The hay is looking good, but I'm Raking Double Windrows since there is less of it.
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2020
- Today I am raking our 2nd cutting of hay. I am using our new idea side delivery hay rake.
The hay is looking good so far, but there is quite a bit less than first cut. So I am making 2 passes per windrow, to make them bigger.
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I’m impressed with the friendly, positive, and constructive criticism of your raking. Nice to have so instructive followers.
I’ve loved all your videos, but this series dealing with hay making is both exciting to see you overcome the problems, and soothing to watch the whole process using the vintage equipment. Thanks.
Oh, I agree. We hay bale. I glean so much insight from these vlogs. Love them. Love the narratives. Love the chat. Tons of info.
Evan, as soon as you get all this farming business down pat, you need to write a book about your experience at farming. It would be a best seller,and there you go ,you can buy more antique machinery. Because you like to work on those. You are one of a kind .keep the videos coming, can’t wait for the next one. Gods blessings are great. Love ya.
Man I love that Case tractor such a good and simple machine. When we raked we would do the long rows first then clean up the turn rows. That may or may not work for you but thought I’d leave it here for you to think about. Great video and can’t wait to see the bailer back in action!
Thanks for taking us for a ride. That pond looks clear of alge.
The algae comes when it's dry and goes when it rains. It seems to be a never ending cycle in the summer time.
Evan instead o driving the same direction to make your windrow raking the windrow in then turn around and rake the next windrow over instead of going around the field in the same direction and missing hay this will insure that you get ever bit of hay so the the raking pattern would be first one in second one out and so fourth so basically your odd number pass is in mostly and the even number pass is out mostly and raking using the three point hitch in my opinion is going to be a little harder getting the finer adjustments
Always love the haying shots, especially the drones!
I just got a new drone. Hopefully will have drone shots in the next hay cutting.
Side Delivery Hay Rake. Looks like you are doing a professional job.
Rake 2 (or 3) rows around the outside of the field like you are & then rake the last inside row back toward the outside of your field once. That gives you extra turning room so you can rake the center just like you'd disk or plant a field (going up & back). You don't have to rake it the same way you cut it. That rake is designed to pick up hay from multiple directions. We have one of similar design. & it is also uneven until you crank it down. It's normal & is just the design of them. And it doesn't seem like could turn as tight with that bar hitch as you could with the regular hitch, which tight turning is important.
I live just west of Vincennes IN by about 30 minutes & we had cattle on our family farm until 2017 so me & my family have a lot of experience with hay & hay equipment. If you ever need or want help or advice, message me @ "Waxler Farms" on Facebook(if you have Facebook).
Having full windrows is the key to making good solid heavy bales.
Nice work on the alfalfa Evan. Like the drone views. Not sure about by you but we've been hammered with lots of rain this last week. Take care.
Looks like you're doing pretty good for somebody who is just starting out👍🏻🇺🇸‼️
ya got er done that’s what counts.....good job!
I don't like to be a critic because I totally applaud your efforts and your videos are great but I must point out that you are raking the second windrow over the first windrow in the wrong direction every time.
This leaves a pad of hay at the bottom of every combined windrow that does not get turned. The better way is to turn around on the second pass and roll the hay back in the opposite direction toward the first windrow. To do this, you will need to straddle the first windrow which is no problem with a wide front end. Hey folks, can I get a witness here?
thats how I learned to do it, rake long rows, make the turn, run right along the first one on the way back, then do a lap or two on the end rows to clean along the field edge, bale one end first, then an out side row on long side, then the other end, you can turn as you wish, and not run over too much hay then
Absolutely how I did it growing up as well. Well said and good advice.
Not only is some hay not lifted up, the windrow builds rotational inertia on the second pass and keeps turning, so there are many little rolls pointing past the line of the windrow. The next pass, with the leading edge of the rake now pulling from the flat hay just inside the windrow, can grab those rolls. If the first pass pushed hay to the inside, then the second one pushed hay out against the first row, there would be a natural stop for any inertia. Given you cannot lift the tines above a windrow, you may have to get creative on ways to get space to turn around. The outer row is usually lighter anyway, so consider doing two passes in, then moving that far inside and pushing 2 passes out. That would give you almost 20’ of open. Then do straight rows along your straightest side. Up and back, then repeat. You’ll never have the times reaching out and grabbing the windrow, and you can make a windrow about as wide as the gather header on the baler.
