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- In 1940, the British Royal Air Force fights a desperate battle to prevent the Luftwaffe from gaining air superiority over the English Channel as a prelude to a possible Axis invasion of the U.K.
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The Battle of Britain (1969)
Directed by Guy Hamilton
Screenplay by James Kennaway & Wilfred Greatorex
Cast: Harry Andrews, Michael Caine, Trevor Howard, Curt Jurgens, Ian McShane, Kenneth More, Laurence Olivier, Nigel Patrick, Christopher Plummer, Michael Redgrave, Ralph Richardson, Robert Shaw, Patrick Wymark, Susannah York
Rated G
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The models used in this film were all made by a chap called Mick Charles who owned a ran a model shop in south London until it closed five or so years ago.
You mean the Stuka's? they were the only models used for the film, the rest were all real aircraft.
The shop was in Frimley Green,Surrey. A very large model of the Henkel 111 could be seen in the window shop front until the early 80’s. As a teenager we would drive past quite often on the way to see our grandparents in Deepcut. We did stop to take a look on a number of occasions.
Yep , I used to be a regular there.
@@johnmorris7815 interesting. I imagine the shop is now closed. It was a very regular drive for our family from The Solent to Deepcut to visit our grandparents.
@@gdwlaw5549 I think so, Mick’s son took over for a time but I guess it closed a few years back.
I was living in Luton at the time this film was made. Most of the aircraft flew from Duxford , but I was surprised to see a Spitfire fly over so I went to the airport & saw it plus one other I think put away in Hunting’s old flight shed,but my biggest surprise was when the aerial filming aircraft turned up. It was a B25 painted in very garish colours. The irony of this was that it was older than the Messerschmidt’s & Heinkel’s taking part which were Spanish license built & fitted with Rolls-Royce Merlin engines. that can be seen by the exhaust coming out of the top of the engine cowling instead of the bottom. I hope this is of some interest. I think I still have a couple of photographs I took at the time.
Most of the sky combat was actually filmed in Spain as better weather conditions.The more limited scenes actually over Dover England were then inserted , such as the cliffs.Even in 1968-69 there were limitations in the number of flyable spitfires left - hence the Spanish airforce collection was useful.
@@robharris8844U The filming in Spain would explain the German aircraft not being seen in England ,plus the availability of appropriate aircraft.
@@alantunbridge8919 Yes, the German planes were from Spain ( left over from the help they gave Franco possibly) Fantastic job done on the scenes though, when you realise CGi did not exist, I think the special effect of the day was painted planes on glass to make the numbers in formation look larger.
The B25 camera plane was also used for "633 Squadron". It can be glimpsed in that movie, supposedly being used as the aircraft being used to carry George Chikiris back to Norway.
@@raypurchase801 The mention of 633 Squqdron also brings back memories. During my apprenticeship at Hunting Aircraft ,in probably 1964, when I was working in the Stress Office I heard a noise & looking up I saw a Mosquto at low level heading above the then airport approach road closely followed by two more . Rushing to the window I saw the last one do a barrel roll over the airfield & disappear in the general direction of Hatfield. My father worked at DH in WW2 buiding them (Percival,later Hunting Aircraft also built them) & I still have a toolbox he made incorporating some Mosquito plywood.
I love the scene with Edward Fox bailing out and landing in the greenhouse, the young boy is so proud to offer that cigarette. “Thanks awfully old chap”
This looks like it was must've been based on an actual incident, but I can't find any reference in the books I've read.
@@raypurchase801 It is often said to be the depiction of the actions of RAF Sgt Pilot Ray Holmes of 504 sqd Fighter Command on 15th September 1940.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 THANKS! I'm also curious about the scene where Robert Shaw's squadron leader speaks to the corporal with the German prisoners. "Give 'em a bloody shovel". Like most of the scenes in the movie, it's probably based on an actual incident.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie!
@@josephstevens9888 "You can teach monkeys to fly better than that!"
IMO the finest aerial combat scenes in any movie ever. And real aircraft; no CGI (Except for the burning 109) and models used only when that type didn't exist (eg JU87) or they wanted to show a crash.
It's not even conventional CGI, think they had to draw the special effects onto the negative film one frame at a time? Something like that - hours and hours of work.
CGI wasn't used in movies until much later during the mid 70's onwards and "perfected" with Jurassic Park (1993), which is the digital motion capture type CGI we have today.
