Love your videos, but please re-do this test with the same foams in each. Preferably Proline dual stage or crawler innovations Lil' Nova dual stage. I would really want to see the difference in the tires themselves rather than which has better single stage foam.
I just switched from Predator compound Hyrax's to Rock beast XL's in Alien compound. Mainly for the scale aspect. That being said, I LOVE my hyrax's and do not plan on getting rid of them. I'm gonna buy another set of rims to keep them on so I can switch between the 2
That is true. They break in really well. By the third battery pack, they reach their full potential. One thing a wise man told us is to was any brand new tire vigorously, twice with a stiff brush and dish soap. this will get the oils out that are on the tire left during the manufacturing process. We will do this on all other tire videos and not evaluate them absolutely brand new.
We’ve got a few videos on our channel of 2 TRX’s crawling with rockbeasts and the hyrax where you can compare the 2 different tyres; we’ve always found the rockbeasts are much more effective over nearly all terrain... just to clarify too, both TRX’s are stock other than cosmetic changes
It’s not a direct comparison but you can decide for yourself what you think of them from watching them👇🏼👇🏼 ua-cam.com/video/YOryRB3X9BU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/IWmmKVDz3rk/v-deo.html We’ve another with the two sets going live tonight, but yeah both are using the foams that came with the tyres, maybe it’s the area we live because of the smooth rocks and grainy dirt but we’ve just never really gotten on with the hyrax too well... Having said that, the Hyrax have only been used a handful of times and we didn’t like the rock beasts at first either because they just seemed to struggle with everything before they were worn in, so maybe I’m saying all of this a little too prematurely but like I said from what we’ve experienced so far, the rockbeasts are our preferred of the two
RCReview were south west UK but the area where we are specifically it’s quite grainy and rough dirt but the majority of rock is pretty smooth, we’ll just have to keep them running to see if we find any difference when they’ve been worn in a little🤷🏻♂️
Would be nice you doo a tire test monthly on the same track,because there so many different crawler tires on the market but no one know which tire for which terrain is best to choose.please put a wet part inside your test track. My Hyrax G8 dont like to gripping on wet concrete!
To be a completely fair fight, you should of used the same rims and foams between the tires, that way the only variable is just the tires, I have rock beasts on 3 of my own, and I have no issues with them
Rarely do I use stock inserts, the inserts are the only way I know of to fine tune any tire, yet I've been known to use racing inserts with Rovers so, they have a floopy top and a strong sidewall. I love the Hyrax & the Pitbulls, different strokes for different terrain
Appreciate your input. What inserts do you recommend? We want ot use a standard one for our testing. Also, where does the Hyrax excel in your opinion? The Pitbulls?
Is the truck in the video a trx4 Sport with a Bronco body? If so what brand body is this? Thank you for your time and reviews. I am looking to get a new body for my trx 4 Sport and tires,foams and steel wheels.
Great video Im running the Rock Beast II Akien kompound 2.2's on my Trx4 79 Bronco with the long arm lift & it gets around pretty good for a lifted Trx4 other than ture rubbing I have no complaints in these tires,may have to check out the hyrax though.
Everyone forgets about the Proline Flatiron XLs. I run these and they perform as well if not better than both of these tires. The bad side to them are the stock memory foams are way too soft for a heavy truck. Please do a test on Flatirons I would love another opinion with the good and bad comparison you do in your videos.
At 1:12 if you had a hardbody with weight would those tires gripped more? I love hardbodies and that's all I run. I want new tires but need something for a heavy truck. What would you recommend or anybody recommend.
non moving weight on the axle as low as possible is what you want, a heavier hard body is only going to make matters worse even tho I agree they look great. the hardbody causes high centering which in turn lifts & or flips the truck. you want everything from the axles up as light weight as possible, only use brass on the hubs, Portals, castors etc.... Good luck
& any of these tires would work great for you, but if you have a heavier rig 8lbs plus I recommend you run 2 stage foams. I own Rockbeast 2 xl, Hyrax, flat irons, Krawlers there all great I lean towards the Rockbeast tho they're phenomenal in all conditions & a scale tire. hyrax are from scale but perform great...