That is what i thought also..i was taught to use the horseshoe method..lol...i made that up but that way you get a well formed windrow...i would tell my raker 2in 1...3in 1...or 1and 1 depending on how heavy the hay is.
BTW this is my 43 rd consecutive yr of haying..all round bales since 86 but still the hay field...im impressed with your baler..it makes a pretty bale of hay...i always liked to keep the baler full of hay..at least have a window half the size of the pickup..better to drop a gear instead of runnin over the field more.Youre doing good if this is your first go at baling hay.
You have a beautiful place my friend. I think it’s awesome that your bringing back the old ways of farming. Well done Hoss.
Evan...you are my favorite UA-cam channel because you have no political or religious content on your channel. Just a plain ole guy trying to teach us how to farm. Thanks
That s really nice job. I really like your videos. 👍👍👍
Nice work buddy! I like that! 👍👌
Man.. it looks like you are switching to a hay balling career!! :)) thanks for sharing your progress and fun video.
Hay season has just taken up so much of my time here lately. I am ready to do something else for a while.
Excellent adjustments. You continue to improve your technique and you will have many good years ahead with that setup. Terrific work! Thanks for the video.🚜🚜🚜
I know you are helping me out a lot keep up the good workI still run the old equipment I just bought a sickle bar a bailar and irate just like yours thank you be safe out there buddy see you next time Oxford NE
You are doing a great job
Who else could almost smell the alfalfa when he held up that big handful?
The cut and color look very good. I enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the great job. God bless the American farmers.
I'm impressed, thanks for sharing your journey.
I enjoy your honest assessments of what worked right and what needs tweaked in the future. Thanks for the updates!
I'm wondering just how much hay you leave in the field. As I remember making double windrows was much different than you. Pick your starting point and go around the field. When you get back to your starting point you turn a 180 and go back. Tire spacing will determine where you need to drive but the side delivery rake should tie the loose hay your raking into the windrow and turn both over about half a turn. This would work whether you go round n round or making windrows straight back n forth in your field. Understand I was doing this in the 60's and farming has changed dramatically since then. Keep up the great vids.
Make hay when sun shines!!!! Sun is shining ☺️🌞🌹
All ya need now is some overalls and a straw hat cuz your turning into a fine farmer! Actually looks fun. Great job.
The hay field looked good and you will get several more bales of hay.
You’re doing an awesome job. So glad your back has gotten much better!🙂
if the expectation is for cutter to perform as new then it needs all worn parts replaced---the longer cutting bars tend to flex more in the middle so everything must be tight
Evan ,i couldn't be happier for you, make sure you got plenty of shear bolts for the baler,plenty of wire,got any bail hooks,wire kinda hard on the hand ,gloves or not,im wishing you the best ,i can almost smell that fresh hay
Im really enjoying watching this series Evan 👍🇺🇸thanks for sharing
Maybe next year is the eternal optimism of the farmer. Good job Evan!
Enjoying your channel! My family did so much of the same things growing up. My father and grandfather a project every weekend.
It is a good thing that you can make some hay. I’m getting my fields in shape to hopefully make hay next year. Good video. Keep it up
The hay is looking good. Seems like every time you do something you are learning something from the experience.
A lot of work on these hot days. We really enjoy your videos, and we wish you both the best.
Looks good Even. It all looks it all went well for you. Next year you’ll have it all sorted out and everything will go smoothly. Awesome buddy keep up the good work
Wow y’all will have plenty of hay to feed your livestock for sure. Keep up great job
Nice job Evan, keep up the good work.
Just a thought, next time you make the rows start in the center of the field and work out. That way you don't have to cross any of the rows. Looks like you did a really good job on cutting even if the cutter wasn't cutting right.
Make two outside windrows, bale that, get it out of the way allowing yourself area to turn without going over wind rows. Then go back in and make straight wind rows on the rest of the field. The correct way to make wind rows with that rake is to make one going one way, turn back and go the opposite way throwing hay onto the first wind row. So all of them end up being double.
