The Absolute Failure of MULAN (2020) | Analysis Explained
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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But remember guys Mulan is not a superhero
Yes, she's just born with random superpowers, you know, like ALL young girls! 😉
Just a Mary Sue
Funny is that even the chinese don't like this movie. Mainly because they made her a "superhero" of sorts...
But remember stuff like that happens in Chinesse martial arts films
no Amanda's Life Advice this week? :(
Mulan 1998 - Girls can do anything with hard work, perseverance and determination.
Mulan 2020 - Mulan's not like other girls. She's a cool girl.
She's just captain Marvel 2.0 and that's not a compliment...
I imagine if we could see the aftermath of the movie, the situation isn't going to get better for the women. They still continue to follow the patriarchy, tradition still remains, and only mulan gets the benefit of being treated as an equal to men because people see her as a special case (because in the movie, she is).
Meanwhile when i watched the 1998 version, i could see the townspeople looking at mulan and say "see mulan over there? She was just an average girl. If you set your mind and heart to something, you can be just like her."
The sister character made this even worse honestly. The message seems to come across as, “If you have powers, you can be special. But if you don’t, just accept the roles society has for you and be content with the hand you’ve been dealt.”
@@melfree2545 It's basically Disney saying that you need to be special to rise up. From a good family or wealthy or physically gifted. Which in the real world is the harsh reality but it makes a pretty shitty message.
The original was not just “girls can do anything”. But her army friends also can’t do anything at the beginning. She inspires them with her wit and they also go and succeed in their own. And that’s the beauty!
"We don't tend to break into song when we go to war."
Jokes aside, that's actually horrifically untrue. Battle songs not only have a strong presence in virtually every recorded culture throughout history, but as someone who was in the army for 5 years as a combat engineer and deployed to Afghanistan, I can tell you thay we still sing on mission. My platoon could have sang Bohemian Rhapsody competitively we did it so often on mission over the radios.
You want to make it a more realistic story, then fine. I'm certain there are cool, hsitorical chinese war chants and battle songs you could have used in the movie instead.
True! It's just a lazy excuse to not include the songs.
I was in the Navy and we were literally singing songs while we marched from day 1 of boot camp! You’re ENTIRE CAREER can be as a musician and nothing else lol I have no idea about the Chinese military but yeah, this was a lazy excuse not to include music
true
also people sing while doing hard work in fields
it's like when it's hard or scary people sing together
often it's for rythm because it's easier to connect everyone through a song or melody
@@danielasilva8765 Speaking of WWI...
OVER THERE! SAY A PRAYER!
SEND THE WORD, SEND THE WORD
OVER THERE!
THAT THE YANKS ARE COMING!
THE YANKS ARE COMING!
Just look at navies around the world, Spanish ladies, leave her Johnny leave her, and everyone's favourite drunken sailor haha
I saw a video of a girl that broke down what Mulan got culturally wrong, and during the scene where Mulan's dad said that she must hide her chi she said "so they gave Mulan superpowers they made her Asian Elsa," I burst out laughing🤣😂
Is it Xiran Jai Zhao's one? It's really good, if people want to go watch it
Xiran Jay Zhao, sorry
Zhao is great! Their videos are so insightful.
They actually identify as nonbinary
@@Daffodillon she’s still ok with people using she/they
Amanda's disappointment is too pure, this movie sucked.
I know, her reaction is contagious, I was HOPING that this flick would be decent, especially as the original is my favourite Disney movie of all time. But NO, they just had to go and butcher it, didn't they?! 🙄
Maybe I’m just lucky and Amanda isn’t; but has she ever reviewed a mogie she liked, or does she just take them for the team?
@@MrBiggles53 she does do positive reviews
When u watched the star was films last week so u know who Qui-Gon Jinn is
@@MrBiggles53 I mean, she did two videos on Umbrella Academy (One labeled "I Simp over THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY Season 2 for 19 minutes")
Seriously, the animated version ends up being more realistic than this movie.
I know. I mean, it's still inaccurate, but it was pretty transparent about it. And for any criticism it gets, the film at least got the heart of the ballad correct.
Even though Mushu is technically a magical creature, pretty much everything in the '98 film could have happened normally without him there. A letter from the front, the cannons setting on fire in transit, Mulan trying to act manly, etc. He doesn't affect the world around him to a high degree. Making a main character and antagonist character have superhero/magic powers does, though.
@@alyssaagnew4147 Like, we expect an animation not to be accurate. And the live action version is manages to be less realistic than an animation? Hell, that takes real talent.
there were so many things wrong in the 1998 animated Mulan version
- First of all Mulan cut her hair right before she left to join the Army. In ancient china it was uncivilized to cut your hair short, thats why all the ancient chinese men have long hair.
-Second, Mulan was trained by her father as a little girl. the historic mulan was skilled in martial art even before she went to the army. she was trained by her father when she was young. mulan didn't took his father place if she didn't knew she could do it, she had the confidence to do it. the disney animated version just whitewashed this fact. sad fact is that western audiences are not comfortable with strong women, they can't handle it. disney just made mulan weak to begin with to create underdog sympathy.
Why should you downplay someone ability just because she is a woman. All women need to be weak first to be appreciated? That is the stereotype we are holding on to. We are always surprised when a woman is more capable than a male equivalent. The message of the movie is saying, that is wrong!
- Third, the song "I'll make a man out of you" is very sexist. Why would an chinese commander say I'll make a man out of you when the soldiers were already men? I know its a wink at Mulan being a woman, but the song didn't age well. Nowadays both men and woman can join the army. Image your drill sergeant tells you that he want to make a man out of you, while you are a woman, cringe!
