I wouldn’t say “more energy”, rather it’s just more bouncy and smooth, but that’s exactly what was intended, because the ZZZ characters were created for this kind of animation. It wouldn’t suit Genshin, but rather ZZZ. I wonder when it will come out, but for now it's worth at least waiting for the third CBT.
you don't have to bring genshin up in every non-genshin gacha game video. they are different games, both worked hard on. just because ones animation is better doesn't mean the other is bad, worse or wtv you tried to point out by bringing a different game up
It's not animation it's mocap, but the actress is pulling really cartoony moves instead of acting like a normal person. That's why it gives you a sense of "good animation", real it's just a mocap girl that acts really well as a cartoony girl. If you notice it a bit you can see that it's a real person doing all the moves instead of using an animation program.
I love the modern use of old school techniques of animation today. From painted backgrounds in puss and boots, to smears in spiderverse and now squash and strech and exaggeration in ZZZ. Im so glad 3d animation is finally take the shape we enjoy and adding on to that. 💜
Squish and stretch animation in 3d products has always been happening, this isn't some revolution and not in the same vein as what Spiderverse came up with lmao. Literally Overwatch is using it.
@@anecro we didn't say it it's revolutionary, but just something fresh to see. With all the animation of today infact. Also overwatch use of squash and stretch is more of overshooting. In very subtle ways. This is something similar in a zippy loney tunes cartoon.
@@mahamadeuswardhana8860 It ain't fresh either, tons of videogames use it, especially 2d platformers. "and now squash and strech and exaggeration in ZZZ" is incorrect, by far not where this started. Just because AAA games would rather go with realism doesn't mean it's new is all, cause that was definitely what was being said initially. I mean hell, Multi-versus came out before this which is literally Looney Tunes lol
Higher framerate animation is simply better, as long as you actually use the correct techniques -- instead of people who use the same techniques & principles designed EXPLICITLY for 12-30fps animation (or worse, make low framerate animation and then use an AI upscaler and stupidly use that to say "see high framerate animation bad :D")
^both of you have no idea what you're talking about, do you enjoy just making up random bullshit and lies to say on the internet? does it make you feel good or something? 🤣
@@theSatoif it was simply better, artists would shift over to it and what techniques are you talking about? Animation principles aren't tied to frame-rate.
@@theSato That's just... not right. Framerate has a ton more effect on animation and motion than just framerate itself, ask any filmmaker or cameraman. And "the same techniques and principles"? much of the techniques at play translate. 60fps animation CAN look good, or it can be useless or unnoticeable, or have significant drawbacks and increases in production time for marginal games.
@@theSato 2D-style animation generally has variable framerate depending on the motion/scene, I assume the game's animation in general will favour 60fps to be in line with the main gameplay with some variable moments for filmic scenes. Animation techniques are more about how the brain processes moving pictures and action rather than any specific framerate, it's even used in the latest VR helmet products (Apple Vision has mostly black frames in the output to make motion look better without reaching the required FPS to actually render every frame without making you throw up) - the brain fills the gap between static frames to create smooth motion, you need to figure out when that works to your benefit.
I'm in the beta and I'm glad I didn't get sucked into the negative reviews and got to tried it for myself, the vibe and the world is just my style and type.(Music especially) The main TV complains didn't really bother me(I actually find it entertaining), to some its just fine like in my case. People like different things not everyone is the same. Try it for yourselves when It comes out rather than bashing it because someone said so.
The tv was haevily reduced but the very people it was rediced for aren't even willing to give the game a chance... i mean 2 out of the 3 end game modes don't even have it and the third is literally simulated universe. I'm realy annyoed by how unfairly a lot of ccs treat this game. Especially when the same people complitly forgive every fault wuwa has.