I like that draw bar , we can always learn from each other . I enjoy your content!
Great video Evan, glad it’s working for you. Waiting for the baling to see how this time works out 👍👍. Looks good. Fred.
Practice makes perfect!😊👍🏻
Just keep going, it will get better every time...
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that hay rake is working buetifuly now nice job
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Awesome video and thanks for sharing
Evan Your doing great and really enjoy your channel. Sure seems to be a lot of opinions on raking the hay, suppose there's lots of ways to skin a cat.
I knew when I posted the video as double windrows, people would say I did it wrong. My way was the easy or lazy way of doing it. But it worked. And the Hay turns out good in the end.
I like the drone shots Evan. Good job.
Keeping the throat of the baler full will pack a tighter bale.
Nice work
Awesome its looking great brother!!
I agree with Ryan's comment below. When going clockwise on the second half of the double windrow, be sure to "kick" the completed windrow enough so that the rake picks everything up and moves it over. This way, the baler will pick up all the hay.
When my grampa raked his hay field, he would star at one side, but the go down the middle of the field and move over one width on each pass.. Your results may vary.
Great video👍, wouldn't it be more convenient to make e few cirkels and dan go forth and back and lift the rake up at the end? But really nice job👌
One thing I may have missed on your sickle is did you replace the ledger plates in the guard..its been a long time ago since I've used a sickle but I would put new ledger plates in..or new guards...just a thought that may improve your cut..with a short crop its not going to cut as clean...you are doing a good job at any rate.
Isn’t strange how the imagination works. I can smell the Alfala hay as it’s been raked
Anytime I drive by when the farmers are raking hay and I smell that it takes me back 60 years in an instant. It's funny how smells can trigger a memory.
That is some nice looking hay.
It's an old fashioned swath turner !. Hay rake has parallel tines that lift up by a cogged gear on one wheel. It was used to put hay into rows, first one I used was horse drawn ! Swath turner is to turn the hay to let it dry. But your getting virtually the same effect as you are. Anyone agree ?.
Like my grandfather!
It is beautiful grass
Très belle execussion avec une vielle machineries bon vidéo etplaisantarega
The rake is doing a good job of picking up and making windrows, but if you will go opposite ( to the inside, throwing hay too windrow and rolling or adding to it), will to finish it, this picks all the hay up into the windrows, allowing baler to do a cleaner pickup of hay. Keep up the good work! Tractor seat time is a great teacher! LOL 👍
I used to weld tractor hitches one summer back in 1976
good comments on the most common way we have all learned to rake hay into double windrows. One thing you will find, to do a nice job raking hay, you almost need to be an artist. I heard you mention you end up with a triangle in the middle at some point. I always found a field shaped that way interesting when raking. you need to think about 2 steps ahead as to which way you need to turn the hay and how to handle those geographically odd shaped fields. I used to worry about my windrows a lot but found in the end, if it is in a windrow... the baler will get it. I don't worry about the odd shaped field left in the middle. just so it all gets raked... the baler will get it.
Who do you have flying the drone around your homestead? Sure is beautiful! Love watching you working in the hay field!
The drone has vision tracking, so it is basically flying itself. I have to stop and correct it every once and while.
Great way to see how things are working out in the field & additional info to refine methods.
It would be interesting sometime to discuss some of the particulars of the tractor such as horsepower fuel it uses or how fuel efficient those old tractors are .
You can virtual make rows as long as like after making headlands
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You should try to pickup a used swather or haybine, the sickle bars work good if you have $100 to throw at them every time you cut hay.
I was thinking the same. They're a bit more expensive but I love my disc mower!
If iam not mistaken that machine of yours is leaving bits of rows flat, it's not turning them completely over, and your turning too soon on the corners missing bits...
P.S. you may ask some neighboring farmers their opinion of cutting alfalfa also. They may have some good ideas or tricks that may help.
The rake should have a disconnect, so it is not spinning during transport. Generally speaking, always rake in the same direction as you mowed.
The only time you should rake counter clockwise, is the outside section,. With a field that shape,you might consider making a loop instead of trying to make sharp corners.
