Not only does the low fuel alarm goes off with 6-7 gallons left in the tank (Which is not too big of a deal in my opinion) it now it takes forever to fill them up. What really bothers me is the nozzle leading from the filler cap to the tank only allows fuel to be poured in at a snails pace. You have to top up the fuel several times as it works its way down into the tank. It has some new baffle system in it (Which they had a recall for last year) which results tripling the time it takes to fuel your machine. I am sure it is a safety feature but it makes it challenging to know if your machine is filled all the way to the top.
Alarm can be turned off if you time it right. The ski must be stopped before you can touch the screen icon BUT as soon as you stop the hull levels out and the float rises. So it a game of cat and mouse. FRUSTRATING!!!!!
As a 2022 Yamaha FX owner, I can tell you that the fuel gauging and alarm system on them is BROKEN. In every sense of the word, it is broken. It is broken to the point that the entire ski itself should be considered broken. The fuel gauge reads empty when it's still actually half full. The fuel alarm goes off at speed and cannot be silenced. There is no physical mute button anymore. Both the screen and physical "OK" button are locked out. You are forced into either filling up on the water, or only having half a day's worth of riding. Yamaha can say whatever they want about safety, but when a fuel gauge is so bad that people come to just disregard it, that's far worse safety-wise than having an accurate fuel gauge. I am jumping ship from Yamaha and trading in my FX for a 2023 Sea-Doo GTX 230. I am done with being lied to every time I call them up to see if there's a fix yet. The message boards and forums are filled with hundreds of complains in any given thread, yet Yamaha claims this is a "brand new" complaint every time I call, and are "working on a fix". Both are flat out lies. Yamaha cannot even bring themselves to spend the 5 minutes of engineering time to issue a software fix for the trip computer resetting with every start and stop of the machine. That level of arrogance on part of Yamaha is nothing short of astounding and infuriating. Between these deceptive and irresponsible business practices, and this latest "Women Run the Water" gender politics baiting, I am done with Yamaha Marine. Switching to Sea-Doo and never looking back. My dealer still has a few left on the allocation for the late-Spring delivery.
Unfortunately, the fuel alarm and rapid "ramp" of the fuel gauge/float is entirely intentional. It is on purpose for reasons we've exhausted on this channel multiple times.
@@watercraftjournal I know, and I don't doubt that you're correct, especially given your insider knowledge. The problem is, that does not take away from the fact it is, either intentionally or unintentionally, broken by Yamaha. Nor that they're *intentionally* trying to conceal this from prospective and current owners by lying about it to those who phone into corporate HQ. In my opinion, Yamaha has lost all of its trustworthiness.
Amongst others, I have mixed feelings about what was done to remedy the suit. The simplest thing to do is learn how much fuel you have remaining when the alarm comes on, but then there’s no gauge for what’s remaining. Are there any suggestions or tricks people do to gauge whats’s left (I.e. visually, looking at your gal/hr usage, etc.)?
My brand new 2023 FX Cruiser HO alarmed from the factory after adding 15 gal. As soon as I go from water to trailer, it shows normal level. The starting level was 2" below top of tank. Possibly a bad fuel sending unit, but it hasn't been diagnosed by the dealer yet.
I wanted to add an update in case you run across others with my issue. After replacing the fuel pump assembly under warranty with no success, the dealer discovered that a small number 2023 FX models shipped with displays that failed to communicate with the fuel pump assemblies. The touchscreen display was replaced and all is good.
Sea Doo does it. I just assumed it was a semi-accurate float. Alarm comes on and you fill it up and you can't put anywhere near what the tank is rated for. I mean LOTS of automobiles do the same. Companies always have to design for dumbest buyer and that is hard to do. lol
I feel like my '22 Jetblaster drinks gas but when I go to the Pump I've barely used any. The fuel gague is senstive I ride at 3/4 longer than I do full. This would sum it up then, thanks!
