Brilliant for what it is and pack size but I would still be inside a bivvy bag inside the bug net, just to stop any gust of wind and rain that’s gets in. Can never be to sure haha, love the vids Paul don’t you give up now!!
Greetings from very warm and dry Northern California.been around 100F (38C) here recently and no significant rain since Nov. ‘21. I think a rig like this would work here even in the mountains for the occasional light shower and the price was epic. I’m not very good with knots myself but I have a bandanna with all the major knots so I just pretend I’m wiping my brow and glance at the bandanna and people think I’m a knot wizard. Hang in there.
An idea for content if you're up any, do some short 1 minute videos of tieing knots! Do one knot per video, create a mini series of them and people will definitely come to them for reference. I know I would as I'm currently looking for fishing knots!
It's a nice looking setup! I have the two man from paria and love it! gives me just that little extra bit of room, and within 11 ft by 14 ft tarp I have a huge amount of space to play with and get comfortable in even in the most adverse conditions.
How do you find the space in the breeze mesh tent ? I have been considering getting one but being tall I was wondering is my sleeping bag would touch both ends. I think it is 210cm ?
@@cyrilhaessig27 That sounds about right. I only use it in the warmest weather, so I'm usually carrying a lighter bag and gear. I find that I actually slightly sleep on the diagonal, completely unintentional but it seems to be how I end up. Even the bivvy version is great, though I find that one a little small, but I am a side sleeper.
Brilliant tarp Paul had the Rab Silwing and now have the original Integral Designs Silwing (exactly the same but grey) I have the Silshelter by Integral Designs too which is still going strong 5 years on .
Ahh the ol' "Skurka Method". I love using that on my guys. Really liking the tarp setup, bivi + tarp is gonna be my next camp for sure, although this is a good way to avoid the mosquitoes.
As a UL shelter a Bug Bivy and lightweight tarp is a light way to go. I normally am in a Jungle Hammock but this Fall ( cooler weather ) I will switch off at times to a Bug Bivy and tarp. Summer here in Florida the heat index in June , 2022 hit the 111 degree mark ( 43.88C ) . Over on this side of the pond ( America ). The bivy is from Yama Mountain gear and is the "Y" Zip at 7.4 oz.( 209.78g ) 90 inches long ( 228.6 cm ) , 36 inches wide ( 91.44 cm ) and 23 inches high ( 58.42 cm ) . The tarp is from hammock gear and is a 12 x 10 feet at 16.52 ounces.( 468.334g )
Great set up! I always overheat in a tent on hot summer nights, and as I'm immunosuppressed then mossie bites are a real issue for me (infection, antibiotics, pain & misery etc...). That bug bivy is a totally new concept for me but looks fantastic! Just seen there's one on Amazon for about £34, may be worth experimenting!
@@autoscanremaps Heard good things about it! I find the top strength Jungle Formula stuff works very well for me, but it can feel horrible and greasy on the skin.
Try a figure 4 guy line knot Paul. Fully adjustable and quick release, perfect for those guy lines. I might be tempted to find a way to pitch it with a dropped front for more protection but looks good for summer use. Keep doing what you're doing mate!👍
Great finds for the tarp and bug net! I love setting up with knots as it cuts weight and is super flexible. That's a great set up that is UL and "double walled" so that condensation isn't a big deal. One thing I've learned by experience is to put the handle end of your trekking pole up. Little critters love to chew on the ends because of the salt from sweat after a long hot day of hiking. Cheers and have a great time wild camping!
Always a good feeling when you can pick up quality kit for bargain basement prices👍. I had this exact Rab setup a few years ago, used it a few times in varied conditions and decided it was totally style over substance and not for me. That being said and as you noted in this video the bug net shelter is quite a useful little cocoon for warm summer nights out, so I kept that and sold the sil wing on.
