MythBusters - Men vs. Women | No Pain, No Gain
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2010
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Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage reveal which gender can withstand pain better. Will women live up to their rep? - Розваги
"The average number of seconds they lasted". Seems women lasts longer in alot of things
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I saw the whole episode, they cut the vid a bit short, the outcome was: Woman who have given birth have a higher pain tolerance, man have a higher tolerance than woman who haven't given birth. The full outcome makes sense, because boy's tend to play rougher and tend to do rougher sports, so experience more pain. The scientific outcome is: The more pain you have experienced, the higher your tolerance of pain becomes.
***** women don't feel more pain; they complain more. on average studies shows men and women have equal tolerance.
+ThEwAcKySiBlInGs I don't know about the studies you revert to, but it doesn't explain why in the mythbuster - experiment women who have given birth can take more pain than woman who haven't given birth. Unless giving birth chances the amount of testosterone in women for a long time.
Men tend to have more testosterone than woman, so why did we (men) score lower than woman who have given birth. I do think it has to do with the amount of pain one has experienced.
i disagree with you, on the screaming and crying. In the army they taught us to first aid the once that weren't able to scream anymore and help the ones that still had the strength to scream second.
I heard testosterone makes you stronger
@@rodriguezsilveiro4419 I mean stronger yes but stronger doesn't necessarily mean pain tolerance.
@@your_mom_is_my_dad im not have pain tolerance and im a woman(i though so)
I just tried this. After a minute and 55 seconds, I felt like there would be irreversible damage if I kept my hand if for any longer, so I had to pull it out, but there was pain just after 7 seconds or so after I had submerged my arm in water.
I got to three minutes (I pulled out because they said it was unsafe to go longer)
Anxiety, fear, stress plays a MASSIVE role in how you can tolerate pain.
That's the reason why I hate the horror stories feminism these days make a horro show out of labor pain, because it makes them WORSE.
They actually looked at their resutls more closely and they discovered it was woman who had given birth that had a higher pain threshold.. Woman who had not given birth where a lot lower..
cool so if I got kicked in my balls I would've had a super high pain tolerance lol
maybe I'll try fracturing couple of bones and then I'll have a even higher pain tolerance after they heal
+StraightOuttaToronto tpk you can get pregnant, then get kicked in the balls. #lifeprotips
I don't actually buy that. Just because you go through one painful experience does not change your lifelong pain threshold.
actually yeah search it up
I can smell bullshit.
Inhale deeply.
100% bullshit
"Clinical studies by the journal of Psychosomatic Medicine found that "men had higher pain thresholds and tolerances and lower pain ratings than women" when exposed to cold pressor pain. The study asked participants to submerge their hands in ice water (the cold pressor pain procedure) and told members of the experimental group (as opposed to the control group) that they would be compensated financially for keeping their hand submerged." This video proves nothing. It all comes down to the individual.
There also another study that looked at pain aversion and willingness to money in order to avoid pain, that I encourage you to look at. Done by researcher daniela pasheva of Institute for Social Medicine and Health Economics, and co.
this was the abstract
"This article presents experimental evidence on forced choices between inferior alternatives. In asking subjects to make trade offs between an experimentally induced cold-pressor pain of different durations and paying money to avoid the administration of pain, we try to shed some light on the questions: (a) are there any gender differences in elicited willingness to pay (WTP) values for pain; (b) when present, is differing WTP across genders better explained by measures of risk-aversion or measures of loss-aversion; and (c) we further investigate whether there are variations in hypothetically elicited WTP values (hypothetical pain and hypothetical money) and WTP values elicited when subjects face real consequences (both real pain and real money). Our results confirmed the hypothesis of significant gender differences in elicited WTP values in both the hypothetical and real groups. We also found some evidence of significant differences due to the treatment. Subjects who experienced the cold-pressor pain only once (hypothetical group) exhibited on average greater WTP compared with subjects who experienced the cold-pressor pain multiple times (real group). Females, however, stated lower WTP in the real treatment while for males the effect was in the opposite direction. Moreover, we found risk attitudes to be significantly associated with WTP while loss-aversion not. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)(journal abstract)"
May I ask a question in the study you are speaking about were the participants expected to experience the cold pressure test only once?
And I also would like to add that the monetary rewards may not have eliminated any effects from the social conditioning perspective. While men are expected to be stoic, and non-expressive of pain, women can and are encouraged to express pain if they want to. However part of the masculine image is not only to "bare with it" but to be the breadwinner as well, so I think you should think about that as well
They were given rewards for lasting longer? So it's a game now. And we know that men are much more playful.
