thanks for the review guys, as always, it's a pleasure. I wasn't expecting the range to be so low! Looking forward to your Sur Ron X review. I also didnt see any links for the accessories in the description. I got the super moto kit for my Sur Ron X, looking to upgrade a few other things as well. thanks again. keep up the good work.
This video is really well made I was not expecting it because if how many views and subscribers. U guys are a really underrated UA-cam channel. Thanks so much for this info it really helped on my decision making for which bike I'm gonna get. I was leaning toward the segway until I saw this video and know I'm more toward the sur on after this video u shared thank you so much I liked and subscribed
please do all of yourselves a favor and go to luna cycles and buy the actual sur ron. You get an extra 15mph top speed(43-47mph), 2x the torque, double the range, and better front forks.
@@Makinja depends on the state you live in, for most it's not considered an ebike since it's over 1hp and 750w and other states have their own definition i've had no problems so far in NY with cops keeping it in ep mode and pedaling when around them since i have a pedal kit though www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/state-electric-bicycle-laws-a-legislative-primer
Thank you so much for making this video, it helped me when wanting to buy this bike. The video was very honest and got even more helpful when you guys explained the flaws. Again, thank you so much and keep up the good videos.
@@snowvalleyrat thanks, the lithium ion batteries only last about two through four years that's a pretty good. And the downside if they make something newer it's old technology like cell phones in a way. Do you know of any motoped 49cc through 125CC+ gasoline powered with pedals to propel it that way it's a bicycle?
I would honestly get a gas dirt bike if you want an actual dirt bike. The x260 is more like a mountain bike from what people have said. Pretty sure I'm too late, but a dude can try.
So it says the bike is too small but in the video it is right up next to a super73 and they look almost exactly the same size. Is the super73 to small as well or is it just compared to the surron they are both too small
Thanks for this video. Really great information. I also have an X160 and we've been experiencing the limited range. Really not happy about that. Segway advertises 40 miles and we probably get half of that. Have a tech support call in to Segway and they keep promising a "call back", but it hasn't arrived yet. Any advice?
Umm if u still have return time return and get a suron idk but I’m sticking to the x160 since it’s cheaper but it does suck that they advertise double the range
It will in EP mode. Sports mode half that rage. Get a bigger battery try a 60v and a better controller you will get 46.6mph and twice the range. Or go bigger 72V 42AH battery
yo can anyone send a link to me of one available for global travel or even in stock in Australia pls just send me a link i really want this bike and the links he has available wont work for me.
Does this E-bike require a License to ride it, and can it be driven on the Street, or is it only used as a dirt bike. I looked it up online and I can't find anywhere that it shows how long the bike last on a single charge and how long does it take to charge the battery. Thanks Great Video though.
Depends what state you live in. Check your dmv website for ebike info. This guy is easily legal in most places, especially if you add a pedal kit and keep it below 28mph. Battery takes 3-5 hours to charge.
I know the wheels, battery, bars and controller are different between the x160 and x260 but my question is, is the motor the same? If the motor is the same then it is a better deal. I say this because a lot of people buy a sur ron and then change the wheels, fork, rear shock, battery and controller so if you were going to do all these upgrades and the 160 frame and motor being the same it would be cheaper to buy.
@@brodienelson380 70% sure is not good enough, 100% sure would be better. The X160 seems to be like 5% to 10% smaller, which is a tiny difference. BUT it says that the x160 has a 175-pound weight limit, and I wonder how accurate that is. Could someone 200 or 220 pounds still ride it, but it would just drain the battery faster? The X260 has a 220-pound weight limit.