High Paul, on this setup i prefer a long string with a loop at the end on the tarp-loop at the entrance-side. So the the pole/trekking-stick is out of the way, when i go in and out. Kindly Fiete
Where I live just now, most ppl sleep in bug nets in the house 😂👍. But seriously, a tarp with a bug net bonded to the sides, and a grounsheet bonded on the bottom could be a great ultra light summer kit. I would even go so far as to forget the groundsheet and bond the net straight onto a sleeping mat. 👍
Should add, my dream thing at the moment is an ozzie style swag roll. I done the classic backpacking at home in the UK, tent, mat etc, but its a pain to lug it about. I like the idea of a roll. sleeping mat with a thermal blanket on top, net sides and a tarp top. Just roll it up and sling it over your shoulder or strap it onto a medium size pack. 👍
+1 to the other comments about some knot tutorial videos. Do you use Prusik knot/loop ever? I pre-rigged some lines with them and they're very useful for quick setup and tensioning.
Interesting idea. I've always liked the idea of tarp camping for being more connected to the environment, but sadly swarms of Scotland's Apex Predators make that a non-starter in the summer without some sort of net.
Ha! Last fall you posted a vid with a solo a few weeks before I went to test mine against some others in the boundary waters in Minnesota. No joke this video is 2 months before I do a thru hike of the superior hiking trail. Set on tarp for weight and bug net if warmer. but debating on using my Hilleberg 5 or Seek Outside DST. It's a grind time goal for the trek not comfort, so probably the Hilleberg but I'm so fond of the DST I can't decide just yet. DRAWN OUT RAMBLING no bug net yet so u pointed me in a great direction.
This is the kind of kit guys should have been issued in Vietnam. Keep the bugs off so you can actually sleep. No overly warm bivy, and keeps the rain off. Perfect for a lot of places where you could sleep using clothes you already had and an insulated poncho or blanket like a swagman roll. Guys today have way WAY better lighter gear than even 20 years ago
Cool setup. But I would still soak it in Permethrin before you go just to be on the ultra-safe side. As others have said, I'd still take a waterproof bivy bag as well JIC.
Thanks for the demo on this, great tarp cover for such a small pack size/weight so a no brainer to carry on any hike. Looking forward to watching you do an overnighter with this Paul 😁
What a bargain, you do know where to look don’t you👌. Great to see you doing this again, said it so many times, your reviews are the best as are your camps… brave man going out with the beaver tho, walks about 20mph😱. Take care pal👍👌
The poles at £20 are a real steal, wow. The net seems nice if a bit cramped, but those funny shape tarps are not for me, seems a one trick ponies. Much rather a standard rectangular tarp. DD 3x3 tarp is roomy and allows a multitude of pitching options: from suspended, to closing sides, to full on tent outer setup. If weight is a concern then DD has superlight versions. Looking forward to hearing how the camp went.
Some nice little finds there. The same kind of setup I'm currently looking for. I'm not sure on trekking poles though. Don't want too expensive but also don't want useless cheap rubbish. Glad to see you getting back out though, definitely been some nice weather for it recently
Now I have two of the YAMA Mountain Gear ( Silpoly ) Bug Bivy's , the "Y" Zip and the 1 Person Bug Shelter. They have 5 different models in total. 1... The Y Zip Bug Bivi. ( Posted on here 1 month ago.) 2...The 1 Person Bug Shelter from YAMA Mountain Gear. . Entry is either from the side or the head. They are 84 ( regular ) or 90 ( long ) inches in length. I have an 84 inch which weighs 9.6 ounces. The silpoly tub's sides angle out making it 84 on the ground and 88 for the interior length. The head section's width is 34 on the ground and 38 on the interior. The tub ( sides ) are 8 inches with a 40 inch head room and 25 inches at the feet. Total of 17.5 square Feet. It packs up at 8 x 5 x 4. The 90 inch one is slightly longer , wider , heavier and the same height.
That looks decent tbh and lower sides and back and good for storm just raise front for space 👌 Indeed versatile as if little pitching space just find spot body sized lol like in my last trip 😅
Figure of four guy line knot will allow adjustments without needing a line lock. As for the tarp, I’d be worried that in high winds it’d live up to it’s name and fly away.
