I actually really love the idea of just messing up opponents mulligans, but its never sth that was a big thing in the meta other than when Corina ctrl (Nx/Si/Elise) was first meta and noone knew the decks. Well, Im always hyped for dumb combo decks
My theory is that the change to attach will be that when the unit dies the attach card falls off and sits in play instead of going to hand. Like Yuumi does in LoL
Sounds like a buff to me. Drawing multiple of the same attach units is bad and redundant as you could see Swim suffering from. This change would eliminate that and give you a free summon (body) to delay longer so you can pull off a combo again, if not use that very summoned unit as an attach target instead of having to waste mana and pass more initiative summoning another unit to be the catalyst for the combo. In other words, you'd increase the mana efficiency and speed of the deck, and I'm not sure if that's a good idea. The weakness of attach is that of any combo deck: Being swarmed, requires setup, can be easily disrupted (when it is, it's pretty much game over, unlike burn), and it's slow. For most good decks, it's easy to disrupt the attach gameplan in some sufficient way. You don't even need to kill the unit, just delay it a turn before you close out the game or force it to block. Play attach decks and you'll realize it's not as godly as people think it is. You're pretty vulnerable the entire time and you're using your nexus health as a means to set up combos that could potentially get disrupted easily and set you back to step 1. If anything, it'd be better to nerf some of the attach cards or remove certain interactions. For example, idk if the Mask Mother interaction should remain because it's not the base unit that's giving itself elusive (Mask Mother's true target since it doesn't kill the attached unit), it's the attach unit giving it to it. It's likely an unintended inconsistency bc it's not the same with the Minimorph interaction, where it doesn't even interact with the attach unit, but it def does affect the catalyst because that's it's intended target. Mask Mother should be the same, only affect the catalyst and ignore the attach. Probably easier said than it is to code though. It's a matter of ironing out the new mechanic. Another change would prob be removing the modifiers the attach units currently retain... Like Field Promotion lol
I've been playing both of your attached decks for the past day, and I can say that is the most fun that I have had so far playing LOR 😂 I literally cackle every time I mask mother a librarian with rainbow fish.
Does atrocity still deal the damage and not kill the unit if it has spell shield? When I saw the owl cats it made me think of this, and I have no idea how it would shake out
Unfortunately I don't think there was any way to beat that Gnar opener with a bad hand + bad second manifest rng. =( Flower Child could've blocked 4 damage, but that would've meant no Elusive, so Swim has no way of winning. Naked Quill would've blocked 2 damage, but then Mega Gnar would've just killed the librarian instead of going for lethal and the game's over anyway. The other pure defence lines (like Atrocity-ing the Mega Gnar or chumping with naked attach units) would've left Swim with no way of winning.
I feel like all "attach" interactions should be kept, the recall, the permanent buffs, etc But just nerf Rainbowfish! Quick Quill, Yuumi and Papercraft Dragon are perfectly fine, *barely* playable without Fae aid or Gleaming Lantern... But Rainbowfish? Its broken in an unfun way... they should probably make it a 0/2 or something, increasing the mana cost probably won't do anything (since they get discounted anyway) Please Riot... don't nerf attach, just nerf Rainbowfish. Don't ruin such a fun mechanic :'(
Ngl the deck ideas r fun but I just dont watch these videos. Please edit the “nothing is happening” parts out. Swim and grapp r equally skilled but I just never watch these videos cuz theyre basically just raw videos
streaming every day (even tho i didn't yesterday but shhh): twitch.tv/swimstrim
Deeecklist: lor.mobalytics.gg/decks/c8amt2snu6bq5an4g4e0
with attach being such a good counter to minimorph it's safe to say that bandle city's only counter is bandle city
I just started the yt channel playing LOR please try to see if you like it :3
I actually really love the idea of just messing up opponents mulligans, but its never sth that was a big thing in the meta other than when Corina ctrl (Nx/Si/Elise) was first meta and noone knew the decks. Well, Im always hyped for dumb combo decks
I probably do that unintentionally just because my decks are a complete mess 😅
I just started the yt channel playing LOR please try to see if you like it :)
Senna saw the aloof drop and yelled "Get down Mr. President!"
Every swim video and stream "I'm not insane, you're insane." *Joker laugh whole stream*
My theory is that the change to attach will be that when the unit dies the attach card falls off and sits in play instead of going to hand. Like Yuumi does in LoL
That's how it should have been yea
Sounds like a buff to me. Drawing multiple of the same attach units is bad and redundant as you could see Swim suffering from. This change would eliminate that and give you a free summon (body) to delay longer so you can pull off a combo again, if not use that very summoned unit as an attach target instead of having to waste mana and pass more initiative summoning another unit to be the catalyst for the combo. In other words, you'd increase the mana efficiency and speed of the deck, and I'm not sure if that's a good idea. The weakness of attach is that of any combo deck: Being swarmed, requires setup, can be easily disrupted (when it is, it's pretty much game over, unlike burn), and it's slow. For most good decks, it's easy to disrupt the attach gameplan in some sufficient way. You don't even need to kill the unit, just delay it a turn before you close out the game or force it to block.