People will often nickpick on anything they can because they’re annoyed or don’t like the game.We’ve seen what happened to wuthering waves how alot of people hate on it for no reason just because it’s “similar” to genshin when genshin is literally breath of the wild.Plus every game is inspired from other games
If we compare with genshin and HSR, we can see a very clear difference between the three as ZZZ's animation is more energetic and fun than the other two games, which makes it a lot more interesting
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 You'd be surprised - Honkai Impact 3rd's animations are a lot more flashy than Genshin's despite Genshin being the newer game. The style of game also has a factor - since Genshin is open world exploration, there's more a focus on making the scenery both beautiful and usable, compared to the hack and slash gameplay of HI3rd and what ZZZ looks to be shaping up to be.
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 Genshin came 4 Years after hi3rd and still way worse. Genshin characters only have any Movement on cutscenes, Before that Its Just Statues talking, and thats really lazy from a billionare game.
Animation only. I'm 10 hours in beta, still can't understand why I should play this game. Caverns are boring, battles repetitive, gacha screen deserves better.
Ain’t no way I’m believing ZZZ will be as good on release and beyond. As far I’m seeing they still need to do something unique. Make me as a player want to spend time in the story, gameplay, and endgame to feel worthwhile.
@@JamiaKlanister I played the beta for 40 minutes, isn't one gameplay enough to spend my life here? I'm still playing hi3, there, as you may know, the gameplay is there at the clicker level. ZZZ is literally a gacha game with the coolest combat system
@@sebberzzz565 I don't feel like that's what the OP was implying. They were implying that there is a word for this style of animation, and that's called 'cartoonish'. That's all there is to it.
@@danielantony1882 Cartoony probably would have been the better word choice though, since people usually use the word 'cartoonish' with negative connotations for some reason.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 It's not mutually exclusive. As much as it can have negative connotations, context can change it. As far as I'm a ware, the OP didn't imply anything negative. Your observations are surface-level.
The thumbnail adapted a principle called "Squash and Stretch" from the 12 Principles of Animation, which is usually done with an elastic object that look stretched when it's falling to the ground. I guess that means this cat is elastic enough to do that. Very nice I want one 😍
- strong af but gentle af - carrying a weapon most people even most raiders cannot lift - low self-confidence & overestimating others too much - one of her skills literally has 'sweep' in its name hey you guys it's ZZZ Noelle
@@maniekoddajziemniaki7373yeah ofc i do im a machinist 💀 at 0:15 u can see the blade going counter clockwise, the opposite way of what the teeth are facing. Not saying the animation is bad however, its not supposed to be realistic
What you are seeing that makes you think it looks better than it actually is, is the speed at which everything is happening at once, which gives you a sense that more is "packed into it"
I like how ZZZ has 2 sides of gameplay, similar to Persona 5. One is where you can explore the town map and getting materials, another is where you'll be focus on combat
@@anecro it's more Honkai Impact where it has a dodge/hack & slash qte. And no it's not like genshin. It's also more like Hi3rd & Persona where you have to enter the battle like a dungeon instead of just running around in an open world map. Just look at how Persona 5 enter the battle/dungeon
The animators clearly knows what their are doing...or not So much is happening at every second, it's hard to follow. It's fluid, no denying that. But there isn't any pause, or silence. Some commenters wrote "cartoonish" but even as a cartoon, it's not very well done.
Simple. Mihoyo simply started their own animation studio(I'm not kidding, they actually have their own animation studio, but mostly for animated shorts and stuff)
@@aethelon4144 Oh i know they have their own anime studio that exist since HI3, mihoyoAnime. But i think they usually focus on drawn animations instead of in-game animations. A 3D in-game animation that can replicate movements just like a hand-drawn 2D animations and with this kind of fluidity & expressions is really rare imo due to limitations of what 3D animations can do compared to 2D and also a game animation compared to a hand-drawn one.
A bit too much movement exageration for my liking, there is very little spacing between movements and also the physics feel quite unnatural since they are way too bouncy.
Watching is one thing. I couldn't stop playing the first hour of gameplay, there was no more time yet. This is the best hoevers game in terms of gameplay
0:10 Here's johnny
Great reference
That's literally what I thought 🤣🤣
lol this should have more likes and be at the top.
