Imp legal points :- 1) CM has no power to direct the Constitutional body to conduct re-exam 2) KPSC expert committee report suggests that re-exam is not necessary 3) there is NO fixed re-exam rules like some 'x'% of questions going wrong would create grounds for re-exam. 4) there was no corruption or cheating or malpractice involved, toughness of paper & emotional games of language can't be a legal ground for re-exam
Expert committee report can also be challenged. Because translation is not human made but of AI. Error is not just of translation but senselessness in sentence formation that actually betrays beautiful language. AI can translate but position of words is important to make meaningfulness. Minute error in engineer plan can collapse a building. So does the question paper
1) Have you ever heard about Public interest? 2) Kpsc has the intelligence for making expert committee report which don't recommend re exam but... Kpsc has no basic sense to set a question paper with no mistakes.. Now this mistakes includes.. Grammatical, translation, confusing statements where both the versions asks different outcomes!?? 3) it's not X% it's about more than half of total questions and in competitive exams every single marks counts what are you talking about?? If you scored good I can understand your pain But..Accept the truth.. They have done mistakes and that has to be corrected only by re-conducting the exam
75k people never petitioned for re-exam.. Thousands of people filed abjections to answer key asking for key revision which is a part of any govt exam/recruitment process. & it is also very important to highlight that in any competitive exam, 99% people fail & only 1% qualify for the next stage.. So numbers & emotions can't be the basis for re-exam.. Paper was tough, so indeed all those who could not do well ask for re-exam..
Discrimination on the basis of language is not acceptable. If 70 questions wrongly printed in English 70 questions correctly printed in Kannada Can you accept this ?
it's better to re notify exam..because even if highcourt permits to conduct reexam..some people are trying to go to Supreme Court..so please renotify the examm..otherwise our exam preperation and time is going to be wasted..
Here’s a structured and systematic transcript for the discussion based on the points raised in your query: Article 315 and KPSC Examination Controversy Background Relevant Provision: Article 315 of the Indian Constitution provides for the establishment of Public Service Commissions (PSC) for the Union and States. The Karnataka Public Service Commission (KPSC) functions under this article, ensuring merit-based selection for state civil services. Timeline of Events: Last exam conducted: Over two years ago. Applications for the current exam submitted in January-February. A resolution was passed by KPSC to hold a fresh examination based on certain objections. Concerns Raised: Allegations of wrong answers printed in question papers. Confusion in bilingual scripts (Kannada and English) for candidates. Mass copying allegations, though unsubstantiated. Over 75,000 objections raised virtually and physically. Key Questions and Issues Chief Minister's Role and Powers: Legal Authority: Is there a constitutional or statutory provision empowering the Chief Minister to order re-examinations? Does the Chief Minister have the authority to direct KPSC in such matters? CM’s Influence: The resolution was reportedly passed by KPSC based on directions from the Chief Minister. R1, Page 7 references this directive. However, clarity on the CM's legal authority remains pending. Re-examination Criteria: Legal and Judicial Precedent: Re-examinations can only be conducted under specific circumstances such as: Malpractices by officials involved in conducting exams. Substantial evidence of systemic errors or mass cheating. Supreme Court rulings suggest that without evidence of malpractices, re-examinations cannot be conducted arbitrarily. Current Case: Absence of malpractices by officials or substantial evidence of mass copying. The petitioner's contention focuses on ambiguities in the question paper rather than procedural malpractices. Students’ Protests: Scale of Protests: Approximately 75,000 objections submitted. Aspirants demand clarity on discrepancies and errors in question papers. Impact: Protests highlight the plight of candidates who prepared for years but face uncertainties due to administrative lapses. Resolution by KPSC: A meeting was held