The 180 rule : HelloOOoO ! Let’s try this one more time for those who are new ... the 180 rule is a limit ! Meaning that you can’t get more than 2700 percentage points in a player (through training). It’s a limit set by nordeus. You are used to see players with different values in their attributes with white attributes usually higher but for the sake of teaching let’s make it simple and imagine a player who has in all his attributes 180% ... if you add up those values .. or multiply by 15 (because there are 15 attributes so it’s the same) the amount will be 2700 percentage points. Now ! ... no one trains their players with all the values at 180% ... (because some attributes are more important than others according to the position of a player ... and so you train the white attributes higher for that reason). But let’s imagine you have a player with all his attributes at 180% ... then the average quality would be 180% and you wouldn’t be able to raise any attribute anymore ... if you wanted to increase say shooting a 10% .. you would need to take away 10% from somewhere else ... get it? For example you can have 190% shooting but with 170% marking ... and all the other attributes at 180%. Because the 180 rule is a limit. Now if you apply this concept to training ... each drill will behave the same way ... if you pick pass go and shoot to train a striker ... just like when you multiplied 180 times 15 ( because the player has 15 attributes) now you have to multiply 180 times 3 ( because the drill trains 3 attributes) and the limit for the drill is 540 ... meaning that when among the 3 attributes the values raise to 540 while training with pass go and shoot you won’t be able to use the drill anymore, it’s a mathematical impossibility. So when people say apply the 180 rule ... it means max the drill .. train to the limit! ... and this is important to train a player efficiently because if you don’t train white attributes to the limit first (and with the right sequence) then you will be raising gray attributes later during the training unnecessarily ... and the player won’t be as well trained as he could be. The problem with following the 180 rule is not just understanding it ... like for example pass go and shoot trains 3 attributes so it’s 180x3=540 ... but another drill would be different ... wing play .. for example .. trains 4 attributes ... so the math is 180x4=720 ... the limit of the drill is when among the 4 attributes all the values (crossing, shooting, finishing and heading) involved in the drill add up to 720 ... you get the idea right? ... long run is 180x2=360 and piggy in the middle is 180x5=900 ... the real problem with the 180 rule is how much you spend in green boosters ... because after the 140 average when using a drill the amount of rests needed increases ... and you pay almost 1 rest per 1% increase ... so this effective method of training can be very expensive ... costing 1300 rest or more to take a player from 3 stars to 180%. However ... a mutant behaves differently ... because a mutant has negative values ... the cost is usually almost 1/3 of what others spend ... this is for a high level mutant .. because it requires that the negative values be very negative in order to train below the 140 average (also called the 140 rule .. same principle ... that among the attributes involved in the drill the average isn’t over 140) ... I HOPE YOU GET IT !! 🤷♂️ I reeeeeaaally do or I’m gonna lose a nerve 😆 if I keep seeing managers who still struggle with the basics ! Pass it along please we can’t have people who still don’t know this. And remember a smart and wise manager makes mutants ... check my playlist for more basics and advance concepts on training ... all positions are there so you can see how to train a normal player or a mutant from 3 stars to 10 stars ! ua-cam.com/play/PLtltHqQKuXzyjy6R1BgHbYHiOjqVK3YWt.html
Im actually on hype and I learnt a lot from the video..how the game works with training.. thanks a lot! great tutorial The problem for me is to collect all these rests!
Why not train your player say suppose till 120 percent so that you can use him when he is 18 years of age and when he is 19 train him fully. I know when you will play him you will increase his grey attributes a little but isn't it worth it ? Wasting a fast trainers 1 year is not an easy pill to swallow. Plus can you tell how many rest you used to train these players ? Isn't it advisable for manager who don't have enough green packs to train till the white attributes reach 140 or 160 ? One more question. Wouldn't it be better if we refrain from teaming multiple position because training more positions will result in less number of grey attributes which will make training your players difficult ?
Martinelli is actually better on paper than the first player, he can't be maintained though. I think that if u struggle to find an 18 yo ft, a 19 yo ft with low greys as in the video is perfect as well. Keep in mind that maintenance costs rests, it's not free.
Do I need to have max world class level training to be able to do this, because I have watched so many videos, I understand eveything I did the math got the right players and I can’t for the life of me get any %improvement on anytbinh
you could use some titles to point the names of the trainings and sum up. and, just like everyone here is pointing out, this needs information on rests.
