Fender Jazz Bass | 1969 vs 2019
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2019
- How much of a difference do 50 years make? To find out I compared my beloved '69 with a brandnew 2019 model from the professional series. Shoutout to Thomann for letting me do this.
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I love that 69 sound, but I'd love to hear them played with the same brand of strings. Strings make a huge difference in sound.
Unfortunately in this case you can try ANY strings on both instrument, the new one always will be 2000$ cheaper minimum, than the 69 version...
Peter Szuna I bought my 62 jazz for $750 at a pawnshop. You just have to look around.
@@jacquesstrapp3219 What year did you buy it?
1983?
there's no "69 sound" here. Both sound harsh and digital! u need your ears checked.
beatlesrgear I bought one in 1979 for $500. The one I have now I bought in 2012 after the first one got ripped off by meth heads.
The sound difference can be attributed to the strings
That raspy '69....*chef's kiss*. That's the ONE!!
Absolutely a personal decision. Both sounds great, but for me, the sound of the 69 cames from heaven.
I like the '69 better because it's sound is more my thing, and I think it would sit better in a mix. But I'm VERY impressed with the new one. Really sounds great.
Put the same strings on it for more fair comparison.
yeah, this is kinda pointless. And we have lots of posers who won't even notice the difference on a true blind test.
the 2019 is impressive, but the growl of the 69 is where its at. thanks for actually playing cool riffs the same on both. proper review here
I owned and played a Jazz Bass for many years 'back in the day' and there are a few recordings of my work in bands and on sessions. I loved that guitar and should never have sold it even when times were hard. I started with a Gibson semi acoustic bass but never really liked it and I actually swapped it with the bass player in another band. No bass plays like an early Jazz and this was especially helpful in getting session work as you could double down the bass line to give that unique deep sound but with a 'clicky' top accentuation. Hiwatt built all the amps for the band I was in (the guy was building 'Sound City' marque amps at the time) and so mine was built to match the guitar and I played it through 1, 2 or 4 Hiwatt bass speakers depending on the session / gig.
Mine had a fast action neck and I think it was a '64 / '65 in Sunburst. And no I never removed the finger block.
Thanks for bringing back so many great memories.
The ‘69 JB there is a polyurethane finish. By the end of ‘68 and after experimenting with a poly/nitro mix, all Fender instruments had full poly finishes…and gone was Leo’s beloved thin nitro finishes.
I'm glad there are old Fenders, the new ones are completely digital, synthetic. I have a 73 model Fender jazz bass and its value is priceless.❤
The difference is pretty much due to the difference between the DR and Fender strings.
The pickups are also different. The '69 are more hot.
Just got a 2019 MIM Geddy Lee model yesterday and could hear the similarity’s between the 2019 American standard. New factory Stings
I think you will hear the difference -big difference- with the same strings, unfortunately... or show me a 2000$ magic string set...
He didn't use identical new strings on both basses? Tha'ts idiotic.
Gregg Leventhal
I don’t understand comparison videos that don’t have new strings of the exact same brand and model on each bass, and unfortunately that’s most of them. Strings make a big difference and a lot of people act like it’s a minor thing
I own an American Professional Jazz Bass , I absolutely love it ! While my Dad still owns his original 76 Jazz bass . Both sound similar yet very different in many ways .
they pretty much sound identical, if the new JB had the DR strings it would have been 100% exact
Still Great, and props to your channel..Ove rocks!
I liked the 2019. Mostly because it has more definition, so you can shape the sound as you wish.
1969 all day long. Sounds AMAZING.
the neck binding and block inlays are so nice on the '69.
I had a honor to play 69 jazz bass on few gigs in -71 -73. There was a big band rehearsing in same place as our band and the bassist was a kind person who loved to see young musicians starting their career. I always remember his kindness, my six member working class family wasn't wealthy. Same goes with the organ player, he loaned his Selmer amp and cab to many gigs.
..love it when you yak..gives me a chance to read the comments, while I'm waiting for you to play something!