I have a x260 and my friend has a x160 they are faster then advertised we weigh 110lbs and 90lbs. When im on the 260 I reach 82hm around 52mph and on the 160 we get around 60khm which is around 37mph
Get a bigger battery you can fit 72V 42AH battery and put a BAC 4000 controller on it you will get 80mph and much more range. The 160 DC motor can handle it. But if your nervous rider you can get the 60v 42ah battery and Sur ron x 260 controller and you will get more range and 49.6mph top speed for the 160
We’ve been able to fit it in a compact SUV trunk with seats down and the front wheel still attached. Also a Sur Ron fits in the back of a full SUV with seats down and front wheel still attached
Yes, of course. If you plan on mainly driving on the street though you can change the tires to street tires. You can also buy a complete set of street wheels. Luna Cycles sell it for $350
You have to add a pedal kit, a headlight/brake light, and keep it locked at 28mph top speed. Then, yes it’s legal in California. Otherwise you’ll get tickets or even have the bike confiscated. Be careful and keep it in the bike lane. Check out the class 3 ebike laws on the CA dmv website :-)
@@Ali-lt3qx yea like if we can upgrade it it can be street legal?🤔 i dont have a licnece so can jt work if i mod it with street legal lights and stuff ?
Well you cant ride it on the road but since it is electric you shouldn't have problem since people aren't gonna call the cops. Stay away from police cars tho
@@matthewdias393 scam I think there just ads trying to take people’s money or they’ll ship you Some non working model. If you are looking for electric bikes then go look at this company called juiced bikes I’m about to buy one there like $2000 but there worth the money
They really need to ban these. They are showing up at our parks with 16 year olds on them, and they race silently with modified ones hitting 50+mph and unlike with actual dirtbikes you have no clue they are about to run you over until its too late. They aren't street legal, and yet you see them flying down sidewalks and bicycle lanes as well.
But if they ban these then only criminals will have access to them. You know, life happens. You can't stop technology. Cyclists go fast too, especially downhill, and they are quite silent.
@@RantTherapist We stop as many motorcycles as we can riding without license, insurance, registration, or street legality, no reason we can't have these confiscated by police and the funds for selling them going towards public schools and other projects, Rant The Rapist.
this bike doesnt really make sense. i mean it looks amazing like a dirt bike, but has a relatively low speed and range more like the Super 73. the top wattage is impressive, but this bike is crazy for people coming from an ebike pedaling background, and probably underwhelming to true motorcyclists or dirt bikers.
this 1 is lower speed than my 1500w hub motor and that only cost me $700 for the hub motor and battery. if you're going to spend money on this type of "ebike/e dirt bike" get a sur ron, same price as the segway and higher top speed
The Segway x260 needs to be $2750-4000 and this the x160 $1500-2500
Agreed! The x260 is especially overpriced. Makes the Sur Ron a much better deal
@Raiden Coleman I tried it, man you have a taste of manly looking woman
@Raiden Coleman You're in many of comments a CON MAN SCAMMER and going to meet BIG BUBBA IN THE PIN!!!
I just bought the x160 for $3000
@@richardtavarez2614 nice still overpriced but nice of u got the cash to spend
thanks for the review guys, as always, it's a pleasure. I wasn't expecting the range to be so low! Looking forward to your Sur Ron X review. I also didnt see any links for the accessories in the description. I got the super moto kit for my Sur Ron X, looking to upgrade a few other things as well. thanks again. keep up the good work.
This video is really well made I was not expecting it because if how many views and subscribers. U guys are a really underrated UA-cam channel. Thanks so much for this info it really helped on my decision making for which bike I'm gonna get. I was leaning toward the segway until I saw this video and know I'm more toward the sur on after this video u shared thank you so much I liked and subscribed
This bike is my reason to keep going
please do all of yourselves a favor and go to luna cycles and buy the actual sur ron. You get an extra 15mph top speed(43-47mph), 2x the torque, double the range, and better front forks.
Sounds good to me- this maybe the one I will get for Spanish trails, as long as I Google earth the distance first.
and the option to add an installed pedal kit if you want to take your chances trying to get it to pass as an ebike when going by a cop
@@bHBullet That was going to be my question. Can it pass as an ebike
@@Makinja depends on the state you live in, for most it's not considered an ebike since it's over 1hp and 750w and other states have their own definition
i've had no problems so far in NY with cops keeping it in ep mode and pedaling when around them since i have a pedal kit though
www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/state-electric-bicycle-laws-a-legislative-primer
@@bHBullet Cool Thanks. Be safe.
