I purchased mine from eBay with i5 16 GB ram 250gb SSD and wireless card and CD Cady for £50.00 and love it now my daily driver with Windows 10 and duel boot Linux Mint.
When an electrical short (probably) killed my main PC, I yanked my old (2015) Lenovo M73 Tiny out of the closet...and it works perfectly. I'm typing on it now. I was then inspired to pull out my sweetie's 2011 Toshiba that I put Ubuntu on several years ago...and it still works, too. I love these old, tried-and-true computers. They are both now a back-up for my new PC, which is again a Lenovo Tiny.
I put a 512 gig SSD / 16gb of ram new thermal paste and and now its been hackintoshed. Mine came with the i7 4765T right away. I have a second M73 with an i3 in it too that now has 8gb of ram. Gotta love those company sales when they're done. I think mine were both used in a warehouse but with some time and cleaner they're like new again.
Thinking of purchasing a i7 4770s cpu for mine. I have a i5 4590t in it right now. If I can get the i7 fairly cheap, I think it will improve the PC. I installed Batocera retro OS on it. Plays good but I know this will make it run even better.
how does it perform in h.255 video decoding? planning to use this as a media server that can transcode h.265 videos into the more compatible h.264 format.
Hi, Looking to buy this machine at my used computers local pc store. The one they have comes with a i5-4570T, 4 GB RAM (will bump it to 8 GB) and 320 GB HDD (that I will replace with my own 2.5 inch ssd). Wanted to know how loud the fan gets when idle / basic office tasks / UA-cam videos. I really want it to be whisper quiet in my office room. Thanks for letting me know!
@@BrooksyTech Is it whisper quiet when doing some Excel / Word / Social media? Hoping that I can work on this PC late at night when the house is quiet without always hearing a huge humming sound....
This is super quite. It has 3 modes in the bios. This is definitely a must buy. Purchase the DW1550 BCM94352HMB WiFi card like mentioned by another post. You can run MacOS Catalina flawlessly as I have done. Follow directions by TechNolli on UA-cam. I’m trying to purchase as many as I can at a reasonable price 😂
@@edgar8387 i have a couple m92p and a m93p and for some reason i want to buyer another.... i mean i am using them all but its starting to feel like an obsession, plex/file server (with external usb), linux router, media pc/steam and now i need another server
@@johnrobinson4445 im just wondering if its on board graphics strong enough to upscale to my 65in tv thats all i use pc to watch movies and my old pc with a gtx 750 is goin gout on me and want something cheap to replace my streaming pc
I am thinking about playing around with a modified cooling fan situation. Does anyone know if speedfan will work with this mobo in case the bios system does not work like I want?
What I did was solder the proprietary fan wires to a female PWM connector and plugged in a 80x80x10.8mm akasa fan, cut a hole in the case with a 76mm hole cutter, and put a fan filter over it. Improved temperatures a lot, and it's so quiet on idle, quieter than the stock fan. Could push for a 15mm fan probably, close to even 20mm perhaps. Anyway, under full load, temperatures were 81c with proprietary fan, now 61-64c. I did try a 40x40x10mm noctua fan (was trying to 3d print my own mount thing, results sucked though), but the fan didn't spin right away on boot and the BIOS moaned about it. No issues with the akasa fan.
@@Interknetz That is pretty similar to what I had planned and I can do a little testing first before I fully go through with cutting the case half. I planned to put a fairly large heat sink (have to work on mounting) on the cpu. (Do away will all of the factory sink/fan. I knew I would have to mount a fan on the outside with the thickness of just about any decent sink. Ruins the clean look but not really a big deal. I may try doing that internally like you did, it may do all I need. I am not gaming or anything like that. That was a first thought, just a larger/better fan but then I started going for more, maybe a little extreme. Mine is not too loud for me but then it is partly under a desk and not right near me. I always like to get larger fans so I can run them slow but sometimes it is hard to do even with speedfan and bios control may be why I will have to try speedfan. I don’t run this hard to run up temps, but maybe I am addicted to things like this as it isn’t like I have tons of time to do it all, but I want to. I have always hated how warm laptops run compared to how my desktop system will cool. Sounds to me like you really kind of need more air and just that sure did a lot. And it sounds like the factory cooler works pretty well it just needs more air to help in the confines, same problem laptops seem to have. Did you do anything to direct the flow to the rear of the case and through the cooler fins or is the flow just open to the whole area? Thanks for the info on your setup.