I didn't notice someone beat me to it😂😂😂😂
0:14 blade wolf
A lot more energy than genshin's, but it makes sense given the over the top nature of zzz
I wouldn’t say “more energy”, rather it’s just more bouncy and smooth, but that’s exactly what was intended, because the ZZZ characters were created for this kind of animation. It wouldn’t suit Genshin, but rather ZZZ. I wonder when it will come out, but for now it's worth at least waiting for the third CBT.
@@Mari_SayBoth Honkai games are getting this treatment now a little bit too so..
you don't have to bring genshin up in every non-genshin gacha game video. they are different games, both worked hard on. just because ones animation is better doesn't mean the other is bad, worse or wtv you tried to point out by bringing a different game up
@stsgwho. But i never called genshin garbage, though. I'm just acknowledging how different zzz is to it.
@@animebro14 no shit its new 😂 gi has been here since '20
No fps choppyness, great use of colors and smooth movement, and then suddenly
Statue 🗿
Gotta cut cost somewhere
Every frames of that animation costs $$$
I like how we can tell exactly where the budget went
What exactly is fps choppyness ? I hope you arent referring to anything like animating on 2 or something
@@Lyfalda 3D animators sometimes force 12 or 24 fps to make it look the classic handdrawn feel or to save up animating keyframes
Definitely feel more.... I don't know the word.
Bubbly?
Cutesy?
Definitely NOT overly done
Expressive
They are using the property of squash and stretch a lot more, I think that might be why
Bouncy, snappy, more like a Tom and Jerry(the good ones) skit than a traditional anime style.
Think more like TikTok instead of Early UA-cam.
It's squash and stretch. A very old animation style
FLUID
ZZZ's animation design brings a very fun and street-like feeling, I like this so much!
You’re the biggest npc
@@milkxv🤡
street-like?
@@milkxvstupid
@@PRO100Dreikstupid
Pure peak animation
It's not animation it's mocap, but the actress is pulling really cartoony moves instead of acting like a normal person.
That's why it gives you a sense of "good animation", real it's just a mocap girl that acts really well as a cartoony girl.
If you notice it a bit you can see that it's a real person doing all the moves instead of using an animation program.
@@IIIllllIlllIIIIllllllIIIIII oh, thanks!!
Nah, this is peak. Hand drawn, no mocap, 60fps. ua-cam.com/video/GuX52wkCIJA/v-deo.html
@@IIIllllIlllIIIIllllllIIIIIIbut not everything, right? There are some parts that are actually hand-animated
I love the modern use of old school techniques of animation today. From painted backgrounds in puss and boots, to smears in spiderverse and now squash and strech and exaggeration in ZZZ. Im so glad 3d animation is finally take the shape we enjoy and adding on to that. 💜
This is why art direction is important.
@@Joshua_N-A super important. And makes such a difference and impression.
Squish and stretch animation in 3d products has always been happening, this isn't some revolution and not in the same vein as what Spiderverse came up with lmao. Literally Overwatch is using it.
@@anecro we didn't say it it's revolutionary, but just something fresh to see. With all the animation of today infact. Also overwatch use of squash and stretch is more of overshooting. In very subtle ways. This is something similar in a zippy loney tunes cartoon.
@@mahamadeuswardhana8860 It ain't fresh either, tons of videogames use it, especially 2d platformers. "and now squash and strech and exaggeration in ZZZ" is incorrect, by far not where this started.
Just because AAA games would rather go with realism doesn't mean it's new is all, cause that was definitely what was being said initially. I mean hell, Multi-versus came out before this which is literally Looney Tunes lol
ZZZ cutscenes are actually animated in 60fps as opposed to the standard 30fps in other miHoYo titles.
Higher framerate animation is simply better, as long as you actually use the correct techniques -- instead of people who use the same techniques & principles designed EXPLICITLY for 12-30fps animation (or worse, make low framerate animation and then use an AI upscaler and stupidly use that to say "see high framerate animation bad :D")
^both of you have no idea what you're talking about, do you enjoy just making up random bullshit and lies to say on the internet? does it make you feel good or something? 🤣
@@theSatoif it was simply better, artists would shift over to it and what techniques are you talking about?
