Everything Wrong With Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War's Weapons Part 1: Vanilla Weapons
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credit goes to Tzveig for footage
Welp sh*t, UA-cam messed up again. They removed frames in the intro. Resulting in word "weapons" going missing. Thanks UA-cam.
youtube more like youpoop
odd. My weapon showcase have the word "weapons" in them yet UA-cam did not remove frames containing it.
The campaign took place in 1981 and the multiplayer took place in 1984 or 83, but the amount mistakes they made, like Jesus Christ.
Literally 1984
Bro LITERALLY 1984 🙄😤
The fact the FN FAL, the most ubiquitous rifle of the Cold War, was never added into a game that takes place in the Cold War era is a travesty.
What’s also ironic is that MW2019 has both the FAL and the Makarov and yet neither appear in Cold War yet CW has a Bizon and QBZ, both of which would be developed after the 80s
Vz.58 is not in the game either. There's no G3, SVD, full length AK-74, no PKM, etc. Why the hell do they even call it Cold War?
@@honzabalak3462 closest they got to the G3 was the C58 which is what the G3 was based off of yet its recoil and mag size are closer to those of a 5.56 rather than a 7.62x51
Latest weapons of USSR, created in the 80s - AK-74 and AEK-971 were also not added to the game. AEK-971 must be an analogue of GRAU in the Cold War. In 2018, its modified version entered service with the Russian Spetznaz under the index KORD 6P67 and 6P68.
@@honzabalak3462 Russian community calls this game Cuckold War
John Ferguson being on the thumbnail shows just how iconic he's become
Jonathan is a great guy and deserves the fame.
Ian from Forgotten Weapons sticks to certain dogmas he refuses to let go. Jonathan doesn't.
@@honzabalak3462 they should fight.
@@KhoaLe-uc2ny They would end up drinking beer and discussing obscure prototypes very quickly.
Would love to see Ian in Full Jesus costume while Jonathan is hugging his STG 44 in the corner after seeing Vanguard
@@munanchoinc Emotional support Gewehr
Fun fact: the campaign takes place in 1981, however the multiplayer story takes place in ‘84
That would somewhat more sense
I assume some of the guns were early prototype before they become officially exist
I think zombies takes place in '84 or '85 as well.
@@_d.b.cooper Both, actually
@@v2461 Oh okay, that makes more sense.
Fitting, if you think about it
4:42
You missed the perfect opportunity to use a clip of old Woods from BO2, saying his famous line:
"Safety's on, dipshit."
One thing wrong, the campaign is set in 1981 while the multiplayer takes place in 1984-1985. There are strange one-off maps where they are set in 1982 like the cartel map, though
Tip for the LAPA: only 1 gun was ever produced, and it was a prototype
The manufacturer declared bankruptcy because they couldn't find a buyer for the gun
@Freesmart it's just a fact, it doesn't harm anyone :^)
@@tlacxztli_1 *cries in brazillian*
@Freesmart problem is that compared to BF1, Cold war had more options in guns. It's the 1980s, couldn't they get more guns from the 60s? Hell, they didn't even get alot of guns from the original Black Ops.
@Freesmart doesn't mean BF1 should get away with it either, it kills the imersion
1:54
That gun is supposed to be based on an UMP-45 but has the MPL's magwell.
In that case, why didn't they add an MPL instead is beyond me
Just get the MPL, replace the name, profit.
@@munanchoinc Yeah
Because Treyarch is Treyarch
Even BO1 had the MPL
@@Gewehr_36 Sadly the Treyarch that made WAW and BO1 is a different Treyarch today.
Coming back to this video, its kinda insane how much they butchered in their weapon designs.
Fun fact: the Ak-47 shouldn’t be in the game at all that: the time period of the game is I believe is 1981-84, the main service rifle of the Soviet Union was the Ak-74 after 1974. So all Ak-47s should be Ak-74s
Yeah that happens in modern warfare too
@@tdab3883 I give GW a pass since it’s actually gives the ak 5x45 making it the ak74
@@christian613 It takes A LOT more than a mag to get an AK-74. Why? Because AK-74 isn't based off of the AK-47. It's a rechambered AKM.
