Bel'veth Mid is surprisingly strong (But she is difficult for me) | Off-Meta Climb | 13.18
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- How come my Bel'veth does so much less damage than enemy Bel'veth
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If you're wondering why I think she is strong Mid, it's cuz every patch when I look through stats websites at niche mids with high winrates, she is always on top.
lolalytics.com/lol/belveth/build/?lane=middle
Think it's really fitting that a champion who's dashes let her zig and zag back and forth ends up piloted by live action zigzagoon.
i dont think pekin knows what the word "Detrimental" means
Unless he means detrimental to the enemy team, but considering he never says that he probably thinks it means something else
I spent most of the video trying to guess what word he meant. I settled on either fundamental or maybe essential or crucial.
@@tristanridley1601I'm PRETTY sure it's supposed to be INSTRUMENTAL
@@speakerforthedead2 @tristanridley1601 I thought he was going for beneficial, but hey, as long as we know what he meant, then language win, amirite? 🙂
Maybe he thought it's from "determine"? So it determines how the fight goes, it's still wrong but maybe that's the thought process.
Her R form is not "detrimental", it's "vital". Detrimental means bad, not important
i think pekin was goin for more a "pivotal" angle but its hard saying what word he was getting it confused with either way mistakes happen and now he can increase his vocabulary by two words!
Michael Scott moment. As an ADHD person, I can't even make fun of him for getting words wrong (and I wouldn't if I could).
he's a fool
@@daytona-x7b the fool is the one that never tries to expand their vocabulary getting words wrong has happened to everyone and is a part of learning
Yeah but is it like a lux laser?
I love how this came after the Lux mid game when that Bel’veth was going nuts
I like the way he said 'Well played, Yone,' because it sounded like he resented having to do so 😊
The thing that makes her damage feel weak early is her passive. In the hidden text, all damage expressed through on-hit (such as her AD, and actual on-hit effects) is only at 75% effectiveness. Once she breaks the attack speed cap, that's about when she can make up for that 25% loss of damage.
Between the lulu and the ivern we got the whole standup comedy routine on the rift
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo Montoya
33:46 The pure contempt in that "wp Yone" is brutal
Finally.
Do invades. You need to snowball. She has insane gank set-up too. Play with your jungler. Be there for objectives. Your ultimate is what you play her for.
Your lvl 1 is insane. Amongst the best in the game. You have 4 activations of an ability. lvl 3 is big spike too.
Don't forget that your e gives you lifesteal.
Mommy Bel' is the best.
I dont know the psychological explanation for this but I saw so many times Pekin say the opposite word for what he's trying to say, I'm curious why that happens
I bet I have a tumor that hasn't been found yet
@PekinWoof nah thats autism lol
Hey Pekin! Been loving this series! I would love to see you play another Rek’Sai mid game, if possible! Much love, keep up the stellar videos!
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"This guy is like... somewhere" Philosophical Pekin hits hard.
mid is a very short lane and belveths dashes allow her to get halfway across and then halfway back extremely quickly, making her maybe both have good opportunities and simultaneously quite safe? idk if thats why shes good mid (also lots of mid laners are kinda bursty or have mana and she can deal with both easily)
Detrimental: The Game
the W trade build is a lot more fun with AP belveth. 125% AP ratio. if you pick up lich and nashors her autos arent bad either, and lich applies on her Q
Pekin after his team almost gets 1v5’d by enemy bel’veth on main channel:
🥺👉👈 is for me?
Form is essential you mean?
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Don’t forget you can use e early in lane to hit low creeps and get a lot of regen! Just make sure the creeps are low first and you heal a ton!
The Ivern and Lulu competition for Mejai's stacks was really cute
I played Bel’Vethy in lane so much when she came out, and I also never felt the damage past level 2. Then it came back with items if I got fed. She’s a weird laner
you need bork or kraken for the damage and black cleaver is solid as well
legend has it pekin says detrimental in his sleep
Pekin if you want variety streaming as an option you should start building your audience now!
