For anyone wanting an update. I always report these listings, and submit all the evidence covered in the video. The listing has been taken down and eBay is currently investigating removing the seller. All around another scam taken down, however ill be keeping my eyes out for what else showes up.
Currently there is this "Ryzen 7 3700x" going for $49 dollars.. Would love to see an investigation of this. www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-RYZEN-7-3700X-8-Core-3-6-GHz-4-4-GHz-Max-Boost-Socket-AM4-65W-100-10000007/233595571861?hash=item3663618e95%3Ag%3A7asAAOSw42Fex23C&LH_BIN=1
With beamNG you should start spawning AI cars on a long straight road to stress the CPU until it breaks and Mark down how many you can spawn in. Sort of like this guy did ua-cam.com/video/rxVWG5Bao-k/v-deo.html
If you're careful CPU reads in the bottom left corner: "2016 AMD" I knew imediatly something was wrong since: "AMD officially announced the FIRST 14nm Ryzen 1*** products during its New Horizon summit on December 13, 2016 and introduced them the following February with the first processors being 8-core, 16 thread CPUs released in March 2 2017 to public market availability. " If it was 2017 it could of been Ryzen first gen but...
You can have CPU released in 1 year, but dated previously (eg. My Pentium 540J, mine was manufactured 2003, and released 2004). Year isn't always reliable when it comes to finding scams.
First-gen Ryzen chips do have the mention "2016 AMD" on the heat spreader. Since it's a copyright date for the design, it indicates when the design was finalized, ie 2016 for first-gen Ryzen, 2017 for second-gen and 2019 for third-gen. The position of the copyright on the actual ship is definitely a dead giveaway that that it's a Bristol Ridge chip of some sort.
@@NightMotorcyclist and u only get important parts from china. if eBay banned china a lot of repair shops/people are going in trouble. instead of a ban on china, eBay should ban scammers!
@@ArtisChronicles oh yeah no idea why they did that, and the post man was just hammering it thru the mailbox( he put it the way the cpu didnt really fit, but it worked fine so it sure is one though cpu I gotta say).
Ebay is good about fixing these kinds of scams. Got a rusty hd7750 instead of the r9 280x I ordered for my HTPC, Ebay refunded me though. Gotta watch out for deals like these, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
i use this thing.... i built my pc in 2017 and the 2200g wasn't out yet. it's rather usable, but the lack of L3 and the fact i use HHD drives it's just sluggish. my mom just says 'then why did you get it?" my mom also calls a switch lite a 3ds....
Honestly have a crazy amount of parts and projects to finish. I have filmed an ipod Classic Repair and Restoration which may become a video if i edit it down.
Yes, parts are drying up, especially new parts. People are hording and scalping them and it's getting harder to get new. Older parts you can still find pretty easy.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial in this moments of quarantine (i've been on my house since 3 weeks i think xd) youre one of my few favorite youtube channels, we well be waiting patiently for the videos
The Athlon X4 950, which my friends and I referred to as the Cursed Athlon. I got one for my first PC build, and since then it was passed down to my friend and then my cousin as they built their computers. Overclocking the one we used actually made it run even worse, although 35 Euros is a pretty standard price for that damned thing.
I tried to scan the matrix code on the CPU before you loaded it into the computer, but they damaged that beyond the recognition of my reader. I'm expecting an Athlon. -Edit: Yay I was right!
Indeed, you can also use a marker to try and fill in the markings of the code. It looks like there is enough of it there to fill in the groves that make up the code etching. You just mark and wipe.
@sw4gr1d The architecture is basically internally Bottlenecking at the shared Numeric processors. 4 cores, 2 numeric cores and badly shared cache. Even it out and it feels better. Try a benchmark and a game. Restart and go into the bios and disable either 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. Try the game and benchmark again.
Man, I used to run an X4 860K from 2015-2019 and I watched it age... ungracefully at that. The texture pop-ins got really bad with GTA5 as the game got more complex with updates. These processors had bad frametimes, too and I saw that in your benchmarks as well. Great fun video!
I had a a4-7300 from a "gaming" prebuilt. The performance with loading was unbearable. The more you played the worse. Everything popped and dissapeared. And sometimes the buildings would be in low poly mode. I couldn't enter them. I have left that pc away just working for f@h and other stuff.
I did find it strange when they came out with AM4 that they made certain FM2 chips available for it, including certain very old budget choices. I get it, they needed a bottom of the market and tehy needed more chips out NOW. But, at what cost?
@@zetsubou3704 That's cool, Window 8.1 is pretty feature completed, and still got plenty security support, you should be good for couple of year if your computer doesn't give you cancer or brain aneurysm first.
Well, just sanding the IHS down and sell it as a Ryzen would be less effort than actually marketing the processor as-is, it seems. Maximum profit for them, too. As always, a great video to watch specially on these times of quarantine.
Thank you for keeping your content coming =,= Im happy to see you doing another processor video after a while and it's crazy to see that level 3 cache is really noticeable. and I like the new benchmarking games your using!!
Hello Budget Builds! Can you say a few words about my AMD Phenom II X4 925 processor? Once I got a whole PC case with motherboard, heatsink, fan and this bad boy for as little as $6 !!! I am very happy with it, although for some strange reason I have an unstable framerate in fortnite, but it runs flawlessly on csgo, with about 120 fps even with highest presets, paired with an rx 460 and 8 gigs of ddr3 ram. Also, I really do enjoy your channel! Just keep going! :D
Hey that Phenom of yours is an old gem of a processor before amd launched the fx lineup I wish the Phenoms had some more instruction sets in built in dem as lack of certain certain instruction sets like sse4.1 renders it useless for certain modern games. Try to lock your frame rate to 60fps and use Pro settings for a consistent experience in fortnite also try overclocking that cpu I hope you've done that .
