Hat off to a true nerd, Sir.. I wouldn't have even the patience today for that. Maybe I'm getting a bit old. I still remember how easy it was to connect to the net back in 1994 with my Amiga. SLIP over the modem connection and done. Fire Mosaic and the world was mine.
I had no idea your channel existed until UA-cam suggested this video to me, and not long after I started watching, I hit the subscribe button. Great work my friend, love seeing people still using their Amigas!
And for all that time Yahoo has been pissing us off with unnecessary fiddling with their interface, when something as simple as this is all we really want, and would still work just fine. I used Pine on a VT220 text terminal for email at university ... still read the inbox contents and composed outgoing messages without any issue, the only problem with it was needing to move to a PC to send/receive attachments. Which it looks like the Amiga can still do... so why overcomplicate things? Telephones still do their job after 120 years, don't they?
It always amazes me, how over the last 20 years this old machines could be adapted to more modern periphery and such. My trusty old A2000, for instance, has even functioning USB-ports. Using thumbdrives is as easy as on a PC. The main issue for Amigas is the lack of newly developed software, which adapts them to newer standards. And this is even more evident, since this amazing Vampire cards came out.
I got my Amiga 600 in 1992, but had it only for a month or two, than I switched to PC. I don't regret it since repairing PCs became a profession to me, but watching this video I do wish I had it for a bit longer... Thanks for the great content, I also came from the 8bit guy and subscribed immediately. Looking forward for more... Cheers
Thanks for watching! 🕹 What did you think? Have you got a modern technology working on a vintage computer? I have tested this without the accelerator and extra RAM. Try it! The accelerator doesn’t ‘enable’ anything, it only affects the speed and image, neither of which enable email. I use the HDMI hi-res because it doesn't flicker like the lo-res. Plain text email doesn't eat RAM either way. An unaccelerated 512KB machine behaves as shown, just slower which makes for a lonnng video. (E.g. that image takes about 5 minutes to load, but load it does!) The thing that potentially gives the A500 the internet ability is the magical combination of Plipbox s/w, AVR-NET-IO, & the Network Boot Disk configurator, not the Vampire card. Thanks! Your friend in retro, Chris aka ԹҽɾíƒɾɑϲԵíϲ
I have yet to get any of my old stuff in a usable state (never mind a modern tech!), in both the hardware side of things, and the "having place to put it once it's working again". Hoping to get a Tapuino built soon, my STfm reassembled and chugging midi out all over the place, my A500+ has seen better days - the latter I need to get up and running soon as I have something special (for me, nobody else will be really bothered) that I'm trying to pull together using good old snail mail. Been subbed a little while, only just getting through the backlogs of peeps vids as I'm subbed to many peeps, a fair few mentioned in this vid and one that is willing to help with my little "special to me" project. I enjoyed this vid, and have been enjoying your recent content too. Have a great day Perifractic :)
Being born in 1990 means I've never really met anything older then Windows 95, and I'm really not a computerofile. However engineering is my field and I've recently discover this whole retro-tech movement. It really is mind boggling to me how a 30-something year old computer can still be compatible with anything seemingly as complex as we have these days. It really seems like an astonishing feat! Congratulations!
A few years ago, I found a first edition iMac at a garage sale for $30 (you know; back when Apple thought contemporary computers didn't need fans). I snatched it up immediately, with the express intent to install Linux onto it. The hard drive was better off for it; it was full of late-90's Napster downloads that my girlfriend at the time begged me to back up. While the entire venture was a complete failure (which, to this day, I'm still building up the courage to fix, since I'm nervous about the prospect of working on a machine connected to a CRT), when installing Linux on a machine like that, you need an Ethernet connection. The machine is using USB 1.0, and while you'll be able to use a router after the fact once Linux is installed, the installation still needs a hard-wired connection. To bring this all to point, at that time, I was piggy-backing wireless from a neighbor. I didn't have access to an Ethernet connection, let alone one long enough to use for an o/s installation. I had to call in favors just to help me in a venture that would constantly smell like hot plastic. The WiFi to Ethernet device you used was something I wish I had at the time, but for the life of me couldn't find. Everytime I watch this video, I'm marveled at the feat you were able to accomplish, but it still takes me back to this debacle I found myself in.
You, sir, are doing a great work. I still clearly remember my first computer, a Commodore 64c with a cassette deck. Later I upgraded to 5.25'' floppy drive. The machine broke once and I had to send it to a local service shop to have some ICs replaced. I had a "Yunost" (made in SSSR) black&white 25cm TV set as my monitor. The whole setup was functional from 1991 to 1996 and was given away as a gift. Oh, and the machine was bought used for 230 Deutsche Mark. The whole setup was replaced with an Intel 486DX2 66MHz with a color monitor (also used) and the rest is history. Best regards from Belgrade, Serbia Sent from my custom built PC running Windows 10
You are very welcome. Yes, those ware the days when computing was so much more personal and involved. It would be truly amazing to have a company like Commodore, or even better, the original Commodore itself around today. However, even if It's long gone, our memories and appreciation are here to stay! Keep up the good work.