Thank you so much for making this video, it helped me when wanting to buy this bike. The video was very honest and got even more helpful when you guys explained the flaws. Again, thank you so much and keep up the good videos.
Don't buy it's, u could get a surron for 4000
Love the honest review. Answered all my questions.
Good job on explaining the flaws I think this is best for honest reviews 👍
Great video! Enjoyed it thoroughly! Keep up the good content!
Don't know if this has been said, you need to be the new voice of "How it's Made" haha change my mind.
Let's make it happen! 🎙
@@TechWeWant do you know of any of these e dirt bikes that have pedals on them?
OMG YESSS
@@zedee2000 they sell a pedal kit for sur ron bikes, I Imagine it might fit on the segway too.
@@snowvalleyrat thanks, the lithium ion batteries only last about two through four years that's a pretty good. And the downside if they make something newer it's old technology like cell phones in a way. Do you know of any motoped 49cc through 125CC+ gasoline powered with pedals to propel it that way it's a bicycle?
This look cool I want one
I want it
Excellent review. Straight the point.
Is the Bluetooth app ?Segway ninebot? And can you pair if you remove break sensor ?
I'm only 14 years old and looking into buying a dirt bike. Would this be a good starting bike? or should I save up extra and buy the X260?
Got the same question yo
I would honestly get a gas dirt bike if you want an actual dirt bike. The x260 is more like a mountain bike from what people have said. Pretty sure I'm too late, but a dude can try.
gas is expensive now so.. depends how deep your wallet is
So it says the bike is too small but in the video it is right up next to a super73 and they look almost exactly the same size. Is the super73 to small as well or is it just compared to the surron they are both too small
Is this bike legal in Florida like the super 73 is?
Yes
Thanks for this video. Really great information. I also have an X160 and we've been experiencing the limited range. Really not happy about that. Segway advertises 40 miles and we probably get half of that. Have a tech support call in to Segway and they keep promising a "call back", but it hasn't arrived yet. Any advice?
Call luna cycles in California. Great folks there who will gladly answer any questions regarding these bikes.
Umm if u still have return time return and get a suron idk but I’m sticking to the x160 since it’s cheaper but it does suck that they advertise double the range
In EP mode it does the ad range
It will in EP mode. Sports mode half that rage. Get a bigger battery try a 60v and a better controller you will get 46.6mph and twice the range. Or go bigger 72V 42AH battery
Is the x160 and the x260 and surron x have the same frame size ?
I have a Sur Ron and it does not have Blue Tooth.
Great video guys.
Curious if this can be transported on a Thule T2 XT Pro bike rack (eg. with the battery removed to reduce the weight) ?
Where do you guys film your tests?
East Coast, different locations in Mass and NH
I'm 1m83 esque it's not too big for this machine I would really like to buy it myself but I'm afraid it's too small ?
Can u charge it or no (sorry if its a dumb question but im really confused
Where can you get a replacement battery for it? I didn't see one on their website..
Luna cycles
why does it say sur ron on some spots? is that not a totally different brand
yo can anyone send a link to me of one available for global travel or even in stock in Australia pls just send me a link i really want this bike and the links he has available wont work for me.
And clean and shovel more driveways
Could I get a surron 60 volt battery? Would that work
Does this E-bike require a License to ride it, and can it be driven on the Street, or is it only used as a dirt bike. I looked it up online and I can't find anywhere that it shows how long the bike last on a single charge and how long does it take to charge the battery. Thanks Great Video though.
Depends what state you live in. Check your dmv website for ebike info. This guy is easily legal in most places, especially if you add a pedal kit and keep it below 28mph. Battery takes 3-5 hours to charge.
Can u compare all the bikes like the sur on and segway and say which one u like better
We're working on comparisons, as well as a detailed review of the Sur Ron X! Stay tuned 👀
I can tell by the dislikes how many people own Super73's! 🤣
The Ariel grizzly will smoke the super 73
Not when it comes to looks!
