Earth, which is NOT "one quarter impulse" but is rather a little over twice as much. 2. They neatly demonstrate that unspoken technology: anti-gravity. 3. Sometimes some of them demonstrate warp capability, which is surprising considering their size and how "big and complicated" we're always told warp drives are. In short, their greatest ability seems to be to create useful story elements, like stranding a crew, or separating two or more crewmembers from help.
The Delta Flyer explains the constant supply of shuttles Voyager had, it showed they had the capabilities of building small crafts to replace ones they lost.
I'm surprised you never mentioned it, but the naming conventions for shuttles were rather interesting imo. - Cerritos's shuttles are named after national parks in California. - Enterprise's shuttles are named after explorers, scientists, and a writer (Cervantes). - Enterprise-D's shuttles are also named after explorers, scientists, inventors, and fictional pioneers from Starfleet's history (Pike). - Enterprise-E's shuttles are named after oceanographers and historical navies. - Titan's shuttles (Lower Decks, pre-Picard) are named after jazz artists. - Vancouver's shuttles are named after neighbourhoods in the city. - Voyager's shuttles (with the exception of the Delta Flyer and Neelix' ship) are named after explorers and fictional pioneers from Starfleet history (Cochrane).
Why yes, I think I will be pedantic today. Technically speaking a tandem cockpit has its seats positioned one in front of the other, not side by side. Ok I’m done :P
The "revision" type of Galileo has other options there. Basically, the ship name is assigned to the shuttles of each ship. So the ship in the 7th slot of the Enterprise 1701 is the Galileo. The assigned names being more of keeping track of things with each ship. Runabouts have their own names, actual shuttles would have names assigned from their motherships. The Type 2/9 ones, could be that they might be different equipment loadouts for weaponry or sensors built into them with a sensor and armed variant Also, you missed the Olympia-Class shuttle
I've always like the type 7 if i remind right it was to be a executive shuttle a step down from the captain yacht with a more luxurious aft section but budget issue lead to re using the type 6 interior with some changes
I can see it now, the superlaser hits the Doomsday machine and nothing happens. The bridge crew's mouths hit the floor in shock at the epic fail of their main weapon. Then the Doomsday machine shoots back and slowly cuts the Death Star in half.
Outside of shuttlepods, the fact that the shuttles aren't usually warp capable and therefore subject to time dilation if they went fast bothers me. What is the point of sending them on a separate mission if they really can't leave a system? Can't the main ship spend 3 minutes to drop you off instead of you taking 3 days to drive there at 25% impulse?
Why would the shuttle be named Stamets? It's never mentioned he worked or designed it. Just because a character loves taking it up the bum is no reason to name a shuttle after. Besides, even if that were the case, it should have been named Fairy.
19:16 In “Relics”, Scotty said, “A good engineer is always a wee bit conservative, at least on paper.” Therefore, it’s just as (if not more) likely that the capabilities were higher than what was “officially” printed.
There's "Maximum SAFE" and "ABSOLUTE Maximum".
Scotty wrote the book and the regulations in question so there’s that
Also you don't want your potential opposition to know exactly what your stuff is capable of. I mean the Federation is largely pacifistic... but eh... you never know.
I would LOVE to see a 'oddly never mentioned again' compilation list.
I think the Delta flyer was cool
Delta Flyer was Brilliant
The arro shuttle was better, it's too bad it was never used
The aero shuttle was better too bad it went unused
I would think the Delta Flyer, would be good for, what ever the Seals would be in Starfleet. it could hold a small team, it has weapons, it can take a hit, it has speed. It should be used all the time!
I want to see a breakdown of all the handheld energy weapons of all species. Especially the one-offs.
I like to think that the USS Voyager had some early form of shuttle manufacture, like we saw on Prodigy. But it was from replicated parts and it was a IKEA shuttle; you still had to put all the parts together.
We saw in DISCO that they could craft parts on their ship to craft that suit, and that was near 100 years prior.
I'm pretty convinced Voyager had a vehicle replicatot like Protostar.
I dont see hoe this is still an issue, we know they built TWO Delta Fliers onboard, why wouldn't they be able to build a few smaller shuttles from existing designs?
Imo the show should have shown more, made actual plots about the process if developing resources and capabilities to do what we see them do, but the lack of on screen action doesn't make a plot hole.
you literally don't even have to look outside the canon of the Voyager series, the very fact they had the capability to build and rebuild the Delta Flyer shows they had the capability to build shuttles to replace ones lost, especially since the Delta Flyer is a bigger vehicle then any shuttle
18:16 That was a Fast and Furious move right there!