I've been bitten through bug net when I've leaned against the mosi net when asleep. I'd be in danger of the same with that setup. You might consider soaking the net in permethrin to discourage the blood suckers.
The bug tent looks ok but there’s too many tie-out points on that tarp IMHO. Makes it a bit of a faff. I think I prefer a rectangular tarp. Back in the day it was a poncho with a ‘58 pattern doss bag and we thought it were luxury… :)
Hi Paul, this is a great setup. Have you used the tarp in the rain ? I believe it doesn't come seam sealed and was wondering how it behaved in the rain. Many thanks
i have those same poles and they're amazing! I'm trying to put a set up for tarp camping as i think in summer it's a better way of camping. could you recommend a bivvy for less than £100? Thanks Paul!
Hey Paul. Hope you doing alright. Stay strong mate 💪 i have Question about hammock. Have you tried it, i am thinking to get one for kayaking trip . Love to hear your experience. I know there are group op people choosing tents over hammock...
You could whip up a lanshan 2 pro tent which is just a luxury tarp in a quarter of the time of that and have more space cover and nothing more in weight. If your looking for something to do instead of being at the pub or another dreary shopping trip with the wife then it's ok and better watching the TV with her too. But just an excuse to buy gear is that if you have money to waste or burning a hole in your pocket.
Most people look to setup tarps in wooded areas where you have much more options in how to guy your lines! So how to do it it in the open field is an education! Good vid Paul!! x
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Brilliant for what it is and pack size but I would still be inside a bivvy bag inside the bug net, just to stop any gust of wind and rain that’s gets in. Can never be to sure haha, love the vids Paul don’t you give up now!!
Why not just take a tent then?
Greetings from very warm and dry Northern California.been around 100F (38C) here recently and no significant rain since Nov. ‘21. I think a rig like this would work here even in the mountains for the occasional light shower and the price was epic. I’m not very good with knots myself but I have a bandanna with all the major knots so I just pretend I’m wiping my brow and glance at the bandanna and people think I’m a knot wizard. Hang in there.
An idea for content if you're up any, do some short 1 minute videos of tieing knots! Do one knot per video, create a mini series of them and people will definitely come to them for reference. I know I would as I'm currently looking for fishing knots!
Good to see you happy. Do what you like to do. No stress. You happy we happy you happy. God bless you.
Didn't get on with the Rab SilWing, I'll need to give it another shot as it wasn't great conditions when I tried it.
Thought for a minute you were staking out a giant hide..lol. cool tarp!!
It's a nice looking setup! I have the two man from paria and love it! gives me just that little extra bit of room, and within 11 ft by 14 ft tarp I have a huge amount of space to play with and get comfortable in even in the most adverse conditions.
How do you find the space in the breeze mesh tent ? I have been considering getting one but being tall I was wondering is my sleeping bag would touch both ends. I think it is 210cm ?
@@cyrilhaessig27 That sounds about right. I only use it in the warmest weather, so I'm usually carrying a lighter bag and gear. I find that I actually slightly sleep on the diagonal, completely unintentional but it seems to be how I end up. Even the bivvy version is great, though I find that one a little small, but I am a side sleeper.
I like this set up. Perfect for hot Florida summers.
I like that for the very warm weather.
Brilliant tarp Paul had the Rab Silwing and now have the original Integral Designs Silwing (exactly the same but grey) I have the Silshelter by Integral Designs too which is still going strong 5 years on .
Ahh the ol' "Skurka Method". I love using that on my guys. Really liking the tarp setup, bivi + tarp is gonna be my next camp for sure, although this is a good way to avoid the mosquitoes.