Animation principles aren't tied to frame-rate.
@@theSato That's just... not right. Framerate has a ton more effect on animation and motion than just framerate itself, ask any filmmaker or cameraman. And "the same techniques and principles"? much of the techniques at play translate. 60fps animation CAN look good, or it can be useless or unnoticeable, or have significant drawbacks and increases in production time for marginal games.
@@theSato 2D-style animation generally has variable framerate depending on the motion/scene, I assume the game's animation in general will favour 60fps to be in line with the main gameplay with some variable moments for filmic scenes.
Animation techniques are more about how the brain processes moving pictures and action rather than any specific framerate, it's even used in the latest VR helmet products (Apple Vision has mostly black frames in the output to make motion look better without reaching the required FPS to actually render every frame without making you throw up) - the brain fills the gap between static frames to create smooth motion, you need to figure out when that works to your benefit.
"Greetings, cyborg."
"Show yourself."
0:10
Here's Johnny
I'm my own master now
Even the MGSR reference i swear to god, they knew what they were doing with this one 😂
The comment i was looking for
I'm in the beta and I'm glad I didn't get sucked into the negative reviews and got to tried it for myself, the vibe and the world is just my style and type.(Music especially)
The main TV complains didn't really bother me(I actually find it entertaining), to some its just fine like in my case. People like different things
not everyone is the same.
Try it for yourselves when It comes out rather than bashing it because someone said so.
The tv was haevily reduced but the very people it was rediced for aren't even willing to give the game a chance... i mean 2 out of the 3 end game modes don't even have it and the third is literally simulated universe.
I'm realy annyoed by how unfairly a lot of ccs treat this game. Especially when the same people complitly forgive every fault wuwa has.
People will often nickpick on anything they can because they’re annoyed or don’t like the game.We’ve seen what happened to wuthering waves how alot of people hate on it for no reason just because it’s “similar” to genshin when genshin is literally breath of the wild.Plus every game is inspired from other games
They are wuwa kids with hateboner to mihoyo 😂 don't mind them
TV needs work though, the dream would be real-time SU from HSR
@@salvo27809 rent free
If we compare with genshin and HSR, we can see a very clear difference between the three as ZZZ's animation is more energetic and fun than the other two games, which makes it a lot more interesting
I mean no shit of course the newer game would have better animations and graphics than the previous ones.
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 You'd be surprised - Honkai Impact 3rd's animations are a lot more flashy than Genshin's despite Genshin being the newer game.
The style of game also has a factor - since Genshin is open world exploration, there's more a focus on making the scenery both beautiful and usable, compared to the hack and slash gameplay of HI3rd and what ZZZ looks to be shaping up to be.
@@225Reaver I mean HI3 is Hoyo's favorite child.
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817
Genshin came 4 Years after hi3rd and still way worse. Genshin characters only have any Movement on cutscenes, Before that Its Just Statues talking, and thats really lazy from a billionare game.
HI3 is nowhere near ZZZ's level of animation.
Without a doubt, ZZZ will be a very good game to experience
Animation only. I'm 10 hours in beta, still can't understand why I should play this game. Caverns are boring, battles repetitive, gacha screen deserves better.
Ain’t no way I’m believing ZZZ will be as good on release and beyond. As far I’m seeing they still need to do something unique. Make me as a player want to spend time in the story, gameplay, and endgame to feel worthwhile.
Animation only
Everything else is boring and terrible
@@JamiaKlanister In what gacha are battles not repetative?
@@JamiaKlanister I played the beta for 40 minutes, isn't one gameplay enough to spend my life here? I'm still playing hi3, there, as you may know, the gameplay is there at the clicker level. ZZZ is literally a gacha game with the coolest combat system
_Here's JOHNNY_
Second Shining reference in a mihoyo game, firstly the two twins girls in the Belobog hotel and now Here Johnny
It accidentally turned into Metal Gear Rising
cartoonish is the word y'all are looking for.
and is that bad...?