@@barniem3148 They did have to draw it out. By hand. The technology to do it mechanically didn't exist back then so they had to draw it out during editing. Cartoonists were hired to do the job since they knew how to do it and all cartoons were hand drawn cell-by-cell back in those days.
No CGI because there weren't really any computers.
Agree, wonderful movie, but... Dunkirk?
@@garyeastmentDunkirk's aerial bits are rubbish (if you are talking about the recent film).
Imagine acting with just the eyes and conveying that kind of intensity. No CGI in existance can match these classics.
The scene where the Luftwaffe bombers flying up the Thames towards London i think i was about 9 when my dad, an ex RN veteran just got up and walked thru the front door (i followed) and stood looking up east towards Woolwich in the east when about 40-50 planes appeared out of the sky heading towards the city .The rumble of engines i hadn't noticed but he had. I remember the noise and the people running out of there houses to see what the fuss was about as my mum ( who lived thru the blitz) took one look and said F**k this and ran back inside.
A beautifully crafted film. Authentic, accurate and anointed.
The contemporary films don’t even get close.
I salute these brave young men.
They died for nothing.
This awful film was a huge flop.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw Expressing your hatred like this suggests you'd prefer the OTHER side to have won.
@@raypurchase801 We should have allied with Germany against the real threat.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw wow what a fool you are.
That and Tora Tora Tora were brilliant movies, neither got the commercial appreciation they deserved.
I happened to visit the Oberschleissheim branch of the Deutsches Mus yrs ago (2001?) which is a former Luftwaffe airfield. It features a restoration center and from the observation deck, I could see what looked like an He-111 fuselage being restored. I thought it had to be one from the movie. I conned my way into the area and was given an impromptu tour by a super nice resto guy there and he confirmed it was one of planes used in the BOB movie - a CASA used by the Spanish AF. Since it's my favorite movie, it was a life experience for me to make such a connection.
The flying sequences using authentic aircraft in this film are still awesome.
The sound design in these sequences is fantastic.
If they all, the German, British, Polish, French and Dutch could see Europe now. Sad state.
This movie deserves a fresh, digitally cleaned up print, and a major theatrical re-release.
Wouldn't be allowed a general release today.
Too many w height people.
No subplot about transgender aircrew seeking acceptance in a homophobic environment.
@@raypurchase801 People were not interested in this racist film in 1969.
@@raypurchase801 The film flopped in 1969.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw No. The film was a success, but it had gone over budget and it took a couple more decades to claw back the expenditure. Nothing unusual in that.
@@raypurchase801 It was a massive flop all over the world, losing $10 million and bankrupting the terrorist supporter Saltzman.
The SOUND of those SPITFIRES… GOOSE BUMPS!!! Ear candy!
A timeless classic among all WW II air battle movies. I believe this movie proved very inspirational for the making of "Dunkirk" by Christopher Nolan in 2017 (if I am not mistaken).
The spitfires sequences were well done. Nice touch with Michael Caine as the controller.
I was thinking exactly that while watching it.
Dunkirk is better original version in 1958
@@benlewis2475 Michael Caine was the Squadron Leader
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel I know. But I was referring to the film Dunkirk where he was the voice of the controller.
Quint survived and went on to hunt sharks for a living.
2:01 you can’t beat the sound of that Merlin
FUN FACT: Only two Heinkels were brought over to England, to be filmed alongside Spitfires and Hurricanes. The "wide" shots of massed Heinkels were filmed above Spain. The sky looks pretty-much the same everywhere. Cleverly interspersing the shots of two Heinkels with the massed formation makes it look like all the shots were filmed in the same place on the same day.
Fun Fact: The "Henkels" from Spain had Rolls Royce Merlin engines
@@asicdathensNearly all the full sized aircraft, both British and German/Spanish were powered by Merlin V12s.
One of the most important battles in WW2 it essentially decided the fate of our Country.
It ensured the UK would be a satellite of the United States, Europe would be Communist and Islamic, and the British Empire would cease to exist.
Yes and no. Germany was not really in a position to invade successfully.
correct. During the Norway campaign, the Wehrmacht paratroopers seized many Norway airfields and the Luftwaffe immediately had those available to attack the British Navy at Narvik. All, literally all they had to show was a Tribal Class destroyer and a completley outdated, 25 year old light crusier sunk in two months. They repeatedly sortied against the Royal Navy in the North Sea and failed to sink anything else.