For starters, the receiver is completely different. So is the furniture, gas block and front sight post.
@@honzabalak3462 it does take more effort: but at least they made attempt to diversify the gun then just leaving the gun as a generic ak-47 like all the other call of duty’s
Another fun fact: AK 47 is a misnomer. The Soviets always referred to it as jus AK. Only the pre-production versions and a few early manuals call it the AK 47.
1:40 the game takes place from 1981 to 1985 meaning there is a slight period where the operators could use the gun, but not in the campaign
To be perfectly fair, and in hindsight, the guns really aren't so bad in this game. They all feel like cool alternate timeline guns, and not the abominations from Vanguard.
This ^^ they feel like actual prototype guns belonging to that era
A Drum mag M1 Garand Keeps me up at night tho
I like the guns but I don’t like how plastic and cartoony they look and the animations aren’t really good at all compared to mw
@@rustybench3334 To be fair I dont think any game can come close to how clean MW's animations are. Especially not ones that were rushed like Cold War.
Ready or Not mimics the MW style really well, it gave me a tingle in my sack that I never felt before.
@@ratbasher5890even the new modern warfare doesn't look as good as mw19 in terms of gun animations (and weapon models as well).
4:18
pistol whipping a minigun? Legend
1:23 you actually can aim down the sights when the stock is folded, Franchi (The company that designed the Spas 12) designed the stock so that if it was folded you could still aim down the sights with the caveat of having a drastically worsened field of view
Even though I'm a month late, I'd like to correct you on the history of the QBZ-95. The first generation of the gun (the one being depicted in-game) started being produced in 1995 before being formally adopted by the Chinese military in 1997. The second generation was adopted in 2010.
2:15 I own an AR-15 and decided to base it off of the “XM4.” I have an OD green sling wrapped around the rifle just like in game and the bolt catch still works.
3:45 those RPD drums attached to the bottom aren’t actually drum magazines. They just hold the belted ammunition of the gun like the belt box under an M249. And yes, those drums can only hold 50 rounds.
God damn it, i love how the subtitles match with the gun's movement... Amazing!!!
You wanna know the funniest thing. the "XM4" is just the Commando from Black Ops 1, down to the Sling wrapped around the weapon in such a way that the bolt wouldn't close (granted in Cold War you can give it a different stock so it removes the sling)
1:37 Campaign take place in 1981, multiplayer and zombies - 1984-1985
the fact that most usa guns origins is changed to some funny words is enough to make me subcribe
Origins:Pizza Land
As an Italian,i'm honored.
Yeah, one of the things that pissed me off when I first played Cold War was the fact that they made the AUG burst fire. It was my favorite gun to use in Black Ops 1, so seeing what they did to it in Cold War, in a came with people sliding around corners and laser beaming you in half a second of seeing you, was really disappointing. Not to say the gun isn't unusable though, it works well in Hardcore modes, and it feels more satisfying to get a kill with in my opinion.
they already had a near perfect lineup of guns in the first and second (for the flashback sequences) games, it's beyond any amount of critical thinking as to why they put so many wrong guns and incorrect features into this game
Dude they had spas 12 in Vietnam. The fuck are you talking about. I know this is old but still
5:00 this is how you end a video
Two things:
1) all the "origin" references were quite easy to understand.
2)idk what is the 2nd thing i was goin' to say.
Glad I'm not only one who acknowledged the AKS-74U is a carbine instead of a SMG, it doesn't use 9mm or .45 ACP
Actually ak74u was indeed classified as a sub gun as the ak47 originally was when it was first adopted.
"time traveling guns"
he didnt know what was to come.
Great video. I'd prefer the text be still and the video longer so I can read it without having to pause that much (mostly a mobile problem).
Keep 'em coming!
I took that into consideration. That's why many of the longer text were left unedited because it can cause headaches. I'll reduce them in the next videos.
@@munanchoinc Thank you very much for listening to us, I'm looking forward for the next one!