among board members to discuss re-examinations based on the CM's directions. The examination is now proposed to be conducted on 29th december. Arguments by Petitioners Against Re-examinations: Hardship for aspirants who prepared for years. Lack of evidence for procedural malpractices (e.g., mass copying or official misconduct). Arbitrary decisions based on external influence violate autonomy of KPSC under Article 315. Supporting Re-examinations: Errors in question papers created unfair disadvantage for aspirants. Reasonable confusion due to bilingual discrepancies and ambiguous scripts. The integrity of the process necessitates a re-examination to uphold meritocracy. Legal Standpoint Constitutional Autonomy of KPSC: Article 315 grants independence to PSCs in discharging their duties. External influence, including directions from the executive (CM), may violate this autonomy. Supreme Court Precedents: Re-examinations permissible only under specific, exceptional circumstances. The court has held that administrative decisions must align with principles of natural justice and fairness. Accountability: If procedural lapses occurred due to errors in question papers, KPSC must conduct internal inquiries and ensure accountability. Actionable Points Clarify the Legal Basis: Establish whether the Chief Minister’s directions align with constitutional provisions or statutory powers. Highlight relevant sections or acts governing KPSC’s decision-making. Evaluate Procedural Errors: Verify the scale and impact of errors in question papers. Assess whether they justify a re-examination under judicial and administrative guidelines. Maintain Transparency: Publish detailed reports on objections raised and actions taken. Ensure fairness for aspirants while safeguarding the integrity of the selection process. Judicial Review: Petitioners and respondents must present their cases, focusing on: Evidence of procedural lapses. Legal provisions governing KPSC's autonomy and decisions. Conclusion The matter revolves around the autonomy of KPSC, procedural fairness, and the aspirants' rights. The decision on re-examination must balance: Judicial precedents. The scale of administrative errors. The impact on aspirants’ futures. This will ensure that the constitutional mandate of meritocracy and fairness is upheld.
Dec 19th ge blor bench hearing ide..so, case vacate adre and if KPSC preparations are done..den for sure it will conduct prelims on 29th..this is the matter ashte..so, pls don't get diverted ..
Interim stay extended till 11th,People please let the case not distract you and get back to revising…Last time protest antha postpone aaythu ee sala stay vacate masdsudhre KPSC nimge valuable time waste aagatthe….Court case yenaadhre nimge yen u odhodh odhkoli….Dont slow down or stop studying by distracting yourself on this.
@balaramp5607 August 27th aagidhe nodidheera alwa...KPSC ge limitation illa.High Court will not be allowed about laws but will interpret Supreme Court judgements to arrive as clearly there is nowhere mention of re-exam circumstances in any act or constitution but supreme Court judgements only So,interim stay vacate maadsudhmele nimge inna kammi days iratthe ready aagakke.for some few days will you risk revising thinking there might be stay and no conduct of exam?
@@MaheshKumar-lf3hj case is about How can chief minster direct KPSC to conduct re exam ( kpsc is independent and constitutional body). Court and petitioner asking how can CM direct?
VAO separate notification madilla govt idar bagge yake AKSSA intrest torstilla , illi HK candidates ge est anyaya aagide adar bagge swalpa karune torsi
How come 75 thousands students for Reexam of KAS prelims .Freedom park cannot accomdate such huge crowd we attended same most of the people are Karnataka rakshana samithi political pro organisation. Hence It is advised Govt chief minister should not imterfere functioning of KPSC constitutional bodies. Allow them to perform KPSC as UPSC conduct exam at pre defined schedule. 2) It may be noted KAS students has to qualify English and aptitude as well hence all students know basic english . so it is advised KPSC to process with KPSC already conducted prelims examination. Reexam means it is very difficult to attend exam poor students money and efforts.
Stop speaking rubbish. If kannada questions were correct and English questions were faulty, would the English candidates accept it..?? Those who scored well honestly, why would they even fear to rewrite...?