@@yomer355 😂😂 exactly
Thanks for saving my 1:44 minutes
Sounds like men are just more financially motivated.
I feel like they needed to test people with average or similar strength to find out who has a better pain tolerance than test randomly.
Can someone please upload the full version of this discovery?
my friends and I all decided to test this myth once.
we did a different test though. we all had a rubber band snapped on a single spot on our hand repeatedly, and the last of us standing won. adding a motivator to the challenge changes hints is what we gathered. because no one wanted to tap out.
I just have to say that was Hilarious Line "In your face Meh oh" Good job Adam
"And for our next test, Jamie will hold at your neck the Gom Jabbar...."
"I'll be darned" - with a smile on his face xD
scrolling down like hmmm how much butthurt can we pack into the top comments *sips tea*
Another word on types of pain, by the way: I can take almost all sorts of pain associated with cold (and have to some extent come to like it), and can deal with a good deal of blunt trauma, cuts and burns. But I HATE electric shock, and would probably have chickened out early if the test was about that.
''In your face men!...OH...''
THAT WAS FUN PART I WANT WATCH ALL EPISODE!!!
I did this test on myself. lasted the entire 3 minutes, could have went longer. The first 30 seconds is the worst of it. After a minute you just go numb.
I am a bit skeptical; not cause of the results, but because I know that they wouldn't be posting this video if the results showed otherwise.
Maddix Yeah me too! Fuck all those other articles by silly places like Harvard that agree with it! We know better!
+Lorisa214 Most actual scientific studies have shown that pain tolerance is either similar between genders or that men have a slight advantage.
why do you think they wouldn't have posted it?
Lorisa214 this has been debunked time and time again, idiot.
They would have because this is part of s myth busters episode on pain.and BuzzFeed pathetic 10 ppl if even that doesn't compare to this study while we only see small sample here myth busters did I think was 100 of each gender. Myth busters is in no way gender persuaded.
The video is called "MythBusters: No Pain, No Gain Aftershow" You can search for it on the discovery website.
@crazysean1218
It actually does make sense that women have a higher pain tolerance then men. I mean, come on, we go through menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth...
We gotta be able to take pain.
As a guy who had to get kicked off the test (I made it the whole 3 minutes), I can tell you that having your hand plunged into 1° water is quite unpleasant. Of course, I've been accused of liking pain, but that's beside the point.
From the name of the video I thought this was gonna be about whether you should exercise until it hurts or if you still can benefit from more moderate amounts of exercise...
They're not saying that all women have a higher tolerance than men. Of course it depends on the person. It's just that on average, women had a higher pain tolerance than men in this test.
that's me @0:14 - I never saw the clock, but had guessed I had lasted no more than 30 seconds... looks like I made a good guess!
If the researchers were cheerleaders with pigtails who do you think would win?
'In your face, men' :D :D :D That killed me :D :D
You can see some clips from the segment, and they also talk about it, in a Q&A video about the episode on the discovery website. Seems I can't link to it here.
If women can take more pain then why aren't they in the army?
+Isaiah Vincent women werent allowed to join the military in combat positions until 1948 i think... aand could go into special forces until just recently. also military test are based on physical attributes not pain tolerance.
+Isaiah Vincent however i do not believe women have better pain tolerance then men. i think if we did a study of every single person on the earth the numbers would be equal or close too it.
pain tolerance and strength are not the same tho?! lmfao
pain and strength aren't the same thing... and they can be.
Mostly because they are necessary for childbirth and you wouldn't want to send all/majority women to die in war, leaving your country unable to repopulate. That would be my uneducated guess for not sending all/majority of the womsn to fight in war. There's probably more reasons and better ones but this is what I thought of first.
I don't really think that women have a high pain tolerance like from birth. I think it's just that women typically are forced to go through a lot more pain as their life goes on so then we build up a tolerance for it. For example like with periods and pregnancy. But men aren't forced to go through those things so in order for them to build up a higher pain tolerance then they would have to go out and try to pain themselves to build up a better pain tolerance which really nobody does. That is why they have a lower pain tolerance. If that makes sense. So like if you tested little girls vs little boys then there would really be no difference because the girls haven't gone through periods and pregnancy yet. But I don't really think the pain tolerance that women build up is very significant. There really is no way to get used to horrible period cramps or pregnancy.
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thats why we punch each other all the time
that's possibly one of the dumbest things I've read
Age may make a difference
So what was the sample size and did they truly get a random sample?
This particular test was not exactly an extensive test. The only way to come up with any real result would be to test thousands of people. People are only pointing out that using such a small test group means the results are pretty much useless. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that women definitely have a higher pain tolerance...