The RPD is actually ok, it used 50 round belts that were linked into 100 round belts. So, its not optimal but its not inaccurate either. Also your country of origin names are hilarious.
The burst m16 would make sense as the multiplayer takes place in '84 the campaign? ehhh
I love how the QBZs origin is the Tiananmen Square massacre date
no, they didn't misname .45 acp, you see, attaching this attachment turns your gun into APC main gun.
I like he just gives up on creative origins halfway through.
Look it's freaking hard to think of references in every title.
@@munanchoinc um, call them american stuff? Like
Cheezeborgar
Okay so upon digesting this video, let me try and comprehend what I just saw and maybe help correct a few things and add even more sins to the count.
The MP5K did not have a stock and could not accept standard buttstocks. It was instead fitted with an endcap that had a sling loop on it. The only variant to have a stock was the MP5K-PDW which was developed in 1991.
Spas-12: true, the rear sight is totally covered by the folded stock. Also firing any shotgun "PGO style" (pistol grip only) that close to your face would result in taking the recoil in the teeth or jaw. There's a reason stocks are just better. The SPAS-12 also held 8+1.
AKS-74U: As much as I hate to disagree here, and by all means am I not saying CoD is right...there are two meanings to the term "sub-machinegun". It could refer to the weapon firing pistol caliber ammunition or a smaller variant, or compact version of the rifle it is derrived from. So yes, its not a traditional SMG but it is a smaller machine gun. So the original meaning still stays true but the modern version of what a sub-machinegun is holds more weight. Today, it would be a carbine. Also you are correct, drum magazines for the RPK variant of the AK-74 were never produced. The Russians ditched drums and went straight to 45 round box/stick mags. I'll refer you to Forgotten Weapons video about why drum mags are bad.
PP-19 Bizon: the magazine magically detaches itself from the gun. There are two parts to seating the magazine, first the bar on the end goes into a hook near the end of the handguard, then the magazine pivots upwards to engage the magazine catch. The magazine cannot drop free in this manner.
XM177E1: does not have a detachable carry handle. Correct about the sights and sling blocking the bolt catch (not to mention the sling uselessly wrapped around the weapon).
XM4: this rifle was identical to the XM177E2 which also had an A1 upper receiver. This wasn't developed until around 1983. The only thing similar was the CAR-15 was was an A2 with the shorter barrel and collapsing buttstock. The XM4 was not produced or adopted until after 1987.
Famas: it was produced from 1978 so it should have its proper form. What bastardized version is in the game is completely alien to me.
Sks: typically were semi-auto. I could be wrong with some variant being select-fire. Also if this version takes AK mags, why not 30 round mags?
AUG: correct, this bullpup had what is called a progressive trigger. Meaning pulling it halfway gets you semi-auto and all the way is full-auto. There is a long trigger linkage to the trigger pack in the buttstock, so a burst mechanism is impossible. Also the sight is a 1.5x with a simple circle. There were pistol style backup sights along the top.
M14: selector is actually set to full auto. As for why the rifle is always depicted in semi-auto, I will defer you to Forgotten Weapons again, where Ian fires a full-auto M14. Its...interesting.
Stoner 63A: feed options are 75, 100, and 150 round boxes. Also fires from an open bolt.
RPD: feeds from a 50 round belt, which does not indeed disintigrate. You can link two belts together to get 100 rounds. Also that drum is not really a magazine, its more of a hollow drum shaped container for the belt to go instead of just dangle.
M60: correct, 100 round belts were preloaded into cardboard boxes for feeding.
the "SKS" is a Norinco Type 63 that was designed to use detachable shortened bolt hold open ak mags and go full auto (it was designed to supplement the Type-56(AK))
@@TragicTester034 ahh okay. i did say "i could be wrong" but thanks for the info. they still could have used standard AK mags, the bolt hold open was probably more for charger/stripper topping off
MP5K: technically, "reverse stretch" receivers are a thing, although I don't know how modern this is. but they can mount standard MP5 stocks with enough modification
SPAS-12. in game has a short mag tube that holds only 6 rounds.
