Flattening an endgrain cutting board safely

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
    @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  8 місяців тому +5

    I sell these through my Etsy page now! newmanspecials.etsy.com/listing/1646706556

    • @tristengammon7844
      @tristengammon7844 7 місяців тому +3

      Do you have a video how you made the jig?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому

      @@tristengammon7844 not this one, sorry!

    • @tristengammon7844
      @tristengammon7844 7 місяців тому +1

      How do I get one ?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому

      @@tristengammon7844 I’m actually completely sold out. I have had an extremely large number of sales and orders recently. I made a form to give emails for relisting notifications
      forms.gle/Ym8yyC19hm4bhpSv7

    • @DezRAT1990
      @DezRAT1990 6 місяців тому +1

      I need that bad.....just put my 1st cutting board together and had hesitation on running it thru my planer...glad I saw your video.

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess Рік тому +135

    I send endgrain cutting boards through my DeWalt 735 all the time with ZERO issues. Plain knives not a helical head. Two things 1) you need a carriage that backs the board w a sacrificial strip so the end of the cutting board doesn’t tear out and 2) take tiny cuts at slow speed. And change knives often- they’re cheap.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +25

      Yep - I said a few other times, I had it go right once. Then the “incident” occurred. And I never want that to happen again. So I use this and it take about 10 minutes to do both sides

    • @jeffbuller6708
      @jeffbuller6708 11 місяців тому +7

      I came to say the same thing. Glue a sacrificial on and take tiny passes. The router sled is great if it won't fit through the planer.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому +12

      @@jeffbuller6708 like I said - I’d rather do this and know it will be successful than do that extra bit and hope. This is just easier for me. Thanks though

    • @jeremyfugarino7901
      @jeremyfugarino7901 11 місяців тому +2

      I was just thinking the same thing. Dewalt seems to work just fine. Just have to take very light passes

    • @MiaTheDobermann
      @MiaTheDobermann 11 місяців тому

      ​@@jeremyfugarino7901router for the win

  • @detroutspinners9933
    @detroutspinners9933 Рік тому +5

    You sir, are a genius! I’ve made router sleds before and had bad results, but this took me 10 minutes to knock up and gave me better results than a planer. Had to come back just to say thanks for the idea!

  • @jd5997
    @jd5997 10 місяців тому +3

    You should do the first pass on one side, then first pass in the other side. With how you show it technically may not be directly vertical, could have a slight lean to it.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      I’ll be squirting it up on the table saw, so I’m not really worried about it, but you are correct that it might happen!

  • @lhtsnakes1
    @lhtsnakes1 Рік тому +4

    I have never heard of not being able to put an end grain board through the planer. That's interesting and I'll have to consider that. Only ever made edge grain boards.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому

      Yeah, it is ugly when it goes bad! I’m actually selling these jigs through a company called weCNCthat

  • @michaelleas
    @michaelleas Рік тому +30

    I used this video to build this jig, just not adjustable, and it worked perfectly! Only took about 10 minutes to build. Thank you for this idea

  • @dbnoho
    @dbnoho 11 місяців тому +2

    This is a great idea. If you don’t have money for a drum sander. And you don’t have 20 bored hours to orbit sand. I have a belt sander. Cheap from harbor freight. Then I have a couple belts, 60 grit to 320grit. And in 20 minutes of just sending the board back and forth across the top. Smooth board.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому +2

      Nice - that’s definitely a solid way to do it! It’s more work than I want to do, and I know how bad I am at keeping belt sanders flat, but it’s all about what works for you!

  • @dagwood1327
    @dagwood1327 11 місяців тому +3

    I use a planer for end grain cutting boards all the time. I do glue on a waste piece of wood that is long grain. After planning I cut the waste piece off. All that to say this. I like your trim router sled.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      Thanks man - I’ve just never had success sending them through the planer and, I’ll be honest, I just don’t like the extra work of gluing that piece on and then having to cut it back off. I hate wasting pieces of wood. 😂

    • @mummsthaword1111
      @mummsthaword1111 11 місяців тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodworkthis looks like much more extra work than gluing an extra piece on

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      @@mummsthaword1111 except that I don’t have to wait and then plane it. I just unclamp it and go. 🤷‍♂️ But we will all do what we are most comfortable with

    • @mummsthaword1111
      @mummsthaword1111 11 місяців тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork you add the sacrificial board when your clamp up the last glue up. Waiting the same amount of time then.