- Fourth, historically Shang Li didnt exist. And it is very sexist stereotyping for Mulan fall in love with her superior, thats so cringe I don't know why you support that, its morally not even sound. Honghei is historically seen more accurate as Mulan love interest, and its more logical because he was a fellow soldier and they spent more time witch each other, than you would normally with your commander or drill sergeant.
@@BingDwenDwen copy pasting and never responding to comments that argue your opinion
“WELL WE DON’T ELECTRIC SLIDE ACROSS WALLS EITHER NIKKI, BUT HERE WE ARE!” The amount of distress in the delivery of that sentence..
Actually, people did break into songs when going into war, to lift their spirits which were already depressed enough. The war folk songs are the result of that tradition. So, "Girl Worth Fighting For" is actually more realistic of a scene in the animation, than this movie had.
It's also a much more emotional moment, since it's the soldiers realizing for the first time what war actually means. They sing, joke around and imagine becoming heroes and getting their perfect women, but then the music stops when they see the destruction the war has caused. In just one moment both the characters and the audience see what's really at stake, in the disconnect between the happy song and the destroyed village. It's one of my favourite scenes from the movie and it perfectly shows the real emotions that many soldiers throughout history must have felt when they were confronted with the horrors of war for the first time. It's both realistic and a great dramatic device.
@@ichbinben. Completely agreed. It brought so much goosebumps to me and my bro as children that we legit stuck to our mom at that moment o_O
Not only were the 4 writers not Chinese, they also have (apparently) never been anywhere near a real military. It's like they picked 4 women at random - "Got a vajayjay? Stick a pen in it, baby; you're a strong empowered writer now!!"
Of course, war is intimately connected with singing (and dancing as well). It is only with the end of the second world war that these became disassociated with warfare. All warrior cultures had war songs featuring prominently, and warriors from most of these cultures were expected to be accomplished dancers as well, (cossacks, maori, samurai, norman knights...) Those people who wrote this piece of crap "cinema" have no conception whatsoever of reality. By "realistic" they mean something that might conform to their comfortable first world existence where high drama comes from not finding a parking spot and then throwing a tantrum or going off to mope. Zero research, zero wisdom, zero anything.
The American military, along with others, use songs to march and run to while in formation. They're called jodies. So much gas lighting and bs from the director's and writers
"We didn't want people singing or magic animals in a Disney movie because that would be too unrealistic, Mulan isn't a magical superhero" Mulan: *proceeds to defy gravity and act like a rejected avengers character the entire movie while a woman turns into birds in the background*
*rejected avengers character* 💀
The hawk witch was kinda iconic though✌️😂. I actually liked her character the most.
*and the bird woman is supposedly to be op but later gets pierced by an arrow to save mulan*
That witch triggers me and Mulan’s powers too. Why is the world was a which ok but not an ancestral dragon guide!! WTF! I really don’t understand why. And 200 million to make this shit! W H A T.
Lmaooo
As a Chinese, there are so many things that are culturally wrong, 1 In Chinese culture there is no such thing as the phoenix rebirthing that is a misconception, and 2 in Chinese folk tales, women with magical powers that use them for good were seen as like a fairy but if they use them for bad they are called monsters it is actually much more complicated than this but this will give you a general idea. And chi is nothing a thing there's just so much more wrong
I would say chi is a thing but the way it was represented in this film is so laughable. I'm also Chinese btw.
I have seen a few videos pointing these out and more. It really is disappointing that they could have made it completely accurate, they said they were going for accurate but decided not to go accurate.
"We don't tend to break into song when we go to war."
Yes, yes we do. The history of military bands is because we wanted music during battle. Maybe it was just a drum and a fife at times, but it happened. Music is proven to lift moral. Its nothing new.
Hence the Coma Doof Warrior of "Mad Max: Fury Road"!
Good point! And when you look at the original Mulan, the music showed a really powerful contrast between triumph of training and the hardships of war
Militaries have been using music for literal Millenia not only does it improve morale, it keeps people marching in time, and can be used to convey orders in battle. Its really useful so the idea that "hur dur people didn't use music" is just fucking stupid
Everything about this movie was just......not true and bad. Tragically horrid.
Yah so true. Its like that old song "I dont know what I've been told"
Mulan 1998: average girl who actually does so bad in training that she's told to leave, succeeds through determination and hard work
Mulan 2020: she's a magical girl who needs no training cause she's just that good, because magic
Don't forget it is because of mAgIc! That's the important part and makes it totally realistic. But please always remember: Mulan is not a superhero!! (:
Mulan 2009 I'm a human being
MY NAME IS REY PALPATINE!!!! Yeah, Disney is fucking up their female characters completely by making them perfect. Maybe their animated movies are the best for their woman characters now.
That’s actually more in line with the original story of Mulan... Not defending the new movie but educate yourself.
@@dxcSOUL No its not. As @Speculative Dude Reviews
said No shapeshifting witches, no chi (qi) and Mulan also NEVER SHOWED THAT SHE WAS A WOMAN!!! In the original poem, she hid her identity the entire time she was in the military. It wasn't until she had left service and gone home when some of the soldiers that had served with her visited her home and she met them dressed as a woman. That was the first time anyone knew that she wasn't a man.
mulan cutting her hair and using the weights to climb the pole were the two most iconic scenes from the original for me. I was so disappointed that neither was in the remake :/
As it is an iconic scene the hair cutting is actually something that's completely inaccurate of the chinese culture...