@@elstondias9172 not true about sse4.1 you can get it to run any modern game with intels instruction emulator you can grab from their website. Things like assasins creed and ROTR become playable vs not so playable
@@KadiusFTW yes true I my self have tested the same games like WWE 2k19 and far cry 5 but it runs like crap very choppy you need a dedicated cpu for that purpose. My sister's laptop has a piledriver apu though it's horrible in compute it runs those games without the need of an emulator as it has those instructions but again as it's a shitty cpu the outcome is the same choppy mess.
For eg if I had a fx 4100/4300 with me the above two games would have run fine . Lack of instructions is killing the Phenom lineup. Otherwise just imagine if we're to have the instructions like its fx siblings they would be a great budget option in 2020 specially the 6 core x6 variant .
I have excavator AMD FX-8350 It is total disaster. My AMD Phenom II X6 1100T is faster then this. There are exactly reasons, why it is in my system. 1. I need AES to be able to use LUKS at NVME speeds. 2. It actually have slightly bigger Level 3 cache, which improves multitasking performance (I could easily utilise 24 cores - I have tried). I am considering switching to HP DL385 G7 with 2 AMD Opteron 6174 and 64GB or 128GB or 192GB RAM. I just need to make few modifications (solder SFF-8087 socket for additional 4 SATA ports, modify Fan profile etc)
Try intels instruction set emulator with the 1100t, it adds all the current intel cpu instructons and some yet to be added ones used for game and software development with very little overhead. I have a friend who uses it for his 1035T
It's 5am, I can't sleep and there's a new video yay. Edit: The problem is that it looks like it's a great CPU for older games/emulation but it's an AM4 socket so you need a current AM4 MB and DDR4 ram when a used AM2+ and DD3 combo will do just fine.
The GTA 5 footage really hit close to home, I somehow ran the game with the highest settings on my Pentium. EDIT: My friend has an Athlon X4 860K, he OC'd it to 4GHZ.
I used to have an amd Athlon x4 845 which runs a bit better than the 860k on paper it was ok for gaming and I could edit videos with some patience, it could also do 10,000 kbps x264 ultrafast no problem on OBS so It wasn't that bad but a ryzen 3 would prob do better
me sitting here in quarantine using the processor from the video which i bought brand new for like 50euros..... back when i bought it we didn't have ryzen 3
honestly, I am also amazed that the CPU even posted, I was expecting it to not even fit in the socket, let alone game. Also, I have a quick question for you. noticing that you run at least seven drives, do you know a cheap case that I can get new, or used readily available that can fit at least six drives? me and a friend want to do an affordable server project and there are almost no cases that can fit our needs that don't cost an arm and a leg. I'm in the US, any input would be much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
I think you can get some old corsair cases used that have a lot of HDD Space in them, Amazon Warehouse has a good few used ones on there form time to time
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial I mean watching the entire video I can see a few variations but I am using a i5 7500 which don't get me wrong is better in many tasks compared to this but it is still the same 4 core 4 thread 3.8 GHz chipset that this scam one is
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial yeah true if you look at it that way, i guess i just expect more performance from it, and for the price too, you can't beat a Gen 2 Ryzen's on price against Intel's offerings
Mate how are you meant to benchmark it with such a bottleneck, you shouldve used a Palit 8400 GS 256mb DDR2 so that you can really extract all performance from such a cpu
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i used to have a computer that had: an amd athlon x2 64 5000+ 2gb of ddr2 a nvidia geforce gt 8600 and then i built my own computer that had: an intel core i3 6300 16gb of ddr4 an amd rx560 4gb vram (the one with 896 shader count) the difference was like night and day i might upgrade to a 6th gen i5 later this year
@@riky48 the way the print looks. Ryzens have the QR code in the bottom left corner, right side up, however this cpu has the qr code in the middle flipped on its side, I know my old Athlon had it and all the bulldozer cpus had it.
Online sellers (not every) always try to send faulty product 1 of 100 costumers and they know that every customer (victim) will not return product and whenever he/she (victim) will return product they(seller) either refuse it or replace by another faulty product. And mostly customer don't have more time to return it again and again.
You should download the pikes peak map from the beamng repository. Its a huge map which stresses the cpu a lot but also takes like 10 minutes to load (doesn’t load for me anymore since a recent update of the game because i don’t have 16gb ram and the game crashes)
Nice video! Good you benchmarking with BeamNg.Drive. I wonder if that processor has anything going for it. It is a good processor, just isnt good enougth at gaming, or anything else actually. It is kinda just there, waiting for someone to buy it hoping its a Ryzen 7.
If they could transform an old CPU into this, it means that the socket is not an issue if AMD would really want to keep the AM4 socket on future generations.
i know this is an older video, but my issue with the am4 versions of the fm2/+ variants is that they actually reduced the cache in the newer variants, rather than increasing it. seriously tho a c2d has more l2 cache
The Bulldozer-based AM4 Athlons really are useless, especially at this point. I mean, the FM2 Athlons aren't exactly powerhouses either, but at least you can run Windows 7 (or even XP on some) on them and use them as retro gaming machines.
That’s the one problem with AM4 - you can put dreadful dozer uArch derived CPU’s in the socket. They were bad at the “high-end” in pre-AM4 days, and they were truly terrible at the low-end. The only good thing about the AM4 Dozer variants is, if you were unlucky enough to get one of these dreadful lumps of sand in a new computer, you could rip it out of its socket, throw it in the garbage, and put something far better in its place.