Ok. This is absolutely great. My dream would be to live with 80s tech only (and a lifebook s from 2005 for flashes and such) but still beeing able to live properly in society. Using discord, checking emails, playing games. I started with a C64 but got myself an amiga 500 to be able to use these programs
Seeing this makes me feel awful for giving away my A500 Plus when I went to Uni. I loved that machine - had a 600meg HD and the VidiAmiga genlock attached. It did things that my P200 PC could only dream of. As you say... *those lines*...
What I'd like to see is a retro computer making a phone call using Voice over IP. In the mid 90s there was an app that was sold called Internet Phone that let you talk to others across the internet using your 56K modem. It didn't sound great, but you could do it. I'd love to see the Amiga succeed or even more far fetched, a C64 with a SuperCPU. Cheers!
Dude, 25 years ago, i connected my amiga 500 over serial to my pc with internet connection sharing enabled, and used an email program with pop3 and smtp. I also used aweb to browse the web.
You Sir are the Retro-BOSS! This video was mesmerizing I felt like I was part of HISTORY! Just found you tonight - suggested by YT ...watched and subscribed!
I remember being 6 in 1994 and being amazed at the internet on windows 3.1, then easy email access thru hotmail or yahoo when we got win95. Always wanted to get my grandmothers commodore working again, this makes me want another retro pc. You can load anything and probably not worry about any viruses or malware. Too bad there isnt a way to let a tech scammer connect to retro pc, they wouldnt have any idea what to do.
Cool - I remember I connected my Amiga 500 to the internet with a modem back in the day, and was it Mosaic web browser? Anyway, my strongest memory of that is that i deduced that it rendered the whole page in memory as a bitmap, so if the page was very long, I would run out of memory while loading the page. This was close to the end of my Amiga days, so early 90's... hey wait, that means it must have been the A1200... it's all a blur now.
I did this about a decade ago, using a serial link connection to a PC routed through to the modem. Stock 68000 but with GVP 4MB ran Voyager and HDD, IBrowse and Yam worked fine albeit slowly. No reason why I couldn't do it today, might just try it. Nice video btw.
It appears 'modern E-Mail' means an Ethernet connection, SLIP and PSLIP have been around longer... My mate e-mail'd from his A500 & A4000 back in the mid 90's... We were delighted when we got our hands on a 14,400 MODEM. He also used his 500 as a serial terminal to other computers, local and distant.
I had both email and web browsing setup on my amiga 3000t in the early 2000’s. Funny part was my TCP/IP Software was shareware so it would cut off every 30 minutes
This is a brilliant project! Thanks for including me. It was fun to see the emails (especially the replies) rolling in. I used to use YAM on my A1200 for quite some time -- it was quite solid -- and that's where I remember the markdown text formatting codes from. Great work! That was a blast! Do you sell your t-shirts?
Thanks for being involved! How cool that you actually used YAM back in the day! The plipbox is so clever, and adds the necessary to the A500. As for T-Shirts, that was a joke but if I get any more demand I'll have to get some in stock, maybe as a Patreon reward. Thanks again!
as far as i know - the Amiga 500 plus was first released in ´91 and discontinued about a year after.. there were sold Amiga 500 Plus mainboard as an Amiga 500 due to surplus of Rev 8a mainboards.. :)
I never used YAM, but I used to use my hotmail from either it was AWeb or Voyager on my A1200 daily back in the early 2000s when I had my first appartment. Great video
Just discovered your channel. The email 'experiment on an Amiga 500 was absolutely amazing,not to mention very inspiring (you have a new Subscriber!) Now what do you propose to top that? It'll be a difficult act to follow!
That was awesome! I remember wanting an Amiga 500 back in the day, but couldn't afford one. I did have several computers over the years back then, and I really wish I'd held onto them!! I had a TRS-80 Model 1 (bought later, I'm only 46), a CoCo2 with all the goodies, a Model 4 etc etc. I love those old machines -- Now if you could get an old Model 4 to do modern email..... :-P Great job though - loving these vids! I'm a new subscriber & found you via 8-Bit Guy / Apple PIIe collab video :-)
Considering that the protocols used have not changed much in terms of the base layer upon which all modern tweaks work, there is nothing to say that encryption can not be done, it would take a hell of a long time to generate the encryption path but no reason itself that the old 8 bit machines can not do everything that modern computers can do, only very slowly compared to todays machines.
I had an Amiga 500 back in the day, however I never even thought of networking it. I got a booklet (which I think was bright yellow, if anyone else remembers it) from Amiga Format in 1993 or so, which said that internet browsing was possible for Amiga 2000s and upwards but said nothing about the 500. I never used the Internet before '96, on university PCs.
I have some Amiga 1200 guts (including 68060 accelerator) in a tower case somewhere in my shed. But the Amiga scene is so advanced these days, I'm thinking of digging it out, putting it in a new case and adding some mod cons. I remember when Windows 95 came out, and some Amiga fans did adverts headlined "Amiga 84". Amigas were certainly capable of stuff that most PC owners could only dream of at the time. Alas, lacklustre marketing, pumping the Amiga as a gaming machine, doomed it. Someone said that if the Amiga marketing team had got hold of a Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise, they'd have marketed it as Warm Dead Bird.