Over generalizations is a dire pain to true science. You can't simply say women have a higher tolerance of men BECAUSE "they"(a subset of the population, in USA) tolerated cold water longer.
Yes i have felt the pain of going hungry . we use to be very poor days with out eating. Also my brothers jaw was broken he had to go 9 weeks with out eating solid food only liquids. he lost a lot of wight . Every day he said he was starving was not nice to see him go through that pain. I suffer conic migraines everyday & pain from were i lost my few ribs and the one chest muscle they had to cut off. So i do understand what pain is like everyday.
Well this has actually been scientifically studied and men do have a higher tolerance for pain. Red haired people also have a very slightly higher tolerance than others.
My first reaction was to feel ashamed of my sex.But then I told myself:Hey, if I'm able to take the pain,why should I care if these wusses can't? It's not about which sex is better, it's about individual disciplin. I can admire these women for their courage and I can hate these men for their cowardness, but what's more important is how ballzy I am, not how some dudes of my sex are (and it's the same thing for you). You should not consider it as men vs women, but as you vs other people
It kind of does matter though since men are always shitting on women for being weaker
that's me @:14! I never saw the clock, but had guessed I had lasted no more than 30 seconds... looks like I made a good guess!
if there was a woman and a man in the army and they both experienced a bullet shot I'd think a man would still have higher tolerance
+StraightOuttaToronto tpk tbh though, that's a pretty big generalization. I mean that's half the world vs the other half the world, there are so many more factors that define an individual's response. There will be some men tougher than some women tougher than some men I mean when it comes to it, we're all just people.
Moreover, why do you suppose fighting and hunting roles are traditionally male? Part of the reason is because men, being able to have more children than women, are more expendable. But another part is that men are physically bigger and stronger than women (again, on average), and so are by nature better suited to those tasks. And so men have experienced physical pain on a far more regular basis, and indeed pain tolerance has always been considered an admirable and musculin trait in a man.
what was this testing? how long someone can stand freezing cold water?...pretty cool though haha
Plus there are many other kinds of pain. Though admittedly they're a lot harder to test without risking injury to the subjects.
LOL HAHAHA "in your face me-.. oh"
What were the black blocks for that were stacked under the people's arms? Are they meant to do something to their circulation or something?
I don't get it. the show isn't even on until tonight.
Screaming can be cathartic, helping to release repressed emotions. It can also increase endorphins, which can reduce pain, increase strength, and make people feel more alert.
So it is OK to hit a woman then!
It's weak to hit a woman. 'Cause I know for damn sure if a guy were beat constantly like he beats a girl he would be begging to die. Women go through so much more than men.
You think a man faces emotional abuse like a woman? You think she likes being beat and then told "I'm sorry, I love you."? Women endure child birth. They have PERIODS. It's not just blood leaking from your vagina. It hurts like hell for them. And your examples are complete rubbish. Occupations that men have don't have a thing to do with a woman's pain tolerance. Also, get your head out of the gutter, It's 2015 and women are starting to do male jobs. Hell, Most of these mothers are single, so YES, they DO shovel the snow.
***** Looks like someone has mommy issues.
***** Both, my grand mother and my grand father fought in wars. And many scientists are females. Both genders have made sacrifices.
In your wars perhaps. We, the Amazighen, fight and construct societies side by side way before Jesus Christ.
I bet you I would own them on this test because I live in Canada
ahahah IN YOUR FACE ME--- oh XD that never fail to crack me up XD LOOL
"YOU DON'T KNOW PAIN." Ahem...sorry, silence of the lambs.
did they factor bodyfat % in forearm?
I want that dry erase board
@Gilmaris As for real life, here it an example that I lived personally. I bought a silly electric shock pen (from the Thinkgeek website). When the "victim" wants to use the pen, (s)he presses a button, and then it send a stark electric shock (instead of taking out the writing part of the pen).
I used it on a male friend, he almost killed me because of the pain.
I tried it on my girlfriend, she didn't even notice anything. The prank didn't work on her.
@TheOJDrinker Good point. Generally, however, most of that extra insulation can be found in the breasts, thighs, buttocks and hips. It's what makes us curvy.
Adam Savage: Went to school at NYU for acting, and dropped out after six months.
Jamie Hyneman: Earned a degree at Indiana University for Russian Linguistics.
Yeah, they seem really qualified to be doing a show that is supposed to be about making scientific conclusions. Bullshit.
@92ladderley This answer to this strange question is "no".
No, I never said that men should be pushed in the corner.