  • @zososldier
    @zososldier 9 місяців тому +1

    I have sent dozens of end grain cutting boards through a planer. None have blown up.
    Just glue some side grain sacrificial boards to the front and the back and take shallow cuts.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  9 місяців тому

      The shallow passes didn’t work for me. I’ll stick with this, since it does. Thanks

  • @jameswalsh4056
    @jameswalsh4056 9 місяців тому +1

    When your piece has uneven dried glue material on both sides you need a carriage or some sort of support underneath as you plane or router your first side. You have to make the rough underside "square to the table" with wedges/supports or you will remove more material than necessary from first side.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  9 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely! Unless your piece is relatively flat, this is always a good idea!

  • @TomaCreationBois
    @TomaCreationBois 7 місяців тому +1

    Amazing jig right there.i already did and used one just like yours and it works wonders.

  • @skullandbadbones
    @skullandbadbones 11 місяців тому +1

    If you clean up your squeeze out then wipe it down with a wet rag you can put it in a planer.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому +1

      The glue has nothing to do with the planer. It’s the end grain and the strength of the wood

  • @dylanhunter8613
    @dylanhunter8613 5 місяців тому +1

    Chamfer the back edge with a hand plane and send it through normal planer. It works fine

  • @wayneprice6918
    @wayneprice6918 4 місяці тому +1

    Could you set up a jig for a power plane? Makita or DeWalt

  • @mummsthaword1111
    @mummsthaword1111 11 місяців тому +4

    Sent all my end grain cutting boards through the planer. No issues.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      As I’ve said several times on here - I am very happy for you. Most people I know have not been so lucky.

    • @mummsthaword1111
      @mummsthaword1111 11 місяців тому

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodworkwell you’re the one who said you can’t do it. What did you expect?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      @@mummsthaword1111 about what?

    • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 10 місяців тому

      He's selling the jig. Obviously he wants to make money, so of course he'll say the planer doesn't work.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому +1

      @@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 I made it for a reason. Feel free to Google end grain and planer and see what the results of that search yield. I made this because of the issues with it and a company approached me about a year later about making it and selling it for me

  • @danmurphy7338
    @danmurphy7338 8 місяців тому +1

    What kind of woods did you use on there please. Looks cool

  • @G2Gltd
    @G2Gltd 8 місяців тому +1

    My first approach would be figuring what I have to do to run it through a planer. 😂

  • @benius42
    @benius42 4 місяці тому +1

    Never had a problem and I’ve made dozens of end grain boards. Super light passes

  • @John.T.
    @John.T. 10 місяців тому +7

    You can put it through the planer
    Just only remove a max of 1/16” at a time.
    If it’s really hard wood or really fibrous, then only remove a 1/32” at a time.
    It takes a while - however it’s way easier and very consistent.

  • @woodworkingandepoxy643
    @woodworkingandepoxy643 Рік тому +6

    You absolutely can send an end grain board through a planer just take small passes

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому

      Yep. I was successful doing it once. And then I wasn’t and I never want to have that experience again!

  • @TK-mj9rd
    @TK-mj9rd 9 місяців тому +1

    what kind of bit are you using on your router?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  9 місяців тому

      I used to use a cheap one from Amazon but then I got one from Amana and love it. It’s about $35. Here’s the name of it
      Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit

  • @beermonkey18271
    @beermonkey18271 7 місяців тому +1

    such a great tutorial 👏

  • @Toorealprod47
    @Toorealprod47 10 місяців тому +1

    Is sanding it with low grit paper not an option ?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      It is, but it will take forever. Especially since you’ll have to move back up grits. The best option, if you don’t have a drum sander, is a belt sander, which spits out lots of dust and may leave gouges

    • @Toorealprod47
      @Toorealprod47 10 місяців тому

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I agree

  • @orion7741
    @orion7741 Рік тому +5

    Just put it through the planer. Save yourself a hassle and time of all the router nonsense. You can put end grain boards like whats in your video through a planer with ZERO problems. Not sure what youre doing that causes problems, but whatever it is, its obviously wrong. 100% user error.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому

      😂😂 right, cause I’m the ONLY person who has experienced the planer explosion. It’s pretty common. You must be the chosen one since you’ve never even heard of it

  • @pecantreedesign
    @pecantreedesign 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice technique 👍

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I love this thing

    • @pecantreedesign
      @pecantreedesign 10 місяців тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I've been wanting to attempt an end grain cutting board, and this will definitely go on the homework list

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      @@pecantreedesign it makes it so much easier and it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than other options!

