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  • @5pac3man
    @5pac3man 29 днів тому +127

    “He’s picking up blades of grass with his sphincter.” Yes. Yes, he is. I think that’s for extra points.

  • @congoose100
    @congoose100 26 днів тому +37

    One line of "yeah, these weights are probably bullshit but still heavy" would have resolved the whole thing.

    • @Atticus3lack
      @Atticus3lack 17 днів тому

      There are lines in there that question the actual weight.

  • @wronghandright4795
    @wronghandright4795 28 днів тому +134

    Martin knows better than to go into someone's house as a guest and start calling them frauds.

    • @afsmpur1
      @afsmpur1 23 дні тому

      Specially Pakistan with their honor killings and shit

    • @thewisemanpaul
      @thewisemanpaul 22 дні тому +1

      If you're a fraud you're a fraud lmao

    • @wronghandright4795
      @wronghandright4795 22 дні тому +13

      @@thewisemanpaul Mr. Autism over here, a regular Immanuel Kant. There's nuance here. I guarantee Martin knew that as soon as the video went up, experienced lifters would call bs and let the community know the Pakistan lifters are bunk.

  • @buddybrozy
    @buddybrozy 29 днів тому +228

    more like weights unknown

    • @user-he4ef9br7z
      @user-he4ef9br7z 28 днів тому +10

      Holy lmao...

    • @travisoutlaw9511
      @travisoutlaw9511 28 днів тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @reggiepathak9684
      @reggiepathak9684 25 днів тому +2

      why is this guy hating on them? These guys arent even that big ect ect this is natural farm boy strength. The guys hes compaing them too those giants in america are all on peds. Give me a break here.

    • @eutiger4789
      @eutiger4789 15 днів тому +4

      @@reggiepathak9684 thats the point random skinny farmers cant lift the same weight as wsm

    • @reggiepathak9684
      @reggiepathak9684 15 днів тому

      @@eutiger4789 i think they can with hard work and if this type of training is engrained in them for generations for sure they can.,
      There was a wrestler in india because there was no pakistan at that time called the great gama. Legend has it hes the greatest grappler of all time and went 5000 matches without a loss and he challenged everyone in the world including all the american european wrestlers and beat them, like real grappling. He did it by doing straight thousands of hindu pushups and hindu squats.

  • @Bombsuitsandkilts
    @Bombsuitsandkilts 29 днів тому +119

    I was in charge of keeping the stone series for the highland games and traveling around with them. Every year before the season, I reweigh and the drill into the stones and add molten metal to get the stones back to weight. The most I've seen a stone be under is 10 lbs but that was because someone chipped in when they dropped another stone on it. Anyways that stone ain't no 200kg!

    • @ahmarahmar8990
      @ahmarahmar8990 26 днів тому +2

      liar

    • @Runner-Boy
      @Runner-Boy 26 днів тому

      Cap

    • @Bombsuitsandkilts
      @Bombsuitsandkilts 26 днів тому +14

      @@ahmarahmar8990 I guess I'm confused what you think I'm lying about? It's the Highland Games in central California not Scotland? I'm confused when people say cap about something that is so normal to me?

    • @harisabram4767
      @harisabram4767 26 днів тому +1

      These games are old as your Highlands and the numbers are known. Father to son. They weigh the weights and lifting a said weight is a badge of honour. People have honour. I am more inclined to believe this weight is around 200kg than many of the Highland games.

    • @Bombsuitsandkilts
      @Bombsuitsandkilts 26 днів тому

      @@harisabram4767 oh I get it you're dumb, sorry about that then

  • @sagebauer1077
    @sagebauer1077 29 днів тому +59

    the second I clicked on the video I just KNEW that Monty Python clip was gonna show up LOL

  • @DeepSpaceNinja
    @DeepSpaceNinja 28 днів тому +27

    That thing could weigh anything. Limestone, marble, granite or concrete? There’s no point stating any numbers unless you bring a proper scale.
    Seeing how heavy it ‘feels’ is also useless and arbitrary. A 100 lb lawn mower feels heavy when you have to lift onto a truck in the morning.

    • @stimpsonjcat26
      @stimpsonjcat26 28 днів тому +1

      Curious what lawnmower weighs 100lbs? Seems too heavy for a pushmower and too light for a riding mower. Never weighed either of them though.

    • @user-he4ef9br7z
      @user-he4ef9br7z 28 днів тому +13

      ​@@stimpsonjcat26Added weight of the grass OP didn't clean out.

    • @MeTooMan
      @MeTooMan 24 дні тому

      A 100 lbs lawn mower isn’t heavy any time of day.

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 23 дні тому +4

      That's their Pakistani culture of strongmen lifting, don't expect the same western standards onto them as if they're exactly like the westerners that do those lifts. At least they do it slightly differently, which in itself is interesting. And be careful of saying how heavy it feels, that can be a legitimate way for them to weigh how heavy it actually is. Not any one person there is the same, some can't lift, some barely lift, some can easily lift.