Can you compare the G8 compound with the predator? I've been on the fence about ordering a quality set of rock tires but still not sure what's best. Like everyone I want maximum grip on all surfaces and decent tread life! I'm sure that tire doesn't exist yet lol.
For grip, Predator compound is softer, tackier and better. It will outclimb the G8 in dry and wet in almost all conditions. It's downside is it will wear faster and can get damaged torn easier when abused or caught in bind.
I think you should use the same foams in the tires, I assume most people upgrade to a dual stage foam like CI. Or maybe do stock foams and then dual stage foam comparison.
I would like to see more testing including wet rocks, wood, dirt and mud. I found that hyrax didn't hook up well on the wood section of my local hobby shop's coarse especially when it was wet.
@@RCReviewChannel they don't do bad on wet rocks but I would like to see them up against the rock beasts. Here is my old scx10 with hyrax tires crawling up a little waterfall. ua-cam.com/video/scgXtEb5Y9g/v-deo.html
I've been driving the KLR Gold for 3 years and they still perform. Recently bought Hyrax G8(too hard for my light comp rig), Hyrax Predator (medium compound so I've got no faith in those either.) Louise Champ (very soft sticky rubber)matches KLR Gold on straight up dry conditions buts corners worse. Heavily modded Louise Griffin (super soft)shows promise at the moment. Removed every other outer lug, and one lug at center pattern to open it up. Really made a huge improvement! I will buy the KLR Rex when those can be found at a reasonable cost on ebay. My testing only applies to dry conditions and a light rig.
Not a fair comparison at all. The variable here is the foam. Run this comparison using the same insert in both tires and you’ll see a much difference result.
Nice video , I have a question which it’s the best configured,the tires and rings or wheels 1.9 or 2.2 and suspension which it’s the correct size , like always hi from Costa Rica 🇨🇷🇨🇷🇨🇷🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@RCReviewChannel What are the Proline part numbers you used for the Hyrex and the foams? There are several versions. I love my 2.2 Hyrex on my Axial Wraith.
I would go for KLR Gold or Silver. Silver is tiny bit harder than gold, but matches the weight of that car. Hyrax isnt in the same performance class.. I dont want to sound like a fan boy but there is so misinformation on the net, there's a reason the KLR is often sold out!
@@impuls60 Good advice, but I'm located in the EU and Ottsix is not available over here. By the time I order it from the US adding shipping and customs costs I could have bought almost 3 sets of Proline Hyrex. Proline is available in almost every hobby store over here. I share the hobby with 3 sons, so thats the difference between getting decent tires under 1 or under 3 crawlers. Your advice is solid, avalibility is just the problem over here.
I've seen Hyrax clones (with softer compound than g8) beat G8 on YT tests, and in my own test Hyrax clone doesnt stand a chance against KLR Gold. Ive also got Hyrax Predator but I dont bother testing them since the compound is harder and not ast sticky as KLR Gold. Some Louise tires is better on flat dry indoor surfaces so now I'm experimenting with Griffin pattern mods. To me those might be able to be comparable to KLR Gold when modded. Rockbeast is not as good as KLR on the light rigs I've seen. I dont know why everyone rave about the Hyrax when it has hard rubber and never beats KLR in any YT tests...
Hyrax is the best tire foam combo I can imagine. I got a set of proline flat iron lately and one pair had super soft super big foam and the other stiffer and smaller foam. I still haven’t tested the tires or foam but the foam in my hyrax is like memory foam in a pillow..... almost. Had to be the best bet. I have used hyrax after using stock on my trx 4 and I have cheap plastic but weighted wheels with the hyrax and steel wheel with the flat iron which I fee weighs less. Helps a lot. About to start making videos. Bronco, defender and tactical. Dad me and son respectively. Just starting g to mod. Check my ch and see what’s up
I have the hyrax with predator compound and my gf has the stock traxxas trx4 rubber both on identical trx4 . When we go hiking we play with our rig. On Off camber trails the hirax sucks so bad and my trx4 keeps rolling sideways while my girlfriend’s trx4 is so stable. Grip is better on hirax but the side wall is so soft.