@@RetroRecipes I currently have Amiga Forever installed on an MS Surface Book 2 15", but the real thing, capable of modern media access and email would be amazing. Old Amiga games didn't necessarily have stunning graphics, but they made up for it with amazing gameplay.
I know I'm late to the game, and I'm ignorant about Amigas, but couldn't you have opened our jpegs in the web browser? That's how I used to view jpegs in Mosaic years ago, before MacOSX. Edit: Almost forgot to add. I found you thanks to 8-Bit guy and the Apple PIIe Challenge. Immediate subscribe! Looking forward to much more retro goodness. :-)
While nowadays a $100 smart phone rips through jpeg like it was nothing. It's fun to try to achieve new things on older machines but the question is, it worth it or is it practical at all? I really didn't mean to detract any of the fun doing it, but at some point one has to decide what's worth and what's not. Just my 2cents. Ok so challenge aside, wouldn't it to a lot easier to simply use a web based email such as gmail (no client) and display everything in a browser window? Hmmm
Unfortunately email websites use encryption the A500 can't handle. Luckily SMTP and POP don't! I'm glad you entered into the fun of figuring out solutions though! 👍🕹️
I remember using YAM back in the day starting with my old A500 with only a Supra Turbo 28, and an ICD Trifecta 500LX. I had the DKB MiniMega Chip and the Super Denise so it had the ECS Chipset. It was a fun program but yeah, forget any HTML emails.
your so chill it's unreal. do me a favour could you say "one more word out of you, and your going back in the cupboard" I think it'd be funny as hell, and I need a new ring tone.
I think it would be cool to see more websites which are made to look nice on the a500 in that browser. Also, apps on the amiga that utilise connection to servers running PHP/MySQL and ftp would be cool because the apps could have loads of modern (like a Fred Fish ISO of say nearly 4GB) icons and graphics and photos optimised for the amiga so that a lot of the data would be client-side and every web designer would know what the ISO contains and it would fit on a 4GB CompactFlash card or DVD.
Nice ideas! I did bookmark a few easy to load sites on my browser, that were mainly text based. But now I have the Vampire card most sites load pretty well!
What with the unexpanded a500 and a3000 and a1200 being standards, it seems to make sense to have websites and apps that use them as a known quantity and therefore a 4GB ISO could be used as part of that. In fact, even an a500 with an a590 containg 2meg RAM is an official commodore known-quanty spec, meaning 3meg or 4meg (for the a500plus) would be a fair amount of RAM in the standard even without the CPU upgraded. For amigas with an FPU upgrade, some graphics (and sound) such as 3D splines could be generated on the amiga itself with minimal data downloaded. I would assume that a PHP website could have something like a rainbow table for hashes referring to a great many preset combinations o graphics and sound to be loaded by the amiga fom the 4GB ISO. So while some downloads are as normal, for other downloads, you just get the hash.
Unfortunately the browsers just can't seem to handle https so http only would have to be part of the standard too. Some of the Amiga sites like Aminet already work fine too. 👍
You know, someone else asked me that and now I can't remember the name but it's a label from a British public domain disks company. I think the company initials were something like NBD. Brings back memories for me too!
@@RetroRecipes 1:51 on your video "I understand that nobody has yet got modern email working on an Amiga 500 so let's see if I can be the first" - I suppose that threw me off. 😉
Ah yes. By modern email I mean just that. Encryption and other obstacles have come about since the 80s/90s. I could have also said "first person to get Wi-Fi email working via the parallel port on an A500" 😉🕹️
I just watched this video as it popped up in UA-cam recommendations- I had no idea you were an actor. Well, good luck over there in Hollywood. I do community theatre from time to time myself, but that's small stuff in comparison. Incidentally, I don't see the Harry Potter role you did on your filmography on imdb. Speaking of imdb, I remember the days of downloading the newest data from the internet to view on my A500 before it became a web thing.
I once wanted to check my email about 20 years ago and didn't have PC at home yet so I connected the A500 to the TV by the mono composite, ran a terminal program on it, connected a null modem cable to a MIPS 3000 Decstation 5000 running Debian Linux then plugged a courier v.everything into that and did a ppp dial up connection and then ssh to a machine I had my email on (text only email). Does that count? Not really the amiga doing the email but it was the only thing that I could connect to the TV for a display.
What speed can you achieve with a Parallel Internet connection? I mean, in order to download files from another Amiga FTP server (for example). This is the second video I see of yours and I find them quite interesting! I have an Amiga 1200 with an Aura sampler plugged into the PCMCIA slot, so I was looking for another way to get internet working on my Amiga 1200.
So....after a lot of faffing around, I now have reliable internet working on my A600 via plipbox. All I need to do now is get YAM working and then I'll be joining you in the retro future past of modern e-mailing! I'll let you know if it works!!