    • @kblkbl
      @kblkbl 15 днів тому +2

      @@danielnelson3136 No it's not. How heavy something feels can have a lot to do with how awkward it is to grab a hold, how offset is its center of mass or how far away your center of mass is from its center of mass. That dude 100% isn't swinging 200kg.

  • @jculbert2221
    @jculbert2221 29 днів тому +38

    Yeah I dunno. The spirit of Strength Unknown is there, like any of the other episodes. I agree Martins could have at least tried to pick the 330 to see for himself. Just a brief comment to the camera that maybe it's not that heavy would've been okay. Don't need to say it to them.
    Their stone lifting style is still fucking cool tho.

    • @Mr.Ciobanu
      @Mr.Ciobanu 29 днів тому

      that show is so fking stupid, they literally don't show anything or explain, just a dumb ass vlog with 1 min of a random lift :)) and a voiceover like is the end of time

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 27 днів тому +2

      And their stone lifting style is cool, a bit different from western cultures. Even the Indians have their way of doing squats and push ups.

  • @GainzGoblinz
    @GainzGoblinz 28 днів тому +39

    Alex, I think your wrong on the BLUE blocks. Prepare for math assuming they didnt put foam blocks in the concrete forms.
    - 1 cubic foot of concrete is 130 lbs
    - 2 cu ft = 280 lbs
    - 3 cu ft = 420 lbs
    Visual example in case you are trying to imagine Cubic Feet, an 8 cubic foot box dimensions are 2'x2'x2' = 8 cu ft
    Let's assume the BLUE block is 16"x12"x24" = 2.67 cu ft
    Using a concrete weight calculator 2.67 cu ft = 383.4 lbs
    I double checked the concrete weight calculator by using the formula V = 4/3 πr3 on an 24" diameter Atlas Stone that should weigh 585 lbs and my math gives me around 593 lbs. So the caculator is accurate in my book. I would agrue that the movement is a parlor trick that requires tons of technique and not a ton of strength.
    I've picked up several stones and we see what it takes to move a 410 lb stone from Kieliszkowski but in stone lifting the shape and texture of the stone is everything. That said I am calling bull on the weight of the natural stones.
    The atlas stone lift is like the stone version of the snatch. Their atlas stones have grips cut out at the bottom which is why they move them so easily off the ground. No clue if the weight is honest but that hurts my wrist looking at it.
    Let's say

    • @GainzGoblinz
      @GainzGoblinz 26 днів тому +2

      @tylerpeterson1280 Good point. The blocks would have to have rebar in them to keep them together from repeated abuse. I mean that handle has to be connected to some kind of cage through the block.

    • @thewisemanpaul
      @thewisemanpaul 22 дні тому

      You came?​@tylerpeterson1280

  • @hiebrantsify
    @hiebrantsify 28 днів тому +17

    The most nonsensical part about the cinder blocks weighing as much as they do is that you would be hard pressed to get that type of weight in that small of a form factor with iron let alone cement.

    • @harisabram4767
      @harisabram4767 26 днів тому +3

      F**king hell, i have seen weights like these cinder blocks being weighed and lifted in the UK. Weights like 200kg, therefore when i hear the science or justification behind this video, i sigh and thinking, man how wrong is this. 😂

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 23 дні тому +1

      @@harisabram4767 The YT guy doing this video is for clicks and views. He's just projecting his own western standards onto another culture and how they do their own strongmen lift styles. Also yes absolutely the case concrete blocks like that weigh around 200kg and are used in UK competitions.

    • @eutiger4789
      @eutiger4789 15 днів тому

      @@danielnelson3136 we got as much frauds here as you do so we need measured stuff not bs

  • @homersimpson5501
    @homersimpson5501 29 днів тому +8

    Their hip mobility is another level with those atg squats

  • @prod.bygygahurts304
    @prod.bygygahurts304 29 днів тому +9

    Brom, just wanted to say i LOVE your content man. You make it so much more interesting and fun with the way you come at your subjects. Keep it up dude!!

  • @StraitjacketFitness
    @StraitjacketFitness 29 днів тому +94

    There is zero percent chance of that painted blue cement block weighing 400lbs.
    In the words of Greg Doucet,
    "Zeeeerooo....."

    • @matt1730
      @matt1730 29 днів тому +13

      Yeah, 400 lbs at 1.44 grams / cubic centimeter means that block would need to be 4.5 cubic feet. It's maybe half of that.

    • @magicjohnsins
      @magicjohnsins 29 днів тому +29

      You mean in the words of InfiniteElgintensity

    • @StraitjacketFitness
      @StraitjacketFitness 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@magicjohnsins
      Nah.

    • @baecotte
      @baecotte 28 днів тому +5

      @@magicjohnsins I miss his old content. Not big on the new shit

    • @bobbybobman3073
      @bobbybobman3073 28 днів тому +3

      I did some sanity checks with density and the blue block would have had to have been in the ballpark of solid aluminum (probably a more like 3.0- 3.3 g/cm^3 not the 2.7 of aluminum) and sorry but you're not convincing me that the even just the law of conversations of angular momentum, isn't throwing that string bean of a man around more. Look at the "bar path" 408 should be yanking him around.

