one thing ive seen in several reviews of these new tt sets from hornby is if you place all the included circle pieces they dont meet to make a perfect circle they actually wind up being about 3" to long,,, so while everyone seems otherwise impressed lets hope hornby does fix this issue since they are trying to start in this scale
Good video and appraisal of the latest offering from tt120. I have the Scotsman set and the coaches also suffer from a scraping sound much the same as yours. I think the modelling to be very good with excellent detail. Thank you and I am looking forward to seeing further reports.
That’s a shame to hear this problem isn’t just the MK 1s I hope this doesn’t spread to other coaches, it’s not that end of the world and I’m sure some modelling (heaven forbid!) will solve the problem but all the same it’s things like this that can put people off, modellers seem very fussy these days 😆 thanks for watching
@@WesternSignalman I am really disappointed to hear the scraping noise from the coaches in your video, and then to find out that this is NOT an isolated case. I have yet to set up my track and test my loco and coaches, but I suspect I will hear those noises too.
Hi Jamie. What perfect timing - my Easterner arrived today. Excellent review of the trainset - I look forward to the rest of your TT:120 series. I had to look at your rather early videos to find out your name. I tried looking down at this video's comments for your name and found so many interesting issues. I'm going to go back through them and add more comments there.
Like the idea of a TT modern image layout and turning the locomotive into Sir Nigel Gresley although it is being repainted into being predominantly blue at the moment
I had taken the reference in the catalogue to R2 as referring to the minimum practicable radius for the loco and coaches, so I have ordered a set of R2s to go inside the R3s which came with my Scotsman set. So I just think there is a bit of loose writing rather than an error. And my Pullman coaches go round the R3 track without any noticeable scraping. But my track IS pinned down, though so far quite minimally. Thanks for the video.
This video arrived just in time for my morning coffee, very enjoyable watch. Very disappointed to see the lack of quality control from Hornby, particularly the scraping noise from the coaches. Looking forward to seeing the progress of this next build.
Cheers Terry, yes the was some disappointments with the set but overall I’m happy with it and hoping these issues are just teething troubles. Thanks for watching
There are several inaccuracies and wrong assumptions made in this video and running the coaches on track which is not pinned down flat will cause the effect. Pin the track down and the issue goes away.
That's the second one in a video that has shown a part that has come off. One video shows it running on the actual set's clean track, but they then show how dirty the wheels were, after only a few times around on the track. Watching some other videos, it looks like the wheels scrapping is on all the sets with the same size curves.
Yes it’s the curved track it’s slightly bowed but Hornby have told me if you pin it down the sound goes away, I tested it and does seem to work. I haven’t looked at the wheels for dirt but I had a Bachmann 20 that I’d never run and the filth on it wheels was shocking so maybe it’s something to do with the metal blackening process
I didn't get a good look from your video, but perhaps the loose part was the guard irons that fit to the front of the front bogie - Bunter's Yard had the same problem with their loco. Nothing a dab of super-glue won't fix.
I'm looking forward to this series. Will you be sticking with the Hornby track or switching to Peco? Also what is you opinion on the couplers? Could we see TT shunting layouts or will it be too fiddly and the coupling design lends itself to continuous running?
I’ll be changing to peco track if they do a converter than I may use Hornby in the fiddle yard. The couplers are great they’re not gonna detach when running and to uncouple all you need is something flat to push the hooks up and they come apart, i’m sure they could be made magnetic operated as well.
@@WesternSignalman You don't need a converter for the track, either use Hornby fishplates and tighten them onto the Peco track with pliers or get some N gauge Peco fishplates and force them on to the Hornby track, the rail height will end up the same due to the sleeper height.
@@WesternSignalman I have an N gauge layout and use PECO Code 55 flexible track throughout. Even before I received my Easterner I had decided I would use PECO track and sell the Hornby track (I will test the loco and coaches on the Hornby track first). I shall use my Bachmann DC and DCC controllers in preference to the supplied Hornby one - that'll be up for sale too.
My set arrived yesterday, the very same part was loose in the loco ice pack. I haven’t a clue where it fits! If you discover where the part goes perhaps you can reply to my comment. Thank you for the review.