Hola apolo, quisiera saber cuales son los entrenamientos para un delantero en un orden, porque quiero entrenar dentro de muy poco a un ST con la regla del 180. Porfa ayuda
First, you need 11 players between 18 and 21 years old otherwise it'll be really hard to train so many player to 9 stars. Second, you have to spend more rest packs training 11 rather than training only 5 main players like GK, DC, AML, AMR and ST Third, at the beggining of the new season if your team's starting 11 avarage power is 140% you'll end up playing in a Cup, League, CL and Super League with managers strong as you so you'll strugles to win trophies (I know this feeling). Be smart, just because your avarage team power is low it's doesn't mean that you will lose.
hello. can you answer my question. i follow all the step of your video, but My player can't get 340% shooting from that 3 drill. why? starting from 51% and still on 290% shooting. that 3 drill now ineffective to get training point anymore. help me.
dayang ranita as you said ... it’s because you started from 51% ... this is why you must buy an 18yo ST at 40% & then let him loose 20% with the promotion ... the lower the gray attributes the higher the white attributes. At 51% you have probably speed and passing high ... finishing and strength high .. crossing n heading high ... all attributes involved in raising shooting through pass go and shoot, shooting technique and wing play. Get it?
@@Apolorock11 oh yeah. i got it. this is my 1st try training with 180 rule. i buy fast trainer 19 year old with 51%. got 2221 when creating SA. then i watch your video and try to make 340% shooting. with pass, go and shoot, starting at pass 62, shoot 60, speed 61, and with that drill Pass go shoot i just reach 155 pass, 154 shooting, and 152 speed, but that drill ineffective anymore. then Re-calculate with 180 rules, i will get 357 point and will reach 23,8%. and thats correct. reach about 23,8%, but attribute just reach 459. sorry if my english is not good enough.
I wouldn't used the 180% rule. I rather go for 140-150%. I can maintain my player all white skill attributes with 250% average. So, that I can save more rest pack and trained for the other players I don't care what star or negative what percent for that player is. At least I will trained that player with 18-21y'o with 4-5* respectively. Not gonna wait for next 1 or 2 season just to make grey attributes goes negative 20%
Collin Weyand yes sir :) .... first drill pass go and shoot ... second drill shooting technique and third drill wing play ... this convo should get your shooting to 340% and at that point you stop using wing play ... while the other 2 you max them using the 180 rule
Boys Don't Cry 1400 rests the first one due to not all drills being maxed (from 22% to 174%) and 1300 rest the second (from 47% to 180%) with maxed drills
Apolo Rock That means we need to collect rest every day of the season, and then use it to train 1 player? does that mean we will only train 1 player each season?. Im newbie here 😓
Fadhilah Fatkhur ua-cam.com/video/Kw_gwOj07j4/v-deo.html try this ... also winning events .. 100 tokens from platinum association .. plus tokens from winning tournaments or selling players in negotiations ... and keep in mind .. making one good player that has maintenance and that can last until retirement is better than training something semi-decent and not being able to use him after 25yo ... because many managers just don’t know how to train something that lasts until retirement and so their investment is more expensive than mine could ever be
@@Apolorock11 the best thing that happened due to condition bug is that my training level is already 79 at Level 6. I wish I wasn't busy that day otherwise I would have maxed training drill 😆😆😆
Divyansh Jain this is why I never did a sheet on training drills ... In this video you can see the big difference in outcome a 20% in gray attributes can have ... following the 140 rule instead of the 180 even with the same drill sequence could make it worse ... either maintenance or efficiency will fall short. I strongly advice you not to do it.
The 180 rule : HelloOOoO ! Let’s try this one more time for those who are new ... the 180 rule is a limit ! Meaning that you can’t get more than 2700 percentage points in a player (through training). It’s a limit set by nordeus. You are used to see players with different values in their attributes with white attributes usually higher but for the sake of teaching let’s make it simple and imagine a player who has in all his attributes 180% ... if you add up those values .. or multiply by 15 (because there are 15 attributes so it’s the same) the amount will be 2700 percentage points. Now ! ... no one trains their players with all the values at 180% ... (because some attributes are more important than others according to the position of a player ... and so you train the white attributes higher for that reason). But let’s imagine you have a player with all his attributes at 180% ... then the average quality would be 180% and you wouldn’t be able to raise any attribute anymore ... if you wanted to increase say shooting a 10% .. you would need to take away 10% from somewhere else ... get it? For example you can have 190% shooting but with 170% marking ... and all the other attributes at 180%. Because the 180 rule is a limit. Now if you apply this concept to training ... each drill will behave the same way ... if you pick pass go and shoot to train a striker ... just like when you multiplied 180 times 15 ( because the player has 15 attributes) now you have to multiply 180 times 3 ( because the drill trains 3 attributes) and the limit for the drill is 540 ... meaning that when among the 3 attributes the values raise to 540 while training with pass go and shoot you won’t be able to use the drill anymore, it’s a mathematical impossibility. So when people say apply the 180 rule ... it means max the drill .. train to the limit! ... and this is important to train a player efficiently because if you don’t train white attributes to the limit first (and with the right sequence) then you will be raising gray attributes later during the training unnecessarily ... and the player won’t be as well trained as he could be.