  • @user-dn4lg1dv5v
    @user-dn4lg1dv5v 29 днів тому +11

    No way thlse weighs were accurate. But the sucking up sand sphincter squat stone pess was impressive. I😂😂

  • @kevinwirth244
    @kevinwirth244 26 днів тому +2

    Excellent job navigating a touchy subject with respect and experience.

  • @koffski93
    @koffski93 29 днів тому +5

    I have dug up a couple of stones out of my lawn because they destroyed my mower. They range between 75kg and 176kg. The three biggest stones I have 117kg, 150kg and 176kg are quite a lot bigger than some seen here that are supposedly heavier. I would say many stones above 150kg are very hard to lift because of their size/shape for a normal sized human like the Pakistanis in the video.

  • @T12J7
    @T12J7 28 днів тому +7

    I was also a bit skeptical regarding the cube type thing and the balls, since they look like they are made out of cement which has a way lower density than rock, and also it would be very easy to embed cavities inside of it during casting to make is even lighter. However though, at one point in the video they do use an electronic scale to weight one instrument, so maybe the weights are real, who knows.
    Also, I too kind of find it irritating that he doesn't really seem to want to challenge the locals in these videos in general. Like he is a world's strongest man, so it would be very interesting to see him try to actually set records or win these guys in these competitions in general, but instead he just settles to give them credit for the thing they claim and is happy to just show what they do.
    Anyhow, I still do like his videos a lot and appreciate him doing this type of original content which for sure takes a lot more effort than to just firm reaction videos and food challenges for example.

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 23 дні тому

      Here is why:
      1. Pakistani culture which is different from the EU/UK/USA culture. They are not as obsessed with winning competitions, tournaments, trophies like you westerners always wanting to be top dog.
      2. It's their way of strongmen lifting, and how they do their own lifts. Also they don't care to enter some western competition to prove anything to you lot.
      3. They don't care about seeking approval from a bunch of westerners projecting their biases and expectations of how they should lift this way or that way.
      4. Martin maybe has a cameraman and a few body guards, but Martin doesn't want to be the dogmatic skeptic debunk type. Martin is polite and knows he's in another country and culture where they do lifts their own way, so he doesn't want to appear rude or challenging people who lift different from him. In fact this attitude of Martin is a good attitude to have when you're a guest in their region and country, which Alexander Bromley missed the fine line there not to cross.

    • @mups4016
      @mups4016 5 днів тому

      ​@@danielnelson3136This is a huge cope to justify lying.

  • @geneharrogate6911
    @geneharrogate6911 28 днів тому +4

    All of these lifts are as legit as Arthur Saxons 371 bent press..

  • @magnusdanielsson2749
    @magnusdanielsson2749 28 днів тому +3

    A 50cm sphere in concrete calculates roughly to 150kg.
    But I agree its very suspect when dealing with such non standard weights.

  • @johnmacdonald713
    @johnmacdonald713 29 днів тому

    Excellent video brom! Some of the most thoughtful and honest in the space ! 👍

  • @Fitnessheretic
    @Fitnessheretic 29 днів тому +56

    I had the same reaction. Martins swears that the weights felt what he said they weighed but if that was true why is it Pakistani weightlifters are nobodies? If they can toss around weights so easily surely there would be at least one shining example in international competition.

    • @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702
      @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 29 днів тому +20

      Yeah, I've lifted heavy odd implements and outside of a classic barbell context when dealing with something like a stone it becomes a world of difference... that little guy tossing that "330lb" stone up like it was nothing... if that was indeed legit, dude could easily be setting world records with a little more food and a year or two of heavy training, but I somehow highly doubt that was the actual weight of the stone!

    • @MrYokyScape
      @MrYokyScape 29 днів тому +12

      Because there’s more to it than just talent. Is it really that surprising that the governments who invest the most into certain sports end up doing exceptionally well in those sports?

    • @Fitnessheretic
      @Fitnessheretic 28 днів тому +17

      @@MrYokyScape Which adds even more skepticism to these lifts. They're showing off world class levels of strength and power in spite of zero government investment. They're just random skinny men in a small local competition.

    • @esketit3701
      @esketit3701 28 днів тому

      @@Fitnesshereticlol better than obese 45% body fat Americans 👍

    • @Micheldied
      @Micheldied 28 днів тому +14

      Not that I'm saying the implements weigh what they weigh, but there are plenty of strong people out there who are nobodies in strength sports because of plenty of reasons. 1. Most countries in the world have no exposure to strongman. 2. There is no money in strength sports outside of a few countries. 3. Cultural limitations are a thing. I have friends from Pakistan and India, and the societal pressures to go all in on academics and becoming a doctor/engineer etc. is very real.

  • @rollerr
    @rollerr 28 днів тому +5

    10:02 takes like this are why you have a lot of credibility with me.

