In terms of a new Shadow movie, I think the way to go with his identity would be misdirection, a half-truth in a pack of lies and confusion. For example, you _could_ cast Jon Hamm as Lamont Cranston, Tom Hiddleston as Kent Allard, maybe a handful of other named stars as Shadow agents, Margot Lane in the middle of it all being romanced by Lamont and trying to figure out which one the real Shadow is, perhaps Cranston first introduced himself to her as Allard or vice versa, only revealing his 'real' identity when the other comes on the scene just to add to the confusion. Then in the big finish, the Shadow is chased down and captured trying to break into the villain's place. His face appears cracked; the Shadow's distinctive profile, the hawk-like nose, cheeks and glowering brow is apparently a wax-like mask under the hat and scarf. The disguise is stripped away to reveal... the Shadow unmasked, Lamont Cranston, wealthy playboy. But wait! Who's this? Another Shadow? Grab him and take off the mask! Kent Allard? All of a sudden, multiple Shadows are springing up everywhere, leading the goons a merry chase, a diversion out of which the real Shadow arises and goes about his work. The plot is wrapped up and the movie ends with Margot Lane approaching Lamont in private, sly, confident, conspiratorial. "I know a double bluff when I see it. You're the Shadow." He merely smiles and replies "Who knows?" As she leaves, Lamont looks up to the opposite rooftop with a wry smile as against the night sky, he makes out the familiar silhouette of... the SHADOW!
About reprinting the pulps again: Since The Shadow lapses into Public Domain in about 5 years, Will Murray and Anthony Tollin might reach out to a new printing company to put the Sanctum reprints back in print (I really hope they do)
I've only recently got into The Shadow after grabbing a few issues of the 80s DC series in a cheap comics bin! Love that one of my fav youtubers is like the biggest fan and is still doing his podcast on it!
I think the suppressor should be used when he's trying to sneak and is forced to kill. When he decides to just kill his target the gunshot should be heard because it should be like a warning to all other criminals in earshot "you're next" Like a predator making a show of superiority after a kill Also The Shadow wants his victims to be found so letting those who are good know to alert the police is a way to ensure that outcome
This reminds me of obscure late night radio shows that are great but no one knows about. A loss for majority but a treat for the few of us that listen.
Commenting to say that these podcasts are absolutely fantastic! Thanks for doing them and all of the videos about The Shadow. Long live The Shadowcast!
A new Shadowcast so soon after the last one? Hell yeah! Gotta say, while I'm not too far in my current pulp marathon, I have a particular liking towards stories in which The Shadow goes after mafia and other types of 1930s carreer crooks, so Mobsmen on the Spot was right up my alley. What I like about The Shadow agents is that they don't feel the same. It would be easy to just write them as basically the same character nameswapped, but Harry Vincent, Clyde Burke, Cliff Marsland all feel different.
"Mobsmen on the spot" is an great read and also Cliff Marsland's introduction into the Shadow mythos is my favorite one. One other thing Razor, Jericho Druke has also gone undercover as a chef, he did it on "Judge Lawless".
Quite possibly one of the best characters ever created. Thanks Razor, I can no longer look at mainstream comics the same ever again; and nothing of value was lost.
Yeah. When I was thinking of a Shadow TV show, it was about Harry Vincent drawn in and trying to figure out who his new boss is. I'd play it as the shadow has no firm identity and impersonates everyone, both Ccranston and Allard. If I wanted to get cheeky I'd hint the Shadow played Margo Lane for a bit.
When these Shadow pulp stories get reprinted again someday, maybe this year or next year, hopefully they're put in the exact order they were originally published as well as keep the double novel format. Like reprinting both The Living Shadow and Eyes of the Shadow into one book, and so on.
You know, I was actually trying to see if my local Barns and Nobel carried anything, *anything* related to the Shadow. Suffice to say, no luck. eBay it is then. Stay gold.
You mentioned Pale Rider, I think another good Western parallel for The Shadow would be Harmonica as played by the one and only Charles Bronson in Once Upon A Time in the West. From their unique ways of announcing their presence to their victims, assembling those able to help them against evil, even to their similarly poetic ways of talking. "I saw three dusters like yours recently. Inside the dusters were three men. Inside the men were three bullets." God dammit, I gotta watch that movie again.