@@simonfew2255 That would make sense. It was lodged in the ice pack below the front of the loco. Thank you for info and taking the time to reply. Cheers.
@@durhamranger988 Spooky! Mine arrived today and just as I lifted the ice pack, the same part fell into the box. I too have no idea where it goes, so I'm looking forward to hearing.
Every OO Hornby train set I’ve purchased has always come with 8 R609 pieces which if you look at their website is described as 45 degrees. TT seems the first set I’ve purchased which has come with the 30 degree pieces. Thanks for watching 👍
2.52 I believe we’ll that’s the measurement I’ve been using for my scratch building. There is something very charming about TT but your o gauge in the garden does look brilliant, hope your keeping well 👍
Interesting video. I'm with you on the size and the scale. Does seem to be a few quality control and design issues, which is odd given that Hornby have been making TT models for quite a while for modellers of Germany railways under their Arnold brand. I notice that the coupling is the same as the coupling they use for Arnold TT models, and it looks very similar to what Tillig use. For me, the main selling point of Hornby's TT:120 will be compatibility with other manufacturers' TT models, and Hornby have got the first bit of that right by going for 1:120 scale, not 3mm to the foot. I wonder if they all use some sort of NEM coupling pocket. Can't help but think that if Hornby wanted to do flange squeal on all its TT rolling stock they could have made it a bit more squeally. 🤣 But it does feel like the people at Hornby producing British outline TT didn't make as much effort to talk the people at Hornby making non-UK outline TT ... Look forward to seeing more of what you do with it.
Yes your right the couplings are the same as the Arnold ones. Fortunately that flange squeal is down to the track which I don’t intend to use for the layout. I agree with you about the scale i think going the same size as everyone else is the right step forward even if it does put the models a little to close to size when comparing to N gauge but it is still just that bit bigger and looks right to me.
I've got the scotman kit and note the running gear sticks quite far out. I suspect they compromise on the mallard model and remove some of the gear which was a gripe with n gauge
So apart from the Loco having a part not fitted/dropped off, a bent wheel driving rod part that spoils the appearance and over oiling on the model body the engine looked o.k. As for the coaches they were very good apart from if you want them to go round a curve smooth and not make a noise you are out of luck. The track couldn't be faulted apart from the potential issues of radius. The catalog had issues with the proof reader. All in all for the price how would you rate it out of 10?
With the TT club discount the set was a £165 for a railroad a4 and 3 MK 1s in OO your looking at about £230 so I think the set represents good value for money. I think I was unfortunate with my loco I’ve seen some on instagram that are fine. It’s a really great looking loco despite the flaws with mine. The MK 1s are very nice models and my only complaint is the noise on curves, I wonder if a constant running would eventually wear away the frame where the wheels catch. If my set contained a loco that wasn’t damaged then I’d say for the price it’s a 8 out of 10. The coaches let it down and I would have liked a crew to put on the footplate. The controller isn’t the best and makes the loco noisy so loses a mark there but it’s a starter set so I’m not too upset about it’s quality, it’s a starter it gets you going in the hobby so does it’s job. Thanks for watching 👍
I think the one on the engineering samples where 3d prints so didn’t have the hooks. I’ve since found an old kids plastic knife is the perfect uncoupling tool.
I don't think the 00 gauge market has anything to worry about from Hornbys TT market seen a few videos showing these train sets parts missing or broken bits. I did think about this scale but I will pass on it Hornby are simply not worth bothering with.
OO is certainly too big to be ever overtaken, I think N gauge market is where Hornby may be better to entice modellers. I’m sure there are OO modellers that this may appeal too. It certainly is a disappointment that the model was damaged (nothing I can’t fix but when you buy something new it should be new). But I think recent Hornby OO products have been plagued with problems, I believe the Hush Hush was a particularly bad candidate. Maybe that’s why Hornby are looking at moving production to India? Trying to find a factory that can do it better (and cheaper). Personally I’m hoping things will improve, I think for modern image modellers this scale has great potential particularly when it could offer trains like the class 700 which are just not feasible in OO.