You’ll only carry over a portion of your current viewers at first but you’ll build an audience over time. Maybe having one day a week to stream variety?
Problem with belveth in lane is she only gets attack speed stacks from the cannon. Whereas in the jungle you get 1 per camp I believe. And your e scales with attack speed. As does your Q cooldown
its not nothing but honestly i feel like the infinite attack speed scaling is kind of a bait its really just another early lead ez snowball lane champ
@@rattusgrenadus8291 she gets 5 stacks from kills as well so she snowballs in that way
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I have a question. I notice that in both of the videos you played her, you were against katarina. Is that on purpose? Do you not play belveth against other matchups? I’m trying to find a niche pick in case my champ is banned or picked, and bel seems fun to me, but idk how viable she is against other champs.
i would cry if someone pointed out every time i did or said something incorrectly 😭 plz leave him alone
30:16 looked like Lux lazor
@PekinWoof one question i just watched your career Video do you want to go pro again, if one team asked you? Or is this over?
did y ou pick her bc kat is kind of a free lane early on? or do you think she's playable into many other melee's or do I just not understand her benefits?
this seems like something I could have fun playing, just trying to figure out when I can play it in my own games without full griefing
Katarina seems like a considerably easy match up for bel'veth, so maybe start using bel'veth against kats
@@dooddoingstufffrom what I can tell Bel is pretty good into any assassin if you have a good understanding of how to use E and Q to avoid their burst then trade back
I play a lot of belveth mid and it is very fun. level 1 is just so nuts against most champs
You had to make a vid after that Veth dominated the zigzagoon
love your videos pekin!!! do you have a stream song playlist by any chance?
Who need sleep when pekin upload right before your 18 hour awake
The reason you have no damage is that you built no on-hit. Really just needed BORK and maybe throw in the other on-hit it suggested. Also, Iceborn is okay but if you're in the entire team something like that on-use healing or even the on use-slow item is good enough.
Although pure on-hit is kind of advanced as you're squishy so I wouldn't use the new Rageblade without having tank stats elsewhere unless you know you can snowball and not die.
Also for the love of god use Shojin if you're getting kited because of high cooldowns.
P.S. You can get stacks by simply damaging a cannon or jungle camp as long as it dies by a teammate, or not in the case of cannons, within a certain timeframe similar to Kindred.
why did you go for W max over Q max?
Laning power and I think he was looking at highest WR bel mid builds
your use of detrimental was confusing me lol
Pekin's vocabulary is detrimental to the quality of his content.
this vid was very detrimental! 10/10
Detrimental means harmful or hindering.
The adjective you need is beneficial / paramount / crucial.
Why is there a voice saying "Michael" at 2:34??????
Fun fact, you only have to dmg the cannon or camp, don’t need the kill to get a stack.
I love playing Belveth mid vs Katarina, such a fun match-up
19:45 You literally have a full tank item so if you were able to still assassinate a Viego that has R up to escape then that would honestly be more concerning
i always wanted to learn belveth, but the champ just doesn’t feel good to play, build her bruiser she still feels squishy and does no damage, build her DPS she’s the squishiest champ in the game after her E is down, terrible team fighter, I just don’t like how she feels
Same
Pekin using detrimental wrong is kinda adorable
lulu's escapes were the highlight of this vid
She is one of the coolest champs imo! And i was thinking of making her my champion.. But the title scares me! and then you said you tried making videos of you playing her and had a misreable experiances.... If you have problem with her, then im fucked lol! Tried her in aram once, and i was mashing buttons and somehow i had fun! But aram is totally different i know
Yayyy new video
Why w max?
Waiting for that Vel"Kaz mid CDR game. ILY Pekky
as soon as pekin missused a word I knew the redditors would comment at full force
brother man thats not what "detrimental" means, did you mean fundemental, crucial, essential?
The hatred shown to this lulu during the whole game could fill a stadium.
Edited due to spelling mistake.
I wanted pekin to win this game just so she could win as well. Fuck that bard.