In return, HMS Warspite, an old WW1 Dreadnaught, steamed into the 4th destroyer flotilla and sunk all eight Kriegsmarine destroyers without losing a single ship. That was just one capital ship, and the British had dozens of those.
The Luftwaffe was not the Imperial Japanese Navy. They were downright awful at sinking warships. Air superiority would not have helped. @@thethirdman225
Now you guys can't even keep out all the migrants coming into your country.
The Battle of Kursk is surely the confrontation which was the most decisive in terms of the outcome of WW2
当時スペイン空軍にあったハインケルと
メッサーシュミット(ライセンス生産機)を
残らず調達して当時のカラーリングに
しました。さすがにスピットファイアと
ホーカーハリケーンは動態保存の良い機体が
沢山あってこの映画は出来上がりました。
ここまで細部に渡り見せてくれた映画は
他にはありませんわ❤
The Film will never be real flying sequences like these ever again.
2:54 dang, that’s probably my favorite scene
Marvellous stuff, and no CGI.
One of the best airborne combat scenes ever made. Couldn’t make it today
What makes you say that?
Now they often don't even need real hardware. Computer work is very realistic. Star Wars certainly was not filmed in space, was it!
@@minerran Agreed, as long as they don't make a Spitfire fly like an F-16.
so well done movie it holds up today
I remember many moons ago (the late 70's I think) going to an airshow at RAF Finningly and seeing one of the Heinkel cockpits they used in this movie.
Keith Park, now there was a leader.
Agreed. Definiterly.
Yeah but Dowding was the man who made the real difference, he pushed for the chain home radar system and urged Churchill to withhold those fighter squadrons from being wasted in the French campaign, had those squadrons been lost we'd have had nothing left to defend the UK with later.
I Acknowledge he was an organiser but Dowding was the main man.
Love this movie. In my collection 👍
One of my all time faves👍
Real film!No cgi.....
Best movie ❤️
Had the book of how the movie was made. Lots of American pilots owned spitfires and flew as a part of the film in 1969.
I think you are referring to the Confederate Air Force. They owned three Hispano Buchons and they were used in the production, flown by CAF pilots lead by the late Connie Edwards.
The German aircraft were loaned by the Spanish Air Force.
@@Bruce-1956 That is true but the Spanish Air Force had already agreed to sell three of the Buchons to the Confederate Air Force. An agreement was struck in which these three would take part in the film along with the other Buchons , but flown by CAF pilots.
@@colinbarron4 Thanks, I vaguely recall reading that.
Yes, I read that book as a kid.
Still got it somewhere.
One of my favourite movies of all time.
It is a racist flop.
1:27 - this maneuver looks nice.
Awesomeness
Super video.😇
The unsung hero of the battle was the Hurricane whose priority target was the Luftwaffe bombers.
Absolutely. Why does the Hurricane never receive much praise? Yes, I know the Spitfire was a more capable aircraft, but the Hurricane was also a great little fighter. I just wish our awesome cousins across the pond had more powerful machine guns... at least the .50 cal.
Seems like ejection problems kept the mighty 20mm Hispano out of the fight... not sure though.
Ah the standard old youtube reply. Why can we never watch anything about Spitfires without 'But it was the Hurricane that did all the work, the hurricane this, the hurricane that'...There is a myth that the Hurricanes went after the bombers and the Spitfires took on the fighters, but in reality they both took on whatever was in front, pilot histories bear this out. But the fact remains that only 1/3 of fighter command had Spitfires and they still scored 46% of the kills, a much higher ratio than Hurricanes. You were also far more likely to be shot down in a Hurricane. If we had had only Hurricanes we would have been in trouble. Hurricanes had a ratio of I hurricane lost for every 1.6 German machines, whereas the Spitfire had a ratio of 1 Spitfire lost to every 2.3 German machines. I'm not interested in which was the 'true' hero of the battle of Britain, They were BOTH the true heroes and I love both aeroplanes, but can we for once just enjoy a clip of Spitfires without the tedious 'but the Hurricane......'
@@MrVolvobloke Well Done for opposing the myth about Hurricanes targeting the bombers whereas the Spitfires targeted the fighters. A myth so frequently repeated, it's become accepted fact.
Amazing movie. Also.....Michael Caine did a 'cameo' as squadron leader on Dunkirk as a voice!
This film was garbage. Caine was far too old, like most of the others playing pilots.
I like how even back then they used simple electronics to track the progress of a battle.
RAF Fighter Command was the first centralised data clearing centre in the world.