Great seeing you out there Paul. Looks great kit that you were using
As a UL shelter a Bug Bivy and lightweight tarp is a light way to go. I normally am in a Jungle Hammock but this Fall ( cooler weather ) I will switch off at times to a Bug Bivy and tarp. Summer here in Florida the heat index in June , 2022 hit the 111 degree mark ( 43.88C ) . Over on this side of the pond ( America ). The bivy is from Yama Mountain gear and is the "Y" Zip at 7.4 oz.( 209.78g ) 90 inches long ( 228.6 cm ) , 36 inches wide ( 91.44 cm ) and 23 inches high ( 58.42 cm ) . The tarp is from hammock gear and is a 12 x 10 feet at 16.52 ounces.( 468.334g )
Great set up! I always overheat in a tent on hot summer nights, and as I'm immunosuppressed then mossie bites are a real issue for me (infection, antibiotics, pain & misery etc...). That bug bivy is a totally new concept for me but looks fantastic! Just seen there's one on Amazon for about £34, may be worth experimenting!
there's so many versions of them too! i love the msr mesh house 1 but i can't find one anywhere. seems perfect for a setup like this.
I'm the same, have you tried Smidge ? Works very well for me 👍
@@autoscanremaps Heard good things about it! I find the top strength Jungle Formula stuff works very well for me, but it can feel horrible and greasy on the skin.
Try a figure 4 guy line knot Paul. Fully adjustable and quick release, perfect for those guy lines.
I might be tempted to find a way to pitch it with a dropped front for more protection but looks good for summer use.
Keep doing what you're doing mate!👍
Great finds for the tarp and bug net! I love setting up with knots as it cuts weight and is super flexible. That's a great set up that is UL and "double walled" so that condensation isn't a big deal. One thing I've learned by experience is to put the handle end of your trekking pole up. Little critters love to chew on the ends because of the salt from sweat after a long hot day of hiking. Cheers and have a great time wild camping!
Always a good feeling when you can pick up quality kit for bargain basement prices👍. I had this exact Rab setup a few years ago, used it a few times in varied conditions and decided it was totally style over substance and not for me. That being said and as you noted in this video the bug net shelter is quite a useful little cocoon for warm summer nights out, so I kept that and sold the sil wing on.
Nice to see you back out Paul.👍✌️👍
Best wishes for tomorrow night. Back in the groove! Look forward to the video.🙂👍
High Paul, on this setup i prefer a long string with a loop at the end on the tarp-loop at the entrance-side. So the the pole/trekking-stick is out of the way, when i go in and out. Kindly Fiete
Where I live just now, most ppl sleep in bug nets in the house 😂👍. But seriously, a tarp with a bug net bonded to the sides, and a grounsheet bonded on the bottom could be a great ultra light summer kit. I would even go so far as to forget the groundsheet and bond the net straight onto a sleeping mat. 👍
Should add, my dream thing at the moment is an ozzie style swag roll. I done the classic backpacking at home in the UK, tent, mat etc, but its a pain to lug it about. I like the idea of a roll. sleeping mat with a thermal blanket on top, net sides and a tarp top. Just roll it up and sling it over your shoulder or strap it onto a medium size pack. 👍
Lovely to see someone who knows their knots. Take care Gill
Hi Paul. Nice to see you out. Bet you could make a awesome kite with that tarp.and cordage. ✌️👍😁
+1 to the other comments about some knot tutorial videos.
Do you use Prusik knot/loop ever? I pre-rigged some lines with them and they're very useful for quick setup and tensioning.
Great summer set up. Would keep the tarp though to keep off the dew.
Good on ya Paul, keep on keeping on.
Interesting idea. I've always liked the idea of tarp camping for being more connected to the environment, but sadly swarms of Scotland's Apex Predators make that a non-starter in the summer without some sort of net.
For that time, effort and pack size, you could pitch a Lanshan 2 pro and be more comfortable
Great looking set up. Like the extra protection from the tarp
Paul have you ever thought of designing your own tent? What you would see applying to the market and affordable ?
Maybe a UK version of a Scarp???
@@toxicteabaging yeah I understand that but he is very knowledgable about camping ect so could influence in products ect
Happy to see you’re taking the plunge to get back out for the night.Plus with Andy being a good lad it’ll help with the whole situation.👍
Really good to see you back pal and sounding like your auld self,,, you make cracking videos, don't worry about out else... 👍
Great video. Thanks Paul.
Looks like you got some great deals Paul!
It's so nice to see you out in your element again!
Keepem comin'!!