Bruh what is hateness? Did you mean hatred? Or hatefulness?
@@_zajlock_6635 I guess it would be hatred, but this this is weird, I thought that hateness was a word, even the google translator took it well (I searched for it before typing the comment because it was a bit weird for me too XD).
Please play Brand apc/bottomlaner if you get autofilled!! Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I feel so bad at Bel Veth. I dont understand how some people do so much damage with her.
Autoing in between every q crucial. You have faster attack speed for 2 autos after any ability. You can stack conq fast. If you have cds up still I'd look to just auto once though since more dps. Q-auto-Q-auto-W-auto-Q-auto-E at level 3 outrades just about every champ in the game. Her level 3 is insane.
@@tylermclean6352is it only at level 3 or is she strong 1-3?
@@lcintra_ its her lever 3, as you start with q which does help but won't do incredible damage and her w which is at level 2 is just cc and q reset without much damage, but with her E that does execution damage, and the healing it provides, that's where you really outrade most champs. Just be careful if you use her to save your E as long as you can in the fight, as it reduces damge taken by 70%, deals more damage the lower health the enemy is, and heals you.
lets get some AP cho again bro. nice relaxing AP cho.
im actually confused when you wanted to build titanic 😂😂😂
I love how I paused the video to read the comments after the grammar mistake and the top comment checks out AYAYA
you do no dmg bc 1. you dont have many stacks since u are mid. 2. because you built tanky and most belveth just go hard in dmg.
Why aren't I doing any damage? While also having medicore damage items lol
yes! more AA champs!
bel'pog
It’s all about the Bel supp
Good Pekin
Nice vid
Sivir Mid would be cool to see
Detrimental
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6:58 ???
Test test, could not comment on another video. wanted to make sure it works.
detrimental
W Max…?
He played my belveth so bad... need to play more aggressively and use e to heal.
Suprisingly strong? I think the word "suprisingly" needs a second assessment. No champion with an ability that gives 70% damage reduction and 20% lifesteal(on top of any of her own existing lifesteal), which attacks the lowest hp target _at least_ 6 times(+1 attack that scales with bonus atk spd), deals execute damage to boot, compounding the healing from lifesteal for 1.5 seconds on a max cooldown of 24 seconds, which for some reason goes down to an 18 second cd. 6 attacks *minimum* in 1.5 seconds is insane, regardless of it lowering on hit efficacy(not lifesteal though🤪). That level of damage, tankiness, and healing is insane, and you get off damage so quick and there's no channel animation whatsoever that cc-ing her is no where near reliable.
Her E has an ult level of impact, she can dash 4 times on 4 separate cds, she of course needs an aoe knockup, she has infinite scaling in attack speed, she has siege power after taking objectives with her voidlings, and worst of all is that she's a manaless champion meaning her itemization, resource management, and healthiness is completely uninhibited.
What _is_ surprising is that riot thinks they don't make champions with overloaded kits, *not* whether this almagamation of bullshit is strong in the mid lane.
hey pekin
Onward we climb, day 138 of asking Pekin to play full attack speed ahri for the off-meta climb!!!!
offmeta ≠ trash
Pretty sure he has a video playing ad ahri. Not sure if its for the off meta climb though
@@Philastan It's not, he's shown ad ahri works, and in my personal experience on hit/attack speed ahri is just as viable (although less consistent) and much more fun.
@@B0mbo-h7x Yeah he's played both lethality and crit, I'm asking for attack speed/on hit though :)
Pekin open stream pls 😢
Bel with out BORK is pretty meh imho
Why in the world would you max W first? Lmao
Never buy hydra. Tiamat - botrk - mythic - titanic - sterak.
detrimental
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adjective
causing detriment, as loss or injury; damaging; harmful.
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This champ is sooo out of place in league... Idk what they thought, when creating the model.
pls play seraphine 🥺🥺🥺 please 🥺🥺🥺
please enter the pokeball
Oof tanky build. Ofc u do no dmg
Clueless