KPSC need to admit they have done mistake of translation error. They should not penalize students to write once again exam. Last time examination bit high standards comparable to UPSC so most of students who did not write exam want REEXAM. it may be noted paper is tough for all it is mater of relatively . So REXAM NOT REQUIRED FOR MAJORITY OF REAL SERIOUS STUDENTS
Madam, it's neither about the difficulty level of the question paper nor the inability to understand the English medium questions for kannada medium students.. It's about non sense translation that too in huge numbers Would you have accepted this question paper if you got it in pure kannada with 57-58 no sense making english questions in which given options from where one should pic the answers also don't make any sense If anyone claims that they scored good marks in prelims then I really don't understand what is the problem in giving this exam again?? Does the knowledge works only one time like OTP???????? I also scored good marks but I still want re exam and I'm a serious aspirant too Understand this .. We are all aiming for a post where we will serve people, for that post we should not enter it by this level of unfairness
A small error in a engineer's plan can collapse a building. So is the question paper. Also the time criteria must be considered as well. A faulty question may demand 2 mins extra for a kannada aspirant. Which again increases pressure for other questions. The English aspirant wouldn't have faced such issues. So unfair if this exam is not re conducted
Unfair for others who did well as well.. As a balanced ground, people could have asked for other remedies like increasing mains ratio.. As typical failed candidates & like gully cricket, asking for 2nd chance is unfair
@@Believer-Believer123This isn't about those failed guys who are demanding reexam. This is much broader issue associated with dignity of our. language. Should a question paper like this be approved? How shameful. If the exam is not re conducted, it is justifying the carelessness of kpsc. Wht if English questions were faulty, would you have not fought against it.
No reexam study for mains what ever studied for mains will be useful. Don't conduct Reexam hurry bery. Next year KPSC can conduct with due translation this year KPSC let it happen without reexamination of prilims
Imp legal points :-
1) CM has no power to direct the Constitutional body to conduct re-exam
2) KPSC expert committee report suggests that re-exam is not necessary
3) there is NO fixed re-exam rules like some 'x'% of questions going wrong would create grounds for re-exam.
4) there was no corruption or cheating or malpractice involved, toughness of paper & emotional games of language can't be a legal ground for re-exam
Expert committee report can also be challenged. Because translation is not human made but of AI. Error is not just of translation but senselessness in sentence formation that actually betrays beautiful language.
AI can translate but position of words is important to make meaningfulness.
Minute error in engineer plan can collapse a building. So does the question paper
1) Have you ever heard about Public interest?
2) Kpsc has the intelligence for making expert committee report which don't recommend re exam but... Kpsc has no basic sense to set a question paper with no mistakes.. Now this mistakes includes.. Grammatical, translation, confusing statements where both the versions asks different outcomes!??
3) it's not X% it's about more than half of total questions and in competitive exams every single marks counts what are you talking about??
If you scored good I can understand your pain But..Accept the truth.. They have done mistakes and that has to be corrected only by re-conducting the exam
75k people never petitioned for re-exam.. Thousands of people filed abjections to answer key asking for key revision which is a part of any govt exam/recruitment process.
& it is also very important to highlight that in any competitive exam, 99% people fail & only 1% qualify for the next stage.. So numbers & emotions can't be the basis for re-exam..
Paper was tough, so indeed all those who could not do well ask for re-exam..
Discrimination on the basis of language is not acceptable.
If 70 questions wrongly printed in English
70 questions correctly printed in Kannada
Can you accept this ?
ವಿದ್ಯಾರ್ಥಿಗಳ ಜೀವನದಲ್ಲಿ ಚಲ್ಲಾಟ..... ಒಟ್ಟಿಗೆ AKSSA... ಇಲ್ಲ ಅಂದಿದ್ರೆ..ನಮ್ಮ ಕಥೆ...?
it's better to re notify exam..because even if highcourt permits to conduct reexam..some people are trying to go to Supreme Court..so please renotify the examm..otherwise our exam preperation and time is going to be wasted..
Here’s a structured and systematic transcript for the discussion based on the points raised in your query:
Article 315 and KPSC Examination Controversy
Background
Relevant Provision:
Article 315 of the Indian Constitution provides for the establishment of Public Service Commissions (PSC) for the Union and States.
The Karnataka Public Service Commission (KPSC) functions under this article, ensuring merit-based selection for state civil services.
Timeline of Events:
Last exam conducted: Over two years ago.
Applications for the current exam submitted in January-February.
A resolution was passed by KPSC to hold a fresh examination based on certain objections.
Concerns Raised:
Allegations of wrong answers printed in question papers.
Confusion in bilingual scripts (Kannada and English) for candidates.
Mass copying allegations, though unsubstantiated.
Over 75,000 objections raised virtually and physically.