That ending, when the father threw the sword away and embraced Mulan, spoke to me more like, no amount of honor or loss of it would make up for her loss. That his love for her was unconditional. I loved that.
Right? Mulan was quick to show him her trophies because she thought that her family must have been feeling great shame for what she did, but really they were just worried about her. Makes me cry now when I watch it because he’s basically saying “I don’t care about any of that, I’m just happy you’re home” 😭
As a father that teared me up a bit since I know no amount of money would be equal to even a finger of my daughter.
It's a very western anachronistic thing for the father character to do though. It's fine in the context of an American kids' movie but it feels very un-Chinese.
I hate how with every Disney remake they go like “oh everyone’s already seen the original so we can skip lots of detail and story line that’s crucial for the film to make sense... people can fill in the gaps”
Just like Aladdin
That's what they do with bad film adaptations of some books and games too. "Oh we're just going to assume everyone's read the books or played the games so we don't have to explain anything."
The beauty and the beast was nice but I don't want to see any other remake Disney could have made
@@Walkingcalamity404 bro even that was trash...Emma did absolutely no justice to her character (Belle) and that too they made her more of a political (more like the 'woke' type) feminist while in the original animated version, she already was perfect and a true feminist and please don't get me started on the ball gown and the music.
@Quinn yess that too!
The sole blessing of 2020 Mulan: everyone suddenly realises how awesome 1998 Mulan is
my problem with this movie is that the vast majority of the original movie was watching mulan fail and yet she wouldn't give up. in this version you turn her into a mary sue, perfect in every way and never makes mistakes.
truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I think that's the problem when bad writers try to write "strong independant women". They forget that we love characters mainly for their struggles and their flaws, not because we see them winning everything....
@@krankarvolund7771 Disney doesn't know how to write interesting, entertaining, badass flawed heroes who struggle any more. They think everyone wants to see perfect, flawless Gary Stus and Mary Sues who effortlessly beat the villains with no trouble.
@@Xehanort10 And that make kids and other viewers feel like shit because they already think they're not great as they watch basically a magical girl do convoluted shit in a war. Screw modern Disney.
YES. Animated Mulan was relatable and inspiring because even when she failed, she kept trying, and she did it without some magic powers. And even if this director wants to give her some dumb qi-but-that's-not-actually-how-qi-works powers, at least give her some struggles. Even superheroes have struggles and fail sometimes, because good writers know it makes them more believable and grounded, and it helps the non-superpowered audience connect with them.
Original Mulan: "You can be anything you want to be as long as you have determination, wit and true grit." 😍💪
Remake Mulan: "You can be anything you want to be as long as you have inexplicable superpowers, and are totally invincible!🙄
Mulan: the 24th marvel cinematic universe movie. In doctor strange 2, she'll actually side with the villain, and win with a kick at an arrow.
manuek huntyk That’s not it, Mulan is actually force sensitive!
Kinda like Rey from the new Star Wars. she’s just naturally good at everything without any difficulty. 😂 oh the Mary Sue
The cartoon Mulan (despite the faults that people found later) still gives a wonderful empowering message even after all these years. You can also feel the love and passion of the creators and everyone involved through it.
The remake, (even though they keep denying it's a remake and more of a historically accurate Mulan movie) I'll still call a remake because they relied on the nostalgia and the loves & success for the cartoon version to create hype and draw in audiences. The remake barely has an empowering message (despite how much they want to convince people). The movie is basically saying you're born with it or you're nothing.
The actress too, how is it that an animated cartoon is more expressive and easier to empathize with than an actual human actor?
And there there are issues of kissing CCP's posterior and supporting human discrimination and police brutality.
'She lives in China, she has to show support or her family will be in danger' excuse is such bullsh**. She could just stay silence. Nobody is forcing her to choose a side, she willingly does it herself.
turning into a murder of crows = realistic
having a pet lizard = absurd and not believable
Mulan 1998: Female empowerment
Mulan 2020: Mulan empowerment
I wouldn't call it empowerment since she was apparently superman from birth.
More like : Mulan Stronk
I take the Mary Sueing of Mulan’s character as a personal insult.
Jupiter Disney doesn’t understand how to make good movies anymore.
@@emhu2594 I don't think Disney even cares to. They're all about soulless cash grabs now.
@@alleycat2297 These days Disney only make 3 types of films. Bad live action remakes of some of their best animated films, animated films not as good as the ones they used to make or they buy the rights to other series and proceed to make bad sequels, prequels or remakes of them. And that's not even getting into the bad fanfictions they make like the Maleficent film. People don't want to see you give cliched origin stories of your best villains where they had bad childhoods Disney. Then there's shit like Descendants where Disney villains who died in their respective animated films are alive and trapped on an island and have lazily named kids.
Same.
@@Xehanort10 ok i actually maleficent 😔🤚but I don’t connect the original and that movie together I just view maleficent as a whole different movie and descendants is literally a copy of ever after high that had a way better storyline which then had to get cancelled cause of Disney
"We don't tend to break into song before going into battle."
"WELL WE DON'T TEND TO ELECTRIC SLIDE AGAINST THE WALL WHILE FIGHTING EITHER BECKY!!!"
Best line and point (ignoring the witch)
“We don’t tend to break into song before going into battle”
-a college educated white woman from America who knows next to nothing about history
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 and how do you know this? No, we don't tend to break out into song anymore, because that's not a fear tactic anymore.