Ha! Last fall you posted a vid with a solo a few weeks before I went to test mine against some others in the boundary waters in Minnesota. No joke this video is 2 months before I do a thru hike of the superior hiking trail. Set on tarp for weight and bug net if warmer. but debating on using my Hilleberg 5 or Seek Outside DST. It's a grind time goal for the trek not comfort, so probably the Hilleberg but I'm so fond of the DST I can't decide just yet. DRAWN OUT RAMBLING no bug net yet so u pointed me in a great direction.
Welcome back Paul
Amazing gear! Superb lightweight
This is the kind of kit guys should have been issued in Vietnam. Keep the bugs off so you can actually sleep. No overly warm bivy, and keeps the rain off. Perfect for a lot of places where you could sleep using clothes you already had and an insulated poncho or blanket like a swagman roll. Guys today have way WAY better lighter gear than even 20 years ago
Love it mate, I camp with my hammock in a similar way. Tarp over the top and bug net around the hammock. Keep up the great videos mate
Here's hoping for fair weather for your trip.
Cool setup. But I would still soak it in Permethrin before you go just to be on the ultra-safe side. As others have said, I'd still take a waterproof bivy bag as well JIC.
Best of luck for your camping trip. A bit of rain with that set up would be a laugh 😂 lol.
Thanks for the demo on this, great tarp cover for such a small pack size/weight so a no brainer to carry on any hike. Looking forward to watching you do an overnighter with this Paul 😁
Yup. With a super light sleeping bag, would be great for a day walk in great conditions when you might just decide to stay overnight 👍
@@TheScotsalan ....or suddenly need too 😯
Would love to see a video on the various Knights and how they can be used.
What a bargain, you do know where to look don’t you👌. Great to see you doing this again, said it so many times, your reviews are the best as are your camps… brave man going out with the beaver tho, walks about 20mph😱. Take care pal👍👌
The poles at £20 are a real steal, wow. The net seems nice if a bit cramped, but those funny shape tarps are not for me, seems a one trick ponies. Much rather a standard rectangular tarp. DD 3x3 tarp is roomy and allows a multitude of pitching options: from suspended, to closing sides, to full on tent outer setup. If weight is a concern then DD has superlight versions. Looking forward to hearing how the camp went.
Wow 🤩 that’s an interesting tarp. I like it.
Some nice little finds there. The same kind of setup I'm currently looking for. I'm not sure on trekking poles though. Don't want too expensive but also don't want useless cheap rubbish. Glad to see you getting back out though, definitely been some nice weather for it recently
I like the bug net but I think I'd want a longer tarp. Will be interesting with a bit of wind and rain.
Great deal on those trekking poles!
i just finished setting up my first tarp,,, it was a pain in the ass
That tarp is cute! Looks like a Manta Ray…
Ace vid Paul. Nice touch with the t-shirt too. 👍
Nice! Gotta love an ebay bargain! I have similar BD poles, really enjoyed using them
Now I have two of the YAMA Mountain Gear ( Silpoly ) Bug Bivy's , the "Y" Zip and the 1 Person Bug Shelter. They have 5 different models in total.
1... The Y Zip Bug Bivi. ( Posted on here 1 month ago.)
2...The 1 Person Bug Shelter from YAMA Mountain Gear. . Entry is either from the side or the head. They are 84 ( regular ) or 90 ( long ) inches in length. I have an 84 inch which weighs 9.6 ounces. The silpoly tub's sides angle out making it 84 on the ground and 88 for the interior length. The head section's width is 34 on the ground and 38 on the interior. The tub ( sides ) are 8 inches with a 40 inch head room and 25 inches at the feet. Total of 17.5 square Feet. It packs up at 8 x 5 x 4. The 90 inch one is slightly longer , wider , heavier and the same height.
Would love to see a video just on tying knots 👍🏻
Gonna just have to “wing” it. 😂 Good to have you back mate!
Looks a good lightweight set up. I would use it in sheltered areas. You need to make a vid on tying those knots Paul. ATB.
I'm thinking using the second pole to raise one of the tarp front corners for sitting room.