Key Questions and Issues
Chief Minister's Role and Powers:
Legal Authority:
Is there a constitutional or statutory provision empowering the Chief Minister to order re-examinations?
Does the Chief Minister have the authority to direct KPSC in such matters?
CM’s Influence:
The resolution was reportedly passed by KPSC based on directions from the Chief Minister.
R1, Page 7 references this directive. However, clarity on the CM's legal authority remains pending.
Re-examination Criteria:
Legal and Judicial Precedent:
Re-examinations can only be conducted under specific circumstances such as:
Malpractices by officials involved in conducting exams.
Substantial evidence of systemic errors or mass cheating.
Supreme Court rulings suggest that without evidence of malpractices, re-examinations cannot be conducted arbitrarily.
Current Case:
Absence of malpractices by officials or substantial evidence of mass copying.
The petitioner's contention focuses on ambiguities in the question paper rather than procedural malpractices.
Students’ Protests:
Scale of Protests:
Approximately 75,000 objections submitted.
Aspirants demand clarity on discrepancies and errors in question papers.
Impact:
Protests highlight the plight of candidates who prepared for years but face uncertainties due to administrative lapses.
Resolution by KPSC:
A meeting was held among board members to discuss re-examinations based on the CM's directions.
The examination is now proposed to be conducted on 29th december.
Arguments by Petitioners
Against Re-examinations:
Hardship for aspirants who prepared for years.
Lack of evidence for procedural malpractices (e.g., mass copying or official misconduct).
Arbitrary decisions based on external influence violate autonomy of KPSC under Article 315.
Supporting Re-examinations:
Errors in question papers created unfair disadvantage for aspirants.
Reasonable confusion due to bilingual discrepancies and ambiguous scripts.
The integrity of the process necessitates a re-examination to uphold meritocracy.
Legal Standpoint
Constitutional Autonomy of KPSC:
Article 315 grants independence to PSCs in discharging their duties.
External influence, including directions from the executive (CM), may violate this autonomy.
Supreme Court Precedents:
Re-examinations permissible only under specific, exceptional circumstances.
The court has held that administrative decisions must align with principles of natural justice and fairness.
Accountability:
If procedural lapses occurred due to errors in question papers, KPSC must conduct internal inquiries and ensure accountability.
Actionable Points
Clarify the Legal Basis:
Establish whether the Chief Minister’s directions align with constitutional provisions or statutory powers.
Highlight relevant sections or acts governing KPSC’s decision-making.
Evaluate Procedural Errors:
Verify the scale and impact of errors in question papers.
Assess whether they justify a re-examination under judicial and administrative guidelines.
Maintain Transparency:
Publish detailed reports on objections raised and actions taken.
Ensure fairness for aspirants while safeguarding the integrity of the selection process.
Judicial Review:
Petitioners and respondents must present their cases, focusing on:
Evidence of procedural lapses.
Legal provisions governing KPSC's autonomy and decisions.
Conclusion
The matter revolves around the autonomy of KPSC, procedural fairness, and the aspirants' rights. The decision on re-examination must balance:
Judicial precedents.
The scale of administrative errors.
The impact on aspirants’ futures.
This will ensure that the constitutional mandate of meritocracy and fairness is upheld.
Thanks
There is no day called 29th february in 2025.
Correct it
Evaluated and corrected.
@@aarkay22corrected
Well summarised👏🏽👏🏽
Article 315 parkar re notification maduva athava notification aguta cm ge re notification madabahudu
Dec 19th ge blor bench hearing ide..so, case vacate adre and if KPSC preparations are done..den for sure it will conduct prelims on 29th..this is the matter ashte..so, pls don't get diverted ..
please renotify the exam..if they conduct re exam in illegal manner ..they challenge it in supreme court..this us going to be big blunder
Interim stay extended till 11th,People please let the case not distract you and get back to revising…Last time protest antha postpone aaythu ee sala stay vacate masdsudhre KPSC nimge valuable time waste aagatthe….Court case yenaadhre nimge yen u odhodh odhkoli….Dont slow down or stop studying by distracting yourself on this.
