Yamato - Positioning Is Difficult
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2017
- With all the DD spam as of late, I figured I'd feature the mother of all BBs, the Yamato, as a change. This game is rather interesting because it displays how difficult it can sometimes be to find a position to both tank for the team and not just eat unnecessary damage. You can find my recommended build at the end as usual.
- Ігри
Anyone can tank damage and die in a BB, but tanking damage just for the sake of tanking is pointless, making sure the damage you eat actually benefits the team is significantly more difficult. This game in particular is interesting because it shows just how difficult it is for me to find an opportunity to actually do something meaningful with my HP pool. Also I think I called the yugumo a fletcher at one point, sorry about that.
Calling a Yugumo a Fletcher? Have you been drinking with Jingles lately??
Name was "SaltySpuds?" "MashedPotatoes?"
please show the peasant here how to play aircraft carrier after it had been nerf so bad here
Come on Flamu. Please make a video comparing Fletcher vs Gearing. I've been writing this for a week now :(
Flamu sir, i know you made your point about why not to do a Best T10 BB vid cuz of the conqueror and etc. and so on, but could you try atleast? Im really frustrated to play my Yamato now, and its my only T10. I know there is no real cause conquerer but still :/
9:02 it's not that big of a dildo
-Flamu 2017
as soon as I heard it myself I immediately checked the comments...was not disappointed :)
Spood Beest...
Shit at an Angle...
it's not that big of a Dildo...
Flamu's - 3 main teachings to scrubs like us...
Yep! "Dildo" confirmed!...Mouse in one hand!...Dildo in the other!...
eohjteopit i wanted to post that to ... :)))
Its big enough..... :3
11:08 Torpedo reload Fletcher. Possibly the best torpedo boat in game.
ofi123 make the best torp boat even better at torping
And it gets amazing spood beast, totally overpowered
You shouldn't be using the 'spood beast' on the Fletcher. It is fast enough, and DefAA (especially with the recent buff) is great for defending against CVs, or swatting down a pesky spotter plane to preserve your stealth.
I'll take my Z52 any day.
well thats what the beham kinda is tho different type of ship class
I linked this video in my clan discord only to find out afterwards that another clan member was on the enemy team in a Mogami and got deleted by Flamu. This makes this video extra special. We won't let our clan member forget. Like ever.
Dude, thanks for the vid! Recently I just got my Yamato, and despite doing ok in it (60% WR and 122k dmg in average), I find it somewhat difficult to play, especially positioning-wise. The worst thing is, I try to get near the cap as you did here and support my DDs, but the problem is that half the time team abandons the cap, and I'm left stranded because I can't turn as there are usually 2-3 BBs just waiting for me to show that juicy citadel. What I do is usually reverse and just hope that there aren't any flanking DDs. What I'm trying to say is that team usually does not understand how to support Yamato or make room for it to kick off its potential and that encourages passive, camping style of play that I really hate.
In those rare occasions when I get really good team that supports me or the other BBs, wins are usually so one sided its laughable. Thanks for the tips & keep up the good work!
Goran Radosevic How do you aim in Yamato? I just got mine yesterday and Izumo was so easy with hardly any lead but Yamato I find always has pretty rough dispersion at the range I’m forced to play at. My instinct is to get to mid range but that results in toro deletion so I’m not sure how to handle it.
I enjoy your explanation videos so much! GJ Flamu :)
18:35 the grade of psychological warfare from you is quite impressive. bet they both never had a clue, that you tricked them into shootin you while the CA secures the cap. as always, pretty nice battle. *thumbs up*
This thing is awesome with the priority target that Flamu mentions. I particularly love playing DDs. I can imagine the mind games you can play on enemy BB players. Switching from torps to guns on a specific target making him go crazy with panic that he is being torped and then without switching off torps you launch at another BB. Brilliant!
I use AA over Reload upgrade because I can't stand that traverse and it helps a little bit with planes, not that there are a lot of those but still.
Name suggestion for NA: Emigrated Potato.
Emigrated POITATO... is better hehe
Kinda late but... What was his old name (the one that got changed)?
Great game flamu !! Love your vid's !!
can anyone tell me what the little timer is up there next to the ship list at the top? Is it just an in-game clock?
Thank you for this vid, really useful information.
Great vid Flamu! Thanks!
i never want to see flamu in a yamato in the enemy team
If you have HE, then just spam it at him like every other cruiser with autism does.
I never want to see Flamu in the enemy team ... no matter which ship he is in...
The enemy team probably didn't even know it was Flamu given the generic name he was assigned. Bet they know now
Still watcing this video after one year, epic.