@@pepebabushki9376 While in Iraq we would regularly break down into Katy Perry while on foot patrols. In Afghanistan it was common to sing Barbara Ann while on convoys. It isn't a fear tactic but it does help with moral.
@@BoredDoc yeah, totally. I meant like on the eve of battle, on the front lines.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 yes honestly he’s even less than that because america has also did a similar thing. Especially during the world wars
director of mulan: “mulan is not a superhero”
me: nah she’s just a random chic that has superpowers to jump off buildings to save people no biggie
Director probably watched kim possible and thought all girls were like her
Remake Mulan is basically Chinese Rey or Carol Danvers.
Have you ever seen a Kung fun movie?
OhSnap ItsMe being culturally accurate as a Kung fu is not the same as a superhero movie
"We don't tend to break into song when we go to war"
Uhm.... the existence of marching songs would like to differ
Yes there are so many armies from different countries and cultures and times in history who would sing, shout, or chant on their way into battle :o and yeah like you said, marching songs etc. I'm not sure that the director knows much about history in general at all really, which makes it even more offensive that she claimed she wanted to make the remake of Mulan more 'historically accurate/realistic' (they should have got an actual Chinese history expert, and a Chinese warfare expert, to help them write the movie!)
@Lillian Oak
Exactly, I learned this when I was in Jrotc 16 years ago(I turn 32 in 11 days). How hard was it to do the tiniest amount of research?
@@DemonicRemption I just turned 32 the other day! Happy Birthday for 11 days away ^_^
I guess I haven't been singing when I March I must have been saying the lyrics in awkward conversation this whole times.
ISNT THAT WAS GIRL WORTH FIGHT FOR WAS MODELED AFTER ?!?!?!?! I HATE THESE PRODUCERS !!!
Director: "Mulan is not a superhero" **proceeds to make a rip-off of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" instead**
Yesss. That was the whole fucking movie!
Don't get me wrong, "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" was awesome - but it was not, in the slightest, what "Mulan" should have been.
Animated Mulan: **young girl has to work twice as hard compared to everyone else so she's at the same level to the male soldiers,she's never been in battle so the message is that with determination and hard work you can achieve anything**
Live action Mulan: **young girl doesn't even need to train,in fact she has to hide her natural talent because she has magic Chi that makes her invencible so the message is if you weren't born special sucks for you only perfectly born women can be strong and achieve stuff**
"We don't tend to break into song when we go to war."
Uh yes we do. War protest/support songs are a major point of culture. Furthermore, songs are used constantly in the military as cadence, when marching or training. Which is EXACTLY what two of Mulan's songs are used for in the original film.
"Behind us lay Atlanta, smouldering and in ruins, the black smoke rising high in air, and hanging like a pall over the ruined city.…and right before us the Fourteenth Corps, marching steadily and rapidly, with a cheery look and swinging pace, that made light of the thousand miles that lay between us and Richmond. Some band, by accident, struck up the anthem of "John Brown's Body"; the men caught up the strain, and never before or since have I heard the chorus of "Glory, glory, hallelujah!" done with more spirit, or in better harmony of time and place." - Memoirs of General William Tecumseh Sherman
Also, there are entire instruments (many which are no longer used) that were designed specifically for use in war.
A privileged movie director wouldn't know that though.
@@erraticonteuse God, I love that quote.
Not to mention the other two songs was before she went to the army in the first place.
*Cinderella:* Let's give her less agency.
*Audience:* Eeerrr... what?
*Belle:* Let's make her less confrontational.
*Audience:* I don't think that's a good-
*Mulan:* LET'S MAKE HER A WITCH!
Yeah and at least live action Belle was a good witch ;)
Honestly I liked the new Cinderella I didnt mind Aladdin, Beauty and The Beast and Alice in Wonderland but most were just really dumb. *Looking at The Lion Kinga and Mulan*
Honestly you can never really replace the original.
Veomf you thought Aladdin was okay but the lion king and mulan is where you draw the line? That’s the exact mindset that gave us this crap in the first place.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Sorry man it's just my opinion. I'll delete the comment if you really want.
Veomf nah I just find it odd. Did you pay Disney to see any of these movies?
The directors: "We don't tend to break into song when we go to war."
The Hussites who once literally won a battle by scaring their enemies off with singing: Am I a joke to you?
"We don't tend to break into song when we go to war."
[Glares in Scotland The Brave]
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🏴🎵🎶🏴
For any idiot that says they were trying to be more "realistic" with this version, I live and work in China, and I've read the original poem. No shapeshifting witches, no chi (qi) and Mulan also NEVER SHOWED THAT SHE WAS A WOMAN!!! In the original poem, she hid her identity the entire time she was in the military. It wasn't until she had left service and gone home when some of the soldiers that had served with her visited her home and she met them dressed as a woman. That was the first time anyone knew that she wasn't a man.
I would love to see a movie about that, isn't of what we got for 2020.
I got in a fight with an ex about this, he was in fact an idiot.
I kinda wish that we still talk just for me to send him this video!!😂😂😂
Yes!!! It had to take her to become a literal dressed man to be taken seriously! Back in those times women were in some ways expected to obey and become feminine attributes. She was silenced. She was careful to not let any of her femaleness show ... and General Tsang. The real story was more of heartbreak. But again Disney finds ways to bring happy endings.. but not this year
"We don't tend to break into song before going into battle."