Great video as always, Razor. Thank you for introducing me to The Shadow. I've been listening to the radio shows, and I look forward to picking up some of the pulps once their price goes down. I've been getting more and more into pulps and comics lately, and I have you to thank. I'm a writer myself and it's really fun looking back at the stories where all the clichés came from, but they're also some pretty good stories on their own regardless of their age. I think one way to look at a potential Shadow movie (or story in general) is to separate Batman and Bruce Wayne into two completely different people. The early "Animated Adventures" from the 90s kinda remind me of this since Bruce was a lot more chill and "green" at that time, so with just a little bit of work you could make Bruce and Batman two completely different entities. I feel like an episode or two may have been centered around that concept (it's been awhile lol), but I feel like that'd be a good way philosophy while writing The Shadow and Lamont Cranston on screen, or in a story in general. You can even keep the Bat Family around, but instead of superheroes, they all work for The Shadow.
A little challenge for everyone: Write in as many words as you want on how you would describe The shadow. I'll start: ''Where there is no light that illuminates the path of justice, a shadow envelopes us all. Within the blackness of crime the ooze feeds of the misery and pain of all that it surveys. Total and complete control of the conscience and souls of its citizens is its entire endeavor of being. The Shadow is himself a shadow; but he does not seek the oblivion of all, only of evil itself'' Looking forward to your new book Razor. Also if you want you can have a go as well if you like. Godspeed!
Caught up! Excellent as always. If I'm honest, I think Adam Driver has the nose and acting chops to pull the Shadow. But I wholeheartedly agree with the idea of keeping the Shadow as a force of nature or elemental entity. Excited for more Shadow action.
Razor, my dude, I just finished writing my first pulp tale, a few weeks ago. In the editing process, as of last night. Thank you for inspiring me with your videos about it, and this solo cast channel. Really appreciate you, man. Really wish I could pick your brain about this stuff, one day. God bless.
I think you might be interested in how the formation of New York's Four Famlies came to be. Seeing as how Gibson somewhat used The Shadow as an allegory against the mafia at that time. If I remember correctly, Luciano was one of ther founding members.
Nipper is pretty loyal towards Cliff and too eager to engage anybody who messes with him, and he ends up paying the price after (unknowingly) doing a great service to the Shadow.
I think he chooses to not use silencers because the report of the double 45 is another element to strike fear in his enemies. I can see your point about the Stealth aspect of it, however, from what I've read (which is far less than you I'm assuming, I'm working my way there lol) he tends to use the twins when he is getting the jump on his foes and when he does it causes fear and confusion and makes them scramble. Or when they get the uper hand on him and he uses them for defense... Love the vid, welcome back. Missed the show, so I went back and I watched the episodes while at the gym.
I figure that, while he mostly moves in the background and dodges through the, ahem, shadows that when it comes time for combat the Shadow just lays it down with the twin autos as he's already in enough command of the storm that it doesn't matter - by the time the cops arrive he's already speeding away in a coupe.
You must've been reading my mind from afar, Razor' -- I was just wondering earlier about when the next episode of this most excellent podcast would get posted, and -- voila! -- here it is! Thanks for keeping up the great work! P.S. -- just received your first book, and am looking forward to diving into it, and to ordering the follow-up.
The shadow is the epitome of the warrior-wizard. I wonder what kind of weapon would the shadow would use if he were active today? A suppressed carbine or pistol?
Probably some high powered pistol. My guess the 1911 were "his thing" because they were the biggest autoloaders at the time and the most modern 1935-ish. Today that would be something in 10mm or something like the big desert eagle or maybe that crazy new cartridge that was all over you tube a few months back.
First of all, where did that Orson Welles clip come from that started the episode? That was classic. Thanks for another terrific episode of the Shadowcast. I hope we will get to see more Shadow novels reprinted, along with whatever new media The Shadow may grace us with (film, streaming series, etc.).
Speaking of Shadow spinoffs ... i got recently into the shadow pulps (thank you Razorfist by the way) and about the same time i tracked down something i read while in high school: a book from The Executioner series. Some of the similarities between the two series are striking so any idea how much The Shadow was an inspiration for that or was it just a case of basic premise / similar outcome ?.
I really enjoyed the first couple of seasons of Boardwalk Empire. It slowly devolved in quality though. You do have to suspend your disbelief because a lot of it is fictionalized compared to the many of the real-world counterparts portrayed on the show. I do remember thinking to myself that it would make for a nice field trip location for The Shadow to mete out justice to the Atlantic City boardwalk.
Hey razor, as someone trying to write his own series of superhero pulps, what advice could you give in actually writing/producing a pulp having a pulp series of your own?