Interesting that Hornby is eyeing India up for production what makes them think it will be better? Cheaper does not mean quality assured why not bring it back home to the UK yes I have heard about economic debate but if the end product is poor what's the point. The twist here is the Chinese have the know how and could enter the market to rival Hornby in fact on eBay an merchant is selling items in the UK perhaps they are testing the water and getting ready to enter the UK market.
I got the 15% discount so was £165, value for money really considering what you get and I sold one loco on eBay to pay for it. I’m sure that part is off the chassis just by the shear amount of oil it’s covered in 😆
Just the same as mine! I thought the valve gear on the A4 was broken when I first saw it but it runs fine. My coaches also drag. The buzzing went away on a gaugemaster controller. Would love to see another manufacturer come in other than Hornby, nevertheless I'm looking forward to future releases and really hope this succeeds, despite really preferring 3mm/1ft scale. I'd prefer to use Peco track really, or indeed flexi track but the space constraints I have which mean my OO stock remains unused for many years point and me using set track to create something like a 3ft6" x 5ft layout
So I spoke to Hornby the locos where all tested before dispatch to make sure they run, the coaches won’t scrape if the track is pinned down, I’ve tested it and it’s true. Maybe you could use flexi track on the scenic parts and use the Hornby set track for your fiddle yard
@@WesternSignalman I've got some n gauge laid out on a 2'3" board, only using 2nd radius, according to SCARM I can fit 4th Radius with 20mm gap between both sides
@@WesternSignalman I saw TT120 and was tempted, but the amount of track in N that I could fit in my restricted space, it was a no brainer, managed to pick up a poorly running (shelf queen so dried out) Rebuilt Merchant Class for £62...
This train set just got the nickname "The Scraper". It is not just your set that has this fault. I had a bit fall off one of the coaches, but the loco is okay! Enjoy video, and thanks for uploading yours! ua-cam.com/video/yJ9dX4p9F8I/v-deo.html
I’ll have a look, I don’t think it’s too bad a set and it’s early days always going to be teething troubles. I’ve been informed the squeaky coaches won’t squeak if the track is pinned down.
The curves being a few degrees off, track being different than peco track. Both deal breakers for me personally. If you buy a hornby trainset in tt, you are locked in to JUST using hornby track. And that sucks.
It doesn't lock you in. Yes, if you don't use the Hornby track and buy the PECO track it'll be more expensive, but the PECO stuff is better. You can offset the price by selling the Hornby track and controller.
I believe the reason the track is 30 degrees rather than 45 is because that’s how European TT sets are sold and Hornby are trying to stick to a standard. As Paul says I’d go with Peco track and either sell your Hornby stuff or use it in the fiddle yard I’m sure someone will do a track a converter at some point or I’m sure a little bit of engineering will allow you to join the two tacks with a smooth transition.
@@WesternSignalman You don't need a track converter, since the Peco sleepers are deeper, you can use Peco N gauge fishplates and force them onto the Hornby or you can use Hornby fishplate and crimp them onto the Peco. The rail height will end up been the same.
@@PaulSmith-pl7fo Keep the track for hidden sections and the power supply for lights etc. Bin the controller, nobody with any sense will buy it, but having said that, stick it on Ebay and some idiot will probably give you 50 quid.
My second it video, and the second video with delivery issues. I have no axe to grind with it, but come on Hornby, sort yourselves out. Missing, broken or detached parts is not good enough. I dont care what the scale is
I’ve been in contact with Hornby and have been told that the models where all inspected before dispatch so maybe this is just down to rough handling by the delivery service or maybe the ice cube tray that models come in might just need a little bit of polystyrene or something just to stop any potential movement. Hopefully this is all just early day teething troubles.
Most interesting but I see no future for TT 120 (sorry) I can see why others mine and why would my views bother them ? Hornby have a lot to prove and at this early stage gaining a poor reputation could be a killer. Thanks for posting 😎
Hornby could be flogging a dead horse, I hope not that would be a sad day for all modellers if Hornby don’t succeed. I want to see all modelling manufacturers succeed because that means our hobby is healthy and hopefully bringing more people into it, I’m very concerned that when I retire this hobby could be dead and I’m gonna end up very bored 😆 I can’t argue with you though if this is to succeed they do need to up they’re game, better quality control is key here really.