Effective positioning in a Yamato: anywhere within 26km and an unobstructed view of a Montana
SigmaPrime compared to 2017 Montana... Yamato is pointless 😋
lol yamato eats montana all day, love deleting so those soft squishy american bbs. they are the best bbs to face.
Love to see some people still live in 2016 dreams. Just go watch the reviews or Montana gameplay. Good luck cit'ing Montana's Thank to NA noob community, now she has "Deep Water Citadel". Also, I'm from SEA, here with shit on Yamato with every other TX BB.
Icy Phoenix 2016? I'm so old I'm still hoping they're going add kitakami back in
Montana can kick Yamato’s ass at range. Fire HE, the Yam can only hope to just penetrate you. Any slight angle will defeat the Yamato’s guns.
Flamu which is better to put my Yamamoto into: Yamato or Zao?
“Idaho_Tuber” for NA Server. Multiple interpretations ;)
This is very best type of video from you. 2 other great examples were BB as top Tier and BB as bottom Tier. Positioning, use of islands, predicting and faking out torp DD, using terrain to isolate enemies, and lots more to learn.
Thanks!
Impressive Flamu. You are playing the BB at such a high tactical level.
Im a fan of U Flamu u helped me a lot to learn in this game and ur a genius and game changer
is there other battles on tier x then 4 or more dd's?? 🤔
Flamu what do you think about changing concealment for basics of survavibility and to make yamato full tank?
Walking the fine line between sniping and tanking. A hard skill I'm still trying to master...my personal preference is still too much YOLO. :)
fantastic as always.thanks
What was Flamu's NA username? ;o
what captain skills you use? and why use the spotter plane?
Can we have a F. der Große video next with updated build? Since your latest vid is on the Russian server with a joke build, and the prior is before 0.6.0 i think.
You are inteded to freeXP through it and then use tank build on GK
Free XP the FdG ?? She might have terrible dispersion, but with the Tank/AA Build i ve used on her she was a Fortress ! 4,7 Planes shot down in my Stats thx to manual AA.
Try to get close together with others and tank.
I have the GK for a while, but my pot dmg Record still is 5,3M with the FdG :)
I run aiming systems on my FDG, leaving me with a 9.6 km secondary range but those guns now sing. Aimed properly they deal a lot of damage even at distances over 15km.
Since the reduced damage and fire chance on german secondaries I prefer to rely on my main guns.
I run the same module also on Gneisenau and I find it very useful while Scharn, Bismarck, Tirpitz and Kurfurst are full secondary build.
hello. I am new to the yamato and it seems like the shell flight time is faster than the flight time indicator is saying. For example it seems if the flight time would be 10 second if I aim for that mark that the shells are landing in front of the target. No the target did not slow down.
After listening to this while playing for a few minutes, all I hear is "The Yamato isn't good at..." "The Yamato is the worst battleship at this" "The Yamato is really vulnerable to..."
After playing it for some time now, I've come to realize that it's basically giant guns strapped to 50,000 tons of firewood and torpedo bulges. Wish Wargaming would change them so they have more of a proper role. They need support at all times, get focused down, their AA is too close ranged to defend itself until it's already taken damage, it's rudder shift is glacial. You really don't have much choice in terms of strategy, you have to stay near team 90% of the time or you are absolutely screwed.
Just got her! Love it 😀
All these Comments about flamu sniping must be from em salty cruiser and DD Captains who think BB's should charge head first into everything and tank the entire team on one flank and then proceed to complain about them commiting suicide.
sometimes feel Flamu's shot always get a 100knot more velocity.or maybe ive accidentally open x0.25 video speed.
The most difficult part about me for Yamato is maneuvering into a good position to tank. I will shoot at DDs if I can get a good salvo off two minutes into a game, but at the start I usually try to force radar ships and capital ships to stop or retreat, preventing them from supporting their team
can you make a new atlanta video with ifhe buff?
Great video. Flamu pretty summed up every single points to be a good Yamato player, which is what the most Yammy players are lacking.
i love how you casually land a citadel hit like it's no big deal
Once see a kurfurst im playing yamato that kurfurst always fire He first and when he got one fire he will than switch to AP because most of us wont repair one fire Flamu is it ok to do that ?
i sometimes do that as well in any bbs. there are times when setting a fire is the best option. maybe no in the yamato tho, ap is so good.
what was the old name?
Is it just me or did the audio sound exceptionally good this video?
He got a new mic when he started the pan asian DD videos.
How about a series where you revisit some of the premiums you haven't featured in a while (Murmansk, Texas, Atago etc)?