  • @TeamProsperity
    @TeamProsperity 10 місяців тому +1

    Very nice simple flatting sled ✅

  • @pofoe
    @pofoe Рік тому +1

    The word you was looking for is parallel not squared

  • @jjdwnbyci
    @jjdwnbyci 5 місяців тому +1

    Instead of flipping all your strips one way ...flip every other one in other direction for a nicer finished pattern

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  5 місяців тому +1

      I do that sometimes! I didn’t want to on this one though, thanks!

  • @vilhelmswoodworking8847
    @vilhelmswoodworking8847 7 місяців тому +1

    What bit do you use

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому

      I started using this one from tools today and it has been amazing!
      Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit

  • @garybednarz
    @garybednarz 7 місяців тому

    I'm surprised you don't get a bit of breakout on the edge from time to time, especially with the deeper cut. I guess you're keeping it shallow over all.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому

      Not shallow, but not super deep either. I usually take a pass to flatten and a shallow one to clean up. But I also haven’t trimmed the sides yet and they will get a roundover. Doing both of those will clean up the sides as well.

  • @markgigiel2722
    @markgigiel2722 10 місяців тому

    Made my lungs hurt.

  • @rhess10
    @rhess10 Рік тому +4

    What do you mean when you say:
    "...to the table."

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +2

      The sled rides on the table so you are flattening the piece relative to the table

    • @speedsd2202
      @speedsd2202 Рік тому +3


      Only if you have flat table.

  • @aztecwarrior9729
    @aztecwarrior9729 10 місяців тому +1

    That's cool.

  • @yomamma6756
    @yomamma6756 10 місяців тому +1

    That is gangster g

  • @cedrics1220
    @cedrics1220 Рік тому +1

    Is there any way to do it with hand tools? I messed up my board thinking I could plane end grain and cant find a way to properly flatten it since I dont own any electric tools aside from a hand Drill

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому

      You could try a hand plane but it will be able the same. You could do it with a belt sander, but that will be a ton of work too!

    • @cedrics1220
      @cedrics1220 Рік тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork a hand plane created this mess in the First place and since I git pits in there due to the plane, I don't think sanding will work because I don't know how to get IT perfectly flat

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +1

      @@cedrics1220 yeah, hand planing, and grain is something that you’re going to need to have very sharp planes with. Get yourself a trim router and this set up and it’s easy. It’s my best advice for you. Sorry.

  • @calvinyelm589
    @calvinyelm589 4 місяці тому +1

    I use my cnc😊

  • @thkatandi
    @thkatandi 11 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic!

  • @GreenSaxon
    @GreenSaxon 2 місяці тому +1

    Very nice

  • @Mars-zgblbl
    @Mars-zgblbl 10 місяців тому +1

    Fun fact: block planes are so named because they are made to plane end grain on butcher blocks

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      Fun fact - flattening this with a block plane would take you around forever.

    • @Mars-zgblbl
      @Mars-zgblbl 10 місяців тому

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork It’s like 5 minutes. I’ve done it.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      @@Mars-zgblbl 😂😂 there is not a person alive that could use a block plane to clean up a 17x14 end grain board in 5 minutes. 😂😂

  • @Drewdayz2419
    @Drewdayz2419 8 місяців тому +1

    Why a end grain cutting boards, I’m literally asking wouldn’t that be more unsanitary since it can soak into the grain I mean I don’t know I’m asking

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  8 місяців тому

      End grain boards are harder, so they are better for chopping and not leaving marks and getting cut out. All boards are treated with something to make them food safe and prevent growth of bacteria or molds, so proper care of the board, combined with the treatment, does not make it more or less safe!