Thank you Kevin! I have a 2023 FX SVHO. It seems my low fuel alarm comes on with approximately 6-7 gallons of gas, but I completely fill it up. I took out the check valve. I have also noticed that when you’re cruising, and the fuel alarm buzzer comes on, you could let off the gas completely and silence the alarm and then hit the gas again. So it seems that the screen lock out is based on the throttle input and not speed.
A stupid and simple question. Can i change that on kawi? So i would get alarm later? Yes or No? It sounds pretty easy to be changed. Long trip rider. I refuel to early.
No. Well, sorta. If you're OK with the 6 hours of labor to disassemble much of your ski to remove the fuel sender, extract the float, bend the float (hopefully to the right position) and reassemble everything and pray you didn't totally eff up your new Yamaha.
@@boandjill Would anyone even notice if another warning was going off, like the check engine, if the gas alarm is already buzzing? I would think not. You have to rely on your screen just like you do when driving your car, and that is why I unplugged mine. But to answer your question, there is a video out there on how to disconnect it. It is very easy to get to and just takes a couple of minutes and can be reconnected just as easily if you don't like the result.
David that's the same bullshit my and everyone else's Yamaha FX is doing. It's safe to say that Yamaha is completely full of shit at this point. Calling this a "feature" is just dumb.
I don’t believe the Yamaha attorneys have this one figured out totally and they came up with an extremely lazy, lame-ass way of dealing with the guy in the middle of the ocean who ignored his alarm. A realistic fix to this would be to notify the rider when he has 8 gallons and is sort-of getting low on fuel with a beep that is continuous but can be silenced. After 10-15 minutes of continued riding at the same speed and fuel consumption, another alarm comes up. As the fuel situation worsens, a series of escalating alarms which get louder begin to occur, and the entire MFD starts flashing RED when fuel is at 10%. At that time, the ski sets speed automatically to best economy cruise and can only be reduced - not increased. At 5%, the alarm becomes constant and may not be silenced. At 2%, a message on the MFD reads “shutdown imminent”, and the ski shuts down before the fuel pump burns out when fuel is about 1 gallon or less remaining. And due to the recent class action lawsuit, Yamaha will be forced to do something similar to the above. You need to talk to a lot more dealers and not just the manufacturer - this is the #1 cause of complaints on new Yamaha skis. Yamaha just throwing their hands up and issuing a “sorry, the lawyers told us we need to have this ear-damaging alarm come on and you have to manually silence it every 45-60 seconds” is unacceptable. They gave us a 5 hour software adjustment from design to QA to test when a much more robust solution would have cost them $25-$100k to develop and then a $500 per ski dealership recall for a flash update. It isn’t going to be cheap, but Yamaha is now getting sued instead of just a complaint or two here and there about an idiot who “drank the shampoo”. Have you read the class action suit? Please re-address this if you can - I just bought two brand new 2023 Yamaha FX Cruiser H/O’s for like $43k out the door (with tandem trailer, extended warranty, tax, etc.) and I’d never buy another one. This sucks the joy out of riding, hurts Yamaha’s formerly good name, and cast a negative light on the entire PWC industry.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. I guess the solution is to bring a long stick to check the fuel level just like they did in nineteen aught seven.
@@watercraftjournal I didn’t even realize it did that, I use the mpg average, usually around 5.4 and the gallons used per tank to figure distance. Seems like below 5k rpm is the sweet spot for range. There’s a ton of variables it seems.
I agree but the "bigger" issue for me is that the alarm keeps going off. Extremely annoying and if out a long ride it is still stressful. Just not right.
The whole point of a gauge is to give information…. If it gives the wrong information on purpose why not just remove the gauge all together it’s just as useful then.
Hey Kevin it’s Tony (Walt’s) what’s up bro? Hey man thanks for the info, yes Yamaha Shit the bed on this one holy smokes alarm goes nuts takes 10.7 gallons to fill it back up knowing it holds 18.7 soooo STUPID!!! Because a couple morons ran out of fuel Yamaha decided to turn the alarm on at a little over 1/2 a tank sorry Yamaha that’s just stupid!!