Name suggestion "PEI Potato". Prince Edward Island is a Province in Canada that is known for growing potatoes. They even have a marketing campaign with a song about PEI Potatoes 😋
Can we have DM Donskoi next please? I don't think you have covered it in a long long time, and I consider it one of the strongest T9 cruisers in the game.
I think German BB HE is okay ... for the one situation it´s meant to be used in ... on an angled enemy BB ... otherwise it´s pretty weak yes.
When I face angled BB I just aim higher with AP. Hopefully disable their guns too.
I do that too if i happen to have AP in the barrels. If i can que up the next volley though (seing enemy turning) i have at least 1 volley HE ready to go (hopefully get a fire) and when his turn is through i have the qued up AP for the next one ready again.
where are you from
I want to snipe in yamato.. But the problem is everybody likes to follow my example.. Also I seem to get cyclones more then half the time.. Ship choices are sometimes handicapped by a random change of cyclones
Great vid--wish I could play like that...LOL
Well you could name yourself after the old Star Blazers cartoon about the Yamato. StarPotato!
I still think lowering the citadel on the Iowa and Montana was a mistake, they were fine before now its on par with the Conqueror in therm of BS. Tier 9 and 10 nothing has a citadel appart from Yammy
I still get citadels on broadside late tier US BBs tho, even in Amagi, I think their citadels are fine
Now stupid smolensk exist to farm dmg on yamato
The most impressive is the knowledge u have about the ships ... omg
This Yugumo is a torpedo reloading Fletcher - Flamu
Well, in fact you don't need premium spotter plane at all, because you can barely use 4 of them during a 20 min battle ... the only interest is the shorter cooldown but ...
I know it's not a lot of money.
I'm just saying ...
Mirdwen at tier ten you might as well run all premy, spotter is still very useful
but your spotter plane can get shot down. then is nice to have one spare.
plus premium reduces the cooldown. i agree its not top priority tho
This boat is a good example of the ebb and flow of power in this game. She used to be the best BB in the game but with revisions and additions of other BBs that power has shifted a bit. Its likely that she will get some revisions in the future and perhaps once again rise to power. Many boats are like that in this game.
Mostly Japanese ones tbh. Less than a year ago Kongo was to many the best t5 BB, but now with Oktober and Cesare, she doesn't really come too close
Nice one
Flamu, as you always refer to the priority target perk with its changeing count (torps to guns and vice versa) - you could do a commentary on how to abuse people that are running PT and are paying attention to it. I find it very useful to just not aim at them at all while not in torp view. So they will never know i am there and i aim at them or i sent my torps at their direction. Works good. Just a suggestion.
If you target them with torps it doesn't show in the PT count, only gun does. That's why when you go from 1 to 0 and there is a DD nearby you know torps are coming your way.
Did you read my comment? Does not seems so. You just wrote what i basically said already.
kthxbye
What about CW, it seems the Mongty with its better turn out potential and 12 barrels fares better
You’re a genius
goodvids
5:49 was waiting for that dispersion to get him a team kill lol...almost.
Royal Navy Syndrome...is a real thing. Except that IJN BBs do HE pretty well too. 9/10 when I play my Kongo in RB, I'm using HE to start off with. I would say only about 1/2 the players know how to deal with fires in the most efficient way, so using HE with IJN can end up working out well.
As a new player the tactic i use is identical to what i did when i started wot three years ago.. Always watch more time of videos with skilled players than actually playing the game. At least for the first months to get knowledge without finding it out the bad way :)
Stathis Papadopoulos stick with Flamu for positioning and know-how, stick to iChase for in-depth mechanics knowledge
Donny Whisnu Yup thats what i do, like i did and still do with quickybaby, dezgames, jingles and jedi in wot it helps so much watching an experienced player play the game.
4:09 how ???
What was his name before?
Ochinchindaisuki
I think it was something along the lines of OchinchinDaisuki...which means I like dick in weeb speak
Chas Gaspar - “BringBackBastion” or something like that making fun of that horrible game mode.
From last streaming
i do only 25k damage per batlle with yammy :(
gg, tovarisch
Still Voting "Prof.Humbledore" as new NA name
What's the deal with Renameduser players? Why are they called like that?
Why didn't you rush B?
He said so himself - you could have been rushed by the Kurfurst... Which would be a nightmare...
If he was ambushed by Kurfurst and have tried to turn - he would have been nuke by that Kurfurst, if he reversed he would be torped from A by Yugumo or would have been sniped by both Yamato or NC...
Just_Some_Random_Tryhard_Gamer Soz ;) Thanks for educating me though haha
Cuz flamu didn't buy P90 that why he not rush B.