You need to use your local ISP's SMTP server as usually they allow no encryption. This turned out to be key as the A500 can't process modern encryption. For me this is Spectrum aka Time Warner Cable. In the UK it would be Virgin Media or BT etc. Good luck! 👍🕹️
@@RetroRecipes Thanks Christian. I will try both but I have a feeling you have to be subscribed to their service to use one of their e-mail addresses. Hopefully I am wrong. Thanks again. Love the channel!
Oh I've tried but it's impossible. The email client was never finished and the dev wants nothing to do with it any more. You're welcome to prove me wrong though! :)
Hat off to a true nerd, Sir.. I wouldn't have even the patience today for that. Maybe I'm getting a bit old. I still remember how easy it was to connect to the net back in 1994 with my Amiga. SLIP over the modem connection and done. Fire Mosaic and the world was mine.
Nice job!
I remember how thrilled I was in 1991 to get an email reply from Douglas Adams on my A500.
Wow!
I had no idea your channel existed until UA-cam suggested this video to me, and not long after I started watching, I hit the subscribe button. Great work my friend, love seeing people still using their Amigas!
Thank you so much! And thanks to UA-cam I guess 😊👍🕹️ Viva Amiga!
Dear Perifractic, I finally made it, I am sending email from my A500 thanks to your video. Sent you one! Greetings
Dan
Email hasn't been so interesting in well over a decade.
And for all that time Yahoo has been pissing us off with unnecessary fiddling with their interface, when something as simple as this is all we really want, and would still work just fine. I used Pine on a VT220 text terminal for email at university ... still read the inbox contents and composed outgoing messages without any issue, the only problem with it was needing to move to a PC to send/receive attachments. Which it looks like the Amiga can still do... so why overcomplicate things? Telephones still do their job after 120 years, don't they?
But it is usefull
It always amazes me, how over the last 20 years this old machines could be adapted to more modern periphery and such. My trusty old A2000, for instance, has even functioning USB-ports. Using thumbdrives is as easy as on a PC. The main issue for Amigas is the lack of newly developed software, which adapts them to newer standards. And this is even more evident, since this amazing Vampire cards came out.
Incredible isn't it. It almost seems impossible, yet here we are! 👍🕹️
Networking on an A1200 is very simple though (and thank all that's good and wholesome for that).
I like your relaxed style. And the pooches, and the missus.
there's just something about...how "warm" you are when you do this stuff. Nice work getting mail to work on the old MIggy.
I guess I just really love the nostalgia and bringing it into today 👍🕹️❤️
Fantastic! Well done. An Amiga 500 got me through my degree in the early '90s. Wish I still had it!
I got my Amiga 600 in 1992, but had it only for a month or two, than I switched to PC. I don't regret it since repairing PCs became a profession to me, but watching this video I do wish I had it for a bit longer... Thanks for the great content, I also came from the 8bit guy and subscribed immediately. Looking forward for more... Cheers
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
Awesome. Never had an Amiga, but want one so hard.... It's incredible what you do here.
Thank you! 👍🕹️
I've just dug out my a500+ that my parents bought for me and my brothers new for Christmas 1991. Definitely going to give this a go, thankyou 😎😎
Thanks for watching! 🕹 What did you think? Have you got a modern technology working on a vintage computer?
I have tested this without the accelerator and extra RAM. Try it! The accelerator doesn’t ‘enable’ anything, it only affects the speed and image, neither of which enable email. I use the HDMI hi-res because it doesn't flicker like the lo-res. Plain text email doesn't eat RAM either way.
An unaccelerated 512KB machine behaves as shown, just slower which makes for a lonnng video. (E.g. that image takes about 5 minutes to load, but load it does!) The thing that potentially gives the A500 the internet ability is the magical combination of Plipbox s/w, AVR-NET-IO, & the Network Boot Disk configurator, not the Vampire card.
Thanks!
Your friend in retro, Chris aka ԹҽɾíƒɾɑϲԵíϲ
I have yet to get any of my old stuff in a usable state (never mind a modern tech!), in both the hardware side of things, and the "having place to put it once it's working again". Hoping to get a Tapuino built soon, my STfm reassembled and chugging midi out all over the place, my A500+ has seen better days - the latter I need to get up and running soon as I have something special (for me, nobody else will be really bothered) that I'm trying to pull together using good old snail mail.
Been subbed a little while, only just getting through the backlogs of peeps vids as I'm subbed to many peeps, a fair few mentioned in this vid and one that is willing to help with my little "special to me" project.
I enjoyed this vid, and have been enjoying your recent content too. Have a great day Perifractic :)
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
You're welcome. The last bit about the retro peeps being awesome is almost becoming cliché these days, but, it's bloody true, isn't it?
Thanks for eloquently explaining the distinction 👍🎮
i loved playing colonel's bequest, poice and space quest on here
6:15 That wedge shaped case is still a beautyful example of computer design! Loving the A500 !
It is the best-looking computer ever
Agreed! Funny I just wrote the same thing in an article for A-Mag today!
Amiga 500 communicating with a modern desktop PC. How frigging cool is that!
Pretty frigging cool?
That was great fun. And my coco pops got their milk. Good work
Phew! I was worried! You enjoy your bedtime snack now! 🤔😂
So cool 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱🤗😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
My PET got it’s electrons
Ahhhh So chocolatey it even turns the milk brown.