The fact that Heljan pulled the plug leaves Hornby as the only manufacturer for British outline i believe . Web only sales and bad reviews won't help their cause . Needs the other main manufacturers on board I think to give people a choice
@@shauntaylor9251 was a shame to see Heljan pull out but at the same time when it’s a new emerging market you don’t want to overcrowd on the same locos, there’s no winners there and I guess you need to work out what Hornby have planned for the future.
@@WesternSignalman Well, I'm not so sure it is a shame that Heljan have pulled out; so many of their OO models had too many faults (yes, I know they have made a few gooduns, but they are in the minority). I was attracted to N gauge because the models looked so cute, but there is truth in the opinion that failing eyesight and being rather fiddly at it's size is somewhat a deterrent. TT:120 is a happy medium.
Technically, that’s not true as his video only just came out and mines been out for about a week, sure he’s killing me in views but he does have 140k more subscribers than me 😆 But surely it’s better to have more than one review so people can make an informed decision.
All seems a bit third rate. Everything should be perfect when you acquire a set like this direct from the manufacturer. By accepting poor quality you allow Hornby to carry on with their poor pre-shipping inspection regime. Things never get better by themselves, you have to complain and send stuff back.
I emailed Simon Kholer about it, he told me all the models are tested before shipping, the part that came off the bogie seems a common issue but can be glued back on and I think the damage happens in transit, probably a packaging issue that needs looking at. I also managed to put the valve gear right so for the sake of sending back a whole train set I was happy to fix the problem, anything drastic and it would have gone back.
@@WesternSignalman You said that US N gauge is larger than UK N gauge. That doesn't make sense; check the numbers: OO = 1:76, TT (UK) = 1:120, N(UK) = 1:148, N(US) = 1:160. As the numbers get larger, the size gets smaller!
one thing ive seen in several reviews of these new tt sets from hornby is if you place all the included circle pieces they dont meet to make a perfect circle they actually wind up being about 3" to long,,, so while everyone seems otherwise impressed lets hope hornby does fix this issue since they are trying to start in this scale
Yes I saw that on Chadwick channel is a big rubbish I was considering using this track on a helix, not so sure now
Good video and appraisal of the latest offering from tt120. I have the Scotsman set and the coaches also suffer from a scraping sound much the same as yours. I think the modelling to be very good with excellent detail. Thank you and I am looking forward to seeing further reports.
That’s a shame to hear this problem isn’t just the MK 1s I hope this doesn’t spread to other coaches, it’s not that end of the world and I’m sure some modelling (heaven forbid!) will solve the problem but all the same it’s things like this that can put people off, modellers seem very fussy these days 😆 thanks for watching
@@WesternSignalman I am really disappointed to hear the scraping noise from the coaches in your video, and then to find out that this is NOT an isolated case. I have yet to set up my track and test my loco and coaches, but I suspect I will hear those noises too.
I’ve been informed by Hornby if the track is pinned down it’s doesn’t mKe that sound so I tested last night and can confirm that is the case.
Hi Jamie. What perfect timing - my Easterner arrived today. Excellent review of the trainset - I look forward to the rest of your TT:120 series. I had to look at your rather early videos to find out your name. I tried looking down at this video's comments for your name and found so many interesting issues. I'm going to go back through them and add more comments there.
I hope you enjoy your set it really is great despite the slight teething troubles 👍
Like the idea of a TT modern image layout and turning the locomotive into Sir Nigel Gresley although it is being repainted into being predominantly blue at the moment
I’ll be honest I wanted to go for black because it’s an easier repaint, no lining required 😆 thanks for watching.
I had taken the reference in the catalogue to R2 as referring to the minimum practicable radius for the loco and coaches, so I have ordered a set of R2s to go inside the R3s which came with my Scotsman set. So I just think there is a bit of loose writing rather than an error.
And my Pullman coaches go round the R3 track without any noticeable scraping. But my track IS pinned down, though so far quite minimally.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching Peter. Yes Simon Kholer posted on here to point out of you pin the track down the coaches don’t scrape.
@@WesternSignalman That's interesting to note - I hope it's true!