  • @theweddingdepartment
    @theweddingdepartment 9 місяців тому +1

    I like this. I just made my first end grain board and started with the drum sander and it was too slow so I ran it through the planer. I have a shelix head and it did not explode but I think I would prefer this method.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  9 місяців тому

      It’s funny, I had a couple people on here. Tell me that the drum sander would not be too slow, but based on experience, I know how long it takes! There’s also been several who have been lucky enough to be successful with the planer, but after having it go bad, I just don’t want to experience that again! This, to me, is the best way to go

  • @donforsey9509
    @donforsey9509 4 місяці тому +1

    Can you show the bit? Or just get the widest that you can find? Asking for a friend. lol

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  4 місяці тому

      I use the
      Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit
      It’s the best one I have found for a reasonable price

  • @beefchicken
    @beefchicken Рік тому

    No hearing protection. No, you don’t have ear plugs in. I managed to stop the video at just the right time, I could see clear into your ear holes.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому

      You are right. Thank you for pointing out that I can do what I want in my shop. I appreciate you worrying about me. Sometimes I wear it sometimes I don’t.

  • @davidwuethrick9820
    @davidwuethrick9820 10 місяців тому

    the excess glue will cause problems if not addressed

  • @AlanMydland-fq2vs
    @AlanMydland-fq2vs 5 місяців тому

    i use my bridgeport mill with lots bigger table wirh a big cutter with power feed😅

  • @jimboneutron8399
    @jimboneutron8399 Рік тому +2

    I put one through a planer and yes, it did explode 😂 hurt like a mofo

  • @jay70328
    @jay70328 12 днів тому

    Now i want to go put some end grain through my planer

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  12 днів тому

      @@jay70328 go for it. Please record it happening

    • @jay70328
      @jay70328 12 днів тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I'm equal parts intrigued and terrified!

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  12 днів тому

      @@jay70328 generally speaking the heavy duty planers do OK with end grain. it is the type that most of us have that can’t handle it. It is interesting, to say the least, when it happens.

    • @jay70328
      @jay70328 12 днів тому +1

      ​@@NewmanSpecialsWoodworkoh - I'm glad you mentioned it in your video then. I thought you meant the wood fibres would explode, not the planer. Definitely not going to try that then!

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  12 днів тому

      @@jay70328 no, you were right the first time. It is the wood that will… Explode isn’t quite the right word. It vibrates inside, shatters, and pieces shoot out.

  • @sbalget
    @sbalget 5 місяців тому

    While I agree that it looks awesome, I'm not sure an endgrain board would work great. All it would take is a tiny bit too much force with a knife and you could accidentally split it along the glue seams, no?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  5 місяців тому

      No - the end grain refers to the end grain of the board being at the top and bottom, not horizontally. These are the preferred boards of millions of people and have been made forever.

  • @simonnortje9335
    @simonnortje9335 7 місяців тому

    Just take off little bits and the plainer is fine. No sooo bad.

  • @adewhite731
    @adewhite731 7 місяців тому

    Ultimately it doesn’t really matter what you thickness it with, you’re better off using any end grain board for display purposes than actually doing any meaningful cutting on it or trying to keep it hygienic.
    Let’s not pretend they’re more than a gimmick to use up your off cuts. lol

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому

      “End grain cutting boards are often considered the superior option due to their knife-friendly surface and resistance to deep cuts. However, they can be more costly due to the construction process. Edge grain cutting boards are still a wise option and can be a more affordable choice.”
      www.johnboos.com/end-grain-vs-edge-grain-cutting-boards-whats-the-difference/

    • @adewhite731
      @adewhite731 7 місяців тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      That quote is from a website trying to sell you a chopping board so they have bias, especially as they are charging more for end grain so have a vested interest in saying they are worth more.
      They also spin the end grain’s ability to “close up cuts” as a good thing, but this is exactly what makes them so unhygienic.
      Not a great citation.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому

      @@adewhite731 ok

  • @Ramdodge582
    @Ramdodge582 10 місяців тому

    what's wrong with the planner?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      The end grain is too hard for smaller machines and the piece will not be able to be planed, causing damage to the piece or the machine

    • @Ramdodge582
      @Ramdodge582 10 місяців тому

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork huh, the grizzly 13" does it just fine

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      @@Ramdodge582 does it have a helical head? Some of those are better smaller to handle it because it isn’t one large blade cutting in

    • @Ramdodge582
      @Ramdodge582 10 місяців тому

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork yeah, I'm not a caveman

  • @mitcheldoucette8268
    @mitcheldoucette8268 8 місяців тому +1

    Ever hear of a hand plane????