Being born in 1990 means I've never really met anything older then Windows 95, and I'm really not a computerofile. However engineering is my field and I've recently discover this whole retro-tech movement.
It really is mind boggling to me how a 30-something year old computer can still be compatible with anything seemingly as complex as we have these days. It really seems like an astonishing feat!
Congratulations!
SMTP dates back to 1982 so modern email predates the Amiga.
True but that's only half of email.
"Hi, Its Jan Beta" - that cracked me up.
At 2:00 Hi I'm Jan Beta... well no, not really... lol
A few years ago, I found a first edition iMac at a garage sale for $30 (you know; back when Apple thought contemporary computers didn't need fans). I snatched it up immediately, with the express intent to install Linux onto it. The hard drive was better off for it; it was full of late-90's Napster downloads that my girlfriend at the time begged me to back up.
While the entire venture was a complete failure (which, to this day, I'm still building up the courage to fix, since I'm nervous about the prospect of working on a machine connected to a CRT), when installing Linux on a machine like that, you need an Ethernet connection. The machine is using USB 1.0, and while you'll be able to use a router after the fact once Linux is installed, the installation still needs a hard-wired connection.
To bring this all to point, at that time, I was piggy-backing wireless from a neighbor. I didn't have access to an Ethernet connection, let alone one long enough to use for an o/s installation. I had to call in favors just to help me in a venture that would constantly smell like hot plastic. The WiFi to Ethernet device you used was something I wish I had at the time, but for the life of me couldn't find. Everytime I watch this video, I'm marveled at the feat you were able to accomplish, but it still takes me back to this debacle I found myself in.
Well done! I used YAM a lot back in the 90s on my A1200 :) Using Miami as dialer :)
You, sir, are doing a great work.
I still clearly remember my first computer, a Commodore 64c with a cassette deck. Later I upgraded to 5.25'' floppy drive. The machine broke once and I had to send it to a local service shop to have some ICs replaced. I had a "Yunost" (made in SSSR) black&white 25cm TV set as my monitor. The whole setup was functional from 1991 to 1996 and was given away as a gift. Oh, and the machine was bought used for 230 Deutsche Mark. The whole setup was replaced with an Intel 486DX2 66MHz with a color monitor (also used) and the rest is history.
Best regards from Belgrade, Serbia
Sent from my custom built PC running Windows 10
Thank you so much! I always regret moving from Amiga to PC but there was little choice when Commodore went bankrupt... Thanks for sharing! 👍🕹️
You are very welcome.
Yes, those ware the days when computing was so much more personal and involved. It would be truly amazing to have a company like Commodore, or even better, the original Commodore itself around today. However, even if It's long gone, our memories and appreciation are here to stay!
Keep up the good work.
I hope to do so! Thank you for your support. Your friend in retro, Chris aka ԹҽɾíƒɾɑϲԵíϲ
www.patreon.com/Perifractic 😊
Ok. This is absolutely great. My dream would be to live with 80s tech only (and a lifebook s from 2005 for flashes and such) but still beeing able to live properly in society. Using discord, checking emails, playing games. I started with a C64 but got myself an amiga 500 to be able to use these programs
Best video ever. Amiga rulez
Seeing this makes me feel awful for giving away my A500 Plus when I went to Uni. I loved that machine - had a 600meg HD and the VidiAmiga genlock attached. It did things that my P200 PC could only dream of. As you say... *those lines*...
This wasn't my original either. As you did, I gave mine away. Big mistake. Huge. Those lines... 🕹️👍
What I'd like to see is a retro computer making a phone call using Voice over IP. In the mid 90s there was an app that was sold called Internet Phone that let you talk to others across the internet using your 56K modem. It didn't sound great, but you could do it. I'd love to see the Amiga succeed or even more far fetched, a C64 with a SuperCPU. Cheers!
That Donkey Kong joke was so bad it's good. :)
This was an amazing project! Love your channel so much!
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
That was fun to watch. Now I want to see if I can get my amiga 600 to work.
Thank you. Good luck!
I hope you get an urge to do that again someday, would love to see more of that!
It's so f**?? amazing. A500 doing emails! I love it! Great work and thanks so much for that! :-)
You're welcome! Thank you for commenting! 👍🕹️
I created all my early websites on an Amiga (they were awful), used email and irc. Brought back memories.
...my heart was racing too and I am here 3yrs later in Jan 2021
Dude, 25 years ago, i connected my amiga 500 over serial to my pc with internet connection sharing enabled, and used an email program with pop3 and smtp. I also used aweb to browse the web.
That's cool. The point here is for the Amiga to connect to broadband via the parallel port without needing a PC.
Cool stuff. I always enjoy seeing old hardware preforming modern tasks. :D
Oh me too. Incredible isn't it, and it's sort of like our childhoods are still current and valid 😊
love the video it was awesome, great to see our old favourites still going strong.
"You've got MigaMail!" Lol. Fantastic Work!! Congrats!!
I had An Amiga Back in 92. Great old days.