Oh man this guy made me laugh (thanks you I needed one) They also make guitars? You are VERY entertaining and those are beautiful basses brother.
Great to hear both of them in true sound . I own a 79 P Bass and am a true lover of Fender Bass . The Vintage one would be my choice everytime and love how Fender always keeps the original set up through the ages . That's why they are the best maker of Basses
Love the 69 over the 2019 but strings make a huge difference
yea, Fender strings arent really top of the line, like DR's or Rotosounds
The 1969 bass may be better, but it's also thousands of dollars more.
You pay for originality and individuality. Back in Leo Fender years, every guitar was made by hand and by one craftsman from start to finish, and not 1 sounded like the other, these days they are CNC cut and assembled by many, and they all sound the same.
@chrisw Amen, I played a lot of the late sixties to late 70's Fender basses & there were more than a fair share of dogs, some of them were to be quite frank rubbish, that's why a lot of players swapped over to MusicMan & Japanese basses, the build quality was far superior. Funny to see those same basses going for silly money, while Stingrays, Arias Ibanez & Yamahas are still a great deal.
@@steveellis6090 incorrect. Each bass sounds and feels different even if its a production line instrument.
I love the definition and "tone cleanliness" that the new model delivers.
The 1969 has a lot more punch most clearly on display in the tone-off riffing.
The 69 sounds alive, articulate...
Hey Ove! That's a great video! I have a hard time chosing between the two. They both sound huge, yet the old one is more beautiful. Do you find the old one having better harmonics, as they say?
Great video!!
Great video man
both sound great !!
Great video.
I would like to jump into a time machine to 2069 and play the 2019 Jazz and see if it sounds as good as the 1969 Jazz does now.
Nowadays Fender has nothing link to the original Leo's instruments. Never can be compared.
I miss you, Ove.
I had a 1969 Jazz Bass - I bought it new and eventually I sold it because I had 2 basses and I only needed one. I sold it for $400 with a Fender case. Needless to say I'm still kicking myself.
I've done exactly the same, my friend, for exactly $400. Let's kick ourselves together...
Thanks for the video, Ove. The secret is in your hands. No matter how old is your bass.
I'm amazed Thomann managed to send that bass over to you without it getting damaged. Almost I everything I ever bought from them was DOA or shipping damaged
In the tone at zero neck peck up comparison, the new one sounded better, but everything else '69 was the winner. 69 heheh
I'd go for the '69, it just has that nostalgic crispy and yet balanced tone.
I'm going to modify my current Squier 60's Classic Vibe JB, by switching to Bartolini pickups and a pickup cover and finish
it up with DR Hi Beam strings. Can't wait how that turns out..
Would be interesting to hear how they sound in the mix. I could imagine that the new one with the pronounced higher mids comes through a little better. So for live the new one for me - for recordings the old one
Difference is tremendous...! Thanks, great vid... ! road worn would be interesting comparison...
i love RW series, each electric i have tried feels so much better than anything else...! i am sure the nitro / less finish combo works wonders.... i am also a fan of Gibson worn series...same reason...
and wood breathing effect is surely more obvious in bass context than electric guitar, which is so much dependent on peripherals...
wow man what is that riff you played at around 7:50 i could seriously sample that , or replay it and make an amazing beat. ill keep you posted on that
i had a 68 jazz bass.... wish i still had it..... : (
Hands down. There is no comparison. The 1969, just has it. The low-end growl. The increased articulation. The depth of the tonality. The resonance of the instrument. All, there.
The 2019 version, sounds, more like a disappointment. It lacks, in just about every area. Still… I wouldn't turn one down. Though, I think a better pair of pickups would be in order. But I'm not necessarily sold. I've heard better from an Ibanez.
I listened to this with good headphones and to me the 69 sounded much more open an lively. The Professional was nice too of course but sounded much more compressed.
Great video. My pet theory on why vintage Fenders sound better is the wood they used were from older trees (older before being cut down) and due to conservation concerns they can no longer do that and just use younger trees (at the time they are cut) what do you think?
50 years does make a difference.