  • @Gusativo
    @Gusativo 28 днів тому +30

    Googling the measurements used in Pakistan, it shows that Martins has rounded up the units, causing a discrepancy of about 10% actual weight. The first unit is actually 37kg not 40, and the second 900g, not 1 kg. So the 3:20 stone would be something like 111+18kg (129kg) rather than 140kg.

    • @ulhasanzk2249
      @ulhasanzk2249 24 дні тому

      some places it says 40 kg when googling it

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 23 дні тому

      It's fine as is. What do you expect from Martin's rounding up, in a Pakistani culture and region? Don't expect the exact same standards from the west onto them.

  • @onerider808
    @onerider808 29 днів тому +23

    Can’t fool Bromley.

  • @aorippedbandaid3711
    @aorippedbandaid3711 28 днів тому +21

    The ⚖️ is a good tool to measure weights as long as the base weight is known and calibrated.
    The measure of weight they use 'mun' is a common unit of around 40kg that is used to measure agricultural products like bags of rice, wheat, animal feed, etc. Farmers would definitely know a mun and could easily check and compare if any of the implements was near the claim. Whether they actually care about the accuracy of the weight remains to be seen.

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 23 дні тому

      I agree the scale's a pretty good tool for measuring the weights of 2 objects. It's decent and doesn't need hyper complex western laboratory standards and academia hyper papers written, you just need a basic scale that can withstand the weights of 2 objects, that's as simple as it gets. IDK why he's so triggered by something so simple.😂

  • @cool_piglet
    @cool_piglet 27 днів тому +1

    4.20 in terms of stones got it's new meaning

  • @chi7818
    @chi7818 22 дні тому +2

    When you lie about the weight, you are destroying any beauty it might have had.
    Saying the true weight wouldn’t take away from it all but lying about it ruins the experience. For example a 20 pound Indian gada is amazing and hard to use, but lying about it and saying it was 50 pounds makes it bullshit.

  • @1TieDye1
    @1TieDye1 29 днів тому +1

    Regardless of the weights, that movement with the atlas stone clean thing was fucking dope

  • @Jmack7861
    @Jmack7861 29 днів тому +29

    That “286” lbs stone looks closer to a 175lbs stone size wise

    • @martynodonnell
      @martynodonnell 29 днів тому +1

      It’s most likely a translation problem. If no one is confirming the weight of the stone. 200lb could be being translated as 200KG, for example 🤷‍♂️

    • @Jmack7861
      @Jmack7861 29 днів тому +13

      @@martynodonnell but other countries don’t use lbs

    • @BuJammy
      @BuJammy 29 днів тому +2

      @@martynodonnell that makes no sense.

    • @EVO6-
      @EVO6- 29 днів тому +7

      ​@@martynodonnellthey don't use pounds. Only the inverse is possible.

    • @Micheldied
      @Micheldied 28 днів тому +2

      ​@@Jmack7861 I'm not Pakistani so I can't say for sure in this case, but many other countries that typically use kilograms have other forms of measurement for the weight of random objects. Japan has a separate measurement they use for stones, for example.

  • @Ezratal
    @Ezratal 29 днів тому +13

    I had the same reaction, but Martins did seem to struggle quite a bit with these lifts. Even if the numbers are inflated, that fact seems impressive. But yeah the goofy part is, the numbers don't need to be crazy for it to be cool. The show is about global lifting culture/traditions, not some, like 'there are rando skinny mountain men all over the world who are as strong as WSM winners!' (which is obviously not true).

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  29 днів тому +27

      He struggled with the towel technique, but that was after casually raw dogging the "440" stone to shoulder. He didn't really try anything else

    • @shawnmichaud4484
      @shawnmichaud4484 28 днів тому +7

      Sometimes when I do something extremely easily after someone is struggling with it I put on a little bit of theatrical difficulty to save their feelings. This is not uncommon.

  • @littlezkidsclothingstore6216
    @littlezkidsclothingstore6216 13 днів тому

    40kg is called a "Mann" in Pakistan. Its a standard weight for a bag of wheat since ancient times. So that was the minimum standard of strength. Being able to carry a 40kg bag of wheat. Thats why still they use multiples of 40kg for weighing.

  • @onerider808
    @onerider808 29 днів тому +2

    Strong or not, they are leading the way in workout clothing. That stuff is truly cool and comfortable, even in the hottest weather.

  • @DmitriyLusin
    @DmitriyLusin 29 днів тому +3

    Agreed.
    Out of all traditional strength training, that I saw or tried (hojo undo/indian wrestler`s training/scottish stones/chinese hard qigong and wrestling training) this one looks the most suspicious.

    • @thotslayer4949
      @thotslayer4949 28 днів тому

      Because this ain't the real thing. India is good at wrestling, wons many medals and it's not even popular in Pakistan.

  • @omarazami7377
    @omarazami7377 27 днів тому +1

    Yeah I gave them the benefit of the doubt when I saw it, but I'm not going to lie some of those things looked real skeptical.