Sent here from the 8 Bit Guy’s recent video. Love what I’ve seen so far. Subscribed and catching up on your videos now. 😊
Thank you! Welcome to the channel! 👍🕹️🍻
I have been using my Amiga A600 for 24 years, great machine. Maybe one day I will get the urge to send an email on it.
It's very therapeutic to do email away from all the other emails of normal life. I use it just for emails of a retro nature!
Yes, I do get that.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this. I have to get one of those accelerator cards for my 500+. Your channel is amazing! 👊🏼
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
When I got my first job, one of the things I bought that year was as Amiga 500. I still have it.
You Sir are the Retro-BOSS! This video was mesmerizing I felt like I was part of HISTORY! Just found you tonight - suggested by YT ...watched and subscribed!
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
I remember being 6 in 1994 and being amazed at the internet on windows 3.1, then easy email access thru hotmail or yahoo when we got win95. Always wanted to get my grandmothers commodore working again, this makes me want another retro pc.
You can load anything and probably not worry about any viruses or malware.
Too bad there isnt a way to let a tech scammer connect to retro pc, they wouldnt have any idea what to do.
kid sitting in front of a computer turning and giving a thumps up while shaking his head and making duck face.
Cool - I remember I connected my Amiga 500 to the internet with a modem back in the day, and was it Mosaic web browser? Anyway, my strongest memory of that is that i deduced that it rendered the whole page in memory as a bitmap, so if the page was very long, I would run out of memory while loading the page.
This was close to the end of my Amiga days, so early 90's... hey wait, that means it must have been the A1200... it's all a blur now.
6:00 that Amiga is running a ridiculously high-res video output!
Yup. That's the Vampire card + Framemeister. See description 👍🕹️
That USB connection happy noise bugs me. Always sounds like "talk to the hand!"
Cool presentation, thank you!
I did this about a decade ago, using a serial link connection to a PC routed through to the modem. Stock 68000 but with GVP 4MB ran Voyager and HDD, IBrowse and Yam worked fine albeit slowly. No reason why I couldn't do it today, might just try it. Nice video btw.
You are the only person I can forgive for saying you hate windows
Amazing!, I want to try that on my amiga now as well! Can't wait for more videos like this.
Johan Nahoj Thanks! Check out my other videos 😁
These videos are great! They certainly make me like older computers even more!
That warms my retro heart. Thank you! 👍🕹️
It appears 'modern E-Mail' means an Ethernet connection, SLIP and PSLIP have been around longer...
My mate e-mail'd from his A500 & A4000 back in the mid 90's...
We were delighted when we got our hands on a 14,400 MODEM.
He also used his 500 as a serial terminal to other computers, local and distant.
Through Wi-Fi via the parallel port?! There's no dial up any more, that's why what I did was different and new...
You made fun of 1987 and it wanted its desk chair back. 😂 Hope you were OK. 😊
I had both email and web browsing setup on my amiga 3000t in the early 2000’s. Funny part was my TCP/IP Software was shareware so it would cut off every 30 minutes
Enough time to check your emails though 😉🕹️
and He scores!!!! The croud goes wild!
This is a brilliant project! Thanks for including me. It was fun to see the emails (especially the replies) rolling in. I used to use YAM on my A1200 for quite some time -- it was quite solid -- and that's where I remember the markdown text formatting codes from. Great work! That was a blast! Do you sell your t-shirts?
Thanks for being involved! How cool that you actually used YAM back in the day! The plipbox is so clever, and adds the necessary to the A500. As for T-Shirts, that was a joke but if I get any more demand I'll have to get some in stock, maybe as a Patreon reward. Thanks again!
Oh, duh me. I heard t-shirts and perked up like a dog seeing a squirrel.
That was so good - well done! beats deleting Bunnings, Amazon and Ebay spam from your inbox. :)
I just got an a500. I should build myself a plipbox and send you an email from another A500, unexpanded one. :P
Brilliant idea! The email is still live... 👍🕹️
as far as i know - the Amiga 500 plus was first released in ´91 and discontinued about a year after.. there were sold Amiga 500 Plus mainboard as an Amiga 500 due to surplus of Rev 8a mainboards.. :)
I never used YAM, but I used to use my hotmail from either it was AWeb or Voyager on my A1200 daily back in the early 2000s when I had my first appartment. Great video
Just discovered your channel. The email 'experiment on an Amiga 500 was absolutely amazing,not to mention very inspiring (you have a new Subscriber!) Now what do you propose to top that? It'll be a difficult act to follow!
I remember the novelty of getting email on my Commodore64 in 1984... it was BBS based but it was the same thing.
That was awesome! I remember wanting an Amiga 500 back in the day, but couldn't afford one. I did have several computers over the years back then, and I really wish I'd held onto them!! I had a TRS-80 Model 1 (bought later, I'm only 46), a CoCo2 with all the goodies, a Model 4 etc etc. I love those old machines -- Now if you could get an old Model 4 to do modern email..... :-P
Great job though - loving these vids! I'm a new subscriber & found you via 8-Bit Guy / Apple PIIe collab video :-)
Thank you for sharing and welcome to the channel! 👍🕹️
Awesome you are a master of the Amiga OS ! It was very interesting :-))))
In1996 I simply tugged a Datatronics 2400c modem into the serial port of my a500, installed the Miami tcp-stack and off i went.
you're the dude, dude! I will try this on my A1k ( if my skill are good enough)
Considering that the protocols used have not changed much in terms of the base layer upon which all modern tweaks work, there is nothing to say that encryption can not be done, it would take a hell of a long time to generate the encryption path but no reason itself that the old 8 bit machines can not do everything that modern computers can do, only very slowly compared to todays machines.