Please redo the comparison with a spec foam (like crawler innovations dual stage foams), so the only difference is the tire
Love your videos, but please re-do this test with the same foams in each. Preferably Proline dual stage or crawler innovations Lil' Nova dual stage. I would really want to see the difference in the tires themselves rather than which has better single stage foam.
I didn't like my Rock Beast tires till they had a TON of time on them. Now... they beat all other tires in my area. Love them.
I just switched from Predator compound Hyrax's to Rock beast XL's in Alien compound. Mainly for the scale aspect. That being said, I LOVE my hyrax's and do not plan on getting rid of them. I'm gonna buy another set of rims to keep them on so I can switch between the 2
I've had Hyrax in the past. They were good. I use Maxxis Trepadors on my Rubicon and they work great.
I run hyrax tires on my truck. They get softer and better the more you run them. Best tires I’ve ever bought. Thanks for your videos!
That is true. They break in really well. By the third battery pack, they reach their full potential.
One thing a wise man told us is to was any brand new tire vigorously, twice with a stiff brush and dish soap. this will get the oils out that are on the tire left during the manufacturing process. We will do this on all other tire videos and not evaluate them absolutely brand new.
We’ve got a few videos on our channel of 2 TRX’s crawling with rockbeasts and the hyrax where you can compare the 2 different tyres; we’ve always found the rockbeasts are much more effective over nearly all terrain... just to clarify too, both TRX’s are stock other than cosmetic changes
Do you have links? Using stock foams?
It’s not a direct comparison but you can decide for yourself what you think of them from watching them👇🏼👇🏼
ua-cam.com/video/YOryRB3X9BU/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/IWmmKVDz3rk/v-deo.html
We’ve another with the two sets going live tonight, but yeah both are using the foams that came with the tyres, maybe it’s the area we live because of the smooth rocks and grainy dirt but we’ve just never really gotten on with the hyrax too well...
Having said that, the Hyrax have only been used a handful of times and we didn’t like the rock beasts at first either because they just seemed to struggle with everything before they were worn in, so maybe I’m saying all of this a little too prematurely but like I said from what we’ve experienced so far, the rockbeasts are our preferred of the two
Very much appreciated. Where do you live and what's the climate soil/rock like?
RCReview were south west UK but the area where we are specifically it’s quite grainy and rough dirt but the majority of rock is pretty smooth, we’ll just have to keep them running to see if we find any difference when they’ve been worn in a little🤷🏻♂️
Would be nice you doo a tire test monthly on the same track,because there so many different crawler tires on the market but no one know which tire for which terrain is best to choose.please put a wet part inside your test track. My Hyrax G8 dont like to gripping on wet concrete!
I did my own test with the same foams and for MY terrain anyways, the rock beast only slightly beat out the hyrax.
To be a completely fair fight, you should of used the same rims and foams between the tires, that way the only variable is just the tires, I have rock beasts on 3 of my own, and I have no issues with them
I think we will do that on the next go-around
Love the 1.9 Hyrax Predators with Pro-Line dual foam inserts and SSD steel wheels on my TRX-4 Sport.
No other upgrade will have such a huge impact as predator Hyrax tires on heavy wheels.
Can't wait to try the predator compound. Going to be ordering a set, aaaaand maybe another set of wheels. I go with the dual stage foams as well.
Whits' rcleftovers Thats exactly what I’m ordering today for my trx4 sport
Just got the rock beast xl for my Phoenix.
What do you think on the foams.
Will they hold up to the weight.
Rarely do I use stock inserts, the inserts are the only way I know of to fine tune any tire, yet I've been known to use racing inserts with Rovers so, they have a floopy top and a strong sidewall. I love the Hyrax & the Pitbulls, different strokes for different terrain
Appreciate your input. What inserts do you recommend? We want ot use a standard one for our testing.