I'm looking for transportation like this under 3,000. I live in a hilly area and my license is revoked. Any suggestions?
How far is your commute?
45 minutes
I'm 5'6" is that good for people short like me?
Yes it’s perfect for someone your size
It looks tiny
Waaaaayy too small. I hate that
@@Kumari_44 is it good for a 160cm female
Why is the seat so low on a electric dirtbike?
Love the sound of that thing! What's the promo code?
Bestbuy always has them on sale
What do you think of this compared to the Sur Ron light bee s?
Same bike, all components can be changed
you can also buy a surron battery and put it in the x160
I know the wheels, battery, bars and controller are different between the x160 and x260 but my question is, is the motor the same? If the motor is the same then it is a better deal. I say this because a lot of people buy a sur ron and then change the wheels, fork, rear shock, battery and controller so if you were going to do all these upgrades and the 160 frame and motor being the same it would be cheaper to buy.
The x260 has a bigger motor and has a 15 mph max speed difference and faster 0 to 60
he didn't look like he "was fine" after that crash.. he's rolling around in pain..
where can i find the upgraded shocks
yo, when did Segway get this cool?
How much for a 2nd battery ?
I’m gonna need to mow a lot more lawns
is the 160 smaller than the 260?
My question EXACTLY. Does anyone know if the 160 frame is smaller than the 260? Thanks in advance.
@@MARKLINMAN1 dont know if its too late, but I'm 70% sure they are both the same size :)
@@MARKLINMAN1 dont know if its too late, but I'm 70% sure they are both the same size
@@brodienelson380 70% sure is not good enough, 100% sure would be better. The X160 seems to be like 5% to 10% smaller, which is a tiny difference. BUT it says that the x160 has a 175-pound weight limit, and I wonder how accurate that is. Could someone 200 or 220 pounds still ride it, but it would just drain the battery faster? The X260 has a 220-pound weight limit.
Honestly Im probably gonna go with the Talaria sting
Looks good!
Do we need register this ?
I have a x260 and my friend has a x160 they are faster then advertised we weigh 110lbs and 90lbs. When im on the 260 I reach 82hm around 52mph
and on the 160 we get around 60khm which is around 37mph
Damn bro. 90 pounds? Be careful
Get a bigger battery you can fit 72V 42AH battery and put a BAC 4000 controller on it you will get 80mph and much more range. The 160 DC motor can handle it.
But if your nervous rider you can get the 60v 42ah battery and Sur ron x 260 controller and you will get more range and 49.6mph top speed for the 160
Does this fit in the car trunk if the front tire is detached?
We’ve been able to fit it in a compact SUV trunk with seats down and the front wheel still attached. Also a Sur Ron fits in the back of a full SUV with seats down and front wheel still attached
@@TechWeWant Thank you for the info. 👍
انه غير متوفر هل يوجد في الدول العربية ؟
Why can’t I buy on Amazon any more
Hi man loved the review and I want to get my hands on one but the link for Amazon is not working can u send to me again thx
Price?
can u get these in the uk
Cool looking bike but imo just dosen't provide enough range and charging takes to long ... might be for someone just not me
Can it also go on road?
Yes, of course. If you plan on mainly driving on the street though you can change the tires to street tires. You can also buy a complete set of street wheels. Luna Cycles sell it for $350
U can now order a custom battery 🔋 with 40ah battery or more .
Dang looking at this I thought you could have a 2 hour ride of straight shredding but 45 minutes nah I’ll stick to mtb
Is it street legal
👍
Is this street legal in California?
You have to add a pedal kit, a headlight/brake light, and keep it locked at 28mph top speed. Then, yes it’s legal in California. Otherwise you’ll get tickets or even have the bike confiscated. Be careful and keep it in the bike lane. Check out the class 3 ebike laws on the CA dmv website :-)
Very good ebike....
odar kesa kare
Same I'm gonna save up
What is the app called?
Segway-Ninebot in the App Store
@@TechWeWant thanks
Do you need a license for that?
Nope!