Interesting to watch.
Great video.
That looks decent tbh and lower sides and back and good for storm just raise front for space 👌
Indeed versatile as if little pitching space just find spot body sized lol like in my last trip 😅
Thanks
Thanks so much for this mate. Jo and I really appreciate your support.
Figure of four guy line knot will allow adjustments without needing a line lock. As for the tarp, I’d be worried that in high winds it’d live up to it’s name and fly away.
Stroke of luck you posted this, gonna be doing a bike pack to scotland soon and need something to keep the beasties off!
I've been bitten through bug net when I've leaned against the mosi net when asleep. I'd be in danger of the same with that setup. You might consider soaking the net in permethrin to discourage the blood suckers.
Seen a similar setup on eBay for £112 with a four season (breathable nylon) bug net. Must admit I'm tempted
The bug tent looks ok but there’s too many tie-out points on that tarp IMHO. Makes it a bit of a faff. I think I prefer a rectangular tarp.
Back in the day it was a poncho with a ‘58 pattern doss bag and we thought it were luxury… :)
Ah, the smell of damp feathers...
Gladiators helmet shape👌😄
Hi Paul, the tarp just takes up a lot of room.
Fantastic watch Paul as usual!!!l 👍
£80 for a Rab set up and 2 poles .. absolute steal class Paul enjoy ya camp marra all the best 👍 🏕😃
Love this and if you have the know how to do these knots etc would be great! But for me a simple tent is enough lol
Have you seen the DD hammock Bivi/hammock? It's a great bit of kit due to it's versatility, I'm really enjoying mine!
Of course, the design is interesting, and it is convenient to install, but as a bushcraft I prefer to build my own shelters, it's more reliable. :)
Hi Paul, this is a great setup. Have you used the tarp in the rain ? I believe it doesn't come seam sealed and was wondering how it behaved in the rain. Many thanks
Excellent video 👍 Really enjoyed watching Paul 😎 I tarp n bivvy most of the year. If you ask why, then you’re unlikely to get it.
Great price Paul.
Hi Paul,
What is the best 4 season 1 man tent/tarp (etc) you have used?
Regards
Thanks for the question. I replied via a shorts video
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Get out in the great outdoors Mr Messner it’s what you do best 👍👊
When it comes to mosquito's bigger area the better. Any skin touches the mesh the bastards will get you through it. Cheers Steve from Aus.
Great stuff mate
I like it... In ok weather ... But thinking maybe a lanshan is easier ... Your thoughts Paul?
Hi Paul, you have a lot of experience with bivy camping. Which bivies are the best for keeping out rain and keeping your sleeping bag dry? Thanks.
i have those same poles and they're amazing! I'm trying to put a set up for tarp camping as i think in summer it's a better way of camping. could you recommend a bivvy for less than £100? Thanks Paul!
Nice set up and you can just about fit it in your back pocket! Be interesting to see how the British weather treats you when you use it in anger
Hey Paul. Hope you doing alright. Stay strong mate 💪 i have Question about hammock. Have you tried it, i am thinking to get one for kayaking trip . Love to hear your experience. I know there are group op people choosing tents over hammock...
You could whip up a lanshan 2 pro tent which is just a luxury tarp in a quarter of the time of that and have more space cover and nothing more in weight. If your looking for something to do instead of being at the pub or another dreary shopping trip with the wife then it's ok and better watching the TV with her too. But just an excuse to buy gear is that if you have money to waste or burning a hole in your pocket.
Great to see you excited for getting back out there.
Starting to realise how versatile walking poles are
Four reels for a fiver! Thats an insane deal mate👏
Bloody windy to start 😂
Just seen the dehydration short you made. lmao
RAB or DD? Cheers for the video
Looks interesting but the unusual shape seem to limit much the ways one could set it up.
Seems like a heck of a faff
What if the rain and wind blows forwards into it?!..
Most people look to setup tarps in wooded areas where you have much more options in how to guy your lines! So how to do it it in the open field is an education! Good vid Paul!! x
Nice bargains. I never manage to find em lol