Inputs from the Met Office, Home Chain RDF (radar), Observer Corps, signal interceptions etc and reports from the aircraft and RAF bases themselves.
Back then, the UK led the world in TV, telecoms, radio etc.
All thrown away.
And they managed all that without Johnny Mills! A good day's work, gentlemen!
See now the .303 machine guns weren't actually as fast firing, as is depicted in the film. But I won't lie from the first time I watched it, I love how fast they sound
"Leave the flaming fighters....it's the bloody bombers we want...."
As spoken by Douglas Bader during the Battle, but he used a different F-word.
According to Bader's biography, the word got him into trouble because it was overheard by the many WAAFs on duty.
This is a fantastic film, I cant believe it was made in 1969. Incredible filming and effects.
I watch it right through, it makes me proud to be British.
Of course nowadays, BBC wouldn't show it in case it offends the Germans, or not WOKE enough because all the actors are white.
The film was a huge flop, with very bad special effects and very obvious models.
The battle is why England is Islamic now.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw
Grow up muppet.
@@daneelolivaw602 Churchill was bribed by Strakosch.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw
Still a muppet i see.
@@daneelolivaw602 Churchill openly confirmed it.
1:33 “Roger Red 3, I see them” followed by the enemy fighters banking exactly the way the incoming TIEs do
TIEs???
@@kirkp7470 I believe he is referring to Imperial TIE fighters featured in the George Lucas Star Wars movies. Lucas studied old fighter dogfight films to base the movements of his CGI and model Star Wars fighters on.
1:48-2:00 The spit showing a great demonstration how much more manoeuvrable it was to the 109
The Me109 had a far better power-weight ratio thanks to its DB fuel-injected 601 engine, which actually gave it the edge especially at high altitude. Surprisingly, it was nearly as manoeverable as the Spitfire, but only Aces would really take it to the edge because of its very unpredictable stall at low speed; also the 'Emile' had a bit of a reputation for weakness and the wings and tail tended to fall off if you tried to flog it too hard, which put off a lot of pilots from trying to 'dance with a Spit', as Galland puts it in his autobiography. Funnily enough, Galland preferred fighting Spitfires as he always said they were easier to shoot down than the Hurricane... he certainly got a lot of them so perhaps he knew what he was talking about...
German aeroplanes were far better.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw Don't think there was that much to choose between the Spit and the Me109. The Hurricane was a little slower and had a poorer rate of climb, but could absorb more punishment, was more forgiving to novices and was very easier to maintain/repair, as well as manufacture.
@@xj900uk The UK and its defunct empire was only a satellite of the United States by 1941.
@@xj900uk Spitfire pilots had no problem shooting down more 109s than the other way around, anyway later Mks of Spitfires were vastly superior to the 109 and the FW 190.
great Film
Amazing really when the totality of firepower was about 17 seconds from start to finish. Short bursts men!!!
The film is actually called 'Battle of Britain' not 'The Battle of Britain.' However, when production first started it was to be called 'The Battle of Britain.'
Top guns of their day please restore this film to be enjoyed and revered by a new generation
People no longer support imperialist wars.
Timeless movie 👍🎥✈️
We had the finger of three at the time in fighter formation. The Germans with their 'four' were far more effective.
Though it was always cool that their was Sargeant Pilots in the RAF 🇬🇧
Christopher Nolan definitely made nods to this movie in Dunkirk. Many similar shots that were no doubt inspired by this.
Michael Caine in both, in Dunkirk, he's on the radios as the leader of the Spitfires.
Ok i feel for the German air men sorry
0:33 "We're Red Squad, we can do anything!"
Spitfire was amazing! Rolls Royce engine and could out manoeuvre a 109 on a hurricane dive
Got the LP of the music from the film.
Yes it sums up Great British and makes us Great
Britain had ceased to be great by the 1930s.
It even had Winston from John Wick.
It was back in 1940 when he first heard the lines:
"Go do what you do best."
"What's that?"
"Hunt."
My mother was a wraf at stanmore
And biggin she never mentioned
Much about her time there
Obviously rather traumatic!
The scene in the movie, about a direct hit on a slit-trench full of WAAFs, really happened.
ロバート・ショウの声が好き！
絵作りが美しい！
Very authentic, except for the old pilots.
True, but if you look at photos of the aircrew taken in WW2, they often looked much older than their years. Heavy strain, the risk of death, being woken at 3am to be ready for 6am raids and a barely-adequate diet will do that to you.
What is the music from right at the end of the video?