I had an Amiga 500 back in the day, however I never even thought of networking it. I got a booklet (which I think was bright yellow, if anyone else remembers it) from Amiga Format in 1993 or so, which said that internet browsing was possible for Amiga 2000s and upwards but said nothing about the 500. I never used the Internet before '96, on university PCs.
always it is great convining new and old tech, great video.
You got a new subscriber. And the only thing you had to do for that was making an Amiga sending an email. Well done, mate. 👍🏼😊
Easy! 😉
Great work, well done!
This was very interesting to watch. Sharing it on the Maltese Amiga Facebook group. :) Subbed
I have some Amiga 1200 guts (including 68060 accelerator) in a tower case somewhere in my shed. But the Amiga scene is so advanced these days, I'm thinking of digging it out, putting it in a new case and adding some mod cons. I remember when Windows 95 came out, and some Amiga fans did adverts headlined "Amiga 84". Amigas were certainly capable of stuff that most PC owners could only dream of at the time. Alas, lacklustre marketing, pumping the Amiga as a gaming machine, doomed it. Someone said that if the Amiga marketing team had got hold of a Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise, they'd have marketed it as Warm Dead Bird.
Do it!
@@RetroRecipes I currently have Amiga Forever installed on an MS Surface Book 2 15", but the real thing, capable of modern media access and email would be amazing. Old Amiga games didn't necessarily have stunning graphics, but they made up for it with amazing gameplay.
Well done , loved watching:)
Subb'ed. I've watched quite a few of your videos because UA-cam suggested them, and I kinda like them. This one sealed it tho.
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
I know I'm late to the game, and I'm ignorant about Amigas, but couldn't you have opened our jpegs in the web browser? That's how I used to view jpegs in Mosaic years ago, before MacOSX.
Edit: Almost forgot to add. I found you thanks to 8-Bit guy and the Apple PIIe Challenge. Immediate subscribe! Looking forward to much more retro goodness. :-)
I think that's how I ultimately achieved it, after some tinkering. Great to have you here 👍🕹️
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
Jpeg is pretty damn demanding on a 68000
While nowadays a $100 smart phone rips through jpeg like it was nothing.
It's fun to try to achieve new things on older machines but the question is, it worth it or is it practical at all?
I really didn't mean to detract any of the fun doing it, but at some point one has to decide what's worth and what's not. Just my 2cents.
Ok so challenge aside, wouldn't it to a lot easier to simply use a web based email such as gmail (no client) and display everything in a browser window? Hmmm
Unfortunately email websites use encryption the A500 can't handle. Luckily SMTP and POP don't! I'm glad you entered into the fun of figuring out solutions though! 👍🕹️
I remember using YAM back in the day starting with my old A500 with only a Supra Turbo 28, and an ICD Trifecta 500LX. I had the DKB MiniMega Chip and the Super Denise so it had the ECS Chipset. It was a fun program but yeah, forget any HTML emails.
I never used it until this project! Nice! You're one of the pioneers 😉👍🕹️
Yeah don't annoy Gurgle, they might think you're trying to do a DDOS attack.
Then I really would gurgle 😱
It just might work... 🤔
Are you Bob Ross of the retro computing? Your voice is extremely calming, i like it.
It's just a happy little accident 🕹️🎨
Well yes... a little ethernet port here, and pig parallel port over there....just a lovely hodge-podge of things to enjoy email on today... he-he
This was fantastic fun! Congrats on your success
Thanks! 👍🕹️
Amiga was quite ahead of its day.
And still is...
Amazing how you are able to do the imposible with these machines.
Nothing is impossible!
your so chill it's unreal. do me a favour could you say "one more word out of you, and your going back in the cupboard" I think it'd be funny as hell, and I need a new ring tone.
drive.google.com/file/d/1bDbHolnAyyGG5lfmjnRjVDZfJ0E3c1UV/view?usp=drivesdk
@@RetroRecipes Hahahahaha, bless you sir, sir your a gentleman of the highest order.
YAM was the first email program I ever used. very cool
had I known this channel existed I would've sent you an email from my LC475
You still can!
This is wonderful ! I love it ! Thank you for this wonderful video !
Means a lot! You're welcome!
I think it would be cool to see more websites which are made to look nice on the a500 in that browser. Also, apps on the amiga that utilise connection to servers running PHP/MySQL and ftp would be cool because the apps could have loads of modern (like a Fred Fish ISO of say nearly 4GB) icons and graphics and photos optimised for the amiga so that a lot of the data would be client-side and every web designer would know what the ISO contains and it would fit on a 4GB CompactFlash card or DVD.