  • @samba2782
    @samba2782 11 місяців тому

    What the heck why did i never think of this???

  • @briansmith7627
    @briansmith7627 9 місяців тому

    A drum sander would "take a lot of time"¿¡!? Have you ever used a drum sander? You could say maybe not everyone has a drum sander, but come on now.... This is definitely way slower.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  9 місяців тому

      At 60 grit it takes 5 minutes. Then you will switch to 80 or 100 grit. Which will take 5 minutes. Or you stick to 100 grit. Which will take 15 minutes. This takes about 10-12 minutes.
      Either way - you are right that now everyone has $1400 for a drum sander.

  • @facebookmakesmesick
    @facebookmakesmesick Рік тому

    What if board has slight bow in it? My drum sander won't get it totally flat.

  • @michaelvallin55
    @michaelvallin55 3 місяці тому

    You def can send it through a plane I do it all the time.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  3 місяці тому

      The. You have been lucky

    • @michaelvallin55
      @michaelvallin55 3 місяці тому

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork Maybe I'm just better at bonding then you

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  3 місяці тому

      @@michaelvallin55 😂😂 Yeah, me and about 20 million other people who have had that issue. I guess you’re just the best ever. Here’s your medal, champ. 🥇

    • @michaelvallin55
      @michaelvallin55 3 місяці тому

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork Thanks!

  • @joshy6270
    @joshy6270 11 місяців тому +1

    My drum sander is faster and cleaner

  • @mewhoelse3554
    @mewhoelse3554 11 місяців тому

    Rigid? Really? Junk!

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      I have two of these machines. One I’ve had for five years the other one I’ve had for probably three. They’re both going strong and work great. I’ve use a couple others and what I found is they are either top-heavy or not as comfortable to hold. One of the things I really like about this machine is the on off switch at the top that is a great safety feature.

  • @daumenathlet8233
    @daumenathlet8233 11 місяців тому

    @jonaswinkler

  • @LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous
    @LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous 11 місяців тому +14

    Thats a great idea. ❤ finally a wood worker that owns normal guy tools, not the entire fest tools catalog.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Making, or buying this, is about 20x cheaper than buying a drum sander or a cast iron planer!!

    • @LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous
      @LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous 11 місяців тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I'm all about making tools for specific jobs, that is a great idea though, recently I was making a roof beams for a wishing wel/well cover, for the yard, and had to do half cuts , on my 6x6 timbers, but a skill saw wouldn't get my half way , and the chainsaw, does make a good enough cut profile, but I'll tell you what, that ole router, did the job , also used a hand saw to make a profile and parameter. Sometimes when you thinking with out your wallet, it ends up, helping you out, and other people on down the road, just like your idea.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      @@LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous that’s a great way to do it and a great way of wording it!

    • @DezRAT1990
      @DezRAT1990 6 місяців тому

      Forgot to ask, what trim bit are you using?

    • @thewoodshop69
      @thewoodshop69 2 дні тому

      What does FESTOOL have to do with anything?

  • @joepearson9704
    @joepearson9704 Рік тому +38

    do you have a link to the trim router sled build?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +13

      Not yet. It’s coming soonish

    • @joepearson9704
      @joepearson9704 Рік тому +3

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork Cool. I'll be watching.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +5

      @@joepearson9704hi - the company went live with items last week! Here is a link for the sled: wecncthat.com/product/logan-trim-router-flattening-jig-w-universial-baseplate/

    • @joepearson9704
      @joepearson9704 Рік тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork excellent. Thank you.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +2

      @@joepearson9704 glad to help!

  • @Repackrider84
    @Repackrider84 11 місяців тому +2

    Nah. Doesn’t look that great. But you did a good job.

  • @TheToolBoxWhisperer
    @TheToolBoxWhisperer Рік тому +18

    I have used a planer on all my end grain cutting boards, just go slowly and don't use a dull blade. Cool board!