This video arrived just in time for my morning coffee, very enjoyable watch. Very disappointed to see the lack of quality control from Hornby, particularly the scraping noise from the coaches. Looking forward to seeing the progress of this next build.
Cheers Terry, yes the was some disappointments with the set but overall I’m happy with it and hoping these issues are just teething troubles. Thanks for watching
There are several inaccuracies and wrong assumptions made in this video and running the coaches on track which is not pinned down flat will cause the effect. Pin the track down and the issue goes away.
Thanks for the tip. I‘ve sent you an email as I didn’t want my video to come across as a Hornby bash so happy to discuss what needs clarifying.
Does he want me to pin the track to my table?
If you use copydex you can clean it off after 😆 I have tested it and if the track is held down the noise does indeed stop so that’s good to know 👍
That's the second one in a video that has shown a part that has come off.
One video shows it running on the actual set's clean track, but they then show how dirty the wheels were, after only a few times around on the track.
Watching some other videos, it looks like the wheels scrapping is on all the sets with the same size curves.
Yes it’s the curved track it’s slightly bowed but Hornby have told me if you pin it down the sound goes away, I tested it and does seem to work. I haven’t looked at the wheels for dirt but I had a Bachmann 20 that I’d never run and the filth on it wheels was shocking so maybe it’s something to do with the metal blackening process
Looks like the chime whistle on the top front is fitted upside down!
Someone else said that
I’ll have to check
I didn't get a good look from your video, but perhaps the loose part was the guard irons that fit to the front of the front bogie - Bunter's Yard had the same problem with their loco. Nothing a dab of super-glue won't fix.
I think your right I’m gonna take a proper look later 👍
I'm looking forward to this series. Will you be sticking with the Hornby track or switching to Peco? Also what is you opinion on the couplers? Could we see TT shunting layouts or will it be too fiddly and the coupling design lends itself to continuous running?
I’ll be changing to peco track if they do a converter than I may use Hornby in the fiddle yard. The couplers are great they’re not gonna detach when running and to uncouple all you need is something flat to push the hooks up and they come apart, i’m sure they could be made magnetic operated as well.
@@WesternSignalman You don't need a converter for the track, either use Hornby fishplates and tighten them onto the Peco track with pliers or get some N gauge Peco fishplates and force them on to the Hornby track, the rail height will end up the same due to the sleeper height.
Thanks for the tip
@@WesternSignalman I have an N gauge layout and use PECO Code 55 flexible track throughout. Even before I received my Easterner I had decided I would use PECO track and sell the Hornby track (I will test the loco and coaches on the Hornby track first). I shall use my Bachmann DC and DCC controllers in preference to the supplied Hornby one - that'll be up for sale too.
My set arrived yesterday, the very same part was loose in the loco ice pack. I haven’t a clue where it fits! If you discover where the part goes perhaps you can reply to my comment. Thank you for the review.
As soon as I work it out I’ll let you know
It is exactly the same dimensions as the front of the front bogey. It looks unfinished so I think it belongs there.
@@simonfew2255 That would make sense. It was lodged in the ice pack below the front of the loco. Thank you for info and taking the time to reply. Cheers.
@@durhamranger988 Spooky! Mine arrived today and just as I lifted the ice pack, the same part fell into the box. I too have no idea where it goes, so I'm looking forward to hearing.
Most people seem to think it goes on the leading bogie.
Hornby geometry has always been 15 or 30 degree sections. PECO uk uses 45 degree curved sections.
Every OO Hornby train set I’ve purchased has always come with 8 R609 pieces which if you look at their website is described as 45 degrees. TT seems the first set I’ve purchased which has come with the 30 degree pieces. Thanks for watching 👍
Ah, its not 3mm scale - its 2.52 or is it 2.54?🙃 Im tempted by this new TT, but think O gauge is the way forward for us of SAGA age 😄
2.52 I believe we’ll that’s the measurement I’ve been using for my scratch building. There is something very charming about TT but your o gauge in the garden does look brilliant, hope your keeping well 👍
Interesting video. I'm with you on the size and the scale. Does seem to be a few quality control and design issues, which is odd given that Hornby have been making TT models for quite a while for modellers of Germany railways under their Arnold brand. I notice that the coupling is the same as the coupling they use for Arnold TT models, and it looks very similar to what Tillig use. For me, the main selling point of Hornby's TT:120 will be compatibility with other manufacturers' TT models, and Hornby have got the first bit of that right by going for 1:120 scale, not 3mm to the foot. I wonder if they all use some sort of NEM coupling pocket.