@@sebberzzz565 I don't feel like that's what the OP was implying. They were implying that there is a word for this style of animation, and that's called 'cartoonish'. That's all there is to it.
@@danielantony1882 Cartoony probably would have been the better word choice though, since people usually use the word 'cartoonish' with negative connotations for some reason.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 It's not mutually exclusive. As much as it can have negative connotations, context can change it. As far as I'm a ware, the OP didn't imply anything negative. Your observations are surface-level.
@@danielantony1882 'Cartoony' has less negative connotations than 'cartoonish'. Everything else you said is irrelevant to that immutable fact.
the cut from insanely well done animation to gen 5 pokemon phone call is insane 😭
Wow, squash and stretch animation actually works pretty well with that high fps 3D anime style
"are we watching anime"
"i guess so"
So much energy
Oh my god I have such an obsession with almost over exaggerated and highly expressive animation, I freaking love this
The thumbnail adapted a principle called "Squash and Stretch" from the 12 Principles of Animation, which is usually done with an elastic object that look stretched when it's falling to the ground.
I guess that means this cat is elastic enough to do that. Very nice
I want one 😍
squash and stretch are done when object are moving fast to achieve over exagerate smooth movement
- strong af but gentle af
- carrying a weapon most people even most raiders cannot lift
- low self-confidence & overestimating others too much
- one of her skills literally has 'sweep' in its name
hey you guys it's ZZZ Noelle
The mc being a bangboo is honestly adorable
what is a bangboo?
@@avacado4706 the bunny creature
@@zillowzest5199 ohh I see
I thought the main characters are the siblings, and the small critters are familiars in battle
@@tubester358 Pretty much. Proxies such as Patheon (Wise and Belle) use Bangboos for transmitting and assisting in operations and combat
0:10 the saw blade is well detailed and drawn well ):3
its spinning backwards tho
@@ZythumX You think how saw works?🤦
@@maniekoddajziemniaki7373yeah ofc i do im a machinist 💀 at 0:15 u can see the blade going counter clockwise, the opposite way of what the teeth are facing. Not saying the animation is bad however, its not supposed to be realistic
@@ZythumX well saw work that way 🤯
Such expressive character!
I thought bladewolf was about to appear for some reason.
What you are seeing that makes you think it looks better than it actually is, is the speed at which everything is happening at once, which gives you a sense that more is "packed into it"
I like how ZZZ has 2 sides of gameplay, similar to Persona 5. One is where you can explore the town map and getting materials, another is where you'll be focus on combat
Isn't that literally just Genshin? That is precisely how I'd describe Genshin Impact from all that I know.
@@anecro it's more Honkai Impact where it has a dodge/hack & slash qte. And no it's not like genshin. It's also more like Hi3rd & Persona where you have to enter the battle like a dungeon instead of just running around in an open world map. Just look at how Persona 5 enter the battle/dungeon
@@anecroGenshin is Open World, this is Hack-and-Slash
ボンプが本当に狂おしいほど可愛い、グッズでたら買いたい
I swear Corin don't even know what a menace she is sometimes... I love her 😍
She straight up doesn't get why people are afraid of chainsaws.
I ABSOLUTELY AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS GAME AND TO GET HER I CANT WAIT
so this is where everyone's 50/50 losses went
This whole game's animation is literally movie quality and i love it so god damn much
when animator applied all animation principles
"Amazing animation and fluidity. That's five stars for me."
Excessive movement
Sped up
ZZZ is literally the definition of more Fun and more Energy.
it's so smooth it's unsettling
Can't wait for the game to drop!!
She’s soo cute! I want to cuddle this poor cutie 😭
If I haven't got her before this cutscene. I will have be shocked that such a weapon belong to her
Wtf why is the animation so good-
I like the more cartoon-style animation Zzz has. The squash-and-stretch that many 3d animators avoid is finally being shown in the spotlight.
very well done seems very fluid
The exaggerated movements i just love it
This is high level upgraded sly cooper animation. Just hope we get the play the game with more content and stuff to do.