I had an athlon x4 880k (i still have it, but it's in his box now :p ). I had to overclock it to 4.9Ghz (on an a68 asrock motherboard 😅) to have a pleasant experience on csgo, and PUBG ran at like 50-60 fps, so not that bad Edit : and like budget build's friend, i upgraded on a lga 1155, but ivy bridge (xeon e3 1230v2)
You can still game on the old Athlons if you're willing to be realistic. I'm still running an Athlon X4 870K, which is Godavari and using DDR3, one generation older than your Bristol Ridge. Of course, it can also hit 4.5 GHz if I need it to, and runs on 2133 RAM. It performs in about the same ballpark as your "fake Ryzen." Most of the Bristol Ridge parts were just sold as placeholders for early adopters of AM4, and were quickly replaced with Ryzen when the owners could get it. AMD would have done better to just sell them as FM2+ parts with DDR3, like they did with Kaveri and Godavari.
From what I gathered, this cpu scores just a touch below 300 points in Cinebench R15, while my old Athlon II x4 651 (built on an ancient K10 architecture and a huge 32 nm node) scores ~330 (I don't have cinebench r20 results). Now that's pathetic if you ask me.
All things considered it was surprisingly decent for what's essentially a FX 4300 with no L3 cache, but you know it's terrible when even an Athlon 200GE, the weakest Zen CPU available, fared a lot better despite being a dual core. CPUs like that don't make sense anymore, you either get an APU if you're broke and can't afford a GPU at the moment, or buy a 1600 AF and a 570 or better, it makes a lot more sense that buying obsolete tech from 2014.
My A8-5600k which uses the older piledriver architecture with twice the L2 ,but less L1 and a slightly higher clockspeed and it has none of the problems mentioned in the video, general usage is fine and GTA V doesn't have the popin issue last I checked (which was like 2 years ago but still). Note however that I use windows 7 on that computer because I don't care about the security risk or anything right now, it's just a secondary gaming box for LANs and the like, so I'm happy as long as it manages fine in lighter games, and it does.
Something is seriously wrong with that CPU or your setup, I had an A8 5600K with 8GB RAM 1866 and 120GB SSD. I don't ever remember seeing windows 10 running at 100% when starting, paired with an HD 7970 and that CPU could play GTA V smoothly without any texture issues in the video. I suspect the lack of chipset driver causing the problem, perhaps you could try installing chipset driver on AMD website to see if it help.
I wonder how it'd go with a bit of an overclock. That lack of clock speed and the L3 cache makes this seem REALLY slow in comparison to my old FX-4170 back in the day, I mean, that wasn't quick, but this seems ridiculously slow even compared to my retro PCs Q9550 on Win10 which gets around the same scores as the FX did.
I had an A12-9800 before the Ryzen APUs came out and that wasn't much better despite the increased clock speed and TDP because the iGPU stole all the power budget.
I ran this cpu daily for more than an year(paired with a X370 MSI board and an RX 560 4GB) before upgrading to a ryzen 2200g, i had it clocked at 4.0 most of the times, sometimes at 4.1-4.2 but these clocks we're causing stability issues(maybe because idk how to OC well enough, or cooling or maybe just bad luck at the already poor lottery). All in all it was decent from what i needed as i don't run any AAA titles, i was fine with locked 60 on cs go at ultra and warframe at high settings. The difference between this and the new ryzen i have rn is enormous tho also upgraded to an RX590.
Imagine having to power a virtual world to remote control a real car on this cpu. Textures and avatars take a very long time to load, but you're yelled orders to go go go.
BeamNG is quite the torture test for graphics cards especially. I got an FX-8530/Radeon 7950 system for free in 2017 and even then, BeamNG wasn't that great, and I watched it age for two years. My Ryzen 7 3700X and RX 5700 eat BeamNG for breakfast.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial yeah , at least an ivy Bridge i5 3570k (4 cores , 4 threads) and 8 to 16 Gigs of DDR3@1333 of ram , just to be secure , or , if he want buy new, i suggest a Ryzen 3 3200g ( or the new Ryzen 5 AF), with 8 (16 is the sweet-spot)Gigs of DDR4@3200 , an B450 Mobo (MSI B450 Tomahawk) and an Rx 580(new) or a GTX 1660 paired with an SSD (120Gb) for the OS and a 1Tb HDD for the rest ........it's minimum to get 60FPS@1080p on most of AAA titles (for now at least)
No just don't as much as i love Core 2 quad just dont buy Ivy brigde/Sandy Brigde/Haswell are much better or just buy R5 1600Af for 85$ and then upgrade it in 2-3 years it will be much better than an i5s or core 2 quad. Core 2 Quad is on 65nm/45nm wich are bad compared to any modern litography and 99% of lga 775 mobos use ddr2 wich is another bottleneck also sata 1 and usb2. Just buy some 2nd/3rd/4th gen i5 or r5 1600af. You can build a system for 600-700$ wich will play everything on medium-high settings without bottlencks.
Hey man, that's not cool calling that thing useless. I was cooking with an X4 845 just a few years ago, and then an FX 8350, and now a Ryzen 5 2600. How dare you!!!
lack of cache means so much, I had an intel i5 7400 up till recently, and it could run games so much better despite literally being 4 core 4 thread at 3.3 ghz at best
Can you do a feature on the older Sandy Bridge CPU's? I have the impression that the older generation i5's and i7's which you can pick up for cheap have aged surprisingly well. Even on my 8-year-old i7, the main bottleneck on gaming is my GPU.