Well here you go Becky, please go back to history classes because you are wrong again
It’s actually funny how culturally inaccurate it is after all the fanfare about proper representation. Like even as big as the fact that Chinese folklore, and most Asian cultures, didn’t have “witches” in the European sense because Christianity wasn’t a thing there so hearing them talk about it so much was so uncomfortable. Also chi is an acupuncture/energy/metaphorical thing, not magic.
True
Issuing Chi to power martial arts magic is fairly consistent with traditional beliefs. The idea that you would be punished for doing that is not.
Me: Wait, isn't chi kinda more like a humor was in past western medical practice? Like an energy current thing in your body that everyone has?
Google: Yup.
Mulan 2020: NO, it's MAGIC
@@newperve In traditional Chinese sense, everyone had Chi. Men AND women. Plenty of Chinese wuxia movie had powerful women that cultivated chi. Chi isn't the same thing as the Force from Star Wars, where only "special" people are born with. That was what I had an issue with.
People actually believed Disney? If they could use blackface to make money they would.
Don't believe these corporations faux wokeness, they just care about money.
6:15 People don't tend to break into song when they go to war...EVER HEARD OF A MILITARY MARCH?! god...all these live-action remakes just need to stop being made, just stop...please...
Exactly! And other than that, soldiers often sing because war is fucking traumatizing! I don't get what didn't Disney get about what made the animated movie good.
I'm suddenly overcome with a vision of Russian troops marching to "Barbie Girl...."
They'll only stop if the movie start failing at the box office, which they won't since parents want to watch this shit.
@@Everik-ct6pg I think it's made only 7 or 29 million so far. A lot of people pirated it and a lot of people didn't watch it at all. Maybe this could be the bonk on the head Disney needs to start trying to make actually good movies again.
@@47ratsinahoodie here's hoping
"People don't break into song when they go to war"
yeah they do, ever heard of a marching song?
I haven’t watched any of the Disney live action movies but one thing I’ve noticed from the trailers is that they all look so... fake. Like, the sets LOOK LIKE sets, imo Aladdin especially looked like a movie version of a stage play, like everything looked so fake and not genuine, there’s no charm :// I was excited for Mulan bc I thought the trailer looked good, but some of the clips you showed in this, like when she’s a kid and when she’s at home, all literally looks like a big stage instead of an actual place. I kinda hate it idk
Ok, cool, I'm not the only one. I've had the same problem! This one looks noticeably cheaper than the other ones too and looks like a disney channel movie was given more of a budget.
And it seems like it was shot on location, you would think it would look good or real.
I've refused to watch any of the Disney live-action remakes on sheer principle. Like you said, the trailers make them look extremely fake, and whatever clips I've seen from films (from "Maleficent" and "Beauty and the Beast") gave me an even worse impression. And I heard about the location troubles regarding "Mulan" before I ever saw a trailer of it since I decided to retreat under a rock after the "Aladdin" trailer and "Prince Ali" number were complete jokes.
If I want to watch these movies, I'll stick with the animated originals. At least their animated movies used actual voice actors for major supporting roles from time to time (e.g. Paul Winchell, Frank Welker, and David Ogden Stiers).
I don’t mind that. The good Tim Burton movies all look like sets. It’s just the opposite of idea generation and being creatively alive, redoing all the old ideas into the current technology. Come out with new ideas. I won’t watch the movies on principle
Exactly, there’s no life in them.
Cartoon Mulan: A young teen girl trying to make it in her society. She's smart, resourceful, but not magic. She has fears, likes, difficulties and triumphs.
She is only discovered as a female hiding in the army after saving her commanding officers and many of the other soldiers lives. She is embarrassed and scared because she knows what this means. She also felt bad about deceiving everyone who had then become her friends.
Life action Mulan: In the first 3 minutes of the movie does crouching tiger hidden dragon moves that would make Jackie Chan full of confusion. She's a good fighter not because of practice and determination, but because chi which is basically magic.
She is discovered when she just says "f**k it" and takes down her hair to fight in a battle (very helpful to have your hair in your face while swords are coming at you) and doesn't care if they kill her for it. Is also very rude and uncomfortable around everyone.
The cartoon one is about as female empowerment as you can get, because it didn't treat Mulan as special because girl, but because of her determination in a world that didn't treat women the same as men. She never tried to over push "females are human too" but intsead proved it through her actions and ingenuity.
While the cartoon one has it's flaws, it's a million times better than the live action. Both as the story of the Chinese legend and as a movie in it's own right. The characters are memorable, better written, empathetic. The art style brought so much more respect to Chinese culture and was a lovely tribute to an old legend.
The new movie doesn't even feel Chinese. It just feels like a vaguely east Asian badly done martial arts fighting movie with excessive magic elements thrown in.
Thing is, it's apart of various cultures to believe ancestors watch over them and that they have things like guardian animals. Those elements didn't make it just more fun for kids, they also were adding to the lore and beliefs of that culture.
The new movie is an insult to the legend of Mulan and to the art of film making. This is not even to mention the lead actress being a shill for the CCP and it's ilk.
There was no reason for this film to be made.
It wasn't even an argument of representation by getting Chinese actors to play Chinese characters. The original voice actors for most of the main characters in the cartoon Mulan were Chinese already.
The new Mulan was pointless and offensive on so many accounts.
Chi is not magic.
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So mystic energy, the point is it makes her super, when she supposed to be average girl.
And she is not. She is flying and kicking the bad guys left and right with her little finger, and they dare to say it is normal stuff, and imply every girl can do it.
Didn't read all that.. But I agree with your point
"We don't sing when we go to war"
Me, a French person : Our national anthem is a song writen for soldiers who go to the war. Which is weird I think, but just to point out : war song is a big thing.