Nice video. I’d probably look for a good haybine to cut hay with.
$$$ Have to make some Money back first. The sicklebar has been a headache. But I am determined to get to cutting good.
Country View Acres they can be great when they wanna be. If everything isn’t perfect they will throw a fit. If you have real fine grass they don’t like that either.
Yes I think if you put new blades on cycle bar will help a lot but enjoy your videos
You can market the hay (first cutting) as organic mulch/compost material because nothing was sprayed on it? Only last season when there was a problem with establishment. Some places have issues with yard waste as compost because of all the chemical residues so vegetable garden mulch can be hard to find. bol
Keep Well
Why not do triple on outside of field and then straight rows on rest to get rid of the corners?
I thought about trying that, but I would still end up with a triangle of short rows somewhere. I may try it next time.
@@CountryViewAcres I run my rake the same way so that i can lift my rake over the end rows when turning around. I rake my end rows out making enough room to turn and go back and forth. You will end up with short rows on one end, but baling will be much easier when all you have to do is turn on the ends and not try to stay on a row. You'll get it, your learning, and it's shows. Nice work.
Being telling him this for ages especially being a small plot
This is the conundrum. How to rake, how to turn.
To add to the responses below, the more times you move the windrow the more leaves you lose and make the hay that much less in quality.
I have never seen hay raked in this manner before...I guess it works though.
Your sickle mower is probably doing as good of job cutting the alfalfa as it can. Alfalfa has long twisted stems, so it doesn't stand up straight which makes it harder to cut. I don't know that a disc mower or disc bine would have done any better. Just trying to save your mind from trying to figure out what's wrong with the mower when I believe there may not be any issues. Good videos, and good luck.
Personally I would harvest in rows. Watch how a Zamboni driver re-surfaces the ice. That will make life easier for you.
My old man used to go anti clock wise around the whole paddock. Then when he finished in the middle would turn around and go back the other way
As always, so happy to see another video today. Looking forward to a homestead update. How's the garden? Have you had time to make the new, improved pig area? I know you're super busy I am just curious 😁 Great video
Hay Season has taken up my time. We have a lot of things to catch up on. Hopefully this weekend we can make the larger pig area. And maybe do a garden/orchard video. We also need to work with the goats. And lots more that needs done. Hopefully no more hay videos for a while and back to homesteading videos.
@@CountryViewAcres you are doing an amazing job!! I know you are so busy all the time. I'm really impressed 😁 I've been following you for quite a long time. I have watched and rewatched your videos more times than I can remember 😂 Thank you so much for sharing
That NH will eat those windrows with no problems.
That's what I say...id rather have a full baler...bales will be more uniform even though the bales look good.
when you mow make a pass around the outside then mow up nad don ib rows so you don't get closer on the center of the field. Careful with too big if a windrow, you are like me using old gear that plugs easily and breaks.
How's the pigs doing we haven't seen them on the channel since you and your wife move them to the woods.😁
Pigs are doing good and getting bigger. I hope to expand there area this weekend. So hopefully a video on them next week.
That cross drawbar will not let you turn as deep as you need to when you make sharp turns in the center if your not careful you wil break the tongue on the rake. Past experience on my part
think about it. the rake is in the middle and on an angle. when you raise it up, one end will go further than the other.
So I understand a triangle field is tuff to rake but iv raked several an I'd have my butt chewed for turning in the middle of the field, also rake two one way and half the other way all the hay is raked baler will pick up better
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with the cycle mower try going slower when you mow
Good job Evan! Maybe, after your bale it, you'll get some more rain. How's the orchard and garden doing? Ready for an update, when you can. Keep tweaking the equipment. Lol
I lost 2 apple trees in the orchard. But the rest of the orchard is doing good. The garden needs work, hopefully this weekend.
@@CountryViewAcres Sorry about the apple trees. Turn over the mulch to see if it molded underneath. That maybe the issue.
By any chance could you tell me the dimension and angles of the pto guard on your ji case. I have a ji case 350 that is missing the pto guard and was wanting to make and new guard as close as possible to the original.
Rake clockwise and won't leave that little bit of unraked hay
Afterwards, I thought about it. I decided to do that next time.
Looks good to me. 2nd cutting hay is better . It's all Alfa .