Sudan's Coup: How the Military Took Over Sudan - TLDR News
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Sudan was taken over by a coup yesterday, the second since 2019 and Africa's 4th this year. So in this video we go back through the countries history and unpack how Sudan got to this point and why there's no easy route forward for the nation in turmoil.
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Thank you TLDR for once again talking about subjects that don't often make top headlines, and explaining the context rather than the traditional media just showing some random protest footage without much more info.
That said, good luck to the Sudanese people...
Yeah I noticed they have reporters from countries all around the globe as well. Seemed to have found a niche in Geo-Political news. Just right of centre I’d say but as Independent as you can get in today’s world of hyper-partisan journalism. Well done TLDR👏🏼🖖
Although I was wondering, is TLDR a play on words from TL;DR (Too long didn’t read) or does it stand for something official sounding? Either way😂
@@TheBlueCopperrrX It's a play on words, they're essentially making the research and giving us the TL;DR that comes from it.
@@TheBlueCopperrrX They are definetely non partisan, but I don't see their right leaning side, I think it's just your bias, since you're right wing yourself
@karl joshua Gabriel what has communists to do with anything mentioned here are you just trying to throw them here to have a circle jerk or what?
Damn, I love how high quality this independent news source is
Noticed they have reporters from countries all around the globe as well. Seemed to have found a niche in Geo-Political news. Just right of centre I’d say but as Independent as you can get in today’s world of hyper-partisan journalism. Well done Guys👏🏼🖖
They're biased as hell without admitting it and make several mistakes on every video.
@@Merle1987 mistakes are expected. They arent paid as much as other news sources
@@Merle1987 Can you give an example?
@@jeffsterling2809 the mistakes are minor, but some recent ones are basic spelling mistakes and using the UN flag instead of NATO. They are a great source, if a little sloppy on the old editing floor
Great report, but claiming this could be an “end to stability in the horn of africa” is a bit of a misleading statement due to the currently raging civil war in Ethiopia
Somalia doesn't exactly have their shit together either
There’s always Djibouti
Yeah I was about to say, not much stability to end
I love asian message parlors ❣ ❤ 💓 💕
Not to mention Somalia, which basially has been a failed state for decades
I’ve never been interesting in such topics and politics. Until I found this channel. TLDR singlehandedly changing my character
It's a good channel at providing half the story. Let most Leftists, TLDR does not like to acknowledge negative realities.
Then there was that little incident in 2011 when half the country seceded and formed South Sudan. Not really worth mentioning though, I guess . . .
More like a third, but yes I see what you mean.
@PT And then every surrounding state will invade former Sudan under the claim that the tribes want them to. Who will represent the tribes?
@@Whydoyoureadme Which surrounding states are you talking about? Civil-warring Ethiopia? Same faith Egypt? Broke/desert Chad? Isolationist Eritrea? The even more broke South Sudan? I can't imagine.
@@Whydoyoureadme which one? every state surrounding sudan is broke
@@Whydoyoureadme thats how life works the weak dont last long
Sudan: Execute Order 66.
It shall be done my general
master Skywalker , there is too many of them
so order 9066 by FDR
Good soldiers follow orders
I spent a month in Sudan and it's super sad to see this happening. Everybody was hoping things were changing for the better. Looks like it's one step forward, two steps back
At what time
Haven't been to Sudan in nearly 10 years and was hoping to visit my home country soon again...guess that's not happening for a while.
This is usually the part in a kid's cartoon where all the other characters band together to throw you a country X themed party. Some "You can't go to X, so we'll bring X to you!" type nonsense.
I think we'll be skipping this episode.
It appears two coups make a sudan
*table slapping sound*
Ba dum
*Hits head against a wall
sam o'nella
Two coups one Sudan xd
Is that a Sam O'nella reference?