So stupid. So what is now stopping these same morons and same ambulance chasing lawyers from suing again if the low fuel alarm goes off with half a tank versus 1/3 and keep riding and riding and riding again. Seriously people are just messed up
As usual we have to deal with stupidity causing the issue.... Like speed limits and buttons battery..... Is life 🤣... Common sense is not that common anymore we need instruction or laws to teach us common sense 🤣🤣🤣
So all this because of this morons! So im guessing ill have to unbent the arm on the float a bit... i see this issue in a yamaha group all the time 😂 wonder how true this is tho
Not only does the low fuel alarm goes off with 6-7 gallons left in the tank (Which is not too big of a deal in my opinion) it now it takes forever to fill them up. What really bothers me is the nozzle leading from the filler cap to the tank only allows fuel to be poured in at a snails pace. You have to top up the fuel several times as it works its way down into the tank. It has some new baffle system in it (Which they had a recall for last year) which results tripling the time it takes to fuel your machine. I am sure it is a safety feature but it makes it challenging to know if your machine is filled all the way to the top.
my 21 stx160 will puke gas out if the gas nozzle is at full throttle. Quite annoying
It does effect the ride especially when you go on long rides and you can’t turn the alarm off on the 22’s it’s complete BS
@@4mula353 yeah it takes ages to fill it up. Always spill at dock fill ups. A guessing game. Great machine though once it’s full!
@@DrRob-rt2lf You can't turn it off? Are you sure? I have a 21 and you can turn the alarm off.
Alarm can be turned off if you time it right. The ski must be stopped before you can touch the screen icon BUT as soon as you stop the hull levels out and the float rises. So it a game of cat and mouse. FRUSTRATING!!!!!
As a 2022 Yamaha FX owner, I can tell you that the fuel gauging and alarm system on them is BROKEN. In every sense of the word, it is broken. It is broken to the point that the entire ski itself should be considered broken. The fuel gauge reads empty when it's still actually half full. The fuel alarm goes off at speed and cannot be silenced. There is no physical mute button anymore. Both the screen and physical "OK" button are locked out. You are forced into either filling up on the water, or only having half a day's worth of riding. Yamaha can say whatever they want about safety, but when a fuel gauge is so bad that people come to just disregard it, that's far worse safety-wise than having an accurate fuel gauge.
I am jumping ship from Yamaha and trading in my FX for a 2023 Sea-Doo GTX 230. I am done with being lied to every time I call them up to see if there's a fix yet. The message boards and forums are filled with hundreds of complains in any given thread, yet Yamaha claims this is a "brand new" complaint every time I call, and are "working on a fix". Both are flat out lies. Yamaha cannot even bring themselves to spend the 5 minutes of engineering time to issue a software fix for the trip computer resetting with every start and stop of the machine. That level of arrogance on part of Yamaha is nothing short of astounding and infuriating.
Between these deceptive and irresponsible business practices, and this latest "Women Run the Water" gender politics baiting, I am done with Yamaha Marine. Switching to Sea-Doo and never looking back. My dealer still has a few left on the allocation for the late-Spring delivery.
Unfortunately, the fuel alarm and rapid "ramp" of the fuel gauge/float is entirely intentional. It is on purpose for reasons we've exhausted on this channel multiple times.
@@watercraftjournal I know, and I don't doubt that you're correct, especially given your insider knowledge. The problem is, that does not take away from the fact it is, either intentionally or unintentionally, broken by Yamaha. Nor that they're *intentionally* trying to conceal this from prospective and current owners by lying about it to those who phone into corporate HQ. In my opinion, Yamaha has lost all of its trustworthiness.
Sheesh, complaining about a fuel gauge. Wait till you get the seadoo 🤭😂😭
@@AlexanderTheGrateful🎯
Amongst others, I have mixed feelings about what was done to remedy the suit. The simplest thing to do is learn how much fuel you have remaining when the alarm comes on, but then there’s no gauge for what’s remaining. Are there any suggestions or tricks people do to gauge whats’s left (I.e. visually, looking at your gal/hr usage, etc.)?