Speaking of The Shadow's garb, most modern depictions of the Shadow have him with a long red scarf, covering the lower portion of his face. Where does this come from? In both the descriptions of the Shadow's attire in prose and the pulp cover art, it's not there (as far as I have seen so far). Is it something added in later pulps or an invention of the radio/comics?
I think it's easier to draw him that way. The novels describe him as hiding his features just with the brim od his hat and the upturned collar and I think artists may find it hard to effectively portrait that.
Hello Shadowcast members I'm a new when it comes to The Shadow read The Shadow 1941 Hitlers Astrologer and wanna read more just curious with Neca doing a 7 inch original superheroes series does anyone think or know how we could get a 7 inch pulp art/Mike Kaluta action figure of The Shadow ? Appreciate any and all replies "Who Knows What Evil Lurks In The Hearts Of Men? The Shadow Knows" HA HA HA HA HA HA
My fancast for the Shadow has always been Michael Wincott as the voice actor. The Shadow should never be shown and someone else should play Lamont Cranston/Kent Allard/George Clarendon.
I think more characters like the Shadow should be embraced. Gray, modern protagonists have deteriorated to near villains, because there is no clear black or white. Also, I find the "most people live in the gray" a tiresome statement. It sounds like the writer has no real moral compass. There is a hint of cowardice too. They would take a stance, even if it is just fiction, and they lack the fortitude to take a hypothetical one.
In terms of a new Shadow movie, I think the way to go with his identity would be misdirection, a half-truth in a pack of lies and confusion. For example, you _could_ cast Jon Hamm as Lamont Cranston, Tom Hiddleston as Kent Allard, maybe a handful of other named stars as Shadow agents, Margot Lane in the middle of it all being romanced by Lamont and trying to figure out which one the real Shadow is, perhaps Cranston first introduced himself to her as Allard or vice versa, only revealing his 'real' identity when the other comes on the scene just to add to the confusion.
Then in the big finish, the Shadow is chased down and captured trying to break into the villain's place. His face appears cracked; the Shadow's distinctive profile, the hawk-like nose, cheeks and glowering brow is apparently a wax-like mask under the hat and scarf. The disguise is stripped away to reveal... the Shadow unmasked, Lamont Cranston, wealthy playboy. But wait! Who's this? Another Shadow? Grab him and take off the mask! Kent Allard? All of a sudden, multiple Shadows are springing up everywhere, leading the goons a merry chase, a diversion out of which the real Shadow arises and goes about his work.
The plot is wrapped up and the movie ends with Margot Lane approaching Lamont in private, sly, confident, conspiratorial. "I know a double bluff when I see it. You're the Shadow." He merely smiles and replies "Who knows?" As she leaves, Lamont looks up to the opposite rooftop with a wry smile as against the night sky, he makes out the familiar silhouette of... the SHADOW!
About reprinting the pulps again: Since The Shadow lapses into Public Domain in about 5 years, Will Murray and Anthony Tollin might reach out to a new printing company to put the Sanctum reprints back in print (I really hope they do)
I've only recently got into The Shadow after grabbing a few issues of the 80s DC series in a cheap comics bin! Love that one of my fav youtubers is like the biggest fan and is still doing his podcast on it!
The Shadow is the best
I think the suppressor should be used when he's trying to sneak and is forced to kill. When he decides to just kill his target the gunshot should be heard because it should be like a warning to all other criminals in earshot "you're next"
Like a predator making a show of superiority after a kill
Also The Shadow wants his victims to be found so letting those who are good know to alert the police is a way to ensure that outcome
This reminds me of obscure late night radio shows that are great but no one knows about. A loss for majority but a treat for the few of us that listen.
A very simple concept
A new Shadowcast video pops up , I watch!
Commenting to say that these podcasts are absolutely fantastic! Thanks for doing them and all of the videos about The Shadow. Long live The Shadowcast!
A new Shadowcast so soon after the last one? Hell yeah!
Gotta say, while I'm not too far in my current pulp marathon, I have a particular liking towards stories in which The Shadow goes after mafia and other types of 1930s carreer crooks, so Mobsmen on the Spot was right up my alley.
What I like about The Shadow agents is that they don't feel the same. It would be easy to just write them as basically the same character nameswapped, but Harry Vincent, Clyde Burke, Cliff Marsland all feel different.
Thanks for posting so quickly after the last, Razor. I always look forward to more of the Knight of Darkness.
"Mobsmen on the spot" is an great read and also Cliff Marsland's introduction into the Shadow mythos is my favorite one. One other thing Razor, Jericho Druke has also gone undercover as a chef, he did it on "Judge Lawless".