For studio use, I would use the '69.
For live use, the '19, mostly because I wouldn't take the '69 out of the studio for security reasons.
Both sound great, BUT the '69 is cleaner, punchier, and has the Mojo. :-)
P.S. I kinda wish the strings had been exactly the same [Apples to Apples] on both basses. IMO, there is is difference in sound between the DR and Fender strings.
Having said that, I would probably still choose the '69.
Hypothetically, it would be interesting to hear what the 2019 bass sounds like in 50 years.
Curious if you played the solid rosewood neck professional Jazz Bass and thoughts on that in comparison
Hi, great job! I suspect the Pickup height position was different at both instruments?
Dunno, TBH, I liked the sound of the new one. Seemed smoother. I did a blind test (watching this video I mean).
At 8:28 there is text in the middle of the screen that says "Titel" for a fraction of a second.
Thanks Ove for sharing this interesting comparison. Heaaring both basses in direct comparison, I'd choose the '69er. I think it sounds a bit warmer and more interesting. But who shall afford it?:)
Liked both basses the new has a sharper sound for slap bass but the 69 sounds so smooth as well however the look of that 69 is so awesome
Nitro + Age = Wonderful, wonderful sound!
I own a '68 Jazz all original, except for the frets that I removed the day after seeing a Weather Report concert in Rome and hearing the great Jaco playing a bass that looked like mine... True story.
I love this guy😄
the 1969 has more punch but the 2019 sounds brighter so idk its a personal thing
Please show us how to use the finger rest, mounted on the pickguard just below the G string. I never saw anyone using this... Thank you!
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Dumb question but is this a made in USA bass? Also, the finger rest is there for players who like to use a pick which I don't btw.
Cool video ove =)
Am I the only one who likes 2019 one more ? It has a clearer fingerstyle tone and nicer slap sound (almost like an active bass) while vintage one has more growl and more dynamic range.
I like them both. I would pick '19 for my use. Sound wider than 69 one. 69 sounds really warm yet bass and works as it is. But if for more modern sound using effects, it would be the 19 one. Both are good enough to go anytime anyways :)
Interesting comparison. Thanx Owe!
I had been looking for a good Jazz Bass for some years, too and had the same thoughts about that vintage vs. new decision.
Unfortunately I couldn't find a perfect Jazz Bass for me. Either it didn't feel or sound right to me (Mexico, USA Standard, Special...) or it was way too expensive (Custom Shop) and not worth the amount of money. In the end I decided to build my own one from parts: Allparts vintage neck, Fender USA body, Nordstrand Pickups, Gotoh Hardware...
It looks quite similar to the custom shop Geddy Lee signature model with vintage 70's all maple neck and alder body finished in black. It cost me about 1200 € and I'm pretty happy with it.
IMO it stings out at least most of the standard Fender USA models by far.
69 got more punch, bass and a crunchy sound. 2019 got a modern sound (which I don’t like).
I like the 69... More because it sounds more beautiful ..I'm a keyboard player but the sound is very different.. I'd go for the older one... But of course it's more expensive..duh.. ..
Thanks for the video.
I really liked that 7:14 bassline.
A 6 minute introduction? C'mon man...
More than half the video hahaha.
Yeah I'm like PLUG IT IN ALREADY, lol
no shit....more bass less bs
They all do this. Get right to it please
Glad I read your comment before getting into the video. I got as far as what strings he was using on which bass and then jumped over the rest straight to the playing.
69, my year of birth so I'm gonna go with that, plus it sounds a whole lot more warm and mellowed in.
You should have exactly the same strings on each. DR’s are gonna sound way better than Fender strings.
where do I find a wintage jazz bass like you describe?
I'd love to see you compare a Pre-CBS J Bass with these two basses. Years ago, pre-CBS P and J Bass were the coveted models and there was a real perceived quality lowering once CBS bought out Fender. I had a 62 P-Bass and there isn't a day that goes by that I wish I had Never sold it. Your thoughts ???