  • @wheelhouse44
    @wheelhouse44 26 днів тому +1

    I agree.... im sorry but these weights with these relatively skinny guys seems a little off. There was a scene where one of the elders told the cinematographer not to touch the implement

  • @theicemanhaslanded
    @theicemanhaslanded 28 днів тому +2

    Reminds me of Alan Thrall’s 1000 pound tyre flip 😂

  • @Major.Tom.1973
    @Major.Tom.1973 29 днів тому

    Very interesting, thanks Bromley

  • @littlezkidsclothingstore6216
    @littlezkidsclothingstore6216 13 днів тому

    These round Atlas stones are cast concrete. The bigger ones average around 140 kg , give or take 5kg.

  • @Harrysreptarium
    @Harrysreptarium 29 днів тому +1

    There was a short section on how they weighed the weights, a goofy scale system with a wood tripod.

  • @workout1520
    @workout1520 28 днів тому

    Truth Telling is one of your super powers. After you've been around the block a few times, one notices the potential existence of "Alternate Hypothesis".

  • @Egoliftdaily
    @Egoliftdaily 29 днів тому +2

    Great points, Brom. Yep... Those weight labels are not accurate.

  • @onnoholling7107
    @onnoholling7107 29 днів тому

    Good vid,
    I was thinking the same a couple of years ago when I first saw those type of lifts
    Looked a bit dodgy to me re the weights on the stones

  • @LilNinjaMatt
    @LilNinjaMatt 29 днів тому +5

    if the pakistanis are this strong why not compete in us/uk etc to clean up easy prize money?

    • @AP-qu2li
      @AP-qu2li 28 днів тому

      For the same reason that you see all the fake martial arts chi-blast ""masters"" not cleaning up in UFC

    • @michawiacek1585
      @michawiacek1585 28 днів тому

      They dont want your dirty money😂

    • @TB-me1gc
      @TB-me1gc 28 днів тому

      What I thought, that would be very big money for them

    • @RandelOland901-ATT
      @RandelOland901-ATT 26 днів тому

      Not saying they're as strong as they claim to be, but the hurdle they would face would be financial and entering the country.

    • @LilNinjaMatt
      @LilNinjaMatt 24 дні тому

      @@RandelOland901-ATT set up a crowd fund? gonna get a lot of attention from this coverage. and im sure fellow strongman would love some new competition imo.

  • @taseenhaider3961
    @taseenhaider3961 26 днів тому

    I traine with stonelifter and a testament to their strength is that if a guy is able to hold 160kg boulder more usual than not he is able to deadlift 300kg plus. I wish u could come and experience first hand

  • @sharr3766
    @sharr3766 29 днів тому +2

    had the same reaction, I love these videos he does, but when I saw the weight of some of these exercises, being a stone lifter myself who went both to basque country and scotland, I was like "yeah no, no ways it really weights that much". I don't get why they inflate it that much, but overall who cares, its not the point of the trip

  • @bruuhhhh
    @bruuhhhh 29 днів тому +1

    Hahaha I was hoping someone would make the monty python reference with the balance

  • @ponyboykurtis4645
    @ponyboykurtis4645 29 днів тому +15

    theres no way that lanky guy about my size swung 408 up to his shoulders like that.
    i would bet money that block is closer to 208 LBS

  • @Lemuelz
    @Lemuelz 29 днів тому +1

    Bromley please review the Matt Disbrow 10week deathbench program!!

  • @Golgi-Gyges
    @Golgi-Gyges 22 дні тому

    I watched that video and questioned the weights too. That one type of lift has the bottom of the upright supporting arm (elbow) resting on the hips. It's a hack for lifting, not a feat of accomplishment.

  • @eliaswormuth3276
    @eliaswormuth3276 8 днів тому

    Maybe the swing is 408 Newtons, aka 92 lbs

  • @berzercher
    @berzercher 28 днів тому

    I love grumpy Bromley

  • @glynnepritchard2526
    @glynnepritchard2526 26 днів тому

    I visited a gutti lifting comp several decades ago... they wouldnt let me touch the stones...

  • @losvatos6714
    @losvatos6714 29 днів тому +1

    Please make a reaction/analyze video reaction of Eddie hall workouts when he was in his strongman period /2014-2017/ . His program is posted online with the little details about every day, the order of the exercises,the purpose etc. and give us your thoughts .

  • @adtjtjdjsj
    @adtjtjdjsj 27 днів тому +1

    Only OG's know that the original title was "I'm sure 97% of those lifts are BS"

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  27 днів тому

      Broooo, that was title no. 2. Pssshhh

    • @adtjtjdjsj
      @adtjtjdjsj 26 днів тому

      @@AlexanderBromley Goddamn it.. gotta be quicker next time🤣

  • @deadandbored
    @deadandbored 28 днів тому

    yea the stone clean at the end, its weights 200lbs at most

  • @pacmanrespector9552
    @pacmanrespector9552 24 дні тому

    Wait youre telling me that the 3rd world has 3rd world ethical standards? Nooooo

  • @sullentamp9140
    @sullentamp9140 24 дні тому

    She turned him into a newt

  • @alexhansen2102
    @alexhansen2102 26 днів тому

    Martins values his life lol. He was in danger from the crowd when they LIKED him. I can't imagine pissing them off would be good for his health, especially being in the middle of nowhere with no avenue of escape.