Okay but due to how short the receiver of the MP5K is, you'd have to cut the stock down too, hence why it only had an endcap on it until they made a purpose built stock for it.
As for why the spas-12 is only 6, blame the devs. I was citing the real thing
@@ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming no, there are real 6 round tubes too. and the one in game is clearly modeled after one. check wikipedia, it got the pic of spas-12 with such a tube.
"reverse stretch" receivers for mp5k have elongated rear to allow for installation of standard mp5 stocks. they are not offered by HK themselves, i dont know how modern they are, they are not really fit to be a standard issue gun like in the game, but they are a real thing.
I’ll like to add some corrections. The Cold War campaign takes place in 1981 but the multiplayer takes place in 1984. The KSP is actually a mash up of the UMP45 and it’s civilian counterpart which only fired 2 shot bursts
>Origin: country that lost to farmers
*grumbles around burger, hits subscribe*
1:23 You can ADS spas 12 with the stock unfolded. Take a look at real pictures of spas 12
Being a guy who very interested in guns,seeing these thing it just pain in the ass.
I think anyone who was part of the team creating and designing guns in this game, had to be:
1) 7 years old
2) without access to google or wikipedia
3) without elementary history knowledge
4) all of the above
Feel free to add your ideas... There is so much wrong with guns in CW, that it had to be done on purpose.
Alt universe I suppose but the guns are crap in general
5) more interested in the "rule of cool" than being accurate, given 95-98% of people who play Call of Duty do not care about anything more than surface level accuracy
game developers aren't stupid because they don't model everything 1:1. it's stupid to think that's the _only_ way you can model firearms in a fictional game
Can't compare to Sledge tho, they're on a different league of their own.
Some of the names you gave the weapons had me dead 😂
I don't like the sound of the sniper rifles in Cold War. Sounds like a Discount Airsoft Gun that you get in some Chop-shop toy store.
The country origins lmao
Ah except, the Ak5 COULD be the FNC as it's basically the same gun and was made in the late 70s. Just treat it that it's an FNC.
M82 was designed and released in 1982. While the events of the game are set 1981, the M82 wasn't developed in the 90s. It was a functioning rifle in the early 80s. Other rifles based around the Barret M82 design were conceived and later produced in the 90s.
But, I do get the fact it's irritating a 1982 year gun is available somehow a year earlier. CoD developers really are getting lazy with the weaponry in these new games. Just look at Vanguard
I have allways been saying cold war would be such a cool setting for a shooter because you have no rails and allmost no red dots and then they do this shit😠
RPG-7 did not cock the hammer after loading in a new rocket
Right
as much as i hate cold war, the menu music(played during the video) fucking slaps. zombies was okay
Tfw MW2 and MW2019 both use more accurate models of the FAMAS well into the modern era but BO1 and BOCW use that bastardized model.
1:18 Evil Mustache Man is Austrian 🇦🇹
And the MP5 is German
You can use AKSU with drum mags.All same caliber AK mags are completely interchangeable,but 5,45 drum mags invented to use with RPK-12.
But,that mag looking like more like conversion from 7,62 RPK drum mag.
Sentence: Bell, we got job to do
ok, big fun fact for Cold War. Its in an entire different universe, just like COD 2019, they got some of the things wrong *on purpose* to different from our world of guns. Just like 2019, just know this
Munchano inc: says "drum magazine" when that's obviously a belt box and not the magazine
The AK-47/AKM hybrid is anachronistic anyways. They switched to an AK-74 couple of years earlier.
Isn't it funny how the 2XP icon features an AK-74 which we don't have in the game? It's not present in MW either.
RPD is anachronistic as well. PK/PKM universal machine guns and RPK/RPK-74 light machine guns were widely used by this time period
Nobody is talking about the rattling sound magazines make when depleting?
.45 Apc round shoots Big APC
when we say everything, we now MEAN EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING is wrong about them
This is the first black ops game without the mp40
Came for the M1911, stays because you can't leaves...from Jeff Bezzo territory.
This video couldn't be harder to read
The virgin AKM vs the chad AKMS
0:55 1 in the chamber ?