Can't help but think that if Hornby wanted to do flange squeal on all its TT rolling stock they could have made it a bit more squeally. 🤣 But it does feel like the people at Hornby producing British outline TT didn't make as much effort to talk the people at Hornby making non-UK outline TT ...
Look forward to seeing more of what you do with it.
Yes your right the couplings are the same as the Arnold ones. Fortunately that flange squeal is down to the track which I don’t intend to use for the layout.
I agree with you about the scale i think going the same size as everyone else is the right step forward even if it does put the models a little to close to size when comparing to N gauge but it is still just that bit bigger and looks right to me.
I've got the scotman kit and note the running gear sticks quite far out. I suspect they compromise on the mallard model and remove some of the gear which was a gripe with n gauge
It protrudes quite noticeably on one side compared to the other but in the plus side it runs.
So apart from the Loco having a part not fitted/dropped off, a bent wheel driving rod part that spoils the appearance and over oiling on the model body the engine looked o.k. As for the coaches they were very good apart from if you want them to go round a curve smooth and not make a noise you are out of luck. The track couldn't be faulted apart from the potential issues of radius. The catalog had issues with the proof reader. All in all for the price how would you rate it out of 10?
With the TT club discount the set was a £165 for a railroad a4 and 3 MK 1s in OO your looking at about £230 so I think the set represents good value for money. I think I was unfortunate with my loco I’ve seen some on instagram that are fine. It’s a really great looking loco despite the flaws with mine.
The MK 1s are very nice models and my only complaint is the noise on curves, I wonder if a constant running would eventually wear away the frame where the wheels catch.
If my set contained a loco that wasn’t damaged then I’d say for the price it’s a 8 out of 10. The coaches let it down and I would have liked a crew to put on the footplate. The controller isn’t the best and makes the loco noisy so loses a mark there but it’s a starter set so I’m not too upset about it’s quality, it’s a starter it gets you going in the hobby so does it’s job. Thanks for watching 👍
The couplings are the same as Tillig of Germany use on there TT 120 models
I think the one on the engineering samples where 3d prints so didn’t have the hooks. I’ve since found an old kids plastic knife is the perfect uncoupling tool.
Comes the Set with accesories Parts? It looks like there is a hole on the Front of the Locomotives were a Steam Pipe should be placed.
Yes there is an accessory bag
@@WesternSignalman Ooh, I have discovered mine yet!
Why did hornby not do a diesel offering as well.when they released tt120.
I don’t know seems a bit odd to focus on two LNER steam engines as I think TT is going to be more appealing to those who model modern image
I don't think the 00 gauge market has anything to worry about from Hornbys TT market seen a few videos showing these train sets parts missing or broken bits. I did think about this scale but I will pass on it Hornby are simply not worth bothering with.
OO is certainly too big to be ever overtaken, I think N gauge market is where Hornby may be better to entice modellers. I’m sure there are OO modellers that this may appeal too. It certainly is a disappointment that the model was damaged (nothing I can’t fix but when you buy something new it should be new). But I think recent Hornby OO products have been plagued with problems, I believe the Hush Hush was a particularly bad candidate. Maybe that’s why Hornby are looking at moving production to India? Trying to find a factory that can do it better (and cheaper). Personally I’m hoping things will improve, I think for modern image modellers this scale has great potential particularly when it could offer trains like the class 700 which are just not feasible in OO.
Interesting that Hornby is eyeing India up for production what makes them think it will be better? Cheaper does not mean quality assured why not bring it back home to the UK yes I have heard about economic debate but if the end product is poor what's the point. The twist here is the Chinese have the know how and could enter the market to rival Hornby in fact on eBay an merchant is selling items in the UK perhaps they are testing the water and getting ready to enter the UK market.