And the *United States of America's* National Anthem (The Star-Spangled Banner) was a drinking song set to a poem (Defence of Fort M'Henry) about Americans weathering a bombardment from the British Navy during the War of 1812. I could *almost* forgive Ms. Caro for this, b/c she's from New Zealand...but no. When the lyrics to the NATIONAL ANTHEM of the Walt Disney Company's home country includes lyrics like "...and the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air..." Yeah: Ms. Caro's just culturally tone-deaf here.
the message the writers wanted to say "Mulan is not a girl, she's a warrior" since you know....they repeated that over and over again. Was this movie even empowering women? Before I even was aware of the whole gender thing I just thought Mulan from the animated movie was a badass and brave character who rose from nothing to a skilled fighter then a hero.
Their first mistake was wanting to do a more "culturally accurate" version of Mulan with an all-white writing team and director 🙃
That’s exactly what liberals in the west do. They say they are anti racist anti fascist pro multiculturalism. While at the same time, being the most uneducated and brain dead people in society. They know nothing about culture or history. These are the same people who say white people have no culture, that they stole everything from blacks. These people are delusional and should never be in a position of power.
Yeah this comment is textbook woke racism. The race of the people producing the film does not impact its historical accuracy. Any race can become an expert on Chinese history. You’re basically making a racial supremacist argument.
SnorgonOfBorkkad true, but generally the average chinese person would know more about their culture than the average white person.
@@snorgonofborkkad Yea, but none of them did have any knowledge of Chinese culture, nor really studied it before (possibly after too) production. They spent a bunch of money to send a costume designer around China to study the historical fashion, when they could have saved money and actually hired a Chinese costume designer who has probably spent years in this field. The mental gymnastics you gotta do to reason why the heck they would hire a crew ignorant to Chinese culture and spend thousands on educating them on a culture many Chinese people know naturally is ridiculous. Also, what happened to giving people of color and minority a chance to tell their stories in hollywood? Honestly, Disney is superficial in their support of minorities in hollywood. I'm not saying minority voices should be prioritized, but if you're going to tell a story from them then yea they should be prioritized in this situation.
Fun fact: soldiers singing songs during war was actually a pretty common thing especially for the time period!
"WELL WE DON'T ELECTRIC SLIDE ACROSS WALLS EITHER, NIKKI, BUT HERE WE ARE!!!"
My favorite line from the video
Two years later and this line still gives me life.
Mulan was supposed to be about her fighting with the men and being equal. That women can also fight and not be seen different, which is why she maintained her cover. Her fighting smart and using her brain when pure muscle wouldnt work (like climbing the pole, setting off fireworks etc..)
Its NOT about superpowers and magic and her being better than the other women and being special 😑 she's supposed to be a normal warrior saving her family
Mulan was never about equality. It's about filial piety.
"We don't break into song when we go to war"
Hymns? WAR HYMNS???
Filming near literal prison camps and thinking the agency didn’t help
6:13, "we don't tend to break into song when we go to war" yeah, but Full Metal Jacket had U.S marines singing Mikey Mouse in the Vietnam War.
But they did sing during wars. The world wars are examples of this. During commutes they would sing songs to ease the tention
Or, hell, the last scene from Full Metal Jacket where the platoon sings the Mickey Mouse theme, one of the best scenes in a war movie
I don't know about China but in medieval Europe armies often sang before the battles and during training.
Besides in the animated version when they discovered the village that has been burned to the ground they don't sing in what's left of the movie like there is no reason to sing after seeing something so horrible.
Every war ever is an example of that XD
I bet half of the national anthems are war songs originally, and many armies, even in Antiquity, had dedicated musicians with them ^^
“Well we don’t electric slide across walls either Nicky but here we are!!!”
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"Trying to replicate real animals, yes. This is live action."
"*NO*"
It looks like "authentic to Chinese culture" means ripping off kung fu movies.
"I'm just so tired"
Hands down, most relatable statement of all time.
_WHY?_ Why take something *NO ONE* was complaining about and _ruin_ it?
_m o n e y_ *$*
Here is the perspective of someone who has a lot of Chinese relatives who watched the film: The original was fine, because Disney is never that accurate in their animated and the spirit of the story (a normal for posing as a boy to protect her father goes on to save China) is wholesome and good.
The new one however gets so much wrong about Chinese culture while laying it on so thick that it’s distracting AND they ruined the normalcy of Mulan, basically suggesting the only way a woman could save China was to be extraordinary in magically power instead of someone who trained just like a man would.
Does that count as a case of the uncanny valley? The more realistic a work of art is, the more irritating are minor wrong details, whereas a more stylized depiction has much more leeway.
@@swagromancer Yea pretty much. It’s like you can’t not focus on the details because of how realistic they wanted it.
@@swagromancer Yeah, some things are just easier to get away with in animation, like for example the idea of watching an all chinese cast in a movie set in china all speaking english seem really awkward to me, even if I can't understand chinese myself.
For the animation you at least don't see the actual actors on screen doing it.
@@Nimroc That's part of the reason why I hate these live action remakes. A remake always has to justify its existence. The story has already been told, so every retelling has to bring something new to the table, or it might as well not exist. These movies don't do that. In most cases, they just present a worse version of the original tale, stripped of all its charm and character that was expertly captured in animation.
Ironically, this desire to make it more "realistic" just makes it more dull and more unbelievable.
"We don't tend to break into song when we go to war" I believe the fife and drum corps would like to have a word with her.