Also, where does the Hyrax excel in your opinion? The Pitbulls?
I have 3 vehicles with hyrax and rockbeast xl with CI foams in alien compound usually wins.
Good review. I'm wondering if the Proline KM3s are just as good as the Hyrex?
The km3 are not as good as the hyrax performance wise but their more scale.
Thank you! A big help for new rubber on my new alum. bead locks. 🏁👍
I love your vids but IDK how you justify a test of tires using different foams
Is the truck in the video a trx4 Sport with a Bronco body? If so what brand body is this? Thank you for your time and reviews. I am looking to get a new body for my trx 4 Sport and tires,foams and steel wheels.
Great video Im running the Rock Beast II Akien kompound 2.2's on my Trx4 79 Bronco with the long arm lift & it gets around pretty good for a lifted Trx4 other than ture rubbing I have no complaints in these tires,may have to check out the hyrax though.
Everyone forgets about the Proline Flatiron XLs. I run these and they perform as well if not better than both of these tires. The bad side to them are the stock memory foams are way too soft for a heavy truck. Please do a test on Flatirons I would love another opinion with the good and bad comparison you do in your videos.
Nice comparison, which compound of Hyrax are you using?
This is the soft compound. Not the super soft Predator compound.
Hyrax are really good tires, but the rockbeasts are superior with dual stage foams in my opinion.
So what foams do you buy for them
At 1:12 if you had a hardbody with weight would those tires gripped more? I love hardbodies and that's all I run. I want new tires but need something for a heavy truck. What would you recommend or anybody recommend.
non moving weight on the axle as low as possible is what you want, a heavier hard body is only going to make matters worse even tho I agree they look great. the hardbody causes high centering which in turn lifts & or flips the truck. you want everything from the axles up as light weight as possible, only use brass on the hubs, Portals, castors etc.... Good luck
& any of these tires would work great for you, but if you have a heavier rig 8lbs plus I recommend you run 2 stage foams. I own Rockbeast 2 xl, Hyrax, flat irons, Krawlers there all great I lean towards the Rockbeast tho they're phenomenal in all conditions & a scale tire. hyrax are from scale but perform great...
I think that the strength of the Hyrax tire is the fine "ribs", much like a winter tire on a full scale car/truck.
Exactly. Many claws and no continuous center knob.
Can you compare the G8 compound with the predator? I've been on the fence about ordering a quality set of rock tires but still not sure what's best. Like everyone I want maximum grip on all surfaces and decent tread life! I'm sure that tire doesn't exist yet lol.
For grip, Predator compound is softer, tackier and better. It will outclimb the G8 in dry and wet in almost all conditions.
It's downside is it will wear faster and can get damaged torn easier when abused or caught in bind.
I think you should use the same foams in the tires, I assume most people upgrade to a dual stage foam like CI. Or maybe do stock foams and then dual stage foam comparison.
Will do for sure
I would like to see more testing including wet rocks, wood, dirt and mud. I found that hyrax didn't hook up well on the wood section of my local hobby shop's coarse especially when it was wet.
It seems like the Hyrax is no good in the wet. Any recommendations?
@@RCReviewChannel they don't do bad on wet rocks but I would like to see them up against the rock beasts. Here is my old scx10 with hyrax tires crawling up a little waterfall. ua-cam.com/video/scgXtEb5Y9g/v-deo.html
Do both these tires have the single stage foams they came with Francis?
Both of them have single stage foams. They're both on the soft side.
RC Review Thankyou sir. A dual stage foam would probably do better you think?
Have you tried the Ottsix klr voodoo tires?
Coming next. I wonder if we should do identical foams.
RCReview yes because most serious crawlers use the crawler innovations foams..
I've been driving the KLR Gold for 3 years and they still perform. Recently bought Hyrax G8(too hard for my light comp rig), Hyrax Predator (medium compound so I've got no faith in those either.) Louise Champ (very soft sticky rubber)matches KLR Gold on straight up dry conditions buts corners worse. Heavily modded Louise Griffin (super soft)shows promise at the moment. Removed every other outer lug, and one lug at center pattern to open it up. Really made a huge improvement! I will buy the KLR Rex when those can be found at a reasonable cost on ebay. My testing only applies to dry conditions and a light rig.