Resonance 47 I heard the P90 could get the Yamato as an attachment
Where's my notification, UA-cam?!
There are situations where using he with the yamato at another bb is a better than using AP. I play my Yamato in CW, and i had to fight GKs so many times and tho i had a lot of pens less than a half of them did avtually damage the ship this happens mostly when i'm far away from it but i don't have other targets to shoot at. So i just load HE which is f*cking strong on the yamato thanks to the high caliber and i burn the GKs for half of their hp till they can't even shoot back. :D
6:08 for instant krey-gasm
this suicideyollobotterchilds tactics is full normal in ALL wg games!
Lol yeah, royal navy syndrome. Has French battleships shooting HE at my new york I just went WTF since I have a few and know that with AP they are pretty efficient.
okay neo
Royal Navy syndrome :D
wow
why not basics of survivability as another option instead of vigilance?
Textbook game, gg
play shikishma plz.. worst t-10 close range dispersion ship
9:01 "it's not that big of a dildo" :O
I see a concealment Yamato... great build!
btw. Flamu(looks like wg hates your name) as renamed_user is danger, we dont expect to a player be too OP like you without an name. diferently from the Player_BIGNUMBER that actually dont have a registered account and normally sucks more than bots!sry but its truth
@Flamu. since youre name is potato on the russian server. why not calle youre self backon or somthing like that :P
why is the matchmaking so bad on the na server
WG didnt like your name. I wonder how they will like mine xD Envymysack
Montana pls
Typical NA matchmaking 5 DDs and BBs per side, and two sorry cruisers, especially those Mogamis, I mean the only way the mm would have been worse is if instead of the other cruiser there was a CV, and I bet the first ship the carriers would have deleted would have been the mogami.
no basics of survivability?
Well he chose Vigilance over Basics of survivability... I guess that 10 second reduction in dmg control is not as good as having a better chance in detecting and dodging torps early.
Either way both are good options... you just have to pick either one.
Plus he chose Fire Prevention as opposed to not having Basics of Survivability by trading off AFT.
26:27 Yugumo was last seen at northern edge of B according to minimap (not A)
gg
6:09 Showing broadside in a Moskva in front of a BB *facepalms*
That's a paddlin'!
Not as facepalm as seeing the hordes of British BB's in game firing HE against targets giving broadsides lol. Who cares how good the HE is when you can send fuckers back to port with one AP salvo.
20km yammy game facing a conqueror one bad shot 3over pen one pen conqueror 3hit 1 fire .wich is more favorable to you.
royal navy syndrome
So basically, with Yamato it's better to sit further back in the beginning rather than move too far forward.
In the past it was the opposite... You rush in a Yamato with beast mode secondary build and wreak havoc to anything that even attempts to angle with your LOLPEN guns...
Then German and British Battleships came in with Citadel-proof armour and now American Battleships have their citadels lowered below water line too...
Indeed, I never experienced that because I got Yamato at the same time as the Iowa&Mont citadel lowering, but I remember the days when Yamato was considered the ultimate BB in the game, and people even talking about secondary build being viable. Then came the German BBs with Kurfurst and everyone was like "No way, a T10 BB that's a better brawler than Yamato?". It's a bit sad to see Yamato being somewhat pushed out of the meta, where adaptability and volume of fire means more than fewer but more powerful strikes. It's ironic that the negatively viewed "BB camping/sniping meta" (which I agree is rather boring) is actually the one that fits Yamato best. I guess I just have to accept the meta change, learn to play her despite the difficulty and keep looking for opportunities to use her strengths. She was one of the reasons I started playing this game after all.
With a 72 second turret traverse you don't want to get close to ANYTHING
Yeah, I know. Or 60 with expert marksman, but still true.
I heard if you are early Flamu sometimes replies?
Sounds like crazy talk to me
Leave it Renamed User.
seeing these comments and video makes me curse wargaming for what they did to this game
How to position on Yamato?
Position your mouse top of the 'sell' button and click.
Someone's a hater.......
Pienimusta
Wut da fuck
USN fanboi confirmed
@@thelvadam2884 hi thel vadem
uses he in two salvo's in a Yamato to guarantee a kill on an enemy bow tanking Low HP yamato.
random teammate gets salty and tell me to "go to hell".
i know SPAMMING he in a Yamato is a cardinal sin but getting that from using ounly two salvos in one match? jeez XD
Tbh I would argue the Yamato is a very bad solo random ship.
Something like Montana can perform substantially better and can offer better team play and can do more active things like brawl with cruisers and other BBs. Yamato can’t really do that.