Why exactly would this be demonetised? It's a good, honest informative video. Quite hard to believe you'd get punished for that 🤔
Because UA-cam doesn't care about the quality of the video, but rather on the themes of the topics. Heavy hitting topics like war, death, suicide etc. are often instantly flagged and demonetized, because UA-cam likes family-friendly topics a lot more since you can have better advertisements on them/more companies buying adspace etc
I just feel like they're making it seem as if they're at fault. They're a profit driven company.
His wrong infos should he demontized
I saw a protest about the military coup yesterday and wanted to know more about the event. Thank you so much for this analysis!
Oh come, on... Sixteen coups is unstable? Look at the number of Italian prime ministers! :D
China and France: did someone say coup
Or Australian prime ministers
just leaving a comment to say i appreciate your channel, top notch.
You summed up all that happened very clearly and truthful
Myannmar: I tip my hat to you one legend to another
"This is the 4th military coup Africa has had this year and the second in Sudan since 2019. It could also mean the end of political stability in the horn of Africa."
What stability?
I don't know maybe you want to look up the last Ethiopian civil war the one were Eritrea was still part of Ethiopia and Somalia invaded the eastern third only to be beaten by a combined force of Ethiopian soviets Cuban and Yemenis and that had a total death count of over a million without having a population any near as big at is today and that still was so insane it cause Somalia to have a population increase by 25% which indirectly lead to the current civil war in that country and also the Djibouti civil war and the Ethiopian Eritrean border war Eritrean Sudan/Djibouti border wars so it is calm right now if you compare to how out of control a region this can be depending on how you define the region it can have up to 233 million people so yeah it can be so much worse.
Horn of Africa? Sudan isn’t in the Horn of Africa
informative and efficient as always
Awesome videos as always, hopefully it doesn't get demonitized.
Thanks for this I had no idea this was going on!
South Sudan's looking like that one happy airplane meme
They are also at civil war
How would south sudan being happy when they rely on sudan for transmitting their oil producfion to port sudan
Great video!
Very good video! Sad Sudan's government is no longer in charge though
With the people in the streets , it may come back. What lessons is learned that milktary in Sudan always fall back to the people
1.2 Trillion usd debt sounds a bit unrealistic to say the least i am pretty sure you meant billion as noone would have lent that kind of money to sudan of all places plus that would be 4 times the greek national debt
And on June 28, 2021, the Executive Boards of the IMF and World Bank approved debt relief for Sudan under this initiative-immediately reducing the country's debt from about US$56 billion to US$28 billion
There are some countries, like Sudan, which just really need to somehow redraw their borders, which I'm aware is no small task but would definitely be worth it.
colonialism fucked up a lot of borders. The next thing to fuck up borders was creation of Yugoslavia, then USSR republics fun times (Karabakh, Bessarabia, Abkhazia, Crimea... all source of constant conflict in last 30 years)
@@pineapplethief4418 I think its a sign saying multiculturalism never works every single rich country either has a majority ethnic group or there is one group that is dominant over the others like Whites in America. in Europe indigenous ethnic groups developed nationalism and created the nation sate vs the medieval loyalty to king identity. France never had a stable democratic government until the mid 1945. It took Napoleon and his grandson to make France democratic.
How can Sudan have to redraw its bordes when it surrounded with poorer countries . Its better to blame external factors lik the gulf then putting it on Sudan
@@covfefe1787 What you say is wrong. If multiculturalism is a problem than America would have been divided a long long time ago.
Let me tell you something, When the British ruled Egypt and Sudan, the British made borders that didn't make sense, Britain gave Egypt 25% of Sudans land. By that time Ancient borders were very relevant but Britain ignored that and gave Egypt more land.
My country has suffered a lot. If i may ask what you mean by 'redrawing borders??? If what you mean is to divide the Country into smaller countries I am COMPLETELY GOING TO DISAGREE with you. We are the 67 great tribes of the Ancient Empire, we are one.
You getting buffed my dude
At this point, I'll be more surprised at an election happening in Africa then a military coup.
Such a cliché
Zambia had an election where the incumbent lost this year :)
I don't know if you are joking but 13 African countries are having elections this year. You watch those. They are streamed on UA-cam if you can't find them in Mainstream western media.