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! I’ve been successful going through a planer once. And then the next time it was terrible. I never want to have that happen again! 😂 this just works for me

    • @rl4889
      @rl4889 Рік тому

      Anyone thats used a planer knows its possible and feasible for this project. Just take a tiny bit at a time.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +3

      @@rl4889 I believe i already mentioned that it is, but this is faster and easier for me at this point

  • @inspectorsteve2287
    @inspectorsteve2287 11 місяців тому +8

    I've never had a problem planning end grain cutting boards.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому +3

      Some people are lucky. Once you have it go bad you never want to experience it again

    • @PiercesPerfectPieces
      @PiercesPerfectPieces 9 місяців тому +4

      That’s what I was wondering/thinking!! 🤔
      I do it all the time after glue up & I’ve never had it "explode" on me! 🤔 🤷‍♂️

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  9 місяців тому +1

      @@PiercesPerfectPieces that’s great! It’s pretty common

    • @Vidar93
      @Vidar93 5 місяців тому

      Ive sent plenty through without issues and even have used them to fix bowed boards and what not. I had one that was just a normal maple and cherry engrain board and for some reason the planer didn't like it and it sent it flying back out the fed tray in pieces. I'm so glad I always stand to the side of the machine because it could have been really bad. What's funny is I really wasnt even pushing the machine like I had several times before. I still occasionally do it for super thin cuts to just even out a face but if it's anything major I just use a router now and am much happier for it. It takes about as long and since I have a wider jig I can actually do large format stuff just as easily.

    • @Vidar93
      @Vidar93 5 місяців тому

      ​@@PiercesPerfectPiecesI never did for the longest time and in general I took super thin cuts and was very gentle with it but there were a couple times wherebthe entire board was cupped and it took big chunks out without issue. Then one time I had a very basic maple and cherry end grain board that was just getting a super small section planed that was just barley out and about 1/3 of it exploded and shor the board and the pieces flying back out the in feed tray. I'm lucky i always sand to the side of my machine but I'm really grateful I wasn't behind it.

  • @bill4123
    @bill4123 8 місяців тому +4

    You might want to consider adding a hard stop at the ends of that jig so it's impossible during normal use for the bit to cut outside where hands might be. Nice cutting board and tips/tricks! Thanks for sharing!

  • @asoggyburger479
    @asoggyburger479 2 місяці тому +1

    Honestly this may be quicker than sending it through the planer anyway. No shimming or hot gluing to a sled and waiting for it to dry then sending through and flipping. No doubt it’s safer too, great little jig for flattening small pieces!

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  2 місяці тому +1

      @@asoggyburger479 thanks! That’s my thought- and it’s easier to store!

  • @jamesyoung4633
    @jamesyoung4633 5 місяців тому +1

    It makes both faces parallel to each other.

  • @lindashealingart
    @lindashealingart Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much I was wondering if I had to get a really huge router or if I can use a smaller one

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому

      The small one is plenty! And I’m working with a company who is now selling the flattening sled! If you go to Www.WeCNCthat.com and click on my avatar (Logan Newman) you can get one

  • @bryangeise5504
    @bryangeise5504 10 місяців тому +1

    I think you mean parallel not square

  • @Liftedwoodworking
    @Liftedwoodworking 7 місяців тому +1

    I sent my end grain cutting board through my 735 yesterday and it sent it right back to me. 😂
    What router bit are you using?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому

      It’s so ugly when it happens! I started using the Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit
      toolstoday.com/v-17673-45522.html

  • @christianreza144
    @christianreza144 10 місяців тому +1

    Im an intermediate and have never had a planer before. But thinking of getting one. Can i get an understanding of why a planer cant do this?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому +1

      It really comes down to what type of planer you get. A cast iron bed with a heavy head will be fine. Most of the lunchbox planners - like this one and smaller - lack the power to cut through the hard end grain. It will bounce around inside and pieces will break off and shoot out.

  • @controllerpleb6568
    @controllerpleb6568 10 місяців тому +1

    I am curious why you wouldn't just use a hand plane. Seems like it would be a little bit faster.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      Are you being serious? Or is that a joke? It’s hard to tell over text

  • @jonahlaird4227
    @jonahlaird4227 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a board that looks like that but it started to separate from each other in the middle. Is there any way to repair something like this?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  10 місяців тому

      The only thing to do would be to cut it down the joint and then re-glue it. It’s pretty easy to fix

  • @thedailystoner6753
    @thedailystoner6753 5 місяців тому +1

    If you put a piece of mdf or particle glued to an end you can send it throught the planer no problem

  • @jamiepeake7884
    @jamiepeake7884 9 місяців тому +1

    drum sander would really take longer? i like the sled you made and it’s a good video but why lie?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  9 місяців тому

      At 60 grit it takes 5 minutes. Then you will switch to 80 or 100 grit. Which will take 5 minutes. Or you stick to 100 grit. Which will take 15 minutes. This takes about 10-12 minutes.
      Either way - you are right that now everyone has $1400 for a drum sander.