@@TechWeWant what??? Hahah why do u even need a motorcycle anymore😂
@ For some people, they want more power and they love gas bikes. Just look at some of the comments on this video from the haters
Its cool. But why are this and the surron so damn tiny? They look like bikes made for 14 year olds
What age is this for?
All ages
And when something breaks, good luck fixing it yourself...
Bro this week it was only 60 dollors
Is this street legal? 🤔 please yes
No because it doesn’t have headlight, tail light or blinkers
@@TechWeWant thanks
Ima still do it
Bye if u upgrade it to be street legal do u have to get lisence
@@Ali-lt3qx yea like if we can upgrade it it can be street legal?🤔 i dont have a licnece so can jt work if i mod it with street legal lights and stuff ?
Got mine for 46 dollars with a flash sale, no tricks. It’s the real deal. Love it!
Cap 🧢
@@gabenavarro483 nah, whatever think what you want 😂.
@@Rip_Risu where did you get it then?
Aye bro I did the same, I think we got scammed💀 let me know if you get the bike or not
@@greeneyez0991 yeah we did
me who got this exactly same bike for 80 and in 260
A bike milega kaise
It’s that Illegal or no
What do you mean by that? On road ? Its not, because it has no headlights,blinker, etc. But you can buy the Sur Ron with all included
Well you cant ride it on the road but since it is electric you shouldn't have problem since people aren't gonna call the cops. Stay away from police cars tho
This only cost $123 to buy now
They used bad battery cells not Samsung
bro i wanna buy this bike can u please give me your bike i can paid 2200$ and also shipment money please ship to me
POV you can now buy it for $70
yeah is that real or a scam?
@@matthewdias393 scam I think there just ads trying to take people’s money or they’ll ship you Some non working model. If you are looking for electric bikes then go look at this company called juiced bikes I’m about to buy one there like $2000 but there worth the money
@@thatonemustangkid230 yessir ur right
I would just buy extra batteries
This is all right but handle is like cycle
Myron na nito sa pinas..
If you’re doing a giveaway can I have it please
I got 1 for $130 at the actual store
No you didn’t.
They really need to ban these. They are showing up at our parks with 16 year olds on them, and they race silently with modified ones hitting 50+mph and unlike with actual dirtbikes you have no clue they are about to run you over until its too late. They aren't street legal, and yet you see them flying down sidewalks and bicycle lanes as well.
But if they ban these then only criminals will have access to them.
You know, life happens. You can't stop technology. Cyclists go fast too, especially downhill, and they are quite silent.
@@RantTherapist We stop as many motorcycles as we can riding without license, insurance, registration, or street legality, no reason we can't have these confiscated by police and the funds for selling them going towards public schools and other projects, Rant The Rapist.
Lmao. That’s ridiculous if you think ppl are gonna give up 3k bikes they just bought.
Hell no let them have fun.
Y the F tik tok said is 130$
Ok well .. washable 🤔
this bike doesnt really make sense. i mean it looks amazing like a dirt bike, but has a relatively low speed and range more like the Super 73. the top wattage is impressive, but this bike is crazy for people coming from an ebike pedaling background, and probably underwhelming to true motorcyclists or dirt bikers.
This specific bike in the review is the lower end model they offer a more expensive version with a higher top speed and distance range
this 1 is lower speed than my 1500w hub motor and that only cost me $700 for the hub motor and battery. if you're going to spend money on this type of "ebike/e dirt bike" get a sur ron, same price as the segway and higher top speed
I just bought this thing for 170 bucks 💀💀💀
did u get it
@@renielramos4029 just learned a Blackfoot
@@c2ooshiesty bullshit
Range anxiety
Real men don't have range anxiety because they take electricity wherever they desire. lol
@@RantTherapist that's dope...
It looks like a toy. Not enough rake, wheels too small, price too high.
Pray for that can find. Sewgay my name is wamatu
Lol get stranded for 3200+ that's all this is
Lmao I bought the bike. Not that bad, going 16 to 22 mph in the city gets me pretty far. I can climb all over the broken sidewalks with ease ✨
this looks like a glorified e-bicycle