@@fredc8346 Here's a picture: i.imgur.com/qJMSVRQ.png Didn't take one internally, but it has enough clearance of all the components. When I did 3D print my own custom mounting thing for a 40x40x10mm noctua fan the temps didn't change, the only plus side was a non-proprietary solution sort of. In any case, the fan is just intaking air, and I can feel it push some out to the rear mostly, and some to the front. The main focus is just cooling the heat pipe itself as far as I could tell. I did hook up the fan prior to cutting a hole mind you, and held it in a few different places to find where it'd make the best difference. Also I lied a bit, I didn't cut a 76mm hole, HOWEVER, I wish I did. 80mm hole was too big, hence the 3D printed fan filter (mesh was taken off the fan filter I had bought). I also do plan on replacing it with a different mesh that has smaller holes to further limit dust without really impacting airflow too much. Also will be thinner than the one in the picture. Anyway I did this because the proprietary fan to replace would work out costing about the same as cutting a hole and DIY-ing it, except I'd get better temperatures, quieter, and a non-proprietary fan that I can replace cheaper in future if it dies. Also the fan that was in it was fairly audible in my bedroom at night (even at idle). The replacement is barely audible at idle even up close. Just note, if you do cut a hole in the panel, tape the whole side up, mine was immaculate until the cutter snagged. Ah well! It does help if you do have a 3D printer to make a template of an 80mm fan too for the screw holes which if I recall the screw holes ate 71.5mm apart. Also did a write up thing a few weeks ago on it forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/Lenovo-Thinkcentre-m93p-tiny-problem-overheating/m-p/4516104?page=3#5181928 Lemme know if ya need anything else
Hello, I will appreciate if you could help me. I have one M93p tiny too, but without the serial port. I want to install it. I have looked for the serial port for a long time, but no success. I noticed that your computer has a serial port. could you tell me the part number of it? thank you very much. by the way, the serial port(com1) on my motherboard is 10-pin
@@BrooksyTech However, this is not the case, and some manufacturers in mainland China have already given solutions. Using the perfect network card（intel i210 ）, the mini pcie is transferred out, itmakes good effects. The only thing that needs to be done is to whitelist the hardware of the computer so that the hardware is no longer just a list card.The M93P shell change machine I use now, the fourth generation of NEC brand small mainframe, it looks and has the aesthetic of industrial design, the performance is also very good, it can run up to 1000 megabytes of bandwidth
@@jifengliu2062 Sure you can whitelist but have you ever modded a bios via an LPC mod tool? Because I have. Its no easy task. Not simple as running a program on that pc. You need to have another computer and and understanding of hex editing. No easy task. So not sure what your point is.
@@BrooksyTech I mean, the second network card can be used by whitelisting. The method of whitelisting is also relatively simple. This method is feasible and verified
So that model does have 2 ram slots. got a hold of a model, m7 10q i belive, like yours, maybe a couple more usb & dp ports.. think it may have either a ssd or m.2, gotta open it! Thanks 🤓
@@BrooksyTech i opened my box up, it has a 128GB SSD in it. Do you know how to reset the bios on these mini PCs? I see a jumper pin header near the rear of the m/board. The cmos battery looks like its under the fan. Thanks again - i jumpered the 2 & 3 pins, so now its reset. Thanks. 🤓
@@BrooksyTech already did it! Am trying to get past username & p/word. Not worried about previous owners info, just want to reset it so its a clean machine! I may try hirens boot usb or nirsoft. Thanks again 🤓😁
@@BrooksyTech heres a good ? for you. Is there a way to factory reset the lenovo mini PCs? Also, when i opened my mini, on the front bottom corner, there is what appears to be a small switch. When you put the cover back on, it pushes it in. With the cover on, you wont see it. What is that sw for? Thanks again. Your model may/ may not have it. 🤓
So, after loading Windows, how does it perform ? I am considering purchasing a refurbished Intel Core i7-4765T 2GHz, vPro, 16GB DDR3, 256GB SSD, 5x USB 3.0, GigE, Win 10 Pro 64-bit from TigerDirect.