The 2019 have a clear ,deeper tone , I think it is better , but the feeling of the seveties is amazing
The new pickups are overwound compared to the late 60s early 70s pickups
This is a good rundown of 2 exceptional Jazz Basses. I'm definitely a Rock N Roll style/Heavy Metal bassist who takes influences from the 1970-very very early 1990s. Yet I clean all my instruments thoroughly and keep them in protective cases. I'm a clean Rocker lol. That being said I'm mainly a Precision job kBass man but in this case I would be more than satisfied with the American Modern Pro series or even one of the cheaper Fender Jazz Basses not displayed or demoed on this video. There wasn't anything about that 1969 classic that said it's worth over twice the money. Beautiful collectors piece and fantastic tone though.
Unless I missed it, he did not mention a very important tonal feature difference between the 2 (at least according to Leo)...string through body bridge on the 2019, hardtail bridge on the '69...I think Fender American Jazz started that in '94...the only "Vintage" Fender basses with that design are the original P Bass & the '68-78 Telecaster bass.
I'll take the 69 any day but I know the 2019 with some extra eq it can sound very close.
The older Fenders definately have something the newer ones don't, and to this day I can't quite figure out what exactly it is.
I have a black - actually - no, it's super dark green that looks black - 1960 Jazz bass body that is battered, which has the 3 knob control panel mod, along with the Bad Ass bridge [both of which everybody seemed to be doing back in the day] and even though it has a really old well worn de-fretted Schecter copy of a Fender neck on it, well... it just sounds so right.
My newer Fender Jazz [1982??] which is a sunburst, with stacked pots and the stock bridge while sounding really really good, there's still something about the old one I like better.
This is a good video, as I'm always interested in these kinds of comparisons.
Maybe it's just as simple as the older the instruments get, the better they sound - but I do believe that more care went into the electronics back in the 1960s, 1970s... and that I think as one commenter mentioned - the bodies were I think slightly larger.
There is a definate difference, it's just hard to put my finger on exactly what it is.
The 69 sounds more shinning for me... and I Love it.
I couldn't afford a '60s vintage Jazz so I bought a new one (American Standard), back in '95. Now it's a quarter of a century old and beginning to feel played in. I wonder how it compares with a 2020 model.
To me the 2019 doesn't sound bad at all.
I think the heavier bridge and the pickups add some of that clarity that makes it sound more modern. Some of the warmth and growl of the '69 comes without a doubt from the aged wood and years of playing though.
I'm a big fan of the Nordstrand NJ vintage pickups. They have that characteristic low midrange grind of the original 60s Fender pickups. I'm pretty sure the 2019 comes closer to the '69 with them. If you want your JB to sound more vintage, I definitely recommend to give them a try.
69 is best sound....Crazy Bass man
listened/watched in my studio with very good speakers. Wow! The 1969 is so much nicer in every example.
Hey Men, was see you video and the Winner was the 69... I've a question, do you know korean jazz bass? I need to know your comment about him...
Hi Roman, unfortunately I have no experience with Korean Fenders. As far as I know they built some instruments there end 80s, early 90s. Might be interesting to check.
Thanks the 2019 has the new Vmods
Pickups worth a mention
I had a 67. My 1st bass. I never could get the neck straight. Hated the sound. Ditched it for a 63 Rickenbacker. Played it til it started coming apart. Tried a myriad of others. Got a Carvin BB 75 and have it still after 20+ years. Just put together a Jazz with Bartolini pups. Love them both.
That ‘69 has a beautiful growl to it, while the Pro sounded more modern (no pun intended). Now I actually do want a ‘60s Jazz…
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The sound difference can be attributed to the strings
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The 69 is older yes, the Wood ages and does make a difference in any instrument, usually for the better in older ones.
You should compare the Mexican made Fender Jazz Bass. The Geddy Lee model. I do like the big square fretboard markers too.
I like the '69. Love those original pickups.