Quite possibly one of the best characters ever created. Thanks Razor, I can no longer look at mainstream comics the same ever again; and nothing of value was lost.
I know it would be telling, but do you have any plans in mind for when the shadow enters the public domain, Mister Fist?
Yeah. When I was thinking of a Shadow TV show, it was about Harry Vincent drawn in and trying to figure out who his new boss is. I'd play it as the shadow has no firm identity and impersonates everyone, both Ccranston and Allard. If I wanted to get cheeky I'd hint the Shadow played Margo Lane for a bit.
When these Shadow pulp stories get reprinted again someday, maybe this year or next year, hopefully they're put in the exact order they were originally published as well as keep the double novel format. Like reprinting both The Living Shadow and Eyes of the Shadow into one book, and so on.
You know, I was actually trying to see if my local Barns and Nobel carried anything, *anything* related to the Shadow. Suffice to say, no luck. eBay it is then. Stay gold.
Ebay and amazon and Half price books are your best bets that's where I got all of mine.
You mentioned Pale Rider, I think another good Western parallel for The Shadow would be Harmonica as played by the one and only Charles Bronson in Once Upon A Time in the West. From their unique ways of announcing their presence to their victims, assembling those able to help them against evil, even to their similarly poetic ways of talking.
"I saw three dusters like yours recently. Inside the dusters were three men. Inside the men were three bullets."
God dammit, I gotta watch that movie again.
Great video as always, Razor. Thank you for introducing me to The Shadow. I've been listening to the radio shows, and I look forward to picking up some of the pulps once their price goes down. I've been getting more and more into pulps and comics lately, and I have you to thank. I'm a writer myself and it's really fun looking back at the stories where all the clichés came from, but they're also some pretty good stories on their own regardless of their age.
I think one way to look at a potential Shadow movie (or story in general) is to separate Batman and Bruce Wayne into two completely different people. The early "Animated Adventures" from the 90s kinda remind me of this since Bruce was a lot more chill and "green" at that time, so with just a little bit of work you could make Bruce and Batman two completely different entities. I feel like an episode or two may have been centered around that concept (it's been awhile lol), but I feel like that'd be a good way philosophy while writing The Shadow and Lamont Cranston on screen, or in a story in general. You can even keep the Bat Family around, but instead of superheroes, they all work for The Shadow.
A little challenge for everyone: Write in as many words as you want on how you would describe The shadow. I'll start:
''Where there is no light that illuminates the path of justice, a shadow envelopes us all. Within the blackness of crime the ooze feeds of the misery and pain of all that it surveys. Total and complete control of the conscience and souls of its citizens is its entire endeavor of being. The Shadow is himself a shadow; but he does not seek the oblivion of all, only of evil itself''
Looking forward to your new book Razor. Also if you want you can have a go as well if you like. Godspeed!
Just finished relistening to the previous shadowcasts while doing chores and this pops up, thank you very much mate.
You know it’s gonna be a good day when!
Thanks so much for your work in keeping The Shadow in the light!
What show is that in the beginning? The Shadow Do. Hahah I died
The Shadowcast is awesome. Thanks for doing this!
Caught up! Excellent as always.
If I'm honest, I think Adam Driver has the nose and acting chops to pull the Shadow. But I wholeheartedly agree with the idea of keeping the Shadow as a force of nature or elemental entity.
Excited for more Shadow action.
Casting Tom Hiddlestone as Cranston and Adam Driver as The Shadow would be a great idea
@@Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist Ooo, the sheer deviltry there... I like that, good sir!
Razor, my dude, I just finished writing my first pulp tale, a few weeks ago. In the editing process, as of last night. Thank you for inspiring me with your videos about it, and this solo cast channel.
Really appreciate you, man. Really wish I could pick your brain about this stuff, one day.
God bless.
A Great Shadow Story.
Thanks man.
This was a nice surprise thanks as always Razor
I think you might be interested in how the formation of New York's Four Famlies came to be. Seeing as how Gibson somewhat used The Shadow as an allegory against the mafia at that time. If I remember correctly, Luciano was one of ther founding members.
Nipper is pretty loyal towards Cliff and too eager to engage anybody who messes with him, and he ends up paying the price after (unknowingly) doing a great service to the Shadow.
Love the new opening.
Made my day with this, Razörfist! Thank you!