You can’t teach common sense!
My brand new 2023 FX Cruiser HO alarmed from the factory after adding 15 gal. As soon as I go from water to trailer, it shows normal level. The starting level was 2" below top of tank. Possibly a bad fuel sending unit, but it hasn't been diagnosed by the dealer yet.
Maybe. Seems odd
I wanted to add an update in case you run across others with my issue. After replacing the fuel pump assembly under warranty with no success, the dealer discovered that a small number 2023 FX models shipped with displays that failed to communicate with the fuel pump assemblies. The touchscreen display was replaced and all is good.
Sea Doo does it. I just assumed it was a semi-accurate float. Alarm comes on and you fill it up and you can't put anywhere near what the tank is rated for. I mean LOTS of automobiles do the same. Companies always have to design for dumbest buyer and that is hard to do. lol
Seadoos will alarm once you have 1/4 tank remaining.
You’re not wrong there
I feel like my '22 Jetblaster drinks gas but when I go to the Pump I've barely used any. The fuel gague is senstive I ride at 3/4 longer than I do full. This would sum it up then, thanks!
Have you heard any updates on the 2022 and up FX’s fuel used and trip resetting every time the display shuts down?
No, it still exists on the 2023 models. I do know that Yamaha is 100% aware of the resetting issue but hasn't issued a patch/software update.
Thank you Kevin! I have a 2023 FX SVHO. It seems my low fuel alarm comes on with approximately 6-7 gallons of gas, but I completely fill it up. I took out the check valve. I have also noticed that when you’re cruising, and the fuel alarm buzzer comes on, you could let off the gas completely and silence the alarm and then hit the gas again. So it seems that the screen lock out is based on the throttle input and not speed.
A stupid and simple question. Can i change that on kawi? So i would get alarm later? Yes or No? It sounds pretty easy to be changed. Long trip rider. I refuel to early.
No. Well, sorta. If you're OK with the 6 hours of labor to disassemble much of your ski to remove the fuel sender, extract the float, bend the float (hopefully to the right position) and reassemble everything and pray you didn't totally eff up your new Yamaha.
@@watercraftjournalhe was asking if this is possible on a Kawi - not a Yamaha
I always wondered that. I thought my shit was chugging fuel then the gauge wasn’t working right
I got a 2021 VX HO and i noticed the low fuel warning seemed to come on alot, and also a 2021 ex and it seems to never come on
Yup. It’s not a bug. It’s a feature.
Where is the speaker that produces the alarm sound. I would like to disconnect it. I can figure out my own gas thank you.
I would assume that's the speaker for all alarms, including check engine, overheats, etc. I do not recommend disabling that speaker.
Yeah not the best idea. We did see somebody just pull the fuel float and bend the float arm.
@@boandjill good point.
@@boandjill Would anyone even notice if another warning was going off, like the check engine, if the gas alarm is already buzzing? I would think not. You have to rely on your screen just like you do when driving your car, and that is why I unplugged mine.
But to answer your question, there is a video out there on how to disconnect it. It is very easy to get to and just takes a couple of minutes and can be reconnected just as easily if you don't like the result.
I have 2022 fx ho fuel alarm comes on at a half tank. And every time I shut it off, the trip and fuel used rest.
Yeah, the trip reset is certainly a programming error.
David that's the same bullshit my and everyone else's Yamaha FX is doing. It's safe to say that Yamaha is completely full of shit at this point. Calling this a "feature" is just dumb.