Dakka Dakka Dakka
How in Jesus's green land they made aerial sequences like this?
With a helluva lot of work and a helluva lot of pre-planning down to the smallest detail.
Experienced pilots.
The Few.
Myth.
The whole 9 yards - which refers to the 27 feet of ammunition for each gun on a hurricane or spitfire.
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Are you serious? Fighting for freedom and giving your life is not the same as what you just said. Guessing you never served in the military, you just sat back and let others do it for you. My friend you are a coward!!!!!!
GET OUT ANDY, JUMP !!!!
When a heavily - laden bomber, albeit flown well by a crew of "Eperten" but equipped with only one effectively operating defensive machine gun tries to evade or fight off a vengeful attack by a more agile enemy fighter firing EIGHT equivalent machine guns, the air battle gets desperate, hopeless and even fatal for the former.
The tables are turned, though, when their canon - firing escorts join the fray, now "evening out the odds"!
Looks like Seven Sisters near Eastbourne? Is that correct?
Yes. Couldn't see my house though.
Top Gun takes the cake, but Battle of Britain, Midway and Blue Max get thumbs ups!
You jest of course.
Give me a squadron of Spitfires.
Fake quotation.
These lads saved the free world…nuff said
They made Europe Communist and Islamic.
How can you get it wrong when the advisers were actually there.
Curiosity, the diretor of air batlle in this movie has a anciant German pilot and veteran this batlle! (Sorry mi english fail)
Your English is OK!
Many German and British veterans advised in this movie.
@@raypurchase801 ...and they were not old in 1969! Maybe 46-60 years old.
@@kirkp7470 It was intended to invite the South African ace "Sailor" Malan, but he was very ill and couldn't come. The special edition DVD has lots of interesting commentary. The person wearing the white jacket in the Luftwaffe mess scenes was himself a veteran of the Battle. He was an advisor and was given a walk-on part.
Great movie, except they all forgot to wear parachutes!
Schnell! Raus! Jawhol!
"Achtung - Spitfire!"
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Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Rhodesia, South Africa,. Jamaica, Free French, Czechoslovakia and Poland 303 Squadron were very much involved as the few
US volunteers the RAF Eagle Squadron were up in the sky's over Kent against their governments neutrality.
Yes, big thanks to the.
126 New Zealanders
98 Canadians
33 Australians
25 South Africans
145 Polish
88 Czechs
10 Irish
11 Americans (US)
2,345 British
We thank them all.
There were no Eagle Squadrons in the Battle of Britain.
South Africa should have remained neutral.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw Shut up Na*i boy.
@@dalj4362
You forgot to mention a few countries and their brave pilots, who also fought in the BoB.
Barbados 1
Belgium 28
France 13
Jamaica 1
Newfoundland 1
Rhodesia 3
God bless every single one of them.
The problem of using in-line engines is that one shot in the engine manifolds can virtual stop the plane. Unlike radial , one shot in the one radical cylinders won't be effective.
Radial engines have too large a cross section, so cause too much drag, Hence why most piston engine aircraft were water cooled in-line engines
The weakness of a liquid - cooled engine like the RR Merlin is that even a single bullet anywhere in the cooling system can cause the engine to overheat and seize.
@@colinbarron4 All true. The USAAF preferred Thunderbolts to Mustangs for ground-strafing in '44 and '45,. Mustangs had vulnerable cooling systems and many were lost.
The statement is wrong here, the fighters were actually mostly Hawker Hurricanes.
Mostly, but not solely.
Anyone else realize how much this feels like the death star space battle from Star Wars: A New Hope at points?I wonder if George Lucas was inspired by this
Nah, but I expect Lucas watched "633 Squadron" and "The Dambusters".
It’s a know fact the attack on the Death Star is based on 633 squadron @@raypurchase801
Wonder How many forgot to pull the rip cord
Slightly under 50% of British fighter pilots in the Battle survived a shoot-down, and most of those did manage to return to action.
Sportingly, the German's didn't shoot parachuting British pilots very often. And the British, under orders of Winston Churchill, weren't allowed to shoot parachuting Germans...the argument was they would be captured anyway..and the British then put them in a very agreeable stately home hotel where they happily chatted away to each other about the merits of the various tactics used, the performance of the different aircraft etc unaware that everything was recorded!
@@richardsimpson3792 A similar discussion took place in the Luftwaffe a couple of years later.
The aircrew and commanders all agreed they wouldn't shoot a man in a parachute.