I am running Core i5-4590 (84w) 3.3GHz, 16GB DDR3. My biggest problem was the poor temperature when running even at idle load. Without mod on the case and cooling, my idle temp was at 68-75c and with load at 89-90+. Just playing a 4k video my temps would immediately reach 100c in a few seconds and that would be when CoreTemp will automatically shut it down. So I had to mod it a bit by removing the stock cooling fan and heat sink and replacing it with a small tower heat pipe/heat sink. Yeah, I had to basically reduce the ultra SFF by adding an extra height, cutting a hole on the cover of the case for the new heatsink, and modifying the mounting bracket to accommodate a heatsink designed for desktops. Still smaller footprint but my idle temp is now at 36-38 and even with full load my temps do not even exceed 80c. A win for my CPU's lifetime and the speed of the system significantly increased. If you plan on using this with a CPU that is requires a significant amount of wattage, then you'll need to modify your cooling.
I bought one for £15 😏 come with 128gb ssd and 4gb ram but I have now upgraded it to 250gb ssd and 8gb ram from a free lenovo ideapad laptop I was given 💪🏻
Right, but seems like a lot of laptops just aren't up to or made to do what this little professional business quality pc will do without spending much. Easy to work on and can be upgraded in the cooling area.
Hey, I have the same one but it came with the i5. Do You know how far I can go to upgrade de processor? I'm planning to do a Hackintosh on this one to run AutoCAD. Thanks.
Yes these little laptop type fans can get kind of loud but you don't have to have it in your face like a laptop has to be. You can move it away a few feet and also upgrade the fan if you want. I guess it can depend on more than one factor but I mostly don't see why anyone that seriously plays games would not get a proper desktop. They really aren't that expensive if you build your own.
I purchased mine from eBay with i5 16 GB ram 250gb SSD and wireless card and CD Cady for £50.00 and love it now my daily driver with Windows 10 and duel boot Linux Mint.
When an electrical short (probably) killed my main PC, I yanked my old (2015) Lenovo M73 Tiny out of the closet...and it works perfectly. I'm typing on it now.
I was then inspired to pull out my sweetie's 2011 Toshiba that I put Ubuntu on several years ago...and it still works, too.
I love these old, tried-and-true computers. They are both now a back-up for my new PC, which is again a Lenovo Tiny.
I put a 512 gig SSD / 16gb of ram new thermal paste and and now its been hackintoshed. Mine came with the i7 4765T right away. I have a second M73 with an i3 in it too that now has 8gb of ram. Gotta love those company sales when they're done. I think mine were both used in a warehouse but with some time and cleaner they're like new again.
Thinking of purchasing a i7 4770s cpu for mine. I have a i5 4590t in it right now. If I can get the i7 fairly cheap, I think it will improve the PC. I installed Batocera retro OS on it. Plays good but I know this will make it run even better.
What WiFi Card did you go with? How do you find the one's that are white listed? I want to find a WiFi/Bluetooth combo card for it that'll work.
I gave you like from the moment your cats appeared
nice to see you have low af standards
Pls Help mines not working no post. It was ok just suddenly one day when I turn it on. Tried everything except removing the CMOS battery. Model m720q
how does it perform in h.255 video decoding? planning to use this as a media server that can transcode h.265 videos into the more compatible h.264 format.
Options to upgrade the cooler/heat pipe for this thing today?
Hi,
Looking to buy this machine at my used computers local pc store.
The one they have comes with a i5-4570T, 4 GB RAM (will bump it to 8 GB) and 320 GB HDD (that I will replace with my own 2.5 inch ssd).
Wanted to know how loud the fan gets when idle / basic office tasks / UA-cam videos.
I really want it to be whisper quiet in my office room.
Thanks for letting me know!
I can't even hear mine from a couple feet away. I am sure if I played some games it would ramp up but the fans are fairly quiet.
@@BrooksyTech Is it whisper quiet when doing some Excel / Word / Social media? Hoping that I can work on this PC late at night when the house is quiet without always hearing a huge humming sound....