Play attach decks and you'll realize it's not as godly as people think it is. You're pretty vulnerable the entire time and you're using your nexus health as a means to set up combos that could potentially get disrupted easily and set you back to step 1.
If anything, it'd be better to nerf some of the attach cards or remove certain interactions. For example, idk if the Mask Mother interaction should remain because it's not the base unit that's giving itself elusive (Mask Mother's true target since it doesn't kill the attached unit), it's the attach unit giving it to it. It's likely an unintended inconsistency bc it's not the same with the Minimorph interaction, where it doesn't even interact with the attach unit, but it def does affect the catalyst because that's it's intended target. Mask Mother should be the same, only affect the catalyst and ignore the attach. Probably easier said than it is to code though. It's a matter of ironing out the new mechanic. Another change would prob be removing the modifiers the attach units currently retain... Like Field Promotion lol
Are they really going to change it? There have been way more disgusting things in this game before.
I think making it lose its buffed stats/keywords would help reduce power creep
@@SuperLotus then what will be the point of playing it?
"GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT" - Senna
This deck might be trash, but in my heart, it's a fucking masterpiece
I just started the yt channel playing LOR please try to see if you like it
It is a masterpiece, just not in the competitive sense of the word
I've been playing both of your attached decks for the past day, and I can say that is the most fun that I have had so far playing LOR 😂
I literally cackle every time I mask mother a librarian with rainbow fish.
That Senna died for Swim's sins
dude, that emote exchange at 24:30 was too funny
this kinda seems like another toxic elusive deck with extra steps kekw
This is the most entertaining LoR video of all time
this and his bingo series imo
''notoriously favored to the side of uh... shadow isles combo mask mother umm'' lmao
Combo is the best archetype and im glad swim loves it too.
Lmao, he didn't learn his lesson after the first mini morph!!
53:35 So good at the game
That 12 damage turn 4 made me sick, but it was the atrocity top deck that made me vomit.
EDIT: Senna taking the bullet from top deck aloof holy shit
eh, iceborn poros did that better, but over multiple units rather than one so less disruption options
Atrocity should be a multi-region bandle spell.
If that happens, players will RIOT....yeah, bad joke i know
Does atrocity still deal the damage and not kill the unit if it has spell shield? When I saw the owl cats it made me think of this, and I have no idea how it would shake out
Spell shield doesn't affect ally spells.
Atrocity doesn't do damage if the unit didn't died or died before it's effect triggered.
spellsheild only effects opponents spells and skills
the last game
you should play quick quil to block on 2nd turn or pick flower child
Unfortunately I don't think there was any way to beat that Gnar opener with a bad hand + bad second manifest rng. =(
Flower Child could've blocked 4 damage, but that would've meant no Elusive, so Swim has no way of winning.
Naked Quill would've blocked 2 damage, but then Mega Gnar would've just killed the librarian instead of going for lethal and the game's over anyway.
The other pure defence lines (like Atrocity-ing the Mega Gnar or chumping with naked attach units) would've left Swim with no way of winning.
WTF HE ACTUALLY YU-GI-OH'D ON THE SECOND GAME
If LoR was Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Bandle City would be Joseph Joestar because of all the asspulls it has lmao
So attach units is a play unit but not summoned?
This is what hand buff archetype in ionia since beta
Another COPIUM deck, i see.
I been playing far demacia actually pretty strong
Akshan + discounted attach units when?
I hate the BM you did first game
Encroaching shadows is all im saying
Dude went from 8-0 to 8-0!
talking about RNG the second game is good
Beach board + Gloomtooth is 5head
I feel like all "attach" interactions should be kept, the recall, the permanent buffs, etc
But just nerf Rainbowfish!
Quick Quill, Yuumi and Papercraft Dragon are perfectly fine, *barely* playable without Fae aid or Gleaming Lantern...
But Rainbowfish? Its broken in an unfun way... they should probably make it a 0/2 or something, increasing the mana cost probably won't do anything (since they get discounted anyway)
Please Riot... don't nerf attach, just nerf Rainbowfish. Don't ruin such a fun mechanic :'(
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hey atrocity, what's up? haha
I already seen this deck idea from day 1 of the expansion so i don’t think you’re the first.
You didn't put my game in the video 😒
thanks, I hate it
riot should nerf swim instead
Reverse attach
Man... and I thought I was edgey and unique by going attach ephemerals + mask mother... goodbye ego
This is such a stupid game now, how did we end up here?
When you pronounce "islander" as "aylandır" :|
Ngl the deck ideas r fun but I just dont watch these videos. Please edit the “nothing is happening” parts out. Swim and grapp r equally skilled but I just never watch these videos cuz theyre basically just raw videos