Why they saddled those cpu's with only 1mb L2 per module is baffling. The sad thing is those bulldozer cores actually had a lot of other architectural tweeks which made them slightly faster than previous generation bulldozers with 2mb/module, in spite of the smaller L2. Which is quite a feat. It really does suck they did that. I guess they wanted it to make ryzen look as good as possible given these came out pretty much right on top of it.
For anyone wanting an update. I always report these listings, and submit all the evidence covered in the video. The listing has been taken down and eBay is currently investigating removing the seller. All around another scam taken down, however ill be keeping my eyes out for what else showes up.
Shit channel techwen better
@@ethanrattle4848 what
good riddance, its bad enough with these fake Gpu's...
Currently there is this "Ryzen 7 3700x" going for $49 dollars.. Would love to see an investigation of this.
www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-RYZEN-7-3700X-8-Core-3-6-GHz-4-4-GHz-Max-Boost-Socket-AM4-65W-100-10000007/233595571861?hash=item3663618e95%3Ag%3A7asAAOSw42Fex23C&LH_BIN=1
www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-ryzen-9-3900x-new-and-with-invoice/324214602555
Probably another scam. Super cheap from China
Pros
Its am4
Cons
Its exists
another pro is that it arrived to your house.
With beamNG you should start spawning AI cars on a long straight road to stress the CPU until it breaks and Mark down how many you can spawn in. Sort of like this guy did ua-cam.com/video/rxVWG5Bao-k/v-deo.html
That could be a great benchmarks. How many Vauxhall Astra's crash a CPU in BeamNG. APC of a CPU. Astra's Per Crash
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial the BB APC benchmark, do it!
@B3ro1080 Ye, it's sold as Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Chevrolet, etc...
Chevrolet astra in Brasil, sold a lot here. I loved
Wow, the Astra is sold under MORE brands than just Opel an Vauxhaul?
I am amazed. General Motors has absolutely no creativity XD
If you're careful CPU reads in the bottom left corner:
"2016 AMD"
I knew imediatly something was wrong since:
"AMD officially announced the FIRST 14nm Ryzen 1*** products during its New Horizon summit on December 13, 2016 and introduced them the following February with the first processors being 8-core, 16 thread CPUs released in March 2 2017 to public market availability. "
If it was 2017 it could of been Ryzen first gen but...
The new CPUs are not diffused in Germany, only older processors, that was one of the things that made me suspicious.
You can have CPU released in 1 year, but dated previously (eg. My Pentium 540J, mine was manufactured 2003, and released 2004). Year isn't always reliable when it comes to finding scams.
First-gen Ryzen chips do have the mention "2016 AMD" on the heat spreader. Since it's a copyright date for the design, it indicates when the design was finalized, ie 2016 for first-gen Ryzen, 2017 for second-gen and 2019 for third-gen.
The position of the copyright on the actual ship is definitely a dead giveaway that that it's a Bristol Ridge chip of some sort.
They could have at least given you an athlon 200ge, would actually fit the socket and could still make a buck
@@CommanderMouse72 They did sell him an AM4 CPU. The Bristol Ridge chips still work on modern boards.
"Genuine" and it's on eBay by China seller, also with that price. Yeah it's legit xd
@@NightMotorcyclist and u only get important parts from china. if eBay banned china a lot of repair shops/people are going in trouble. instead of a ban on china, eBay should ban scammers!
@@Amanullah-dx5uy Scammers are already banned.
@@NightMotorcyclist almost all of electronic parts u guys have there are from china
Im actually surprised that aliexpress has more legit products on it than ebay
@@NightMotorcyclist they are probably getting paid handsomely behind the scenes by the chinese, so it's not gonna happen
The way that "processor" was packed gave me so much anxiety...
@Jay Arre idk if you get what hes saying you dont wrap a processor like that without breaking the pins lol
@@mouricecheeks5215 lol if you thinks that's bad, I got a phenom 2 X4 955BE from CEX and it just came in a paper bag. Like that was all the packaging.
@@tilburg8683 that's actually much worse... I wouldn't have even attempted that.
@@ArtisChronicles oh yeah no idea why they did that, and the post man was just hammering it thru the mailbox( he put it the way the cpu didnt really fit, but it worked fine so it sure is one though cpu I gotta say).
It would have been ok if they used some non-conductive foam to protect the pins
Ebay is good about fixing these kinds of scams. Got a rusty hd7750 instead of the r9 280x I ordered for my HTPC, Ebay refunded me though.
Gotta watch out for deals like these, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
You may need to reflash the vBIOS on it.
Yup i always shop ebay for free stuff. I know they are fake and im buying them only to get them refunded again and again.
@Brutal Berserker bro ill take it my rx560 killed itself
@@praystation Can you give me advices how should I start doing it??
This channel is weirdly the most wholesome thing out there...I’ve been watching you for years now and man you never let me down with ur content.
i use this thing.... i built my pc in 2017 and the 2200g wasn't out yet. it's rather usable, but the lack of L3 and the fact i use HHD drives it's just sluggish. my mom just says 'then why did you get it?" my mom also calls a switch lite a 3ds....
i also bought this in 2017 and works if you also want to update any am4 Mobo so you can use newer ryzens on older mobo
I’m really curious if you’re struggling to find parts due to the current events unfolding.
Honestly have a crazy amount of parts and projects to finish. I have filmed an ipod Classic Repair and Restoration which may become a video if i edit it down.
i can't find as many parts on ebay but amazon seems fine.
Yes, parts are drying up, especially new parts. People are hording and scalping them and it's getting harder to get new. Older parts you can still find pretty easy.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial in this moments of quarantine (i've been on my house since 3 weeks i think xd) youre one of my few favorite youtube channels, we well be waiting patiently for the videos
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Looking forward to the ipod video. I'm restoring one myself.