Nice ideas! I did bookmark a few easy to load sites on my browser, that were mainly text based. But now I have the Vampire card most sites load pretty well!
What with the unexpanded a500 and a3000 and a1200 being standards, it seems to make sense to have websites and apps that use them as a known quantity and therefore a 4GB ISO could be used as part of that. In fact, even an a500 with an a590 containg 2meg RAM is an official commodore known-quanty spec, meaning 3meg or 4meg (for the a500plus) would be a fair amount of RAM in the standard even without the CPU upgraded. For amigas with an FPU upgrade, some graphics (and sound) such as 3D splines could be generated on the amiga itself with minimal data downloaded. I would assume that a PHP website could have something like a rainbow table for hashes referring to a great many preset combinations o graphics and sound to be loaded by the amiga fom the 4GB ISO. So while some downloads are as normal, for other downloads, you just get the hash.
Unfortunately the browsers just can't seem to handle https so http only would have to be part of the standard too. Some of the Amiga sites like Aminet already work fine too. 👍
Here's something: www.irata.online/
such a greek tragedy. incredible hard to install that device. you're a hero
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At 11:15 there is a disk label on the left hand side of your disk storage box that just hit a nostalgia nerve. Can you tell me what it is please?
You know, someone else asked me that and now I can't remember the name but it's a label from a British public domain disks company. I think the company initials were something like NBD. Brings back memories for me too!
I love your videos - the mix of humor and info is great. I really don't think you are the very first person to install YAM on an A500 though...
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words. For the record I haven't said I'm the first person to install YAM on an A500 🤔🕹️
@@RetroRecipes 1:51 on your video "I understand that nobody has yet got modern email working on an Amiga 500 so let's see if I can be the first" - I suppose that threw me off. 😉
Ah yes. By modern email I mean just that. Encryption and other obstacles have come about since the 80s/90s. I could have also said "first person to get Wi-Fi email working via the parallel port on an A500" 😉🕹️
I just watched this video as it popped up in UA-cam recommendations- I had no idea you were an actor. Well, good luck over there in Hollywood. I do community theatre from time to time myself, but that's small stuff in comparison. Incidentally, I don't see the Harry Potter role you did on your filmography on imdb.
Speaking of imdb, I remember the days of downloading the newest data from the internet to view on my A500 before it became a web thing.
Many thanks!
(Potter was very small, just doubling really.)
Good luck with all you do! 👍🕹️
You is a very cool guy !
At 1:59 Hi I'm Jan Beta... no not really... lol
By the way, what's the name of that file manger/extractor he's using at 5:30 ?? thanks
DOpus or Directory Opus! 👍🕹
@@RetroRecipes < Oh now I remember the name, thanks.
I once wanted to check my email about 20 years ago and didn't have PC at home yet so I connected the A500 to the TV by the mono composite, ran a terminal program on it, connected a null modem cable to a MIPS 3000 Decstation 5000 running Debian Linux then plugged a courier v.everything into that and did a ppp dial up connection and then ssh to a machine I had my email on (text only email). Does that count? Not really the amiga doing the email but it was the only thing that I could connect to the TV for a display.
I’m just hoping to hear “you’ve got mail!” When he gets it working.
What speed can you achieve with a Parallel Internet connection? I mean, in order to download files from another Amiga FTP server (for example).
This is the second video I see of yours and I find them quite interesting!
I have an Amiga 1200 with an Aura sampler plugged into the PCMCIA slot, so I was looking for another way to get internet working on my Amiga 1200.
Thanks! It's about 19.2kbps.
New subscriber. Awesome video!! this is way beyond my Amiga technical ability but thoroughly enjoyed watching!
So....after a lot of faffing around, I now have reliable internet working on my A600 via plipbox. All I need to do now is get YAM working and then I'll be joining you in the retro future past of modern e-mailing!
I'll let you know if it works!!
Hope you can help. Do modern email provider settings work in YAM? I tried my Google and yahoo accounts and neither worked. Cheers.
You need to use your local ISP's SMTP server as usually they allow no encryption. This turned out to be key as the A500 can't process modern encryption. For me this is Spectrum aka Time Warner Cable. In the UK it would be Virgin Media or BT etc. Good luck! 👍🕹️
@@RetroRecipes Thanks Christian. I will try both but I have a feeling you have to be subscribed to their service to use one of their e-mail addresses. Hopefully I am wrong. Thanks again. Love the channel!
You should be able to send any email through their SMTP. That's how I'm doing it.
Well if I can send email from my C64, the Amiga should handle it...
Can you? I have researched it heavily and can't find a way today 🤔
Guessing the answer is he connects to a BBS and sends email from there which would be doable on anything with a terminal program.
But also... Cheating 😉🕹️
@@RetroRecipes 64NIC+ cartridge + Contiki Email Client? ftp://cbm8bit.com/operating-systems/Contiki
Oh I've tried but it's impossible. The email client was never finished and the dev wants nothing to do with it any more. You're welcome to prove me wrong though! :)
Great Stuff! What a cool vid, made my day seeing that. Keep it up.
Thanks so much! I hope to 👍🕹️