What body is that
Not a fair comparison at all. The variable here is the foam. Run this comparison using the same insert in both tires and you’ll see a much difference result.
Nice video , I have a question which it’s the best configured,the tires and rings or wheels 1.9 or 2.2 and suspension which it’s the correct size , like always hi from Costa Rica 🇨🇷🇨🇷🇨🇷🤜🏻🤛🏻
1.9s always. 2.2s are too tall and affect Center of gravity
RCReview thanks dude
How about the voodoo tires?
Voodoo KLR's? Yes, it's on order.
Which compound are you using on the hyrax?
Soft compound but not Predator (super soft)
What would be a good tire upgrade for the gen8??
Absolutely!!! Our Gen 8 could not do ANY of this rock course with stock tires. It completed half of them with just a Proline Hyrax tire upgrade.
@@RCReviewChannel What are the Proline part numbers you used for the Hyrex and the foams? There are several versions. I love my 2.2 Hyrex on my Axial Wraith.
I would go for KLR Gold or Silver. Silver is tiny bit harder than gold, but matches the weight of that car. Hyrax isnt in the same performance class.. I dont want to sound like a fan boy but there is so misinformation on the net, there's a reason the KLR is often sold out!
@@impuls60 Good advice, but I'm located in the EU and Ottsix is not available over here. By the time I order it from the US adding shipping and customs costs I could have bought almost 3 sets of Proline Hyrex. Proline is available in almost every hobby store over here. I share the hobby with 3 sons, so thats the difference between getting decent tires under 1 or under 3 crawlers. Your advice is solid, avalibility is just the problem over here.
Good experiment with explanation.Nice video.
Thank you. We want to do a lot more!
Have the hyrax and the ottsix vodoo klr. Should compare those two. I think the ottsix is better. Very impressive. With proline dual stage foams
I've seen Hyrax clones (with softer compound than g8) beat G8 on YT tests, and in my own test Hyrax clone doesnt stand a chance against KLR Gold. Ive also got Hyrax Predator but I dont bother testing them since the compound is harder and not ast sticky as KLR Gold. Some Louise tires is better on flat dry indoor surfaces so now I'm experimenting with Griffin pattern mods. To me those might be able to be comparable to KLR Gold when modded. Rockbeast is not as good as KLR on the light rigs I've seen. I dont know why everyone rave about the Hyrax when it has hard rubber and never beats KLR in any YT tests...
Ok man! But depend to the weigh distribution as well!
Hyrax is the best tire foam combo I can imagine.
I got a set of proline flat iron lately and one pair had super soft super big foam and the other stiffer and smaller foam. I still haven’t tested the tires or foam but the foam in my hyrax is like memory foam in a pillow..... almost. Had to be the best bet. I have used hyrax after using stock on my trx 4 and I have cheap plastic but weighted wheels with the hyrax and steel wheel with the flat iron which I fee weighs less. Helps a lot. About to start making videos. Bronco, defender and tactical. Dad me and son respectively. Just starting g to mod. Check my ch and see what’s up
I have the hyrax with predator compound and my gf has the stock traxxas trx4 rubber both on identical trx4 . When we go hiking we play with our rig. On Off camber trails the hirax sucks so bad and my trx4 keeps rolling sideways while my girlfriend’s trx4 is so stable. Grip is better on hirax but the side wall is so soft.
That's not the tires fault. You need good foams. Stock trx4 foams are really stiff.
😁👍 Great test! Hyrax for the win!
Hyrax cleaned up.
What a nice review~!!!👍👍👍
i love the hyrax.
Great info...
Nice review man. 👍😃👍
Thank you. Hard to review tires but we went out on identical conditions on the same day with different tires.
Crap review - as others have said... USE THE EXACT SAME FOAMS!