The Athlon X4 950, which my friends and I referred to as the Cursed Athlon. I got one for my first PC build, and since then it was passed down to my friend and then my cousin as they built their computers. Overclocking the one we used actually made it run even worse, although 35 Euros is a pretty standard price for that damned thing.
u could get a 760k for 10 times cheaper from china
I tried to scan the matrix code on the CPU before you loaded it into the computer, but they damaged that beyond the recognition of my reader.
I'm expecting an Athlon.
-Edit: Yay I was right!
Indeed, you can also use a marker to try and fill in the markings of the code. It looks like there is enough of it there to fill in the groves that make up the code etching. You just mark and wipe.
The fact that this cpu runs better than my "main" laptop is scary
You can't really compare laptop CPU to desktop CPU, that's why
Yeah, laptops have less room for cooling and have to be more compact so they run worse than desktop cpus
well, of course it's going to run better, man's pairing the cpu with 32 gigs of ram and most likely a gpu better than a 1050, what do you expect?
@@farrelwaso5044 their are 64core threadripper laptops with dual rtx 3090
@@Yggdrasill8 like hell there are. There are no laptop class RTX 3090s and the thread ripper spec for laptops is still a Ryzen 9
4:15 not even humans are holding up against 2020, idk what you expect!
My FX-4300: "(laughs) So am I better than anyone?"
Better then FX4100 :)
@@flock9615 facts lol
Better than celeron D
Disable cores 2 and 4. It should run quite well then.
@sw4gr1d The architecture is basically internally Bottlenecking at the shared Numeric processors. 4 cores, 2 numeric cores and badly shared cache. Even it out and it feels better. Try a benchmark and a game. Restart and go into the bios and disable either 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. Try the game and benchmark again.
Man, I used to run an X4 860K from 2015-2019 and I watched it age... ungracefully at that. The texture pop-ins got really bad with GTA5 as the game got more complex with updates. These processors had bad frametimes, too and I saw that in your benchmarks as well. Great fun video!
I had a a4-7300 from a "gaming" prebuilt. The performance with loading was unbearable. The more you played the worse. Everything popped and dissapeared. And sometimes the buildings would be in low poly mode. I couldn't enter them. I have left that pc away just working for f@h and other stuff.
There's something wrong with your setup. I have X4 845 and X4 870K and they don't cause stuff to pop-in.
Still giddily spelunking in Deep Rock Galactic with my 860K. It may be gawdawful slow, but it's not the worst thing to be stuck with for sure.
@@MJ-uk6lu i used to runa 760k in the fm2+ socket, disabling superfetch (sysmain) and windows search services really helped out.
I didn't see that happen even with my FX-4300.
I did find it strange when they came out with AM4 that they made certain FM2 chips available for it, including certain very old budget choices. I get it, they needed a bottom of the market and tehy needed more chips out NOW. But, at what cost?
Nice Video! I saw your post and i waited 5 hours for this! Payed off
I waited 4 years
Kept on refreshing to see if it had been 5hrs after the post xD
My Sempron 2650 still cries in a corner tho.
you have a single core CPU in 2020? blasphemy!
Can it run Window 10?
@@Vesper8088 Well its a dual core although slower than a Core2Duo
@@Verpal It can barely run Windows 8.1 with occasional stutters
@@zetsubou3704 That's cool, Window 8.1 is pretty feature completed, and still got plenty security support, you should be good for couple of year if your computer doesn't give you cancer or brain aneurysm first.
Well, just sanding the IHS down and sell it as a Ryzen would be less effort than actually marketing the processor as-is, it seems. Maximum profit for them, too.
As always, a great video to watch specially on these times of quarantine.
Not even worth their time propably
china sellers be like that
Thank you for keeping your content coming =,= Im happy to see you doing another processor video after a while and it's crazy to see that level 3 cache is really noticeable. and I like the new benchmarking games your using!!
Before anybody asks about the music, Window Washer's Dream from the SimCity 3000 OST
Hello Budget Builds!
Can you say a few words about my AMD Phenom II X4 925 processor? Once I got a whole PC case with motherboard, heatsink, fan and this bad boy for as little as $6 !!! I am very happy with it, although for some strange reason I have an unstable framerate in fortnite, but it runs flawlessly on csgo, with about 120 fps even with highest presets, paired with an rx 460 and 8 gigs of ddr3 ram.
Also, I really do enjoy your channel! Just keep going! :D
Hey that Phenom of yours is an old gem of a processor before amd launched the fx lineup I wish the Phenoms had some more instruction sets in built in dem as lack of certain certain instruction sets like sse4.1 renders it useless for certain modern games.
Try to lock your frame rate to 60fps and use Pro settings for a consistent experience in fortnite also try overclocking that cpu I hope you've done that .
@@elstondias9172 not true about sse4.1 you can get it to run any modern game with intels instruction emulator you can grab from their website. Things like assasins creed and ROTR become playable vs not so playable
@@KadiusFTW yes true I my self have tested the same games like WWE 2k19 and far cry 5 but it runs like crap very choppy you need a dedicated cpu for that purpose.
My sister's laptop has a piledriver apu though it's horrible in compute it runs those games without the need of an emulator as it has those instructions but again as it's a shitty cpu the outcome is the same choppy mess.
For eg if I had a fx 4100/4300 with me the above two games would have run fine . Lack of instructions is killing the Phenom lineup. Otherwise just imagine if we're to have the instructions like its fx siblings they would be a great budget option in 2020 specially the 6 core x6 variant .