Also, Mulan has the best soundtrack, all the songs are great. By removing them, Mushu, and Shang, they literally gutted this movie and took all of the heart and soul from it.
"Mulan is not a superhero."
She then did a backflip, snapped the bad guy's neck and saved the day. 🙂
what film did you watch? she clearly did a triple front flip 100m in the sky and kicked a arrow into the bad guys chest so fast he couldn't catch it!
yea no superhero here :DDDDDDDDDDD
Is that a Ryan George reference or am I dumb?
@@nikkiesona yup.
Super easy, barely an inconvenience
DO I HEAR A MARVEL CROSSOVER?! Jk jk if they do I quite literally would just give up. Humanity has failed us all
historically accurate movie has a shape-shifting witch -_-
When Mulan said, “Somewhere there’s a place for us” (or something along those lines) to the witch I had a vision of them starring in West Side Story together. I ship them.
"I'm so upset" pretty much summarizes the entire movie.
5:45-7:40 is the best part of the video. The timing, the cuts, the clips, the indignation. *chef's kiss*
They literally took the masterpiece that is Mulan and ripped the heart out from it and called it live action Mulan. I'm sorry but it was bad.
Original Mulan: "You can achieve anything through hardwork, determination, thinking outside the box, and being true to yourself." Also shows that any girl/anyone can be like Mulan, which makes her relatable & makes everyone (especially young girls) feel included.
Mulan 2020: "You can achieve anything as long as you are the chosen one." Basically saying that only a select few/privileged people can be Mulan, which reduces her relatability & excludes everyone.
Disney:"What, little girls can't relate to perfect super women?"
I watched the Accented Cinema video before yours, and oh god, his dissapointment is so palpable it hurts, I think he never said bad words on a video before that one either, that's the level of this movie
I love how he brought up that a lot of the "traditional Chinese whatever" that Disney said they wanted to bring into the movie is shit that Chinese people these days vehemently dislike. It would be like making a movie for a modern-day French audience and being like "Hey, you know what the French like? Kings! After all, they've had so many!" As if one of the most *globally* significant things the French have ever done *wasn't* _beheading_ a king.
@@erraticonteuse And let's not forget the final part of his video being the last nail in the coffin, when they literally tried to make fanservice from the poem but misunderstood completely the source material, OML that was just pathetic
mu-mula-mulan. more like boo-lan amirightguys*breaks down into tears*
3:26 Is the other movie Cuties? Cause, yeah. It's DEFINITELY the more evil of the two.
This is all so true! Also, the video by Xiran Jay Zhao (Everything Culturally Wrong with Mulan 2020) shows her breaking down the film and how it’s still misrepresented Chinese culture - it’s really interesting.
Everyone: Hey Disney, make Mulan a strong independent woman :)
Disney: Superpowers???
Everyone: No.. like literally strong. Like muscles and fighting.
Disney: Magic superpowers :)
No. Just make her a legend
Disney: spearkicking magic ninja
Lmao this is too funny... how does this not have more likes🤣😂😂😂😂
This movie was like a disconnected first draft, I hate it
Witch is a western concepts, I really don't like how they inserted a Witch into the story, an insult to my culture, they didn't bother to research proper magical beings from China or other parts of Asia, instead they use the Western Witch concept.
That's not getting into what they got wrong about the culture.
Completely agree with this video. I paid the $30 cause I was so excited and ended up so disappointed. The movie stripped away everything that makes the animated version so great.
"The greatest gift of honor is having you for a daughter" that line makes me tear up every time! Nothing in the live action has any emotional weight or heart.
Mulan 1998: I learned to become strong and embrace my strengths.
Mulan 2020: Learning is for posers.
“We don’t tend to break into song when we go to war.” We also can’t defy the physics of gravity and Phoenixes don’t just fucking appear in the sky to guide you or give a cool “Khaleesi has demon wings” shot either
I've seen pornstars have better line delivery & acting skills then the actor who played Mulan in this film... 🤦🤦
🤣😂😅
@Hana Belle ...ikr? 😂😝😂
@Hana Belle 😆...probably, but this was horrible & the lead actor was garbage though ...
Why does this remind me of The Ringer with Johnny Knoxville? "We've seen better acting from pornos" 😂
Mulan is by far my favorite Disney movie. Now I can feel even better knowing I was correct in staying the hell away from the live action
"you just don't break into a song when going to a war"
I would like to point out that Hussites would go to battles singing their battle hymn loudly to presumably scare the enemy by appearing as a bigger army, and probably to boost their courage as well.
The issue with this one is that there wasn’t even a bomb ass sound track to fall back on ex. Beauty and the beast, Aladdin
Even just you talking about the end of 1998 Mulan when her dad hugs her makes me CRY. The 2020 version reminds me of the way I talk to my doctor.
IMAGINING THINKING MAKING THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA WHEN THEY HAVE NO MUSHU AND CRICKET
I remember watching the 2009 Live action Mulan: Rise of a Warrior and really loving it at the time. I was hoping the Disney adaptation would be similar to that but we got this instead :(
I’ve seen that and it is a good movie.
My step dad and I got really excited about this for a moment. While I don't remember the original very well and didn't have an attachment to it when I was younger, I now see it as a great movie I am looking forward to watching again after all these years when I finally use my Disney+ trial (I'm waiting for some stuff to be released). That said, I've always recognised Mushu as possibly the best part, and I was really curious how they'd handle a "live action" dragon. The second we found out there was no Mushu we got angry and refused to watch it.