  • @virginalax44
    @virginalax44 8 місяців тому +1

    “You know your machine you know your bits…” 😐🤨

  • @SeamlessFab
    @SeamlessFab 5 місяців тому +1

    I just surface mine on the CNC and go upstairs while it’s facing

  • @fanuvkorn85
    @fanuvkorn85 8 місяців тому +1

    I made myself something similar to this but for the life of me i cant get it consistent.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  8 місяців тому

      I'm sorry to hear that. Do you have any idea why? Does it sit flat on the table?

  • @uwishpal
    @uwishpal 11 місяців тому +2

    You can send it through the planer. Glue sacrificial boards around it like a frame. It works fine every time. As long as you aren’t taking off a ton at once.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      I’ve had a few people say that - I’ve done it but the extra work and wasted wood always irritated me. This is just easier for me at this point. Thanks

  • @YOUR_NARRATOR975
    @YOUR_NARRATOR975 10 місяців тому +1

    Couldn't you also use a Stanley no. 5 hand plane?

  • @TimKellerLinuxNinja
    @TimKellerLinuxNinja 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm watching this while looking at my cnc that has a facing feature..

  • @ManofLowMoralFiber
    @ManofLowMoralFiber 4 місяці тому +1

    Cool jig. Beats doing it with a chisel.

  • @matthewmarotta2081
    @matthewmarotta2081 2 дні тому +1

    Show what kind of bit are you using

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  День тому

      @@matthewmarotta2081 this is what I have been using and I really like it: AstraHP Coated* Whiteside 6210 Surfacing & Flattening CNC Router Bit 1/4″ Shank

  • @CyrilViXP
    @CyrilViXP 11 місяців тому +1

    Really? You can’t do it with thicknesser?😳

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      It depends on your machine. Most of the smaller benchtop machines can’t do it.

  • @connorkrueger3694
    @connorkrueger3694 8 місяців тому +1

    What type router bit are you using? The one I have tried on my router creates A LOT of tear out and then I have sand for ours then the board isn't flat anymore.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  8 місяців тому

      I was using a cheap spoilboard flattening bit ($17) from amazing but I recently switched to this one from Amana ($34) and it has been amazing. I didn’t have tear out with the old one but the cut is faster and cleaner with the new one.
      Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit
      toolstoday.com/v-17673-45522.html

    • @connorkrueger3694
      @connorkrueger3694 8 місяців тому

      Ok thank you. I have been using a bit from amazon for $18. The first board it flattened perfectly but the three after that I have nasty tear out. Any other ideas what I might be doing wrong? @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork

  • @104Woodworks
    @104Woodworks 2 місяці тому

    You can send it through a planer no problem at all, but this is also another solution if you don't have a planer 😉

  • @ARVash
    @ARVash 10 місяців тому +1

    It might be easier to use an old fashioned hand plane lol

  • @danielfridenberger799
    @danielfridenberger799 Рік тому +7

    The pores of the Red Oak makes that wood a mistake for use on a cutting boards. Eventually the will fill with nasty odors or bacteria which will be almost impossible to clean properly

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for posting that - I’m sure there re people who will need to know that. Thankfully there is no red oak in this board. This board is cherry, maple, walnut, and white oak, which is fine for cutting boards

    • @indalcecio
      @indalcecio 8 місяців тому

      Red oak is so full of tannins it'll never stink. Pores are irrelevant when you're dealing with end grain.

    • @MrFancyFingers
      @MrFancyFingers 5 місяців тому +1

      White oak is open grain too, I wouldn’t use it either.
      They use white oak for wine barrels because it breathes.