Thank you guys for your answers! :D
Wow. This is horrible. I would have at least expected a 200GE
Nah, those are actually somewhat desirable at the low end. You don't need to sand the markings off of that to shift it.
There is 1 cool feature to these CPUs
They clock extremely good under LN2
I benched the FM2 Athlons way above 7.5 Ghz
I have excavator
AMD FX-8350
It is total disaster. My AMD Phenom II X6 1100T is faster then this. There are exactly reasons, why it is in my system.
1. I need AES to be able to use LUKS at NVME speeds.
2. It actually have slightly bigger Level 3 cache, which improves multitasking performance (I could easily utilise 24 cores - I have tried).
I am considering switching to HP DL385 G7 with 2 AMD Opteron 6174 and 64GB or 128GB or 192GB RAM. I just need to make few modifications (solder SFF-8087 socket for additional 4 SATA ports, modify Fan profile etc)
Try intels instruction set emulator with the 1100t, it adds all the current intel cpu instructons and some yet to be added ones used for game and software development with very little overhead. I have a friend who uses it for his 1035T
It's 5am, I can't sleep and there's a new video yay.
Edit: The problem is that it looks like it's a great CPU for older games/emulation but it's an AM4 socket so you need a current AM4 MB and DDR4 ram when a used AM2+ and DD3 combo will do just fine.
Nah it's an FM-2
@@Markus-zb5zd 2:43 it's a re-release
www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/7th-gen-amd-athlon-x4-950
The GTA 5 footage really hit close to home, I somehow ran the game with the highest settings on my Pentium.
EDIT: My friend has an Athlon X4 860K, he OC'd it to 4GHZ.
don't see the point in that overclock, thats the max boost clock
I used to have an amd Athlon x4 845 which runs a bit better than the 860k on paper
it was ok for gaming and I could edit videos with some patience, it could also do 10,000 kbps x264 ultrafast no problem on OBS so It wasn't that bad but a ryzen 3 would prob do better
they can OC pretty good, got mine to 4.2.
@@jamestor6700 boost/turbo dont apply to all cores..so yeah....
@@Vesper8088 he oc'd his 860k to 4ghz
That cinebench multi score is worse than my xeon e5472 from 2007. lol
Kaveri, (if not the one right after as well) is known to get beat by many first-gen Core is! Those AMD CPUs honestly feel more like a dual core!
me sitting here in quarantine using the processor from the video which i bought brand new for like 50euros.....
back when i bought it we didn't have ryzen 3
If i got a package with a cpu wrapped up with a rubberband that makes it look like a voodoo doll, i'd probably throw it away.
...or burn it at the stake, ceremonially.
@@Teeb2023 I don't think i can reverse the curse from that one, especially an Athlon.
When you see "Genuine" in a product listing, that alone is a red flag.
honestly, I am also amazed that the CPU even posted, I was expecting it to not even fit in the socket, let alone game. Also, I have a quick question for you. noticing that you run at least seven drives, do you know a cheap case that I can get new, or used readily available that can fit at least six drives? me and a friend want to do an affordable server project and there are almost no cases that can fit our needs that don't cost an arm and a leg. I'm in the US, any input would be much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
I think you can get some old corsair cases used that have a lot of HDD Space in them, Amazon Warehouse has a good few used ones on there form time to time
@@budgetbuildsliveunofficial7896 thank you for your input. Keep it up with the great content!
The second I saw what was on the cover, I knew it was an Athlon.
I didn't even know there were Athlon CPUs for the AM4 socket. I thought they were all based on the Zen design.
the way this CPU is about the same performance as mine while mine was over 3x the cost, you gotta love it
What CPU are you using
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial I mean watching the entire video I can see a few variations but I am using a i5 7500 which don't get me wrong is better in many tasks compared to this but it is still the same 4 core 4 thread 3.8 GHz chipset that this scam one is
Core Counts and Clock Speed =/= Performance. The Pentium D Extreme Edition had 3.8Ghz 2c/4t. It wouldnt match a 200GE at all though would it
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial yeah true if you look at it that way, i guess i just expect more performance from it, and for the price too, you can't beat a Gen 2 Ryzen's on price against Intel's offerings
12:04 Pentium D have the higher number?? Wait a minute (looking closer)..
Shorter is better written in smaller text. Dang It.
Oh man, I thought you've gotten yourself one of those China exclusive Hygon CPUs
Those things are a bigger risk to cyber security than Intel's ME/IME chip. Jfc.
Mate how are you meant to benchmark it with such a bottleneck, you shouldve used a Palit 8400 GS 256mb DDR2 so that you can really extract all performance from such a cpu
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i love the idea of benchmarking cpus with beamng
Runs like a simulation honestly
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial my i3 6300 can run beamng way smoother than that athlon
i think it's probably because of that L3 cache
Its also a much better CPU. I went from an FX4300 (better than this) to a Core i3 6100, and the experience is much better in virtually all titles
Budget-Builds Official my $1400 laptops 7th gen i7 gets around 50-60fps on medium and tanks with multiple vehicles oof
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial
i used to have a computer that had:
an amd athlon x2 64 5000+
2gb of ddr2
a nvidia geforce gt 8600
and then i built my own computer that had:
an intel core i3 6300
16gb of ddr4
an amd rx560 4gb vram (the one with 896 shader count)
the difference was like night and day
i might upgrade to a 6th gen i5 later this year
I could instantly tell it's a non-ryzen CPU just by looking at it.
How, except because of the way he got it?