The problem with following the 180 rule is not just understanding it ... like for example pass go and shoot trains 3 attributes so it’s 180x3=540 ... but another drill would be different ... wing play .. for example .. trains 4 attributes ... so the math is 180x4=720 ... the limit of the drill is when among the 4 attributes all the values (crossing, shooting, finishing and heading) involved in the drill add up to 720 ... you get the idea right? ... long run is 180x2=360 and piggy in the middle is 180x5=900 ... the real problem with the 180 rule is how much you spend in green boosters ... because after the 140 average when using a drill the amount of rests needed increases ... and you pay almost 1 rest per 1% increase ... so this effective method of training can be very expensive ... costing 1300 rest or more to take a player from 3 stars to 180%.
However ... a mutant behaves differently ... because a mutant has negative values ... the cost is usually almost 1/3 of what others spend ... this is for a high level mutant .. because it requires that the negative values be very negative in order to train below the 140 average (also called the 140 rule .. same principle ... that among the attributes involved in the drill the average isn’t over 140) ... I HOPE YOU GET IT !! 🤷♂️ I reeeeeaaally do or I’m gonna lose a nerve 😆 if I keep seeing managers who still struggle with the basics ! Pass it along please we can’t have people who still don’t know this.
And remember a smart and wise manager makes mutants ... check my playlist for more basics and advance concepts on training ... all positions are there so you can see how to train a normal player or a mutant from 3 stars to 10 stars !
ua-cam.com/play/PLtltHqQKuXzyjy6R1BgHbYHiOjqVK3YWt.html
Im actually on hype and I learnt a lot from the video..how the game works with training.. thanks a lot! great tutorial
The problem for me is to collect all these rests!
Why not train your player say suppose till 120 percent so that you can use him when he is 18 years of age and when he is 19 train him fully.
I know when you will play him you will increase his grey attributes a little but isn't it worth it ? Wasting a fast trainers 1 year is not an easy pill to swallow.
Plus can you tell how many rest you used to train these players ? Isn't it advisable for manager who don't have enough green packs to train till the white attributes reach 140 or 160 ?
One more question. Wouldn't it be better if we refrain from teaming multiple position because training more positions will result in less number of grey attributes which will make training your players difficult ?
How many rests you use for this training ST?
Martinelli is actually better on paper than the first player, he can't be maintained though. I think that if u struggle to find an 18 yo ft, a 19 yo ft with low greys as in the video is perfect as well. Keep in mind that maintenance costs rests, it's not free.
can u lists all training required w/ the right sequences.
Que grande Apolo!!
Do I need to have max world class level training to be able to do this, because I have watched so many videos, I understand eveything I did the math got the right players and I can’t for the life of me get any %improvement on anytbinh
You could make this video more simple, now I am confused and stopped watching modway
I didn't understand anything
you could use some titles to point the names of the trainings and sum up. and, just like everyone here is pointing out, this needs information on rests.
my head is actually hurting working this out jeezo surely easier methods than this ??
Great work
How many green do we need for 160 st ?
1000+
Hello , I already trained an st , my question it's , fitness it's not important ? Bcz I trained fitness as well xd
Amazing.....👌👌👍👍👍
Hola apolo, quisiera saber cuales son los entrenamientos para un delantero en un orden, porque quiero entrenar dentro de muy poco a un ST con la regla del 180.
Porfa ayuda
My legend
Pls someone tell me what drills i train after i finish pass go and shoot, shooting teq and wing play .
Isnt it better to use 140 rule so I can make 11 Players instead of 180 rule for 3 or 4 Players?
First, you need 11 players between 18 and 21 years old otherwise it'll be really hard to train so many player to 9 stars.
Second, you have to spend more rest packs training 11 rather than training only 5 main players like GK, DC, AML, AMR and ST
Third, at the beggining of the new season if your team's starting 11 avarage power is 140% you'll end up playing in a Cup, League, CL and Super League with managers strong as you so you'll strugles to win trophies (I know this feeling).