TehPcKid 100% silent. I live out in the sticks and I cannot hear the fan other than when I put my ear 30cm away from my device with an i5
This is super quite. It has 3 modes in the bios. This is definitely a must buy. Purchase the DW1550 BCM94352HMB WiFi card like mentioned by another post. You can run MacOS Catalina flawlessly as I have done. Follow directions by TechNolli on UA-cam. I’m trying to purchase as many as I can at a reasonable price 😂
@@edgar8387 i have a couple m92p and a m93p and for some reason i want to buyer another.... i mean i am using them all but its starting to feel like an obsession, plex/file server (with external usb), linux router, media pc/steam and now i need another server
How can I bypass M93p win10 pro, they set homepage to put in my MS email so how can I reset bios to avoid home page?
I know this is a 3 months old question. But I'm curious what you were asking since I couldn't make sense of it.
can i use this to watch 4k movies on my big tv ill just need that display to hdmi converter?
I'm not sure the graphics will drive a full 4K picture. It will show, just probably not at full 4K.
@@johnrobinson4445 im just wondering if its on board graphics strong enough to upscale to my 65in tv thats all i use pc to watch movies and my old pc with a gtx 750 is goin gout on me and want something cheap to replace my streaming pc
I fitted a Intel Xeon E3-1265L v3 @ 8x 3.7GHz with out any problems.
i cant enter bios with f1 or f12 button. Is there any way?
I am thinking about playing around with a modified cooling fan situation. Does anyone know if speedfan will work with this mobo in case the bios system does not work like I want?
What I did was solder the proprietary fan wires to a female PWM connector and plugged in a 80x80x10.8mm akasa fan, cut a hole in the case with a 76mm hole cutter, and put a fan filter over it.
Improved temperatures a lot, and it's so quiet on idle, quieter than the stock fan. Could push for a 15mm fan probably, close to even 20mm perhaps.
Anyway, under full load, temperatures were 81c with proprietary fan, now 61-64c. I did try a 40x40x10mm noctua fan (was trying to 3d print my own mount thing, results sucked though), but the fan didn't spin right away on boot and the BIOS moaned about it. No issues with the akasa fan.
@@Interknetz That is pretty similar to what I had planned and I can do a little testing first before I fully go through with cutting the case half. I planned to put a fairly large heat sink (have to work on mounting) on the cpu. (Do away will all of the factory sink/fan. I knew I would have to mount a fan on the outside with the thickness of just about any decent sink. Ruins the clean look but not really a big deal. I may try doing that internally like you did, it may do all I need. I am not gaming or anything like that. That was a first thought, just a larger/better fan but then I started going for more, maybe a little extreme.
Mine is not too loud for me but then it is partly under a desk and not right near me. I always like to get larger fans so I can run them slow but sometimes it is hard to do even with speedfan and bios control may be why I will have to try speedfan.
I don’t run this hard to run up temps, but maybe I am addicted to things like this as it isn’t like I have tons of time to do it all, but I want to. I have always hated how warm laptops run compared to how my desktop system will cool. Sounds to me like you really kind of need more air and just that sure did a lot. And it sounds like the factory cooler works pretty well it just needs more air to help in the confines, same problem laptops seem to have. Did you do anything to direct the flow to the rear of the case and through the cooler fins or is the flow just open to the whole area? Thanks for the info on your setup.
@@fredc8346 Here's a picture: i.imgur.com/qJMSVRQ.png
Didn't take one internally, but it has enough clearance of all the components. When I did 3D print my own custom mounting thing for a 40x40x10mm noctua fan the temps didn't change, the only plus side was a non-proprietary solution sort of.
In any case, the fan is just intaking air, and I can feel it push some out to the rear mostly, and some to the front. The main focus is just cooling the heat pipe itself as far as I could tell. I did hook up the fan prior to cutting a hole mind you, and held it in a few different places to find where it'd make the best difference.
Also I lied a bit, I didn't cut a 76mm hole, HOWEVER, I wish I did. 80mm hole was too big, hence the 3D printed fan filter (mesh was taken off the fan filter I had bought).
I also do plan on replacing it with a different mesh that has smaller holes to further limit dust without really impacting airflow too much. Also will be thinner than the one in the picture.