@@riky48 the way the print looks. Ryzens have the QR code in the bottom left corner, right side up, however this cpu has the qr code in the middle flipped on its side, I know my old Athlon had it and all the bulldozer cpus had it.
Good to know, thanks mate
Makes me appreciate my i7 if I'm honest.it may be old but it's gold still holds up strong today for my gaming pc.
Online sellers (not every) always try to send faulty product 1 of 100 costumers and they know that every customer (victim) will not return product and whenever he/she (victim) will return product they(seller) either refuse it or replace by another faulty product. And mostly customer don't have more time to return it again and again.
You should download the pikes peak map from the beamng repository. Its a huge map which stresses the cpu a lot but also takes like 10 minutes to load (doesn’t load for me anymore since a recent update of the game because i don’t have 16gb ram and the game crashes)
Nice video! Good you benchmarking with BeamNg.Drive.
I wonder if that processor has anything going for it.
It is a good processor, just isnt good enougth at gaming, or anything else actually.
It is kinda just there, waiting for someone to buy it hoping its a Ryzen 7.
I might buy at €10-€20 but no way €50 recommended retail price.
I'm surprised it's actually an and am4 cpu, thought it would be just whatever random junk they could find
If they could transform an old CPU into this, it means that the socket is not an issue if AMD would really want to keep the AM4 socket on future generations.
I am liking the Sim City 3000 UK Edition sound track
I love the choice of SC3K music. ;)
i know this is an older video, but my issue with the am4 versions of the fm2/+ variants is that they actually reduced the cache in the newer variants, rather than increasing it.
seriously tho a c2d has more l2 cache
The Bulldozer-based AM4 Athlons really are useless, especially at this point. I mean, the FM2 Athlons aren't exactly powerhouses either, but at least you can run Windows 7 (or even XP on some) on them and use them as retro gaming machines.
For cpu testing,i think you can use SUPERHOT,it's cpu-intensive.Also the best shooter i have played in years.
That’s the one problem with AM4 - you can put dreadful dozer uArch derived CPU’s in the socket. They were bad at the “high-end” in pre-AM4 days, and they were truly terrible at the low-end. The only good thing about the AM4 Dozer variants is, if you were unlucky enough to get one of these dreadful lumps of sand in a new computer, you could rip it out of its socket, throw it in the garbage, and put something far better in its place.
I had an athlon x4 880k (i still have it, but it's in his box now :p ). I had to overclock it to 4.9Ghz (on an a68 asrock motherboard 😅) to have a pleasant experience on csgo, and PUBG ran at like 50-60 fps, so not that bad
Edit : and like budget build's friend, i upgraded on a lga 1155, but ivy bridge (xeon e3 1230v2)
You can still game on the old Athlons if you're willing to be realistic. I'm still running an Athlon X4 870K, which is Godavari and using DDR3, one generation older than your Bristol Ridge. Of course, it can also hit 4.5 GHz if I need it to, and runs on 2133 RAM. It performs in about the same ballpark as your "fake Ryzen."
Most of the Bristol Ridge parts were just sold as placeholders for early adopters of AM4, and were quickly replaced with Ryzen when the owners could get it. AMD would have done better to just sell them as FM2+ parts with DDR3, like they did with Kaveri and Godavari.
From what I gathered, this cpu scores just a touch below 300 points in Cinebench R15, while my old Athlon II x4 651 (built on an ancient K10 architecture and a huge 32 nm node) scores ~330 (I don't have cinebench r20 results). Now that's pathetic if you ask me.
I would have been too worried to even socket it up for fear of toasting my board
Here is the thing about the BeamNG.Drive test he should of tested BeamNG with multiple cars instead of one to really stress the CPU
Still using my X4 860K in my HTPC rig I built in 2015.
I'm OC'ed to 4.4ghz and Im yet to find a game I cannot play at acceptable settings in 1080p.
All things considered it was surprisingly decent for what's essentially a FX 4300 with no L3 cache, but you know it's terrible when even an Athlon 200GE, the weakest Zen CPU available, fared a lot better despite being a dual core.
CPUs like that don't make sense anymore, you either get an APU if you're broke and can't afford a GPU at the moment, or buy a 1600 AF and a 570 or better, it makes a lot more sense that buying obsolete tech from 2014.
My A8-5600k which uses the older piledriver architecture with twice the L2 ,but less L1 and a slightly higher clockspeed and it has none of the problems mentioned in the video, general usage is fine and GTA V doesn't have the popin issue last I checked (which was like 2 years ago but still). Note however that I use windows 7 on that computer because I don't care about the security risk or anything right now, it's just a secondary gaming box for LANs and the like, so I'm happy as long as it manages fine in lighter games, and it does.
Could be good for updating the bios of 1st and 2nd gen motherboards.
This thing's performance is basically that of an overclocked Core 2 Quad on AM4...
My old q9400 core 2 quad actually run some of these games much better than this crap without overclocking
Something is seriously wrong with that CPU or your setup, I had an A8 5600K with 8GB RAM 1866 and 120GB SSD. I don't ever remember seeing windows 10 running at 100% when starting, paired with an HD 7970 and that CPU could play GTA V smoothly without any texture issues in the video. I suspect the lack of chipset driver causing the problem, perhaps you could try installing chipset driver on AMD website to see if it help.
Thank you for making videos for us, sir!!!!!
Thank you for sharing the story. 👍🙂
What should I say to myself when gaming with a GMA x4500 in 2020
You and RandomGaminginHD should do something like a scrapyard wars to see who will build a better pc.
That should still be ok for a NAS. Ryzen has spoiled us. We forget that 3 years ago a 4 cores 8 threads CPU was considered high-end.