Hi guys! In my opinion it´s in fact the position of the bridge PU that makes a real difference. As Ove told it, there was a slight difference of maybe 2 or 3 inches after 74 towards the bridge and that I guess makes a real difference to all the other J-Fenders. I once had a Jazz Bass from 1971 and sold it because in some way didn´t sound like I hoped it would. So, a couple of years ago I bought one of the 74 American Vintage series (no ash wood!, but...)and since then I play it in every session I take part and I love it. I ALWAYS play it with both pick ups and alter only the amount of peresence to influence the sound. THAT´s what a Jazz Bass should sound like! It can play Rock´n Roll, Funk, Blues and even Hard´n Heavy without changing any settings neither amp or bass, really! And the real difference makes the bridge PU after 74. Meanwhile that Vintage Series` price increased really significantly and I know the reason, why!! ;)
yeah the bridge pick up makes quite a significant tone difference. I guess my way of describing it is more pokey XD
Does the '69 have old strings on it? The comparison can't be made if they are not as new as the 2019.
I find the tone in the ampro to be warmer, like it was in the early 60's and I dunno, I get the vibe that fender was going for that. I love the tone in these new professionals! But, one thing you can't convey, is the feel, and I'm not sure the feeling in the vintage can be described. They have a story of tone and history to tell, and you can feel it when you play them. I, however, cannot afford one!!! So I got the American Professional in CAR, and it is the best instrument I have ever owned. Well done to Fender.
I've been a bass player over 30 years, and I stand by this. The 1969 has a warmth and roundness that the 2019 doesn't have. Cosmetically the 69 is more pleasing (blocks vs dots). The 69 pickups have a beautiful aging tonality to the (as well as the other parts of the electronics) that the '19 doesn't
Fender got it right decades ago when they built the Jazz ( and P Bass prior). Their updated doesn't have the soul of the original. Heck even the series name changes affect quality. You don't fix what was never broken.
69 any time and all the time!
Let the Am Pro be 2 yers old and I will growl so well!
it happened with my 2017 Am Pro Precision
Mine is a 2015. Mine sounds closer to the 69. That being said, I prefer the sound of that 2019. It sounds snappy and crisp.
I have 2 Jazzes, an original Ocean Blue 69 and a natural heavier ash 73. both a bit different, both a lot more preferable to any of the more recent ones I've played, even with the same strings (Roto Swing 66s). The pick ups on the old ones are just that bit more crisp, that bit hotter...whether that's to do with differences in the machinery used to assemble and wind them, then and now, or the exact formulation of wire, poles, potting - I really can't say, but I suspect it's in there.
nice comparison. The 69 sounds fuller, but you can dial-in the same tone from the 2019. Apple and oranges, the 69 will be the more sought after just because its vintage and who doesn't love block inlays. For the price of either one you could get a squire VM or parts build one for half the amount
The V-mods of the Am. Pro. sleep if compared to the pickups in the '69 bass !
Nice one Ove! I will post on my FB page. Greetings, Raoul
Thanks Raoul!
Sounds like the 1969 has more on the top, and a bit more clarity with both pickups and the tone fully on, and the 2019 is just a bit warmer, and more round. Both sound very nice. With such a significant price difference, for me, it wouldn't seem worth it to shell out that much more for the 1969. That sounds like something that someone who is more of a collector would do.
Would be interesting to compare your '69 with a '60's or 70"s Vintage Reissue ;-)
I'm not a kind of person who claims that older instruments sound somehow better, which is not true at all. Newer instruments have a better, more balanced sound. But the rarity, looks, even history of the older instrument makes me want to have it. There are many 2019s, but only a few of 1969s.
I've got a new Fender Professional Jazz and I would DEFINITELY prefer an original late 60s, early 70s version but there are a lot of not-so-good examples out there. If anything happened to my bass I'd just get another one - annoying but the next one off the production line will be just as good. I'd be devastated to lose a vintage instrument. So... I'm happy with my '17 Pro ... for now!
The 2019 is more a 'modern' sound to it and, I would have liked to hear the 1969 with flatts on her. ... Way back when I owned a 68 J-bass and I now own an all original 1974. ...
Thanks.
both sound modern ! not great.