  • @cglnarcissist5700
    @cglnarcissist5700 29 днів тому +3

    Yea no way they weigh what they think it weighs

    • @martynodonnell
      @martynodonnell 29 днів тому

      Who’s checking the weights?. Is it a possibility that it’s a translation problem. As in the weight, say 200lb is mistranslated as 200KG. It could be something as simple as this.

  • @alexw.8999
    @alexw.8999 19 днів тому

    The Big Book of Pakistani Strongmen is the second shortest book ever written, first being about Italian War Heroes.

  • @bertrandronge9019
    @bertrandronge9019 26 днів тому

    Yeah that build, I'm not even sure that guy could deadlift 420... that's sus af

  • @jasonshults368
    @jasonshults368 24 дні тому

    Don't discount the strength of Montana ranch hands. I live in Montana. The high school kids here often look like pro football players.

  • @austing7254
    @austing7254 22 дні тому

    Since the series already emulates Parts Unknown, perhaps they should take another page from Anthony Bourdain: lay praise where it's earned, and criticise where it's deserved. Obviously, as you mentioned, you're not going to insult your hosts. But in the narration Martins could say something like "yeah I'm not sure those weights are what they say they are, but it's a cool practice anyhow."

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  22 дні тому

      Funny, I had a reference to that and chopped it out because the vibe isn't even kind of the same

    • @austing7254
      @austing7254 21 день тому

      @@AlexanderBromley Fair. Haha

  • @chrisbfreelance
    @chrisbfreelance 28 днів тому

    They looked like cast stone to me, so could be composite meaning regardless of the size do not have the same weight as natural stones.

  • @centerpoint2844
    @centerpoint2844 28 днів тому +1

    The stones they are lifting (in Pakistan) look like sandstones, which can be about 2/3 the weight of an igneous rock, which the ones in strongman look like to me (basalt maybe).

  • @Mark-ef2ly
    @Mark-ef2ly 28 днів тому +1

    Pumice stone

  • @Bjorn_R
    @Bjorn_R 27 днів тому +1

    Try looking up some indian war stories it is absolutely ridiculous and you will find die hard fans of their history insisting that it actually happened and that the numbers arent all fucked up 😂

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  27 днів тому +3

      Yup, all in the comments in IG lol. BS runs deep

  • @bloodysath
    @bloodysath 26 днів тому

    At 5:12 what I find curious is how far he throws the 400+ Pounds stone with one hand from his position

  • @234i9
    @234i9 23 дні тому

    Im calling it, theyre 100% not lifting those numbers.

  • @everythingstrength1485
    @everythingstrength1485 28 днів тому

    I'm no scientist...but that stone doesn't even look like 200kg

  • @NboOfficialAus
    @NboOfficialAus 28 днів тому

    No one that small can pick 408 up with a tiny handle like that and swing it to their shoulder

  • @AW-gg3yw
    @AW-gg3yw 29 днів тому +15

    The weights are way off. Pakistanis and Indians genuinely believe the great gama picked up a 500kg stone and walked around with it. The guy was not that big and you can see photos of the stone online and there's no way its even close to 500kg

    • @user-he4ef9br7z
      @user-he4ef9br7z 28 днів тому

      Ego attached to bullshit history and culture. They also believe Alexander lost to King Porus and he was 7ft tall.

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 27 днів тому +4

      Sorry, but the guy called the great Gamma, his strength and endurance is IMO real. Known to do 700 Hindu squats, and old style Indian wrestling, he out wrestled some of the best in his time, even for how short he was. As ridiculous as lifting 500kg is, it's possible to do. Why? Because people like these existed:
      1. Alexander Zass.
      2. Bruce Lee.
      3. Charles Atlas.
      4. Ray 'boom boom' Mancini.
      5. Rocky Marciano.
      6. Samson.
      7. John Holtum.
      8. Siegmund Breitbart.
      Keep in mind some of these guys had freakish levels of strength, relative to their smaller sizes. It's possible, as unbelievable as it is.

    • @user-he4ef9br7z
      @user-he4ef9br7z 26 днів тому +3

      @@danielnelson3136 1) 501kg is the world record deadlift. It is extremely unlikely somebody would pick a stone of that size.
      2) Samson isn't real.
      3) Some of these people were strong, some of the people you mentioned have absolutely nothing to do with strength
      4) 700 Hindu squats isn't a high number. Indian wrestlers were doing similar numbers pretty frequently

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 26 днів тому +1

      @@user-he4ef9br7z
      1. Yes it's extremely unlikely but not impossible. You're making the same mistakes boomers make assuming a limit, until someone breaks that limit.
      2. Samson is a real person that existed.
      3. All of those people I listed were strong as hell. Don't sleep on old school strongmen and circus strongmen. I don' see Eddie Bravo driving a nail into a board that easily, or breaking chains.
      4. 700 is a high number for average folks, and 700 every day. Can you do 700 everyday? Yeah it's not that easy and Gamma still pulls it off.