The x 4 940 vs its am3 counter part see if ddr4 made it faster
New subscriber here, love your channel, keep up the good work!
I wonder how it'd go with a bit of an overclock. That lack of clock speed and the L3 cache makes this seem REALLY slow in comparison to my old FX-4170 back in the day, I mean, that wasn't quick, but this seems ridiculously slow even compared to my retro PCs Q9550 on Win10 which gets around the same scores as the FX did.
I attempted to OC a bit, but this chip didnt want to budge at all
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Damn :(
I also have experience with computers
Damn. The bubble packs and the rubber band is more heavier than the content. It doesn't have a fan..
I had an A12-9800 before the Ryzen APUs came out and that wasn't much better despite the increased clock speed and TDP because the iGPU stole all the power budget.
You can scan that pattern/QCcode on the IHS with your phone and it will bring you to AMDs website with the product details
Crazy how good these rip-off artists are getting. The GPU rip-offs are terrible enough as it is. Thanks for getting the information out there.
Architecture: Excavator 🤔
Fitting, seeing as you pretty much dug up a turd when you bought that 😅😂
I ran this cpu daily for more than an year(paired with a X370 MSI board and an RX 560 4GB) before upgrading to a ryzen 2200g, i had it clocked at 4.0 most of the times, sometimes at 4.1-4.2 but these clocks we're causing stability issues(maybe because idk how to OC well enough, or cooling or maybe just bad luck at the already poor lottery).
All in all it was decent from what i needed as i don't run any AAA titles, i was fine with locked 60 on cs go at ultra and warframe at high settings.
The difference between this and the new ryzen i have rn is enormous tho also upgraded to an RX590.
It's useful for one thing... and probably one thing only. Bringing up an older AM4 mobo just long enough to flash it for Zen2 support.
Imagine having to power a virtual world to remote control a real car on this cpu. Textures and avatars take a very long time to load, but you're yelled orders to go go go.
There are advantages and disadvantages having AMD running one socket for that much generations...sadly bad people make money out of it. :/
BeamNG is quite the torture test for graphics cards especially. I got an FX-8530/Radeon 7950 system for free in 2017 and even then, BeamNG wasn't that great, and I watched it age for two years.
My Ryzen 7 3700X and RX 5700 eat BeamNG for breakfast.
used to own old 860k, worst case scenario isn't game FPS it's that you cant multitask, listening to music and playing a game is impossible.
Yes love your vids finally something for quarantine
Edit :should I buy I core 2 quad pc for gaming please reply
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I wouldnt touch 775 for gaming today. 1155 is nearly the same price and better
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial yeah , at least an ivy Bridge i5 3570k (4 cores , 4 threads) and 8 to 16 Gigs of DDR3@1333 of ram , just to be secure , or , if he want buy new, i suggest a Ryzen 3 3200g ( or the new Ryzen 5 AF), with 8 (16 is the sweet-spot)Gigs of DDR4@3200 , an B450 Mobo (MSI B450 Tomahawk) and an Rx 580(new) or a GTX 1660 paired with an SSD (120Gb) for the OS and a 1Tb HDD for the rest ........it's minimum to get 60FPS@1080p on most of AAA titles (for now at least)
No just don't as much as i love Core 2 quad just dont buy Ivy brigde/Sandy Brigde/Haswell are much better or just buy R5 1600Af for 85$ and then upgrade it in 2-3 years it will be much better than an i5s or core 2 quad. Core 2 Quad is on 65nm/45nm wich are bad compared to any modern litography and 99% of lga 775 mobos use ddr2 wich is another bottleneck also sata 1 and usb2. Just buy some 2nd/3rd/4th gen i5 or r5 1600af. You can build a system for 600-700$ wich will play everything on medium-high settings without bottlencks.
@Jay Arre i know q6600 is trash right now
Great video!
The r20 multi core scores was only just higher than my 3800x's single core score
im honestly suprised that with that packaging the CPU pins didnt break
Hey man, that's not cool calling that thing useless. I was cooking with an X4 845 just a few years ago, and then an FX 8350, and now a Ryzen 5 2600. How dare you!!!
Computer hardware on ebay is almost always guaranteed to be fake.
The cinebench score is a 1/4 of my FX 8150 which scores well over 2000
lack of cache means so much, I had an intel i5 7400 up till recently, and it could run games so much better despite literally being 4 core 4 thread at 3.3 ghz at best
Can you do a feature on the older Sandy Bridge CPU's? I have the impression that the older generation i5's and i7's which you can pick up for cheap have aged surprisingly well. Even on my 8-year-old i7, the main bottleneck on gaming is my GPU.
I will do as these are awesome CPUs. Recently was messing with a dual core ivy i5 and a 4Ghz OC. Still awesome
That QR code looks usable.
I knew it, the second I saw this video. These would simply be relabeled, Excavator V2 (aka pre-Zen) based Bristol Ridge APU's.
Why they saddled those cpu's with only 1mb L2 per module is baffling. The sad thing is those bulldozer cores actually had a lot of other architectural tweeks which made them slightly faster than previous generation bulldozers with 2mb/module, in spite of the smaller L2. Which is quite a feat. It really does suck they did that. I guess they wanted it to make ryzen look as good as possible given these came out pretty much right on top of it.
Wow, I didnt even knew that there was an am4 Athlon.(x4)
Excellent bios flashing cpu for when you need to update that b450
Suddenly paying $35 for a 3rd or 4th gen i5 doesn't feel so bad... Those old v2 and v3 xeons are beginning to look like gold...
I Would probably use that processor for a server, not for gaming. But I guess for the simple tasks its alright to work with