Be smart, just because your avarage team power is low it's doesn't mean that you will lose.
awesome!
Good thinking how many greens?
Apolo how many greens do u use ? 1300 is that correct ? So I need 14300 greens for 11 Players? I will save them from now on
legend says u are saving them to this day :DDDDDDD
I Had 8900 but stopped playing two years ago
Hi,
How many rests are needed to maintain the player year after year?
I mean when the player will have 20, 25 or 30 years old?
Can you name pls all the drills you used ?
I was just going to train st🥰🥰🥰🥰
Divyansh Jain make it awesome bro
Awesome video LEGEND!
hello. can you answer my question. i follow all the step of your video, but My player can't get 340% shooting from that 3 drill. why? starting from 51% and still on 290% shooting. that 3 drill now ineffective to get training point anymore. help me.
dayang ranita as you said ... it’s because you started from 51% ... this is why you must buy an 18yo ST at 40% & then let him loose 20% with the promotion ... the lower the gray attributes the higher the white attributes. At 51% you have probably speed and passing high ... finishing and strength high .. crossing n heading high ... all attributes involved in raising shooting through pass go and shoot, shooting technique and wing play. Get it?
@@Apolorock11 oh yeah. i got it. this is my 1st try training with 180 rule. i buy fast trainer 19 year old with 51%. got 2221 when creating SA. then i watch your video and try to make 340% shooting.
with pass, go and shoot, starting at pass 62, shoot 60, speed 61, and with that drill Pass go shoot i just reach 155 pass, 154 shooting, and 152 speed, but that drill ineffective anymore. then Re-calculate with 180 rules, i will get 357 point and will reach 23,8%. and thats correct. reach about 23,8%, but attribute just reach 459. sorry if my english is not good enough.
It is very hard to find 18 yr fast trainer at 40
What training did you do?
Can you comment the training sequence here
I wouldn't used the 180% rule. I rather go for 140-150%. I can maintain my player all white skill attributes with 250% average. So, that I can save more rest pack and trained for the other players
I don't care what star or negative what percent for that player is. At least I will trained that player with 18-21y'o with 4-5* respectively. Not gonna wait for next 1 or 2 season just to make grey attributes goes negative 20%
nice explain.. but how many rest he used .. video is not interesting for players!!!
Was the third drill wing play?
Collin Weyand yes sir :) .... first drill pass go and shoot ... second drill shooting technique and third drill wing play ... this convo should get your shooting to 340% and at that point you stop using wing play ... while the other 2 you max them using the 180 rule
Pls what are all the drills tou used ?
Is this still working?
Drill Vidio analisis and skill drill make 2 hours +++ 😭😭😭
Use the automatic clicker
@@Apolorock11 hey Apolo , i know im late but where can i get a good autoclicker? what do you suggest?
Por favor subtítulos en español
how many green?
Boys Don't Cry 1400 rests the first one due to not all drills being maxed (from 22% to 174%) and 1300 rest the second (from 47% to 180%) with maxed drills
Apolo Rock That means we need to collect rest every day of the season, and then use it to train 1 player? does that mean we will only train 1 player each season?. Im newbie here 😓
Fadhilah Fatkhur ua-cam.com/video/Kw_gwOj07j4/v-deo.html try this ... also winning events .. 100 tokens from platinum association .. plus tokens from winning tournaments or selling players in negotiations ... and keep in mind .. making one good player that has maintenance and that can last until retirement is better than training something semi-decent and not being able to use him after 25yo ... because many managers just don’t know how to train something that lasts until retirement and so their investment is more expensive than mine could ever be
@@Apolorock11 the best thing that happened due to condition bug is that my training level is already 79 at Level 6.
I wish I wasn't busy that day otherwise I would have maxed training drill 😆😆😆
@@Apolorock11 Is there a way to get friends who are under me?
Apolo am level 5 . Can i use 140 rule?
Divyansh Jain this is why I never did a sheet on training drills ... In this video you can see the big difference in outcome a 20% in gray attributes can have ... following the 140 rule instead of the 180 even with the same drill sequence could make it worse ... either maintenance or efficiency will fall short. I strongly advice you not to do it.
Apolo Rock but 1300 greens are just too much for a level 5 player
subtitel indonesia please
Bro your video is to long and didn't have any example... Any drills for Finishing etc...
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@@Apolorock11 ?!??
@@Apolorock11 can u lists all training required w/ the right sequences.