The gun never used 1 in the chamber mechanic, as a result, im judging them by magazine size, not including ammo in the chamber
.45 APC huh? so my gun shoots out APCs?
That "XM4" has a civilian lower obviously
1:36 BOCW is set in between 1968 - 1985
But you get the weapon early on in 1982 and 1981
@@munanchoinc Are you referring to campaign?
@@woobharb yes
@@munanchoinc Then no, the multiplayer is set in '84. Following the story of the moment (Lore of multiplayer) we are in '85
There were may more than that…
The origin names are funny asf xD
Will you do Weapon Sins for Insurgency (2007 Mod version)
I was expecting Origin: IKEA for the AK5
Cool I realized I have a rpk 74 a few years earlier:)
Talking about "drums" for RPD / M60 etc is kinda meh drum is more apporpiate for magasine being drums like PPSh KP31 RPK drum and so one , for just an empty metalic case made to hold a belt ... meh
One of the glaring time issues I have is that in one of the multiplayer maps/single player levels, you can see the strife pistol from black ops 4.....which takes place in the 2040s.
A 12 rd revolver does existing. But it's not like the magnum in cold war. Also the nagant revolver is a fully suppressable revolver. Just type those and you will see the real life counterparts of them
My problem with this unlike Cinema Sins, is this feels like it's nit picking just for the sake of hating cod. Cinema sins is actually funny. This isn't.
Have you played Enlisted?
1:30 The reloading animation for SPAS-12 remains the same whether tactical or empty. In the latter's case, the shotgun was never cocked, meaning that the round is never chambered like you said.
Gotta correct something, the campaign takes place in 1981, the multiplayer story takes place in 1984 so the guns used in multiplayer should be be separated from the ones used in the camapaign
The black ops games are so good that guns that are anarchistic still look period appropriate. The famas from black ops 1 is a perfect example, that variant of the famas didn’t exist until the early 2000s yet the gun looked in place in a game set in the 1960s
Evil Mustache Man
The AKS-74U uses the same magazines as the AK-74 and other versions of the Kalashnikov assault rifle for 5.45x39 caliber. And the RPK-74 has a drum magazines. Therefore, the AKS-74U can use them.
Funny how they forgot the FAL, took them so long to show the original M60, didn't include the PKM, and put an obscure weapon that was more fitting for BO1 (EM-2).
I still kind it funny people continue to perpetuate the “America lost a war to farmers” myth, when in nearly every major combat engagement the US won. Not understanding the difference between a political defeat and a military defeat makes you look ignorant.
Could the AKS74U be considered a PDW?
Genuine question
2:56 I find the text bouncing with the gun to be funny for some reason
They are a little wrong for some of the guns, it says cod Cold War, it’s not gonna have guns from just one little time in the Cold War, it’s gonna try and introduce them all, these guys are just focusing through the seventies where the Cold War ended in 1989
this video is hard to watch because you fucking tied the text to the movement, now make a everything wrong with this video part 1, also the campaign extends into the early 90s if you watched the cutscenes they go to the middle east making half of your claims invalid
Actually the STORY takes place in '81. Multiplayer and Warzone take place during '84.
Time traveling frankenguns are a Black Ops tradition.
Multiplayer takes place in 1984 so the Milano in game is correct
Spas 12 cant load without pushing a bolt release button. first animation did right then next one didnt...some vid on youtube said it.
The multiplayer takes place in 1984
Russian weapons should have the origin of "Lost to DESERT farmers"
4:17 God! He must be twice as strong as the Terminator to fire a minigun.
Hrllo. I am jsut wondering sjnce im from poland too.
What video program are yoy using to edit thr video?
They keep mispronouncing the Aks-74u as "AK-74u" and that just pisses me off so much.
"Nothing in games is correct" Me 2022-2022
The aug also is double stacked, single feed which is ironic
M60, RPD and Stoner 63 all have belt holders, not magazines.
1:54 that is roughly based on the H&K SMG II.
u put m16a2 instead of m16a4 and this game takes place in 1981 and 1984