@@mark-yn8po
He's one of the ignorant ones
Reminds me of Myanmar...
Thanks tldr
Everyone: Another coup?!
USA: I swear it wasn't me this time.
uk france russia and china sweating profusely.
@@abdiabdi3225 yeah, wonder which one if them was it this time
I had to watch an ad before this. So not demonetized.
Thanks
Well rip the 2 coups make a Sudan joke
I see you're a man of culture as well
Damn it! Someone beat me to it
Heh
Can you explain the joke pls.
@@rohankishibe8259 It's from a video by Sam O'nella.
I love the quality of these videos, it’s always on point and in a neutral position.
Btw, would y’all be able to make another video on how Europe is being affected by merkel’s departure and how they are preparing? I am making a research paper and I would love to have an extra resource
A coup in Africa? How depressingly normal 😔
Pretty much normal case for the dictator to be extremely evil and then get replaced by a military junta that is... also extremely evil. So it goes
Bring in colonial British rule. That'll sort things out.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 that was a while back and the Sudanese are currently in control of their own country
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 i would rather live in a military dictatorship than live in a british colony in africa.
@@atakinpowa I say we give the British another try. Because 16 coups in 70 years is the definition of insanity; repeating things expecting a different result.
Plus the UK has no balls anymore so they're bound to be hyper nice out of liberal guilt.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 that won't sort anything. Back when Britain coloniesed parts of Africa ideas of nationalism were not even present in Africa. The development of individual tribal identity mixed with a religion is a problem that blocks any ideas of national unity. British colonial rule would just do more harm
Another normal day in Africa
Thank you for your talk but we as Sudanese are adamant to make it happen and remain positive, we’ve lost precious souls for it and expecting to loose more to build the Sudan all Sudanese deserve
i thank you for your summary on my country latest crisis i hope you make a more in depth video about Omar albasheer and the so called religious war he committed against the people of south Sudan
Can't we just go back to the dynasty of Nubia or Kush?
And rule the world again
I woke up and saw this
Finally a nuanced, contextual coverage instead of left vs right.
How do you make a left vs right narrative about Sudan?
@@snare5903 Left:1971 coup should have succeeded?
Right: the whole Sudan should have remained under Egypt?
Makes me sick with worry
he is your typical bad guy dictator no wonder this happen
At this rate the whole stability of Africa could be in crisis. Nigeria, Ethiopia, Chad, Mali, Uganda, Libya, and others are verging on crisis and the collapse could make the Syrian refugee crisis look like a pilgrimage.
I was just watching 'Machine Gun Preacher' (2011) too. Wow.
(American biker gang member becomes Ugandan & Sudanese freedom fighter. True story film came out the year South Sudan became the world's newest country.)
I was expecting a Sudan pin badge ad
Do a video on Bangladesh and its government and economy.
You know what they say, two coups make sudan
This is the problem when the president / civilian leader didn't held power or at least have allies on the military side.
Also it is sad that this happen to Sudan 😢
We all know military wasnt going to let go when they signed the power sharing agreement
What's going on in South Sudan? Could we get a video on that?
Two coupes make a Sudan.
Am I the only one that hears the narrator's voice go into AutoTune mode every so often?
What are the other african coups? Do a video about coups in general
Neat
1:54 Military junta ( it's a spanish word so the J is a H)
A good example of the curse of colonial era pseudo-borders in Africa. Even as it is Sudan could/should be broken up into at least three countries...
@PT Pre colonial Africa was as much of a feuding shit show as 1500 century Europe. Especially in the German and Italian speaking areas: countless petty states all fighting each other in an unending series of wars. The pseudo borders in Europe created a lot of similar issues during the same time periods. Yugoslavia anyone? Ireland?
@PT very fair counterpoint, although that did not stop the Germans or Italians from fighting among each other for centuries. But when unified the infighting stopped. I guess consider Spain with Basques and Catalan separatists as a somewhat closer analogue.
@PT There was no cultural cohesion. The divisions still lasted after unifications.