17 days li kpsc question paper ready maadi college set maadutta
@balaramp5607 August 27th aagidhe nodidheera alwa...KPSC ge limitation illa.High Court will not be allowed about laws but will interpret Supreme Court judgements to arrive as clearly there is nowhere mention of re-exam circumstances in any act or constitution but supreme Court judgements only So,interim stay vacate maadsudhmele nimge inna kammi days iratthe ready aagakke.for some few days will you risk revising thinking there might be stay and no conduct of exam?
@@MaheshKumar-lf3hj aug 27 agiddu modle kpsc ella prepare maadittu one month before.
Iga ready ide na
@@MaheshKumar-lf3hj case is about
How can chief minster direct KPSC to conduct re exam ( kpsc is independent and constitutional body).
Court and petitioner asking how can CM direct?
@@MaheshKumar-lf3hj 💯💯
VAO separate notification madilla govt idar bagge yake AKSSA intrest torstilla , illi HK candidates ge est anyaya aagide adar bagge swalpa karune torsi
Sir KPTCL AE JE Additional list still pending......
Help us sir 🙏🙏🙏
KPTCL en aythu Sir
How come 75 thousands students for Reexam of KAS prelims .Freedom park cannot accomdate such huge crowd we attended same most of the people are Karnataka rakshana samithi political pro organisation. Hence
It is advised Govt chief minister should not imterfere functioning of KPSC constitutional bodies. Allow them to perform KPSC as UPSC conduct exam at pre defined schedule.
2) It may be noted KAS students has to qualify English and aptitude as well hence all students know basic english .
so it is advised KPSC to process with KPSC already conducted prelims examination.
Reexam means it is very difficult to attend exam poor students money and efforts.
Stop speaking rubbish.
If kannada questions were correct and English questions were faulty, would the English candidates accept it..??
Those who scored well honestly, why would they even fear to rewrite...?
Exactly what I thought 💯👏🏻@@dileepkumarv21
ಸರ್,,, ನೀರಾವರಿ ಇಲಾಖೆಯ backlog ಹುದ್ದೆಗಳ ನೇಮಕಾತಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಅನೇಕ ಅವ್ಯವಹಾರ ನಡೆದಿದ್ದು ,,, PUC ಅವರಿಗೆ ತುಂಬಾ ಅನ್ಯಾಯ ಆಗಿದೆ ದಯಮಾಡಿ ಸಹಾಯ ಮಾಡಿ ಸರ್🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
kpsc has to Conduct KAS Prelims exam after implementation of inner reservation
Argument nodtidre, court re exam ge ok anno hage kanistilla...we will come to know about it clearly on 11th
Sir plz nive heli sir...idrallu yenu clearity audio illa sir
We want new notification
That is the only way
@@raghum7938 madtare idu admele
KPSC need to admit they have done mistake of translation error. They should not penalize students to write once again exam. Last time examination bit high standards comparable to UPSC so most of students who did not write exam want REEXAM. it may be noted paper is tough for all it is mater of relatively . So REXAM NOT REQUIRED FOR MAJORITY OF REAL SERIOUS STUDENTS
Madam, it's neither about the difficulty level of the question paper nor the inability to understand the English medium questions for kannada medium students.. It's about non sense translation that too in huge numbers
Would you have accepted this question paper if you got it in pure kannada with 57-58 no sense making english questions in which given options from where one should pic the answers also don't make any sense
If anyone claims that they scored good marks in prelims then I really don't understand what is the problem in giving this exam again??
Does the knowledge works only one time like OTP????????
I also scored good marks but I still want re exam and I'm a serious aspirant too
Understand this .. We are all aiming for a post where we will serve people, for that post we should not enter it by this level of unfairness
Lineman case bagge heli
Re exam should be done to deliver fair justice to every students..
ಸರ್ ಏನಾತು ಕ್ಲಿಯರಾಗಿ ಹೇಳಿ ದಯಮಾಡಿ
😂😂
Judgment kodo judge ge nu innu clearity iralla bere avru en heloke agutte.
11th ge mundudide..
Avru main aagi kelata erodu , CM ge exam nadisoke adhikara yelli kotidare . Kotidre mention maadi antidare .sumn reexam andre henge antidare and also reexam nadadru kuda , adann nadisoke manadandagalu enu anta kelata erodu
I think exam will be conducted in 2025 dec
Let them conduct KAS prelims after implementation of Inner reservation.