Then, everything changed when the Fire Na..oh wait, wrong remake...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is no mulan 2020 in ba sing sae
“We don’t tend to break into song when we go to war.”
Ahem.
I heard a story once.
At the battle of Bussaco (if I recall correctly) a Major whose name I forget (I think it was James, I’m sure he was Scottish) was ordered to take a hill occupied by at least a battalion of Frenchmen with his few (elite) half companies. Off he obediently trotted, half companies strung out in open line behind him, singing Hearts Of Oak at the top of his lungs. The half companies did not manage to take the hill, but they did manage to keep the French in check for long enough for the rest of the battle to be saved (and eventually won) and reinforcements sent to him. The casualties they suffered were terrible, (made worse by the fact that a whole battalion of supposedly allied Spanish infantry who could have chased off the French before they ever sumitted the hill was sat at the bottom refusing to fight because it was a Sunday) and I regret to say the good Major himself died from his wounds. Unless I am mixing up two stories, in which case he may well have lived but only been badly injured.
There are many many (many) stories of soldiers singing going to battle. The Vikings had war songs, the Romans had war songs, even the French have war songs, I am certain the Chinese do too. The military band exists for a reason. It is good for your morale to sing, and it is bad for the enemy morale to hear your singing drowning out theirs. Tribal dances exist for the same reason. One might argue that music is one of the most important overlooked aspects of war, except that the military don’t overlook it at all, which is why there are so many scenes of war movies with purple haze being blasted out of a PA system while someone is machine gunning enemy combatants with the cannon of a Charlie 130. That actually happened, in the second gulf war they really did play The Boys Are Back In Town to the Iraqis, just to rub it in. Military music is a fascinating subject in and of itself.
Anyway, the part you were waiting for. You see those lazy bastard Spanish sat about over there? Well they’re too god damn yellow to save their own bloody country, so we’ve got to do it for them. Form line boys, open order. Right, let’s go shift those Frenchmen off our hill shall we?
By the left.
Come cheer up m’lads ‘tis to glory we steer!
To make something more of this wonderful year,
To honour we call you as free men not slaves,
For who are so free as the sons of the waves!
HEARTS OF OAK are our ships!
JOLLY TARS are our men!
We always are ready,
Steady boys steady!
Mary Sue the movie 3. Training? Who needs that???
Also where's Baby Yoda????
Yeah, between Ray, Captain Marvel, and now live action Mulan, disney seems to be under the impression that good female characters are only good if they're generically good, beautiful, and powerful, more so than "tHe oThEr gIrLs," who only live to save others and sacrifice themselves, always. I wonder if they know that's uncomfortably similar to old school chivalry or not...
@@JackedThor-so Disney has a habit of misusing the female gender to excuse their bad writing
I think the young lady playing Mulan is a trained martial artist. Not an actress. Which would explain her stoic expressions.
I think. So if they leaned more into her fighting abilities then depending on line work so much, the action scenes would have been better at least.
Or just gotten an actress and kept the line work and there would have been more emotion and depth to the film.
The point is that this means she probably knows how stupid the Chi thing was implemented.... (But hey she probably was glad to get the pay check like everyone would be... Just can't imagine how frustrated she must have been xD)
Last time I came this early my wife left me.
i love the way she's in the verge-of-tears-type-voice when desperate to make an obvious point
The director that is giving interviews looks like that scary Karen
Just watching the scene with the animated Mulan's dad again, make my eyes teary. And I hate crying.
How could they butcher this....
*5:30** thr are plenty of songs in war.* war songs, marching songs, ballards, fart songs, anthems. like. lots. -JC
I know this is completely unrelated but I LOVE that Gabumon plush just chilling in the background :)
Mulan 2020
Woman + powers = Warrior
Man = Warrior
Hmmm....
(I did watch it and hated it so much)
Mulan 2020 in a nutshell: Let's take a well developed beloved female character and make her a Mary Sue with no expression. Such a shame, I remember watching the animated film as a kid and liking it but I expect nothing less from modern Disney (let's hope losing 140 million dollars teaches them a lesson)
NGL, I would LOVE to see how they would adapt the Mulan 2 movie. Just to see how much more of a dumpster fire that would be compared to the original.
I'm sorry, not dumpster fire, a dumpster *PHOENIX*
We should have known it was going to suck because it is 2020 Mulan.
I knew it was going to suck when they said Mushu wasn't in it.
You coulda just stopped at "2020."
Director: we want to stay true to the culture
Also director: ads a witch that wasn't even in the original
OMG! this movie actually has a 51% audience score? HOW?!
That's about 50% higher than I honestly expected, the story is bad, the effects are bad, the acting is worse than bad, the fight scenes and choreography are even more worse than bad, the message is f#@ked... There is literally not a single positive thing I can say about this film....
although I guess China has some pretty landscapes, but that's not something the movie gets credit for
The live action just made me love and appreciate the genius of the 1998 version even more
Mulan: Making all the mistakes of the past remakes and a lot more!
Can’t believe it’s actually worse than the lion king wth??
@@TT-ig7tg somehow it is
This is the second video I've ever watched on your channel and I love how much you rant and how passionate you sound while talking about stuff
Me: Has a quiz tomorrow.
Amanda uploads
Me: OHOOHOHO *rubs hands* I have been WAITING.
(did I mention it's 2 am?)
I wish you luck on your quiz :)
Best of luck on your quiz, though I would ALSO put off studying to watch Amanda any time! 😺❣️
Hearing you talk about the live action version of Mulan only made me want to watch the animated Mulan more and not this new thing...