@PT According to who? Your ass?
@PT No, your ass.
Commenting for the algorithm
Aah shit, here we go again
Well this was Sudan
Is there any way to stabilise this situation without international intervention?
you could pressure them with economic punishments, that might work, but probably not. Really we can just wait for them to solve this on their own. Look at europe they needed 2 world wars to become stable democracies.
There is, It is crime against humanity, through.
You may have gotten demonitized, but you got a sub. Silver lining? Lol
south sudan's hat
7th Coup in Sudan since Independence
doesnt sudan have untapped oil?
they were around 4th to 6th in oil production
Was**
4:41 that's basically the 90% of countries if not actually all of them. but to be honest that's what democracy is for.
0:02 Man, it is so pathetic on UA-cam’s part that they demonetize good videos like this one😞.
It happened all of a Sudan
I hope Sudan return to democracy
Thank You !
I'm from Sudan, the people are still fighting for their rights.
much of what you've said is highlighted very well
the prime minister was kidnapped with his wife
killing by the Janjaweed in the streets
Aside from the part of the national debt
everything is correct
under PM Hamdok Sudan is the first country to adopt secularism in the Arab World
Securing rights for Women
A healthcare insurance ..etc.
the military has its own companies and continue to smuggles gold to UAE and Russia
Thank You and please HELP advocating for the people rights !!!
I wonder how you have access to the internet, considering what the video has said. Nevertheless, best of luck to you all, hope everything gets better soon.
@@guilhermeferrao5968 Internet has been restored rn
+like many diaspora rn still have contact with family and some friends, albeit it's difficult to reach them
No thing can stop the people, back then in 2019 Al Bashir did the something, we communicated with papers, spread words neighborhood to neighborhood
As an Israeli, may I ask you what's your opinion about Sudan's joining to UAE, Bahrain & Morocco normalization with Israel?
Is there any option for peace between our 2 nations?
@@SabaRaba1913 I see no problem personally with peace .
However if Israel sided with the military's coup, I'll not hesitated to refuse any chance to denounce any possible peace with Israel.
Mind you btw (this is the same military who choose to support Islamist Hamas under Bashir rule)
So I doubt Israel is going to recognize the coup, already Western power refused to recognize the coup too.
@@basharabdelkarim9548 The restoration of the internet is good news. I like seeing your people remains strong of will. Much respect for you.
Noticed you guys have reporters from countries all around the globe as well. Seemed to have found a niche in Geo-Political news. Just right of centre I’d say but as Independent as you can get in today’s world of hyper-partisan journalism. Well done👏🏼🖖
They aint center, they became like visual politik
July 2023, y even bother?, just say your ruling for life
sup lads
Sudanese person here, I love the fact that you shined light on this but there is some inaccuracies:
1- 2019: it actually started it Sep/2018, peaceful protests in conjunction with civil disobedience paralyzed the economy until 2019, all the that time unarmed protesters were shot, arrested and tortured in secret safe houses etc. Al Bashirs government pretended to topple their leader but it was just a change of faces, after that seeing international pressure the janjaweed and Al Burhan took the chance to seize power expecting civilians will simply hand them power, que the random protester shootings (there's a Hasan Minhaj Patriot Act episode on this). Then when they ran out of patience they stormed the biggest sit-in protests (it was Infront of the Military HQ since Early 2019), this is when Janjaweed consolidated their power with Burhan. Full lockdown, no internet and shoot on sight orders for about a month, people still resisted which taught the military that the Sudanese people will not hand them power no matter what, then the political games started.
2- Saying that the country has been in ethnic infighting is massively inaccurate. Al Bashirs regime committed genocides not only in Darfur (west) but also in the South and East, this lead to the formation of rebel militias, some of which used to be allied with Al Bashir. Al Bashir would constantly promise them power but once they are done with their genocide he would pull his offer. Saying oh it's just ethnic infighting is extremely inaccurate. It's a regime that scarred the nation with it's ethnic genocides, civilians aren't out here killing each other over tribes and skin color, it's military group against military group and some with good reason (see above genocides).