    • @user-he4ef9br7z
      @user-he4ef9br7z 26 днів тому

      @@danielnelson3136 It is literally impossible. That would make him multitudes stronger than the world's strongest men.
      Which is more likely, Indians fabricating history to indulge in a sense of pride (which they do all the time) or, one man being magnitudes stronger than everyone that ever existed?
      No. Not all the people you mentioned were strong. You are confusing fighting skill and movement with raw strength.
      Circus acts were very often faked. Who tf is Eddie bravo?

  • @Fitnessheretic
    @Fitnessheretic 28 днів тому +1

    ua-cam.com/video/-_0NWI3F2d4/v-deo.html They're so strong, even an old guy with noodle arms can clean and push press a 200kg stone

  • @zcddrew
    @zcddrew 29 днів тому +12

    I mean all martins had to do was bring a digital scale in his suitcase

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex 29 днів тому +8

      Would have to be one hell of a digital scale though, the ones that'd fit in a suitcase would break under these things.

    • @shycreation9418
      @shycreation9418 29 днів тому +1

      ​​@@zerrodefexconsidering most these are way lighter than they claim, no they wouldnt

    • @shawnmichaud4484
      @shawnmichaud4484 29 днів тому +7

      @@zerrodefex Not really. 450-500lb capacity digital scales are no bigger than a normal bathroom scale. My buddy bought one only a few months ago.

    • @Tom-wk6pv
      @Tom-wk6pv 29 днів тому +5

      You can't do that. You can't go into another culture, in a place you don't know, people you don't know and say "hey, i dont believe you. i think you're full of shit" and pull a scale out. You just can't. Basic stuff

    • @zcddrew
      @zcddrew 28 днів тому +6

      @@Tom-wk6pv why not? If I was lifting a weight I would have zero issue if someone asked to weigh it. Unless I was lying about it

  • @insanezain2
    @insanezain2 18 днів тому

    The weights look like they weigh around half of what they say it is ngl and I'm a pakistani living in the Uk

  • @harrynut3044
    @harrynut3044 28 днів тому +5

    I commented on Martins channel last night that these "People" are known for NOT telling the Truth. No way those little ass guys are wielding around 408lbs rocks. Also....Martins would NEVER call them out either because it would cause controversy in a bad way for what He and Romark are trying to do with Strength Unknown. I've dealt with these folks before....I NEVER Trust the punjabi's....sorry.

    • @Taimur.Shairyar
      @Taimur.Shairyar 19 днів тому

      Why the people in quotation marks? And why aren't we known for not telling the truth?

  • @espenstoro
    @espenstoro 29 днів тому

    Is it an African or European Pakistani?
    Thanks for putting that movie in my head again.

  • @williambittner4601
    @williambittner4601 29 днів тому

    On the topic of weird way to measure weight. I have a friend who only thinks of weight in the GYM by the plates he put on the bar. For example 185lbs is a plate and a 25.

    • @JohnDoe321654
      @JohnDoe321654 29 днів тому

      Or 185 is considered "1.5" plates.

    • @1TieDye1
      @1TieDye1 29 днів тому

      Do if he has a plate and a 25 on, he just doesn’t know it’s 185 kind of thing?

  • @ulhasanzk2249
    @ulhasanzk2249 24 дні тому

    i would bet mpney on that he would have gotten more views if he called them out

  • @methree3821
    @methree3821 27 днів тому

    Pakistan doesn’t care much for it's people let alone sportsmen and women, except cricketers. You see that in the lack of investment in sports like this. That is why you don't see them at high level competitions. But natural talent, traditions and passion are there. And another thing, politics means that the West, in general, also keeps them down. Especially nowadays. Much love and respect to Martin for breaking that mould. That is what humanity is about! ❤

  • @markovasil1608
    @markovasil1608 28 днів тому

    Martins Licis………. martiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins

  • @Velothi1
    @Velothi1 29 днів тому +20

    Hmmmm, for the first half of the video i got the feeling this was going to be content that was kinda "beneath" you. Reactive, negative for the sake of it, hard to make quality content consistently so let's just fill a gap with this one. You really saved it at the end there, acknowledging the position martins is in and emphasizing you could be wrong about the weights.i think it's clear when watching strength unknown that the intention is to document strength culture that is niche (from a global perspective) and/or in danger of being lost; that has seemed explicit from the beginning of the show. Maybe some people got a rosy-eyed message from the show but ive always felt it's primarily documentation and entertainment. I've loved everything you've put out so far. What I think makes you "Bromley" is that you always add some nuance and you bring it back to basic principles and critical thinking. Best in the strength world for that rn i would argue. I will say this is the first video where I worried that this would be the future content of the channel (reaction drama). It wasn't that, but that's a worry i have. (I can bitch about things for the sake of it just fine on my own thank you, i don't desire to watch someone else do it). Just hit the peak phase on Bullmastiff and I'm loving/hating it, so thanks for that.