ZZZ animation is very fluid and goofy like a cartoon but i love it. have been enjoying the gameplay of beta till now
That was amazingggg
This feels like a 3d animation with 2d physics
Hoyoverse setting the standard again for good animation in anime games
They know their strength...
Fluid expression...
i love how borderline over the top this is
Well that's what you get when they pay you high
This shit looks like it is going to be my next addiction
Rare moment when animators get payed
god i would love an anime animated like this. maybe a promotional anime for zzz or something like they did for takt op destiny but 3d
Never thought I'd see anime character with squash and stretch animations, while odd it does work really well surprisingly.
I love Nekomiya in the thumbnail
*S t r e c h t*
The animators clearly knows what their are doing...or not
So much is happening at every second, it's hard to follow. It's fluid, no denying that. But there isn't any pause, or silence.
Some commenters wrote "cartoonish" but even as a cartoon, it's not very well done.
how can something be so smooth and bouncy and at the same time so stiff? like, i'm always aware it's a game with weirdly stiff game movement
Прикиньте, если бы все аниме были с такими анимациями...
So cute and funny
Adult huohuo with pizza slicer meet dark skin kirara.
0:13 METAL GEAR RISING REFERENCE?!!!!
It’s giving me old cartoon classic vibes like something from Scooby Doo
A lot of love from the animators
how the heck mihoyo managed to make a 3D in-game cutscene that look like something that is animated in an animation series..
Simple. Mihoyo simply started their own animation studio(I'm not kidding, they actually have their own animation studio, but mostly for animated shorts and stuff)
thx to genshin's survey of course 😉
@@aethelon4144 Oh i know they have their own anime studio that exist since HI3, mihoyoAnime. But i think they usually focus on drawn animations instead of in-game animations.
A 3D in-game animation that can replicate movements just like a hand-drawn 2D animations and with this kind of fluidity & expressions is really rare imo due to limitations of what 3D animations can do compared to 2D and also a game animation compared to a hand-drawn one.
A bit too much movement exageration for my liking, there is very little spacing between movements and also the physics feel quite unnatural since they are way too bouncy.
Not every game is for everyone
@@sorakuchi3335 Agreed, that is why I said "For my liking," not that it was objectively bad,
the beginning with the saw is a reference to the movie Shining !!
this is definetly an _"Oh... oh okay"_ moment
IMHO this animation style looks much more cinematic like, I prefer it over genshin and hsr. It literally feels like watching anime, not a video game.
not gonna lie, I fell asleep watching people play ZZZ or transition each stage via TVs.
This game will die faster than hi3 ever did.
Watching is one thing. I couldn't stop playing the first hour of gameplay, there was no more time yet. This is the best hoevers game in terms of gameplay
Nah, you are just a, damned weeb
Guess they wanted the clocktower audience with this one 😂😂😂
I know it would be expensive as hell, but i would kill for an entire show i this animation.
Forced animation
It’s not like that’s the point 😐
this games combat is so satisfying plus with cutscenes like this its literally peak
i love ZZZ vibe more than genshin honestly, its such a mood, i love the content
Overcompensating for boring gameplay
Their movements piss me off why are they so exaggerated
The wait was worth it
I love how thyere not afraid to go off model to make the animation more fluid
I love the squash and stretch used for the 3d models, it reminds me of Overwatch
I LOVE the bouncy animation
it feels like everything is made out of rubber and runnning on double speed...
As a Nikke player I have to say this
MINI SODA I MUST HAVE HER
Now this is something worth downloading.
zzz is like everyone was paimon 😂 so much energy
Thr animation has so much effort HOLY
I love the animation at the opening when she’s panicking trying to get out backwards like cats do
These animations just evolved so quickly in hoyoverse
we love corrin
Bro this Animation is BUTTER smooth.
bladewoolf moment
someone needs to make a show with this animation style, and if they won’t, then I will somehow.
i don't know what this is but that was really fluid and detailed animation
i do love me some bouncy animations
Smoooooooth~
0:14 Expected her to do the trademark leon backflip
This feels uncanny
that is indeed peak