Once again, thank you Lt Adam for making my day, always a pleasure to hear from you. Keep up the good work 👍🏼
The first Star Trek ship I ever owned was a 12 inch long Type 6 and I still have it, it fits with 4 inch action figures.
Here's one American (born and bred) who does know what the boot of a car is - and the bonnet.
Don't forget to thank top gear for that lol
And the wings. Can't forget the wings, and sail pannels.
I'd like to see a breakdown of the T'liss class warbird that the Romulans used in the 23rd century. The one with the big glowing plasma torpedoes.
Omg i hadn't heard. My he rest in peace. Cheers Adam
I laughed a lot. Those later shuttles are pretty sleek and cool.
it would be interesting if you took all the components of the best from every shuttle pod whether it be aesthetic or functional and created your own shuttle pod
3:20 Not English, but I got it.
Once had an English fried ask me why Americans call that compartment a "truck" In case you ever wondered yourself, The Ford Model T (The first mass production car) did not come with a trunk. However it did come with a rack designed such that a steamer trunk could be secured.
Later models included a compartment integrated into the body of the car. As it performed the same function as the trunk on a Model T, this compartments was called a trunk.
So the real question should be, Why do the English call it a "boot"
considering it uses an energy weapon, the aqua shuttle having phasers makes sense: the phaser is going to work underwater
I think people are mistaking what Tom Paris was saying when he referred to the "Class 2" Shuttles.
He wasn't referring to just one model of craft. He mentions in Extreme risk "Class 2 shuttles just don't cut it here..." He's making a point about all their shuttles. Not just the one model.
Class 2 likely refers to small, light, warp capable shuttles that we most commonly see. Delta flyer, and the Type-11 are probably "Class 3" shuttles. Heavier, larger, more independently capable.
TLDR: "Class" Likely refers to broad capability of shuttle. While "Type" is the specific model.
This is a fantastic way of putting it.
When they are referred to as “type” that means there is no class name and they just refer to it as whatever the first ship seen on screen is called, but it’s not official
Pure class paying tribute to John Trimble.
The Raptors in BSG are a sort of cross between ST shuttles and IRL Helicopters.
Delta Flyer was slick !
I can't wait to see the video on the newer shuttles. I love the 23rd century shuttles on Discovery and SNW and the shuttles from season 3 of Picard. They seem better thought out than most shuttle craft in Star Trek history.
I hope a video comes about focusing on the shuttles from the 32nd century. I absolutely love the aesthetic of them.
I always took "class 2 shuttle" to mean shuttlecraft in general, assuming "Class 1" would be the smallest size, shuttle pods. That could imply that something the size of a Danube Class Runabout would be a "Class 3," and if you see the Star Trek Adventures RPG, their size categories comply with that pretty well.
So a "class 2" shuttle could be as big as a Type VII which while cramped was still a lot more room than a Type IX (and had a bathroom).
Never seen on screen but described well in the TNG Technical Manual, a Type IX-A shuttle was a cargo shuttle, even bigger than a Type VII.
Type VII is my favorite BTW, and the door is in the very front. That viewscreen thing in the middle of the front of the shuttle rises up, and the panel beneath it drops down to form a boarding ramp. We never see that because the set of the interior matches the model as it should, but a 1:1 scale model for exterior shots was never properly built for cast to interact with because the curves of the design (the reason I like it) would have made for a very expensive life-sized filming model.
Ooh, this is the new shuttle with blast shield! Yeeah! It's a blast shield, it's a blast shield. And it comes down, and it goes up. Blast shield!
I wonder, are there any toilet facilities on the type 6 and other similar warp capable shuttles? 🤔
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Even though I grew up watching the original start trek
I think the delta flyer is the best shuttle
I would love to see a video that covers Replimats. How they came to be and why Bashir and Garak hang out there on ds9. Also, there is another scene where they finish eating and they leave their plates behind. Does the system detect they are finished and "beam" the plates and rubbish into the replicator buffers?
They do seem like an Automat. In this case a bank of replicators with a fixed "menu" for easy selection of a quick meal, like during lunch breaks, since Quark didn't really serve food.
11:05 ...Actually that was Professor Charles Xavier.
For my starship it would have type 18, 9, and 11 shuttles
"Voyager had endless shuttles! How!"
