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LEE ENFIELD No. 4. Mk. I. versus RFI Ishapore 2A1, part 2
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2014
- This is part two of a two-part video about the famous battle rifle of the British Empire, the Lee-Enfield No. 4. Mk. I. in the fabulous .303 british caliber, pitted against it's "grandson", or "nephew", the RFI Ishapore 2A1 manufactured in India. The indian rifle was made in 7,62 NATO (7,62x51mm), and fires absolutely safely the commercial 308 WIN cartridges. The rifle is in excellent condition, tha headspace is perfect, and let's discard the stupid rumor that indian steel in these rifles is inferior quality.
The steel used in these RFI rifles is top quality for the 1960's, selected for the hotter 7,62 NATO rounds (hotter than 303 brtish at least), and the rifles were made on the original british tooling, following the british instructions. Top quality, amazing trigger, nice accuracy. Loves lighter bullets, 147 grain boat tails f.e.
Let's compare the WWII british model and the late Cold-War Indian. ALso, let's check out the bayonets, accessories, and capabilities.
These two milsurp rifles are must-have for any collector out there. Imho, these rifles were the pinnacle of the bolt action rifle history, arguably the smoothest bolt aout there, and are actually still in service.
Accurate, powerful, reliable, they are more than suitable for target practice, hunting, competition etc.
I found your video very informative, I also own one of each. They are like children, you don't love more than the other. Brad in Dallas Texas. USA.
Both rifles are good and have some history behind them.
Thankyou for a great explanation of the two Enfield types. I have the No. 4 Mk. 2 (.303) and the 1917 "American" Enfield (.30-06). I have been fascinated with the Ishapore 2A1 variant for a while and I enjoyed your review. Thanks again.
Loved your review on one of my favourite rifles of all time. Peace from New Zealand.
thanks a lot, whish I still had time to go to the range...
I would out my Lee-Enfield as my second favourite right after my K31.
And the Ishapore was such a joy to shoot without having the constant headache and guilt for using up my sparse 3O3 reserves....
You are using 8mm mauser stripper clips, you have to use NATO stripper clips for the Ishapore, those are wider and won't fall down into the magazine.
yeah mate you are right... I mismatched my inventory the other day :)
That was excellent. Very informative.
The 7.62 NATO round is exactly the same as the .308. The difference lies in the chambering of the rifle. A 7.62 military spec chamber has a looser tolerance before it is rejected- that's the only diffference. If you have a 7.62 NATO chambered rifle and a .308 gauge shows it's a "go" then the rifle is safe to shoot. I've shot thousands of .308 civilian rounds from my 2A1 over the last 25 years and never once had an issue- the rifle still checks good on a .308 chamber gauge even after all this time.
Like any surplus or used rifle, ALWAYS have it checked by a professional prior to live firing. Safety first!
Nice pair of videos. Answered lots of questions I had.
Thanks
U re wellcome. Case you have any specific questions, let me know, I am happy to help. Now I got half a thousand rounds behind my Ishapore, I gathered quite some experience with it.
Still, the No. 4. is such a baby... shoots like a champ. sweet rifle.
Great comparison. Thanks
Very nice videos. A couple of comments - stripper clips in the 303 need to have rims staggered, or it won't feed properly. Your clips are right, but you don't mention it :-) The 303 round tumbles far more easily, so wounding potential is enormous when target is without armour. However, the 7.62 round has better penetration. As you say, keep both!
+Dev Abhishek thanks mate! The british enfield wins because of the sights, by the skin of his teeth. I should have given it 49/50...
It is a bitch however to buy factory 303 ammo in Hungary, almost impossible. That's also a big reason why enfields are somewhat unknown there. Clearly, handloading is the right way to go with a 303 rifle, and many serious sport shooters are reloading or handloading. Unfortunately, I never had the time to do the exams and learn the process and set up my workshop to be allowed to do so, so I was shooting off 20 rounds at max' per session. Still I got pretty good results, the Enfield is just an amazing rifle.
Hungarian law demands that you pass special exams to be allowed to handload your ammo at home.
+BearOfSinai Also most 303 rounds had corrosive primer, it's a lot of work cleaning barrels with hot water after each shoot. As for ammo, and importer may be able to source it from OFB (Ordnance Factory Board), India. Here's the link;
ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/ammunition/sc/8.htm
Bear, I have a beauty of No. 1 Mark III* 1916 BSA and my son has an Ishy I just purchased for him. We enjoy both for target and hunting whitetails. You should do a part three sometime about the subtle difference between 2a and 2a1. Fit and finish on Brit, Aussie and Canadian rifles is superior however the steel on the ishy''s is a touch better so that the scale is balanced. In the US .308 ammo is much cheaper also giving the bump to the Ishy!
I've owned both. Very accurate review.
Thank you for the videos. I have a 2a1. What bayonet fit it?
What is the name of those dummy rounds and are you able to cycle and fire the gun with them or will it damage it
This was an excellent video. Would it be right to assume that you are in Israel? If you are could you do some more videos on surplus type firearms? Especially those not common outside of Israel. Great vid, keep it up!
thanks, mate!
Noppe, I`m hungarian and really sleepy when making his video. Usually I speak clean and accent free "american" english.
OMG I loved my Enfields so much... miss em, too.
Cool so comm-block weapons it is! I just picked up a .308 Israeli 98K and I can't wait to go shooting. Thanks and keep it up.