No, I never said that men are useless.
Before asking such questions, you should read again what I wrote. Please learn to read a text without inferring fancy stuff that don't reside in the text (I know this is hard to do, and in fact we all do that, so I can't laugh at you at all).
Maybe I could have be more precise. Women are better at dealing with pain ; in some areas it matters.
LOL at 1:40 I thought those who tampons that fell on top of the 'confirmed' sign!
Some people’s tolerance for pain is attached to the fact that they do not care about the damage to their body or are ignorance to it. Slicing my finger with a sharp razor only hurts because of my thoughts of the damage to the flesh. The actual razor cut doesn’t hurt much
*sigh* Skin color does not effect how temperature based pain you can handle. It only effects how damaging sunlight is to your skin.
No one is saying you can't tolerate pain. I don't understand why people take these tests so seriously. Men and women have their specific strengths and weaknesses.
Why am I not surprised 😏😏
Just wanted to add something for the people who keep saying 'muscle does more than fat'. Well, muscle weighs more, muscle has more nerves than fat, muscle can absorb more force because it is denser('impact' resistance), but muscle is HORRIBLE at insulating temperatures. The test is flawed because they are providing pain indirectly through cold.
"in your face men....oh" lmao
actually no women that haven't gone through birth vs men, men win cause since birth is painful they get higher pain tolerance but if we were still in the old days where men were hunters men would have higher pain tolerance. so in conclusion men naturally have higher tolerance when they are born
+StraightOuttaToronto tok because babies hunt...
+Aris Heatherington Nastyface i mean good for you for trying to use logic but that literally makes no sense.
How cold is that water?
These guys never iced their wrist or knee. I do this almost after every football game.
Although if you've hurt or strained your knee, the body sends more blood to it to help it heal faster, hence raising the temperature of the knee
@leinadw91 we had to rest our arms on the foam because under the foam was the trigger that started the timer. (I'm in the black shirt just after @0:13) - James M.
I mean all in all we really don't know who has a higher pain threshold. I have browsed through countless peer reviewed articles and it all comes down to hormonal influence and societal enculteration. Men are more likely to cover up their emotions then women because its seen as a sign of "weakness". So even if men showed less emotional distress to an injury does not mean they necessarily have a higher pain threshold. It has a lot more to do with social norms expected of each gender.
That's cap. I have little sisters that cry over the smallest amount of pain compared to me at their age.
@becomepostal Yeees, childbirth is essential. But pain tolerance in childbirth does not translate to pain tolerance in general. This is because during labour, the mother-to-be produces pain killing hormones in considerable more quantities than she does at any other time, and also which makes the vaginal canal more elastic.
When it comes to SELECTION, whether natural or sexual, men's pain tolerance has always been far more important than women's pain tolerance.
I was thinking about hot resistance competition but I forgot that women are more used to stand heat while cooking in kitchen :)
After this, there is NO way women should be complaining about the AC anymore...
@becomepostal "Contrary to popular opinion, it is very clear that women have a lower pain threshold and tolerance than men," says Roger Fillingim, PhD, a pain expert and professor of community dentistry and behavioral science at the University of Florida, in Gainesville.
So, how about that medical book?
@crazysean1218 you might be right, muscle might have something to do with it since more muscle would equal more nerves hence more pain receptors, but fat wouldnt have as many receptors
@AngryScotProductions Sooooo... a smaller object passing through a larger, more flexible canal is like a larger object passing through a smaller, less flexible canal? Does not compute.
@TheAK
Incorrect. Multiple studies prove men have a higher pain tolerance and these were studies done with the icebucket, which is about endurance over a long period of time. Childbirth gives women endorphins.
(...cont.)
3. The categories were only crossreferenced in so far as it supported the desired conclusion (there was no gender-specification among the red-heads, but the natural child birth category was used to influence the gender category).
4. The most important and obvious factor, age, was never even considered.
5. Only one type of pain was considered, and some have higher tolerance to that specific type of pain than others (influenced by a lot of things, including diet).
dude that one guy who only lasted 20 sec. probly messed up all the results anyways xD
What's so wrong with a certain gender having an average higher resistance to pain? Why wouldn't it be possible to happen? Sure, it depends on the person but there can be an average comparison. Don't tell me men aren't taller than women on average.
The test should have been athlete men vs moms.
@Koyzo11 Yes it does. The pain sensed here is the result of chemicals released from damaged cells. These cells are damaged by the cold temperature. Fat insulates these cells causing them to not change temperature as fast. Muscle would not do this as muscle is below the nerves in the lower layers of the skin. Fat surrounds them. Therefore, the fat would insulate the cells around the nerves delaying the release of these chemicals.