Anyway I did this because the proprietary fan to replace would work out costing about the same as cutting a hole and DIY-ing it, except I'd get better temperatures, quieter, and a non-proprietary fan that I can replace cheaper in future if it dies. Also the fan that was in it was fairly audible in my bedroom at night (even at idle). The replacement is barely audible at idle even up close.
Just note, if you do cut a hole in the panel, tape the whole side up, mine was immaculate until the cutter snagged. Ah well! It does help if you do have a 3D printer to make a template of an 80mm fan too for the screw holes which if I recall the screw holes ate 71.5mm apart.
Also did a write up thing a few weeks ago on it
forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/Lenovo-Thinkcentre-m93p-tiny-problem-overheating/m-p/4516104?page=3#5181928
Lemme know if ya need anything else
I am wondering if there is physical space for (2) 2.5 inch SATA SSD on the inside with SATA hook up?
deffo not, 1 x 2.5" only. Unless you get a NVME to SATA caddy and put 2 drives in that
@@boerboel7777 Thanks for responding.
i bought one with msata slot.
where did u bought the power connector cable , i got a extra power adaptor but dont have a tip to connect
Is it possible to solder and use the msata connector
How undervolt ?
What i7 would be good to pot in the Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p
i bought one with i7 4770 installed, east to go 70 😂 Then i upgrade the heatsinm to double layer copper keep at 5x at idle
i think you can bought i7-4785t. it is 35w should keep it cooler
Just got none off ebay. Mine is a later model. It has hdmi in the back and a 500 gb ssd.
is it miny pc or small farm factor (sff) pc? Size seems large.
mini pc
ram is laptop type??
it is basically a laptop without display.
thanks for this amazing video, i was wondering what is the highest model of cpu this mb can support? i5 10000+?
Does this pc has a graphic card?? IOs it good for gaming?
pls answer asap
The intel CPU has an integrated graphics. Its okay for playing emulators and 10 year old games. It won't play any newer games.
Only integrated. You can however get the SFF version which is a bit bigger, but is able to have discrete graphics.
This thing works great for a copywriter who also loves Plex!
Hello, I will appreciate if you could help me. I have one M93p tiny too, but without the serial port. I want to install it. I have looked for the serial port for a long time, but no success. I noticed that your computer has a serial port. could you tell me the part number of it? thank you very much. by the way, the serial port(com1) on my motherboard is 10-pin
Bro please reply quick, does it have wifi
Broosky I don't know if you will get back to me but have you tried to install an msata drive port?. thanks.
Nope I have not. That's probably to complicated of a task for me.
@@BrooksyTech thanks. i'm just happy it can be done. to bad the vid chip--isn't even- one gig
The mini computer is used to run the Openwrt system under the PVE, which can maximize the bandwidth
Yes, the only problem with this computer is it only has one NIC. So not the best for pfsense or another router OS.
@@BrooksyTech However, this is not the case, and some manufacturers in mainland China have already given solutions. Using the perfect network card（intel i210 ）, the mini pcie is transferred out, itmakes good effects. The only thing that needs to be done is to whitelist the hardware of the computer so that the hardware is no longer just a list card.The M93P shell change machine I use now, the fourth generation of NEC brand small mainframe, it looks and has the aesthetic of industrial design, the performance is also very good, it can run up to 1000 megabytes of bandwidth
@@jifengliu2062 Sure you can whitelist but have you ever modded a bios via an LPC mod tool? Because I have. Its no easy task. Not simple as running a program on that pc. You need to have another computer and and understanding of hex editing. No easy task. So not sure what your point is.
@@BrooksyTech I mean, the second network card can be used by whitelisting. The method of whitelisting is also relatively simple. This method is feasible and verified
Nice just picked up one myself!!
This a great Linux workstation
Yeah it definitely is!
So that model does have 2 ram slots. got a hold of a model, m7 10q i belive, like yours, maybe a couple more usb & dp ports.. think it may have either a ssd or m.2, gotta open it! Thanks 🤓
Yeah. They are stacked on top of each like a laptop.