3- FFC infighting: This is half true and half propaganda pushed by the gulf at the request of Burhan (they want him to lead because he gives them military aid and assists them in their own corruption). FFC isn't a group of "Pro democracy gangs", it started as the representative of every single citizen of Sudan whose against Al Bashirs regime. The "infighting" is political differences because like I said "EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN", there's so many political leanings in my country and the FCC was formed as a shared concept of my people being done with military dictators. So it was understood that they should allow other newly established factions in and it should be a mixturt of different political views all working towards a fair election and transition into a civilian government chosen by the people as a whole including those previously marginalized ethnic groups.
I do understand that it's easy to just dismiss these things and just say "Oh it's Africa, oh Africa and your coups, so chaotic!" But please, the information is there online, Sudan has so many diasporas all over the world, there is a number of Sudanese journalists covering this from the US and Europe. If you simply go on Twitter and check the hashtags you can see footage from the ground of people being shot, beaten and the protesters chanting peacefully while blocking roads to stop military convoys from reaching neighborhoods and burning tyres to obscure the view of shooters.
For every piece of inaccurate information a Sudanese person dies, because international pressure is the only reason they haven't killed every single person in the street.
Edit: Typos
Hasn't the been like 6 coups this year
No surprise, we're already entering a cold war period
It's the ninth (attempted) coup this year, and the fourth successful coup in Africa this year (After Chad, Mali & Guinea)
@@MelchiorPhilips crazy
Sudan should just redraw their borders and split into smaller states, then come back together if possible, the west drew their borders and it clearly isn't working
@PT idk why you come here to argue when you are to lazy to just google it, it also just makes sense, why would a bunch of ethnic groups that hate each other decide to form a country together
@@KhaalixD though you are right in most parts, your last part of the statement is just plain wrong.
why would ethnic groups that hate each other form a country together?
ever heared of conquest?
or changing oppinions?
or banding together against a greater threat?
as a matter of fact it is EXTREAMLY common for countrys accross the world to have some parts of its population that... dislike... the rest. be that for ethnical, religious, traditional, economic or a thousand other reasons.
@@drizzt7dourden7 well yeah I guess that is true, hastily made statement that i'll amend
@PT tf you mean? almost all borders in africa was made because some european diplomats say so
@@anjaymenggokil Yes but also take a look at maps of pre-colonial Africa (western and horn of Africa at least, where there were centralized government) and you would see multi-ethnic states. Europeans took an already violent and volatile region (to be fair basically anywhere at the time had ethnic conflicts) and poured gasoline on it. Mali, Air, Songhai, and countless other kingdoms in western Africa and Proto-Ethiopian, Nubian, Somali, etc kingdoms in the East were just as multi-ethnic kingdoms and empires as any other region of the world. These were not tribes but states equivalent to at least Medieval Europe in social infrastructure. There were also Kingdoms and other centralized states elsewhere in Africa, but they tended to be more isolated and less documented by Western or Arab scholars (unfortunately).
I normally really like your graphical style, a few things on this one were a bit odd, the graphic where you demonstrated the years sudan has spent under democracy, and the variations of that graphic that are harder to describe, just look kinda messy, not sure i like the sl;ightly wonky not joined up circle either but thats more personal taste than that it looks bad, very minor criticism though, great video as always
Even his infos are mixed up and misleading in little details
United States: [Sniff Sniff] Do I smell profit?
coup in sudan, not surprising
the sit-in in front of republican palace orchestrated and facilitated by these junta and their allies from the previous regime and armed movements who signed the peace agreement (actually the alliance with junta agreement ) was funny as they have become a subject of ridicule and scarcity for Sudanese people .They call that sit-in (Banana sit-in) as the junta distributed a large quantity of Banana to them. even the previous regime supporters were shouting (we are not going to leave this place until the head of junta declare the coup statement )
Hello
I saw an advert. Can youtube show adds and not pay you.