Is the loose piece a loco headboard by chance? (Edit - just looked at the prices- Yeek!)
I got the 15% discount so was £165, value for money really considering what you get and I sold one loco on eBay to pay for it. I’m sure that part is off the chassis just by the shear amount of oil it’s covered in 😆
Does that noise occur when the bogies run over the curve fishplates?
The noise is when the curves are not fixed down the are slightly bowed in shape for whatever reason but once flat the sound stops.
I received my set and the exact same piece was loose in the box! I cannot for the life of me see where it may be from. Anyone know?
It is exactly the same dimensions as the front of the front bogey. It looks unfinished so I think it belongs there.
Yeah I think it’s snapped off the bogie as it looks like two lugs are broken off
Just the same as mine! I thought the valve gear on the A4 was broken when I first saw it but it runs fine. My coaches also drag. The buzzing went away on a gaugemaster controller.
Would love to see another manufacturer come in other than Hornby, nevertheless I'm looking forward to future releases and really hope this succeeds, despite really preferring 3mm/1ft scale.
I'd prefer to use Peco track really, or indeed flexi track but the space constraints I have which mean my OO stock remains unused for many years point and me using set track to create something like a 3ft6" x 5ft layout
So I spoke to Hornby the locos where all tested before dispatch to make sure they run, the coaches won’t scrape if the track is pinned down, I’ve tested it and it’s true. Maybe you could use flexi track on the scenic parts and use the Hornby set track for your fiddle yard
Truing TT Rebooted?
I think that’s the idea, I’m hoping it goes well
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Thanks for watching 👍
N gauge can just about fit radius 3 within 2ft... but it's on the edge of the space
I think that’s what I was thinking of I temper trying to design a plan into a 2ft wide bored and finding the track was dangerously close to the edge.
@@WesternSignalman I've got some n gauge laid out on a 2'3" board, only using 2nd radius, according to SCARM I can fit 4th Radius with 20mm gap between both sides
I can confirm that as I did build a layout of that width with 4th radius track 👍
@@WesternSignalman I saw TT120 and was tempted, but the amount of track in N that I could fit in my restricted space, it was a no brainer, managed to pick up a poorly running (shelf queen so dried out) Rebuilt Merchant Class for £62...
That sounds like a bargain, and N will always be king when it comes to restricted space 👍
Don’t like the sound of the coaches scraping at all. I don’t remember anyone commenting on the Pullmans doing that
Hornby have told me if the track is pinned flat that noise doesn’t happen. I tested and seemed to work
@@WesternSignalman tha makes sense as another UA-cam reviewer with pinned track didn’t have this issue even with 2nd radius curves
This train set just got the nickname "The Scraper". It is not just your set that has this fault. I had a bit fall off one of the coaches, but the loco is okay! Enjoy video, and thanks for uploading yours! ua-cam.com/video/yJ9dX4p9F8I/v-deo.html
I’ll have a look, I don’t think it’s too bad a set and it’s early days always going to be teething troubles. I’ve been informed the squeaky coaches won’t squeak if the track is pinned down.
The curves being a few degrees off, track being different than peco track.
Both deal breakers for me personally. If you buy a hornby trainset in tt, you are locked in to JUST using hornby track. And that sucks.
It doesn't lock you in. Yes, if you don't use the Hornby track and buy the PECO track it'll be more expensive, but the PECO stuff is better. You can offset the price by selling the Hornby track and controller.
I believe the reason the track is 30 degrees rather than 45 is because that’s how European TT sets are sold and Hornby are trying to stick to a standard.
As Paul says I’d go with Peco track and either sell your Hornby stuff or use it in the fiddle yard I’m sure someone will do a track a converter at some point or I’m sure a little bit of engineering will allow you to join the two tacks with a smooth transition.
@@WesternSignalman You don't need a track converter, since the Peco sleepers are deeper, you can use Peco N gauge fishplates and force them onto the Hornby or you can use Hornby fishplate and crimp them onto the Peco. The rail height will end up been the same.
@@PaulSmith-pl7fo Keep the track for hidden sections and the power supply for lights etc. Bin the controller, nobody with any sense will buy it, but having said that, stick it on Ebay and some idiot will probably give you 50 quid.