  • @Aloudcar
    @Aloudcar 7 місяців тому +1

    What type of bit did you use to trim it down with?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  7 місяців тому +1

      I started using this one and love it
      Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit

  • @paulflynn2481
    @paulflynn2481 4 місяці тому +1

    helical head planer does great job on decking the end grain. My question is, why do people use laminate trimmers beyond what the armature can handle

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  4 місяці тому

      You mean like how they are used in all the smaller CNC’s?

    • @paulflynn2481
      @paulflynn2481 4 місяці тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork yes. After 30 years in the industry we know that the technology has created better small motors. However, the duty rating for the Small routers is based entirely upon very limited rotating mass factor.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  4 місяці тому

      @@paulflynn2481 I had a dewalt trim router in one machine for 3 years. I replaced the brushes 2x. My newer machine works with a makita router. There are people I know who run it 8-10 hours a day and pulling in 3 figures a year on sales that their machine cuts for them.
      I think they have figured out the machine load at this time. Well, I don’t pretend to be a mechanical or electrical engineer, I do have the ability to listen and feel a machine as I use it. I have yet to experience an issue with the router in my jigs.

  • @IceXiao
    @IceXiao 8 місяців тому +1

    Could you find a video of a planer exploding? I totally believe you when you said it could explode, I just want to see it happen.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  8 місяців тому

      I don’t know - I’m not exactly sure that is something I want to have happen intentionally, but it is a good idea to try.

    • @IceXiao
      @IceXiao 8 місяців тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I was only able to find the aftermath of it, but never the accident in progress. So yea, maybe something cool to see for educational purposes. Anyway, thanks for the videos.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  8 місяців тому

      @@IceXiao I actually just got a new planer and might try this with the dewalt!

  • @devinredlich7011
    @devinredlich7011 11 місяців тому +1

    LoL. "You can't send it through a planer because it'll explode". This is patently false.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      Maybe an exaggeration, but not false. This is especially true with the smaller planers. I’ve had it happen and so have enough people that there are videos on it and “work arounds” to the issue.

    • @devinredlich7011
      @devinredlich7011 11 місяців тому +1

      @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork Respectfully, it's a massive exaggeration. There is a risk it could explode. I know that because it's happened to me exactly once - out of the hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of times I've put end grain boards through a DeWalt 735 planer. If you do it properly and patiently (ie. light, repeated passes), it's very, very low risk.
      Also, a planer is inherently a far safer tool than a router - so there's that.

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  11 місяців тому

      @@devinredlich7011 I have the same machine - I’ve had it go right once. The next times it did not. I have found this to be far easier and safer for me. I’ve said it a few times on here - I am honestly happy that it has worked out well for you, but I’ll stick with what has worked for me. I am not interested in having it explode apart and come flying out the ends again! Underwear is expensive

  • @SethCorbinMusic
    @SethCorbinMusic Рік тому +1

    You can plain an end grain cutting board.

  • @ronhochhalter3491
    @ronhochhalter3491 9 місяців тому

    BS, if you own a good planer ( not a lunchbox or table top planer ) you won't have problems, especially if you encase the sides. That little trim router is sketch, but sometimes you got to do the best with what you got

  • @dennygarnett9614
    @dennygarnett9614 7 місяців тому

    Oversize it by enough a o that you can can cut off your blowout which you should nomatter how you to reach finish size. This may not wrong but it is labor intensive. On you glueup you only needed to add a throwaway course. Easy peazy. Planer is still faster

  • @HaroldSears-x5c
    @HaroldSears-x5c Місяць тому +1

    Built this, works fantastic tks

  • @thewoodshop69
    @thewoodshop69 2 дні тому +1

    Doing it to the table, it's going to be square.I don't understand

  • @AlwaysBolttheBird
    @AlwaysBolttheBird 11 місяців тому +1

    Not gonna lie I thought e audio was Jimmy Diresta for a second there

  • @cgrizz33
    @cgrizz33 24 дні тому +1

    What bit do you use though?

    • @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork
      @NewmanSpecialsWoodwork  23 дні тому

      @@cgrizz33 I like the bits and bits 1” bit or the Amana 1” bit. Both are reasonably priced and do a great job

  • @eliterag
    @eliterag 6 місяців тому

    You can actually send an endgrain cutting board through the planer. All you need to do is to add a chamfer at the end of your cutting board and take light passes. This will avoid any tear out or "explosion".