What does this mean for the Abraham Accords?
Throw it in the bin , coming from a normal Sudanese citizen
@@salihalash4111 this would mean Sudan being placed back onto the State Sponsors of Terrorism list. This would very negatively impact your country
@@benlea8934 as long islamists dont come back , Sudan will still be fine. As matter of fact , most Sudanese dont want that fake agrrement .
Sudans president burhans said that hamdouks is in his house 😂😂
Hes a joke
Now I understand why Sudan is banned in many banking systems
Not like you would want to do business there.
If you know more , then you would. Gold , raw resources , live stock
Only 1 coup to go and africa unlocks the golden ak
As desirable it is just need to be realistic in that not all countries are suitable or function better under democracy
anotha coup
Lot of coups this year, eh?
there's a military coup in africa, water is wet
So many coups in Africa.
What if there were a "democracy for hire" service that countries could request when they're having trouble setting up a functional government? Like the UN sends a bunch of experts to study a country, draft an outline of a constitution, and set up the infrastructure of an electoral process, oversees it, ensures it's fair, then gets international endorsement for its outcome. Faster route to international recognition of a goverment, so economic benefits, plus more likely to gain the trust of the populace. Give everyone access to an app that lets them sign the request for this and then it all kicks in automatically when there's majority support for it. Too naive? Too inaccessible?
Might be possible if certain nations weren't permanent members of the UN security council
I don't think most people would be happy with essentially making their country a UN vassal state. Also having a nice constitution and fair elections wouldn't do much to solve deeper problems like a politicized military, corruption, inequality, ethnic tensions, etc. so you don't know if it would even stick in the long run.
Although I do think such a thing could maybe work, however I'd imagine you would need a full-on long-term military intervention. Something between what Napoleon did in Europe and the US (tried to do) in Afghanistan.
how are you gonna get geopolitical support???
@@broti705 You guys jsut want to turn the UN into something it's not.
This comment is not just "naive" (of course it is), it smells like dictated by the Globalist Western Elite that is currently running UN.
If Sudan is so internally fractured, why is it even still a single country? I know South Sudan broke off, why not split it up smaller again?
Because pretty much entire Africa agrees that whole continent will descent into chaos if you start redrawing colonial borders, and allowing smaller ethnicities to separate. South Sudan already was a unique case
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't
Sudan cant be broken into smaller states, its impossible
Yup, it’s demonetized! 😂😅
another good example that the world keeps going during a global pandemic
Supporting you on patreon? Sorry buddy, best I can do is like the video :D
7:45 well we germans also needed a few attempts until we became an funktioning democracy
lol
Once the military gets a taste of power, especially in the African context, they never want to let go of it...
Why limit it to Africa? It's like that everywhere... does the Russian military want to give up its power? How about the American military-industrial complex? People that gain power through arms never want to relinquish it.
@@petertrudelljr Because I live in Africa I understand it better those other regions that you mention that have really not held political power whereby they isolated civilians from the day to day running of the country..
@@petertrudelljr
The Russian military does not control Russia and never has.
@@thephoenix756 yes it did once. Now Russia is more of a oligarchy. No close enough to a full on dictatorship, but not far away.
@@tomaszzalewski4541
That's interesting; so when was the Russian military in charge of Russia?
Just a correction, Saturday was 16th and not 17th of October. 17th of October was a Sunday. Great video otherwise.
Education is a HUGE key for a functioning democracy. However, historical economic instability due to colonialism, extremist religious factions, and a lack of real action from the international community will keep mass education from happening. My heart is with the Sudanese people, but there isn't much that individuals in better off countries can do. I wish there was something we could do to help.
Well done, TLDR for covering this issue. I'd love to see videos going into more background on these issues from a historical perspective.
What a great contest! also a fun fact; Africa has more no. of dictators per capita than anywhere else. Also is it just me or the democracies around the world are on the backfoot.
I just don't know what the problem is with the whole of Africa regarding leadership.
The World: Oh no Somalia
Somalia: what
The World: sorry just a habit.