@@BrooksyTech i opened my box up, it has a 128GB SSD in it. Do you know how to reset the bios on these mini PCs? I see a jumper pin header near the rear of the m/board. The cmos battery looks like its under the fan. Thanks again - i jumpered the 2 & 3 pins, so now its reset. Thanks. 🤓
@@j.lietka9406 probably easiest would be to just reset everything via the bios. Mash the f1 key during the boot screen to get into the bios.
@@BrooksyTech already did it! Am trying to get past username & p/word. Not worried about previous owners info, just want to reset it so its a clean machine! I may try hirens boot usb or nirsoft. Thanks again 🤓😁
@@BrooksyTech heres a good ? for you. Is there a way to factory reset the lenovo mini PCs? Also, when i opened my mini, on the front bottom corner, there is what appears to be a small switch. When you put the cover back on, it pushes it in. With the cover on, you wont see it. What is that sw for? Thanks again. Your model may/ may not have it. 🤓
Can i play games with this?
Sure, but the fan will go up like a VACUUM cleaner!!! :\
It will play old games and emulators just fine. Won't do very well with new games.
@@BrooksyTech HALO?
So, after loading Windows, how does it perform ? I am considering purchasing a refurbished Intel Core i7-4765T 2GHz, vPro, 16GB DDR3, 256GB SSD, 5x USB 3.0, GigE, Win 10 Pro 64-bit from TigerDirect.
I/O to the hard drive is the biggest limitation. Makes mine run SO SLOW!
I am running Core i5-4590 (84w) 3.3GHz, 16GB DDR3. My biggest problem was the poor temperature when running even at idle load. Without mod on the case and cooling, my idle temp was at 68-75c and with load at 89-90+. Just playing a 4k video my temps would immediately reach 100c in a few seconds and that would be when CoreTemp will automatically shut it down. So I had to mod it a bit by removing the stock cooling fan and heat sink and replacing it with a small tower heat pipe/heat sink. Yeah, I had to basically reduce the ultra SFF by adding an extra height, cutting a hole on the cover of the case for the new heatsink, and modifying the mounting bracket to accommodate a heatsink designed for desktops. Still smaller footprint but my idle temp is now at 36-38 and even with full load my temps do not even exceed 80c. A win for my CPU's lifetime and the speed of the system significantly increased. If you plan on using this with a CPU that is requires a significant amount of wattage, then you'll need to modify your cooling.
And I also had to delid my CPU since 4th gen were a bit old and I had to replace the thermal paste which by this time reduced to a powder.
I bought one for £15 😏 come with 128gb ssd and 4gb ram but I have now upgraded it to 250gb ssd and 8gb ram from a free lenovo ideapad laptop I was given 💪🏻
Hi. What temperatures do you get on the CPU? Thanks
I’m using it currently and It’s overheating, I’m looking upgrade the cooler and can somehow
just been given one of these 16GGb Ram i5 4590t CPU EVO 840 500GB SSD. it looks new.
A laptop basically. Well, without the screen.
Pretty much.
Right, but seems like a lot of laptops just aren't up to or made to do what this little professional business quality pc will do without spending much. Easy to work on and can be upgraded in the cooling area.
Hey, I have the same one but it came with the i5. Do You know how far I can go to upgrade de processor?
I'm planning to do a Hackintosh on this one to run AutoCAD.
Thanks.
metalslugmasters i7 4790s is the highest you can go, they are still pretty expensive
metalslugmasters i7 4xxxT will be fit what you need
Thank you guys.
@@metalslugmasters BTW，When you do hacktosh thing, Are you going to insert a min PCIE dw1820a for it?
@@弦凝绝 I use a dongle instead, easier to configure, and less invasive.
Good luck with the fan noise playing games on that!
No issues with playing emulators. As long as you are using a low TDP chip there should be any issues.
Yes these little laptop type fans can get kind of loud but you don't have to have it in your face like a laptop has to be. You can move it away a few feet and also upgrade the fan if you want. I guess it can depend on more than one factor but I mostly don't see why anyone that seriously plays games would not get a proper desktop. They really aren't that expensive if you build your own.
Used for Batocera
I got windows 11 on here with dual boot Linux mint
Honestly, emulator is best and watching youtube and other school work and its okay. Playing games buy a gaming pc or build one under 500.
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