I think he chooses to not use silencers because the report of the double 45 is another element to strike fear in his enemies. I can see your point about the Stealth aspect of it, however, from what I've read (which is far less than you I'm assuming, I'm working my way there lol) he tends to use the twins when he is getting the jump on his foes and when he does it causes fear and confusion and makes them scramble. Or when they get the uper hand on him and he uses them for defense...
Love the vid, welcome back. Missed the show, so I went back and I watched the episodes while at the gym.
Looking forward to another reading of a shadow book!
Absolutely enjoyed your reading of double z!
Thanks so much for these productions, which I've just discovered. I'm really, really hoping you will cover the DC Comics "Shadow Strikes" series soon!
I figure that, while he mostly moves in the background and dodges through the, ahem, shadows that when it comes time for combat the Shadow just lays it down with the twin autos as he's already in enough command of the storm that it doesn't matter - by the time the cops arrive he's already speeding away in a coupe.
Yeeeeeeessssssss!!!!!
Just got off work, too.
You must've been reading my mind from afar, Razor' -- I was just wondering earlier about when the next episode of this most excellent podcast would get posted, and -- voila! -- here it is! Thanks for keeping up the great work!
P.S. -- just received your first book, and am looking forward to diving into it, and to ordering the follow-up.
nice. More Shadow :)
The shadow is the epitome of the warrior-wizard. I wonder what kind of weapon would the shadow would use if he were active today? A suppressed carbine or pistol?
Probably some high powered pistol. My guess the 1911 were "his thing" because they were the biggest autoloaders at the time and the most modern 1935-ish. Today that would be something in 10mm or something like the big desert eagle or maybe that crazy new cartridge that was all over you tube a few months back.
@@gusty9053 Eh, the deagle is probably to much. Those thing are heavy as fuck and unreliable.
First of all, where did that Orson Welles clip come from that started the episode? That was classic.
Thanks for another terrific episode of the Shadowcast. I hope we will get to see more Shadow novels reprinted, along with whatever new media The Shadow may grace us with (film, streaming series, etc.).
Hope he keeps this content coming its great stuff
I'd like to see a modern movie comparison. The Shadow Vs Darkman Vs V for Vendetta... Liam Neeson had the perfect nose.
Speaking of Shadow spinoffs ... i got recently into the shadow pulps (thank you Razorfist by the way) and about the same time i tracked down something i read while in high school: a book from The Executioner series. Some of the similarities between the two series are striking so any idea how much The Shadow was an inspiration for that or was it just a case of basic premise / similar outcome ?.
I really enjoyed the first couple of seasons of Boardwalk Empire. It slowly devolved in quality though. You do have to suspend your disbelief because a lot of it is fictionalized compared to the many of the real-world counterparts portrayed on the show. I do remember thinking to myself that it would make for a nice field trip location for The Shadow to mete out justice to the Atlantic City boardwalk.
Hey razor, as someone trying to write his own series of superhero pulps, what advice could you give in actually writing/producing a pulp having a pulp series of your own?
Speaking of The Shadow's garb, most modern depictions of the Shadow have him with a long red scarf, covering the lower portion of his face. Where does this come from? In both the descriptions of the Shadow's attire in prose and the pulp cover art, it's not there (as far as I have seen so far). Is it something added in later pulps or an invention of the radio/comics?
I think it's easier to draw him that way. The novels describe him as hiding his features just with the brim od his hat and the upturned collar and I think artists may find it hard to effectively portrait that.
Hello Shadowcast members I'm a new when it comes to The Shadow read The Shadow 1941 Hitlers Astrologer and wanna read more just curious with Neca doing a 7 inch original superheroes series does anyone think or know how we could get a 7 inch pulp art/Mike Kaluta action figure of The Shadow ?
Appreciate any and all replies
"Who Knows What Evil Lurks In The Hearts Of Men? The Shadow Knows"
HA HA HA HA HA HA
🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙😀
My fancast for the Shadow has always been Michael Wincott as the voice actor. The Shadow should never be shown and someone else should play Lamont Cranston/Kent Allard/George Clarendon.
I think more characters like the Shadow should be embraced. Gray, modern protagonists have deteriorated to near villains, because there is no clear black or white.
Also, I find the "most people live in the gray" a tiresome statement. It sounds like the writer has no real moral compass. There is a hint of cowardice too. They would take a stance, even if it is just fiction, and they lack the fortitude to take a hypothetical one.
I wonder when Styxhexenhammer puts out a Spidercast? 🤣😉
I thought it was called Morbsmen :(
Dammit, you stole my joke...