Meanwhile, the replicators everywhere: -_-
You forgot to mention the captains yacht/ aero shuttle 😮💨 such cool designs that never got attention
We’ve recently done a full video on the Aeroshuttle :)
- Jack
@@TrekCentral of course I've seen it but you didn't mention it here, I think it would count as a shuttle type as well, even if it's just an honorable mention.
Where is the Malcom interview from?
It's from the first shuttlepod show that he and Connor do a table read for Shuttlepod One
I like to see you give those captain yachts some love!
rather than being just an outline on the underside of the saucer section, surely they deserve to be more than a greebly!
I think the workbees and such were interesting, would enjoy a video on those.
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I always get Mr. Plinkett's voice in my head with regards to the Argo vehicle.. "no I'm serious, this happened, this was actually filmed and put in a Star Trek film.. the enlightened Captain Picard that loves books and earl grey also loves red neck off-roading. The only thing spinning faster than those types is Gene Roddenberry in his grave."
You can't get much smaller than the shuttlepods... or can you? How about a look into the various escape pods, life boats, and evacuation capsules?
Always liked the Federation scout ship. That and the Delta Flyer combined would have been a sweet ship.
The Delta Flyer was by far the most interesting intriguing and fun ship design. To me it looks like a drone boss known as the ADFX-10 from the aircraft simulator game called Ace Combat 7 Skies Unknown. One more thing I'd like to have seen for it, having Jeri Ryan aka Seven Of Nine voice the ADFX-10
I don't know why but I always thought class 1 shuttles were the impulse only shuttlepods and class 2 were the warp capable shuttlecraft. It's highly likely that I made that up at some point trying to make sense of things but works for me. I really like the shuttles in trek. Particularly the designs used in the Kelvin timeline.
The Kelvin shuttles really look like in universe workhorses, tng shuttles were plush minivans.
Kind of overlooked two or three major points about the shuttles: 1. They seemed to be able to achieve escape velocity from Earth, which is NOT "one quarter impulse" but is rather a little over twice as much. 2. They neatly demonstrate that unspoken technology: anti-gravity. 3. Sometimes some of them demonstrate warp capability, which is surprising considering their size and how "big and complicated" we're always told warp drives are. In short, their greatest ability seems to be to create useful story elements, like stranding a crew, or separating two or more crewmembers from help.
I still can't get over a barber from Peckham became a ships security officer
The Delta Flyer explains the constant supply of shuttles Voyager had, it showed they had the capabilities of building small crafts to replace ones they lost.
Robert April was the first captain of the USS Enterprise. He appeared along with his wife in the animated episode The Counter Clock Incident.
I'm surprised you never mentioned it, but the naming conventions for shuttles were rather interesting imo.
- Cerritos's shuttles are named after national parks in California.
- Enterprise's shuttles are named after explorers, scientists, and a writer (Cervantes).
- Enterprise-D's shuttles are also named after explorers, scientists, inventors, and fictional pioneers from Starfleet's history (Pike).
- Enterprise-E's shuttles are named after oceanographers and historical navies.
- Titan's shuttles (Lower Decks, pre-Picard) are named after jazz artists.
- Vancouver's shuttles are named after neighbourhoods in the city.
- Voyager's shuttles (with the exception of the Delta Flyer and Neelix' ship) are named after explorers and fictional pioneers from Starfleet history (Cochrane).
How about the both city ship?
Why yes, I think I will be pedantic today. Technically speaking a tandem cockpit has its seats positioned one in front of the other, not side by side. Ok I’m done :P
As pedantry goes, that was very constructive. Well done indeed and thankyou! 😅
hey hey hey did I missed my beloved shuttle from DS9? where is my USS Yangtzee Kiang (NCC-72453)
I loved the fact that the galielo 7 actually got a sequel in lower decks it’s an interesting episode
Let's not forget about the Captains Yacht, and the Aeroshuttle (Voyager's never-used shuttle that did exactly what the Delta Flyer was designed for).
That interview with Dominic Keating talking about the episode, anybody got a link to the full thing?
I know that the timeline will be a little different with Endgame, but what about Admiral Janeway's personal shuttle?
I would love to see all the Captain yachts
I like the first completed sketch of the biger executive shuttlecraft, which would have been the egg shape type 7. It would have been cool.
The "revision" type of Galileo has other options there. Basically, the ship name is assigned to the shuttles of each ship. So the ship in the 7th slot of the Enterprise 1701 is the Galileo. The assigned names being more of keeping track of things with each ship. Runabouts have their own names, actual shuttles would have names assigned from their motherships.