I don’t believe the Yamaha attorneys have this one figured out totally and they came up with an extremely lazy, lame-ass way of dealing with the guy in the middle of the ocean who ignored his alarm. A realistic fix to this would be to notify the rider when he has 8 gallons and is sort-of getting low on fuel with a beep that is continuous but can be silenced. After 10-15 minutes of continued riding at the same speed and fuel consumption, another alarm comes up. As the fuel situation worsens, a series of escalating alarms which get louder begin to occur, and the entire MFD starts flashing RED when fuel is at 10%. At that time, the ski sets speed automatically to best economy cruise and can only be reduced - not increased. At 5%, the alarm becomes constant and may not be silenced. At 2%, a message on the MFD reads “shutdown imminent”, and the ski shuts down before the fuel pump burns out when fuel is about 1 gallon or less remaining. And due to the recent class action lawsuit, Yamaha will be forced to do something similar to the above. You need to talk to a lot more dealers and not just the manufacturer - this is the #1 cause of complaints on new Yamaha skis. Yamaha just throwing their hands up and issuing a “sorry, the lawyers told us we need to have this ear-damaging alarm come on and you have to manually silence it every 45-60 seconds” is unacceptable. They gave us a 5 hour software adjustment from design to QA to test when a much more robust solution would have cost them $25-$100k to develop and then a $500 per ski dealership recall for a flash update. It isn’t going to be cheap, but Yamaha is now getting sued instead of just a complaint or two here and there about an idiot who “drank the shampoo”. Have you read the class action suit? Please re-address this if you can - I just bought two brand new 2023 Yamaha FX Cruiser H/O’s for like $43k out the door (with tandem trailer, extended warranty, tax, etc.) and I’d never buy another one. This sucks the joy out of riding, hurts Yamaha’s formerly good name, and cast a negative light on the entire PWC industry.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. I guess the solution is to bring a long stick to check the fuel level just like they did in nineteen aught seven.
LOL!
Great idea if you could silence the alarm… actually, I won’t call it an alarm, it’s as loud as the siren on a passing ambulance
Just reset the gallons used at every fill up. You know on Yamahas you have an 18 gallon tank. Simple math can do a lot for you.
True. Of course the trip tracker resets every time you kill the engine. Now that is a screw up.
@@watercraftjournal I didn’t even realize it did that, I use the mpg average, usually around 5.4 and the gallons used per tank to figure distance. Seems like below 5k rpm is the sweet spot for range. There’s a ton of variables it seems.
I agree but the "bigger" issue for me is that the alarm keeps going off. Extremely annoying and if out a long ride it is still stressful. Just not right.
@@richiecapuccino9853 hit the alarm silence button.
2023 VX deluxe trip meter does not reset until you reset it and the gallons used is almost spot on so far!
The whole point of a gauge is to give information…. If it gives the wrong information on purpose why not just remove the gauge all together it’s just as useful then.
No more second thoughts, I’m just adding an auxiliary fuel system so I don’t have to deal with this bullshit.
And here's where you can get the best one in the industry: watercraftjournal.com/product/long-hauler-auxiliary-fuel-system-kit/
Mine is a pain in the arse! FXHO
No wonder!!
Hey Kevin it’s Tony (Walt’s) what’s up bro?
Hey man thanks for the info, yes Yamaha Shit the bed on this one holy smokes alarm goes nuts takes 10.7 gallons to fill it back up knowing it holds 18.7 soooo STUPID!!!
Because a couple morons ran out of fuel Yamaha decided to turn the alarm on at a little over 1/2 a tank sorry Yamaha that’s just stupid!!
Sadly, the alarm issue is intentional and not an accident - which makes it kinda worse.
Lol, Dam Tide Pod kids
LOL likely their parents
So stupid. So what is now stopping these same morons and same ambulance chasing lawyers from suing again if the low fuel alarm goes off with half a tank versus 1/3 and keep riding and riding and riding again. Seriously people are just messed up
Gotta get rid of the lawyers
As usual we have to deal with stupidity causing the issue.... Like speed limits and buttons battery..... Is life 🤣... Common sense is not that common anymore we need instruction or laws to teach us common sense 🤣🤣🤣
Don’t drink the shampoo!
So all this because of this morons!
So im guessing ill have to unbent the arm on the float a bit... i see this issue in a yamaha group all the time 😂 wonder how true this is tho