Per ardua ad astra
This film was made on Spain. Without the old Heinkels 111 and Me 109 od the civil este of Spain was imposible of filmer
Some of it was filmed in Spain
A big thanks to Franco...
Some, no,no,no..... All
Were the frames of the Spitfire crashing into the sea at 2:50 cut or am I experiencing the Mandela effect?
I think that cut is as it is in the movie - they used that sort of cut a number of times, as obviously they could not actually crash them - smoke flare then the plane would go out of shot of the camera and scene cut to another scene. Crashes seen from above at distance were plane models so the camera did not dwell on the scene as it would effect excitement and that it was a model would become evident.
This scene takes place about half way through the film, the scene of the Spitfire going all the way down to the beach was, I think in the final climactic battle towards the end just before the final scenes of the RAF pilots waiting around for the enemy who weren't coming after the invasion was called off.
@@plymouth5714 Ah, that makes sense; knew I'd seen it somewhere. Thanks.
@@plymouth5714 Yes, and you can unfortunately tell it is a mock-up of plywood and balsa wood- notice the edit quickly from the scene. It adds to the excitement though.
@@robharris8844U There were MANY models in the film. I enjoy the paper fighters on the ground blowing up! You see several 'wrinkled' planes on the ground...paper and wood...
実際には英国空軍はパイロットが足らず、ポーランドなどからパイロットを調達した模様。
The 109 sounds better in real life
Not if you are British.
1:20
GET OUT ANDY JUMP!!!
If only the Luftwaffe crews knew for what they were fighting. M
To stop Communism.
Sad thing is ...these guys were real men ...the country survived because of these guys and the troops on ground ..epic people..now wat about today ...pathetic culture ...my god .. no comparison ❤
Churchill destroyed the UK and Europe.
CGI looks amazing, they actually look like proper old peoples aircraft.
Sorry. No CGI in 1969. They had to use real aircraft instead.
@@Armadacon You didnt get i was being ironic?
@@superflyguy4488 It would've been ironic if the movie was made a few years ago. As the the movie was released in 1969. The irony fell flat on its face.
@@Armadacon You dont have children do you, maybe thats why you dont get it.
@@superflyguy4488 I saw this movie in a Cinema when it come out in 1969. What is there to get? As for children. Where do they figure in the equation?
Kinda impossible to beat the 8 .50 cals of the P-47 Thunderbolt
Beat TLS out of a couple of 20mm and two .303 Mgs of the Spifire
Didn't exist in 1940.
Yet ANOTHER clueless yankee commenter who thinks they won WW2 alone. Listen Cletus, at the time that the RAF were fielding fighters with 8x .303 brownings, the USAAF were pootling about the skies with the P40 Warhawk, which at the time carried two light barrelled .50 cals and two .30 or .303 cals.
Give over with your Yankee BS, in 1940 the RAF would have wiped the USAAF from the skies.
Essex
Nimitz
Not sure if true or not 400 gallons of fuel a hour
captain from Jaws?
I thought spitfire could take
more hits before going down
because it was a heavy fighter
The Spitfire then was an interceptor.
Later marks (models) could carry bombs, had larger cannon weapons, and the last Spitfires were more than twice as powerful and twice as heavy, and could take on many roles.
At the time of the Battle of Britain (mid 1940 to that winter), it had eight .303 machine guns and flew short sorties to intercept and attack bomber formations, up to five times a day.
thanxs
"Sailor" Malan ("Skipper") said he would sometimes let one go- shot up and smoking- to help demoralize the staff back at the German aerodromes.
German bombers were designed to be as fast or faster than the fighters of their day. Unfortunately for them, the fighters continued to gain in speed, and by the time bombers such as the Heinkel He 111 came into service they were outpaced by the Spitfires and Hurricanes.
German design relied on that speed to negate the need for fighter escort, and also to minimize the need for defensive armament such as in the heavy bombers of the Allies (Lancasters & Flying Fortresses). This forced the Germans into a series of compromises trying to hold to the original design, while adding machineguns in defense.
The outcome was fleets of bombers that did neither job (bombing nor defending themselves) well. Proof is in their defeat during the Battle of Britain, which on paper at the outset seemed unthinkable.
Germany did not lose the battle.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw uh huh, and how did operation sea lion fare?
@@denneledoe873 Sea Lion was a deliberate bluiff while the Axis prepared for Barbarossa, as Galland and von Rundstedt confirmed in July 1940.