Kptcl exam enagatri bro ...
Arthika ante yake re exam madtidivi anno ondu reason heltilla, public interest mele bere lawyer attend madokaagalva brother
I don't understand sirrrr what happened
Stay extended.. Next hearing is on 11th december
🎉@@AishwaryaBhagavantWalikar
@@AishwaryaBhagavantWalikar🎉
High court also dont have power without decision of KAT
(Administrative Tribunals) So this matter must go infront of KAT.
@@prashantkandratti1930 petitioner challenged constitutional and legal jurisdiction of CM and KPSC .
KAT cannot enter on it
Sir police jobge Knock Knee nodtara please heli
Yes its mandatory
Judge is stripping them with facts ! 😅
ಇನ್ನೂ ಎಷ್ಟು ದಿನ ಕಾಯಬೇಕು
ಮತ್ತೆ apply ಮಾಡೋದು ಅಂದ್ರೆ ಕಷ್ಟ ಆಗುತ್ತೆ sir
Lo judge ge kas question paper kodro saku😂
Yak istella harkotidira. He himself will understand wht is wrong😅
😂😂
Re notification madsi why confusion.. After internal reservation..
ಯಾರೋ ಮಾಡ್ಸೋದು 😂😂😂😂AKSAA ದವರ 😅.... ಪಾಪ ಏನೋ ಸ್ಟೂಡೆಂಟ್ ಪರವಾಗಿ ಮಾತಾಡ್ತಿದಾರೆ. ಅಧಿಕಾರ ಇವ್ರ್ ಕೈನಲ್ಲಿ ಇದ್ಯಾ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಮಾಡೋಕೆ
@gnanasiri8025 Nive translation madre istu problem irtirllila.. Compulsory kannada KPSC avrge madbeku
December 29th re exam agatta elva?
Agalla
Hagbeku,
Sir nanu HK kaddaya kannada bardidini but Non hk du bardilla So evaga HK kaddaya kannada result consider madtara non hk ge
Yes madthare
A small error in a engineer's plan can collapse a building.
So is the question paper.
Also the time criteria must be considered as well.
A faulty question may demand 2 mins extra for a kannada aspirant. Which again increases pressure for other questions.
The English aspirant wouldn't have faced such issues.
So unfair if this exam is not re conducted
Unfair for others who did well as well..
As a balanced ground, people could have asked for other remedies like increasing mains ratio..
As typical failed candidates & like gully cricket, asking for 2nd chance is unfair
They have to conduct re exam
@@Believer-Believer123This isn't about those failed guys who are demanding reexam.
This is much broader issue associated with dignity of our. language.
Should a question paper like this be approved? How shameful.
If the exam is not re conducted, it is justifying the carelessness of kpsc.
Wht if English questions were faulty, would you have not fought against it.
@@Believer-Believer123who did well can also do well in re exam .
If they just got marks by luck may loose the place.
Kptcl lineman exam sir
Frnds dont get distracted
Is stay continued or take back heli sir
Continue agide sir 11 ge next hearing ide
ನಿಜ ಸರ್
Hope atleast on December 11th stay gets vacated and exam happens on December 29th 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@BinDYSP Dec 19th bengaluru alli hearing ide
@anilks109 Stay was only from Dharwad Court, I hope there is no stay from Bangalore court
@@BinDYSP yes
Kas aspirants😇😇😇
Sir nim kal biltivi kptcl exam agalebeku sir plz court ogi stay madi sir next agnishamaka notification kuda 10marks mele madtare plz sir stay aki plz
After internal reservation agali
No reexam study for mains what ever studied for mains will be useful. Don't conduct Reexam hurry bery. Next year KPSC can conduct with due translation this year KPSC let it happen without reexamination of prilims
Yaak beda re exam... Re exam aage aagutte wait maadu nodu...mains baritiya ilvo re exam baritiyo nodana.....🔥😠
Sir kptcl exam made madeshi sir🙏🙏🙏
🫰AKSSA🫰