The Type 2/9 ones, could be that they might be different equipment loadouts for weaponry or sensors built into them with a sensor and armed variant
Also, you missed the Olympia-Class shuttle
I've always like the type 7 if i remind right it was to be a executive shuttle a step down from the captain yacht with a more luxurious aft section but budget issue lead to re using the type 6 interior with some changes
Did I miss the shuttle pod used in ST: TMP?
I like to see your breakdown on the destroyed starfleet ships on star trek 2009 movie
Why on earth would you want that?
So, since class F from the TOS series has 2 ion engines, would that make it a TIE variant!!!😂😂😂
1:03 Stargate is a copyright of Paramount!? And I thought it was MGM! 😂
Paramount now own MGM
@@TCTurnerReally? I heard Amazon bought it or something?
@@mb2000they're all pretty much interchangeable at this point. Like Marvel, Disney etc
I think we need to deal with the really deep and abiding issue in Trek...What does a real space toilet look like??
I’d love to see a compilation of all the times Captains broke the prime directive….although that might be a two part episode 😂
3-part Temporal Prime Directive would take at LEAST one by itself just to cover Kirk..
Prayers for the family
Will there be a similar video for non-Federation shuttle crafts?
Did the Klingons even have shuttle crafts???
Like to see escape pods, next.
Hey guys what would trains look like in trek universe
Be cool if they did a Star Trek series aboard that white one with the ring around it.
ººThere really should be a Trimble, Roddenberry and Barrett class starship.
We needs a captain's yacht video
The Delta Flyer is the Shuttle to end all Shuttles.
they have not been utilised in any of the series i an familliar with but have you covered the captains yachts
You have custard with cake?😊
im so lost trying to figure out where the "and then theres cake" is from, i know its stargate but im still fkn lost.
I believe it refers to the "cellular peptide cake" made out of councilor Troi.
The Cake is a lie
The movie Continuum.
I want the non-canon "Bradbury" to get covered. The one that looks like the anti borg ships.
The Chaffee Shuttle is armed...It has 3 Phaser arrays clearly visible on the model and also could have Micro Torpedo's
Who is the narrator? Sounds like a young Jon Culshaw doing a young Tom Baker impression.
Narrator, would you like a jelly baby? 😄
YES, PLS, ALL OF THEM 😂
Please just do the original enterprise under Kirk.
I can see it now, the superlaser hits the Doomsday machine and nothing happens. The bridge crew's mouths hit the floor in shock at the epic fail of their main weapon. Then the Doomsday machine shoots back and slowly cuts the Death Star in half.
Don't let anybody fool you. The Venture class is a Starship.
indentation seats. its just what it sounds like. they are seats molded directly into the sides of a bay. think of a formed seat in a fiberglass boat.
Outside of shuttlepods, the fact that the shuttles aren't usually warp capable and therefore subject to time dilation if they went fast bothers me. What is the point of sending them on a separate mission if they really can't leave a system? Can't the main ship spend 3 minutes to drop you off instead of you taking 3 days to drive there at 25% impulse?
Hm how about best unused auxiliary crafts or captains yachts everyone forgot existed.
Why the hell did Voyager not build more Delta Flyer types!!!
I can envision 3 in their shuttle bay, names: Delta Flyer, Kes, Reginald Barcley.
Why would a shuttle need Boots? They don't have feet.
Ugh. Had to include Kurtzman Dreck didn't you.
No runabout?
Ah! The NX-01, the *best* “Enterprise”
I once saw a blueprint of a TMP/TNG aqua shuttle. It likely wasn't canon anyway.
give me the Type 11 any day. That thing is like the Cadillac of starfleet shuttles
We never seen the shuttle below voyager that was a entire loss
The Class-F segment reminded me of how much I dislike all the CGI in the TOS remasters.
Latimer was skewered by a spear? Dang savages... they're only supposed to get the red shirts!
i kinda like the NX Enterprise shuttles more
I always assumed voyager just replicated the photons and shuttles
Live long and prosper
They are all best shuttles, Bront
So, the Galileo was propelled by TWIN ION ENGINES. Does Vader know about this?
Boot=trunk. You’re welcome.
Why would the shuttle be named Stamets? It's never mentioned he worked or designed it. Just because a character loves taking it up the bum is no reason to name a shuttle after. Besides, even if that were the case, it should have been named Fairy.