    • @justinstuart9109
      @justinstuart9109 29 днів тому +2

      "What I think makes you 'Bromley' is that you always add some nuance and you bring it back to basic principles and critical thinking." Totally agree with this statement. It's why I've continued to follow his channel.

    • @trc7343
      @trc7343 28 днів тому

      @@justinstuart9109 same

  • @Mr.Mavericke
    @Mr.Mavericke 27 днів тому

    I knew i wasn't the only one thanking gtfoh is that one hand balance lift stone 100kg, I would be impressed if it was 60kg or 65kg.

  • @Sealedstitch
    @Sealedstitch 25 днів тому

    Would they have physical adaptations from doing it their way for so long? How long have they been lifting things with that type of posture? It so strange looking. I would immediately have an injury trying it that way. I'll give them their flowers; I can't even begin to try squatting like that.

  • @buckybryan550
    @buckybryan550 29 днів тому

    Its simple. They did the math using lbs instead of kgs. Like many i enjoy Martins videos. But I do take them for what they are, entertainment.

  • @SlickRieck
    @SlickRieck 26 днів тому

    A lot of indian stone lifters do this frauding, especially when it comes to the stone gada, inflated numbers all around

  • @trigularity
    @trigularity 29 днів тому +6

    when you minmax strength

  • @simonlongworth191
    @simonlongworth191 29 днів тому

    Yeah the numbers are utter bollocks, but well done them for heaving rocks for fun!!

  • @eversor10
    @eversor10 29 днів тому +17

    I saw this and my gut was that it was crap

    • @davorzdralo8000
      @davorzdralo8000 29 днів тому

      Yeah, those stones just look too... bouncy? for what they say they weigh.

    • @theavglifter
      @theavglifter 29 днів тому +1

      We do have crap in our gut.

    • @eversor10
      @eversor10 29 днів тому +1

      @@theavglifter hilarious

    • @theavglifter
      @theavglifter 29 днів тому

      @@eversor10 Not when it's gaseous

  • @likemy
    @likemy 28 днів тому

    there's a reason why your physician's office still uses balance scales.

    • @deadandbored
      @deadandbored 28 днів тому +4

      to suggest those balance scales are the same as the ones used by physicians is like saying a 20 year old toyota corolla has the same horse power as a lambo cz they are both cars

    • @theulysses7236
      @theulysses7236 28 днів тому +6

      My physician also famously uses random bricks and metal bits of junk as counterweight for his scale. Apparently I weigh 800 lbs. 🙃

  • @your9to5job82
    @your9to5job82 29 днів тому

    Man's gotta eat I guess!!!

  • @combinemax
    @combinemax 28 днів тому

    The only way to know for sure would be air dropping healthy mateusz there and giving him some decent money for every successful lift
    I bet you it would be the show of a lifetime

  • @ShrimppClips
    @ShrimppClips 28 днів тому

    Why didn’t talk about them using a digital scale..

  • @kryphtospk8206
    @kryphtospk8206 28 днів тому +3

    I think the easiest way to tell the swinging lift particularly is a bit of a stretch is, what would does it look like to move a 400lb kettlebell? those don't even exist, and even very strong kettlebell lifters rarely clean more than 200lbs like that, so to suggest that those are 400lbs is ridiculous.

    • @wanksey5693
      @wanksey5693 26 днів тому +1

      kettlebell aint this and no one claims this , ur putting a strawmam argument😂😂😂 kettleballs need more balance holdin up , this block rests on shoulder ur funny

  • @user-uj8cx3dw3r
    @user-uj8cx3dw3r 29 днів тому

    Im pakistani every village has a stone that dudes love picking up for competition. I never saw it but everyone always spoke of so and so who lifted so and so kg but not sure about the validity of it.

  • @NorthStrongSC
    @NorthStrongSC 29 днів тому

    Wow grape!

  • @Lee-ic2yn
    @Lee-ic2yn 5 днів тому

    I said this in a comment and you should have seen the hate 😂

  • @mikeblxde4735
    @mikeblxde4735 28 днів тому +2

    If you were to train these specific movements for years, you'd probably master the strength and technique too. Yes the numbers do sound high, but I doubt they're lying about the weight tbh.

  • @BuJammy
    @BuJammy 29 днів тому

    Yeah, the weights are bullshit, but they are "heavy". I've seen a half-dozen different types of stone lifting in South Asia, and the guys that "catch" the stone in the deep squat are the strongest of the different styles. They have one forearm that's so much bigger than the other they look mal-formed. There are some huge dudes in the "shield" style too.

  • @StraitjacketFitness
    @StraitjacketFitness 29 днів тому +1

    🎉