If women are so tough, how come they cant win any endurance running competition? Thats like the worst pain imaginable!
BUSTEEED
i have lost all feelings in my hands due to caffeine addiction
We did this in our biology class for 5mins
you failed at editing women that went thro child birth was the one who gave women the numbers. Women that dint was around 70.6 or something like that
kliksphilip deleted his comment ):
What was the comment? Don't leave us in suspense for 5 months.
@@MrJabez89 "Steve obviously brought down the men's score a fair bit :P"
also women tend to have a less good blood circulation so when testing a pain threshold via cold i think that women would experience a greater pain from a shorter time thus showing that their threshold is even higher than 100 to 85(men)
So what woman must Last less.
Back when they still advertised the show :(
i love that: IN YOUR FACE MA... huh?!!
So you don't need men, because you have the technology created by men? Gr8 b8 m8, I didn't hesit8 to r8 it 8.8.
It seems you couldn’t take the _pain_ of loosing
I mean... Frequency hopping, windshield wipers, package parachute, first photography of a DNA double helix, first computer program, do I need to go on... Many inventions and technologies were created by and with the help of women who often weren't credited for what they achieved, or their Inventions were published by men, willingly or unwillingly, because they weren't allowed to publish them themselves.
i do agree with you... but i do remember reading a research that women have a higher tolerance with pain, because women have to go through giving birth to babies. although yeah i do think that many people have different tolerance to pain.
Tolerance and threshold are different and men have higher pain threshold. Pain tolerance is cultural that can be different from person’s environment and suffering.
@HomeworkHelper1 More likely, but not 100% likely. There are still steps they can take and if they're careful can probably avoid them or at least catch them early enough that it's not really a problem.
Methinks that they shouldn't have had a 3 minute limit for the test, or any limit for that matter.
I'm pretty sure I've read that women have higher pain thresholds than men, but men can generally withstand that threshold for a longer time.
they did several studies and concluded that women feel more pain then men, men can withstand alot more pain then women. It makes sense, for thousands of years men where the ones doing all the work, women stayed home and cared for the young while men did all the work, we risked our lives hunting ferocious animals providing food for all the women, we were the ones travelling huge distances and crossing oceans to explore and concur. We are stronger, tougher and smarter then women.
@Koyzo11 That may or may not be true, but kidney stones are also a lot less common and are completely avoidable if you have the right diet. Child birth is also completely avoidable, but that is a lot less compelling for a variety of reasons, which I'm sure are obvious, so therefore women still have a biological reason to have a higher pain tolerance.
Well, you can't really get a complete, real.. Answer. Pain depends on a lot of things, including genetics, fat, etc. etc. etc. VSauce - very nice channel.
@xiaohawk ME TOO! Does anyone know what its called. Its not fully a smartboard and googling "Dry erase scrolling whiteboard" returned nothing relevant.
why cant i see other ppls comments?
adam: i your face m... oh... lol.
Okay what exact physiological difference makes someone with a Celt and an Indian resistant to temp based pain, because none of the physiological differences you listed affects that.
Update! After reading all the comments, I have to say, I don't see the whole logic with the childbirth thing. You give birth, so you're automatically tougher? It doesn't make any sense.
Childbirth is very painful so as a result, women develop a higher tolerance for pain. if you have given birth you would be more used to pain
furzle1552 I think birth and everything else is a different area entirely. If birth is how you are comparing it, then from everything I've heard, no woman on the planet should be hurt by anything after giving birth. As you get injured, you develop a pain tolerance, the less you are hurt, the less that tolerance is. Btw the "If you have given birth you would be more used to pain" Not true, unless that birth was on a regular basis.
RIGHT? i mean by that logic theyd be able to take a slap to the face yet when u look at domestic violence stories the woman gets slapped once and falls down crying in a corner
For all the people arguing that this test is flawed because skin color affects how much temp based pain you feel. Since the majority of the test subjects in both groups have the same skin color and only one subject in each group has a significant difference in skin color this test is still valid, although admittedly not for every race of people.
There wasn’t any sort of control. The subjects knew what they were doing. The list of reasons this could skew the results are a mile long.
As for pain that kills, no it doesn't, but shock can kill. Pain can bring about shock, but this is hardly relevant to the discussion. When women die in labour, it is primarily because of haemmorhaging, infections or cardiac arrest. The two first have nothing at all to do with pain tolerance, and the third only in conjunction with shock.
Obviously an evolutionary adaption to the pain of childbirth.