My second it video, and the second video with delivery issues. I have no axe to grind with it, but come on Hornby, sort yourselves out. Missing, broken or detached parts is not good enough. I dont care what the scale is
I’ve been in contact with Hornby and have been told that the models where all inspected before dispatch so maybe this is just down to rough handling by the delivery service or maybe the ice cube tray that models come in might just need a little bit of polystyrene or something just to stop any potential movement. Hopefully this is all just early day teething troubles.
Most interesting but I see no future for TT 120 (sorry) I can see why others mine and why would my views bother them ? Hornby have a lot to prove and at this early stage gaining a poor reputation could be a killer. Thanks for posting 😎
Hornby could be flogging a dead horse, I hope not that would be a sad day for all modellers if Hornby don’t succeed. I want to see all modelling manufacturers succeed because that means our hobby is healthy and hopefully bringing more people into it, I’m very concerned that when I retire this hobby could be dead and I’m gonna end up very bored 😆 I can’t argue with you though if this is to succeed they do need to up they’re game, better quality control is key here really.
The fact that Heljan pulled the plug leaves Hornby as the only manufacturer for British outline i believe . Web only sales and bad reviews won't help their cause . Needs the other main manufacturers on board I think to give people a choice
@@shauntaylor9251 was a shame to see Heljan pull out but at the same time when it’s a new emerging market you don’t want to overcrowd on the same locos, there’s no winners there and I guess you need to work out what Hornby have planned for the future.
@@WesternSignalman Well, I'm not so sure it is a shame that Heljan have pulled out; so many of their OO models had too many faults (yes, I know they have made a few gooduns, but they are in the minority). I was attracted to N gauge because the models looked so cute, but there is truth in the opinion that failing eyesight and being rather fiddly at it's size is somewhat a deterrent. TT:120 is a happy medium.
seems strange that every one thats bought this kit there seems to be 2 or more faults well done hornby
There’s nothing catastrophic but is annoying
Too late Sams train already reviewed it
Technically, that’s not true as his video only just came out and mines been out for about a week, sure he’s killing me in views but he does have 140k more subscribers than me 😆
But surely it’s better to have more than one review so people can make an informed decision.
@@WesternSignalman SAMS TRAINS IS THE BIG BOSS ADMIT IT
He seems a nice guy my 4 year old likes his videos
@@WesternSignalman if you want to get famous you should immediately begin streaming Hogwarts legacy
All seems a bit third rate. Everything should be perfect when you acquire a set like this direct from the manufacturer. By accepting poor quality you allow Hornby to carry on with their poor pre-shipping inspection regime. Things never get better by themselves, you have to complain and send stuff back.
I emailed Simon Kholer about it, he told me all the models are tested before shipping, the part that came off the bogie seems a common issue but can be glued back on and I think the damage happens in transit, probably a packaging issue that needs looking at. I also managed to put the valve gear right so for the sake of sending back a whole train set I was happy to fix the problem, anything drastic and it would have gone back.
Im frum America an am woundering is tt the same as n scale here??
No this TT is the same as the TT scale you have over there it’s 1:120 scale
N scale here in America is 1:160
Thanks I could remember I think UK N is 1:148
Sorry couldn’t remember
@@WesternSignalman You said that US N gauge is larger than UK N gauge. That doesn't make sense; check the numbers: OO = 1:76, TT (UK) = 1:120, N(UK) = 1:148, N(US) = 1:160. As the numbers get larger, the size gets smaller!
Have you found where that piece goes yet? Also the chime whistle is upside-down🤔
Not had a chance to look yet been at work
After watching several reviews etc. I believe that piece of plastic is the cab footplate.
I’ve still not checked been too busy
The buzzing from the loco will go with a decent controller, bin the supplied one and use a Gaugemaster or HM2000
When I run the loco at the end of the video I set it up with my gauge master controller and that certainly did improve things 👍
@@WesternSignalman If you cant find where that piece goes, put pictures on the Hornby TT:120 forum, someone will be able to help.
@@davidwatts1871 good shout I was just gonna stick a photo on Instagram