Why Do Junior College Students Choose JC Over Poly? | Hot Take

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  • @TheSmartLocal
    @TheSmartLocal  4 місяці тому +7

    What are some factors that affects your decision when choosing an institute? 🤓

  • @seth-leong-scott3474
    @seth-leong-scott3474 4 місяці тому +117

    I high-key wonder if life would've been better for me if I had not chosen JC over poly. I had a raw l1r5 of 8 points but I had a solid idea of what I wanted to pursue, so I put poly as my first choice in JAE. My family and friends urged me to reconsider because JC has a higher chance of going to uni, the route is shorter, and one of them even bitterly told me about his older sister who went to poly and failed and the parents had to sell off some property just to get money to send her to continue her studies overseas. I was so swayed by their arguments that I went through the process of appeal to get into JC.
    Little did I know just how painful the process would be. Despite my good score, the JCs were all fully occupied and the only 2 JCs that could take me in were mid to low-tier JCs. So I didn't even get to claim the prestige of studying in JC, struggled like mad in my studies, was super relieved that I somehow miraculously got into NUS, ... only to find out when I entered the course that for this particular course that there are a bunch of poly students in there and they are actually able to go straight to year 2. So that eliminates the perceived benefit of me going into JC. To top it off, NUS doesn't teach shit. They expect us JC students to alr know how to do some technical stuff. And I have to ask these poly students for help coz they know how to do these things. So like what was the point of going through an education that gives us zero preparation for uni.
    Paiseh this was a long rant ik but I needed to get that off my chest.

    • @0614aw
      @0614aw 3 місяці тому +3

      Long but valid rant! It’s true that you had to struggle much more in JC but I’m sure it would help build more tenacity in Uni and I’m glad that it all kind of worked out in the end for you

  • @jimw8615
    @jimw8615 4 місяці тому +115

    A few things stand out here. No different from 30yrs ago. Sg students are clueless of wat they want. I can tell u it’s the same even after A level, after Uni.
    Sg students are jus a brunch of hard workers being overload with school work, projects, exams,… they hv no time to know themselves, explore the different options, basically, know wat they like & dislike, strength & weaknesses. There are a lot more in this world than wat is offer in school & Uni.
    I am 50. Can’t recall any of my peers are still doing wat they major in Uni.
    Tis problem of not knowing wat u want still remain the same after 30-40 years of our high stress, high workload education.
    Basically, jus work hard, get good grades, go to good school.
    But are clueless of wat u want in life.
    Be more open minded, take a look at other education systems. Ask ourselves tough questions.
    Working hard is good, but doesn’t solve the question of wat u want.

    • @teas7063
      @teas7063 4 місяці тому +1

      thank you for this

    • @bogang5119
      @bogang5119 4 місяці тому +2

      What if I want to be artist? Can earn money, but can’t afford quite a few things. What if I want to be astronaut/astronomer? No space agency. Want be vet? No vet school. ‘What I want’ usually can’t be found, or is not financially sustainable in sg..

    • @jimw8615
      @jimw8615 4 місяці тому

      @@bogang5119you just dare not pursue your dream. Period. Very typical of Sg student.

    • @purple.requiem
      @purple.requiem 4 місяці тому

      nobody can force you to remain in sg. If you want to be astronaut study in US. If you are still going to give excuses you dont deserve it. period.

  • @gladystan615
    @gladystan615 4 місяці тому +64

    Not based off this video but personally feel that the stereotype of poly is a easier way out as compared to jc is still kinda circulating in society.
    Factors like studying duration, more freedom, and more gives the vibes that poly is “much more easy” as compared to jc. But in reality…actually is really not that easy.
    The projects after projects. Working with different people hoping they dont slack off and screw up ur gpa. Other than projects also having to focus on exams. Depending on poly (i was from rp) we also have like “mini quiz” we call PQ after almost all lessons everyday and almost every week depending if the lesson was clustered or not. And these PQs do affect our cumulative GPA as a whole which is also stress.
    As for JC the main stress is the last and finial exam that they are preparing for for the 2 years which is Alevels but poly is kinda like everyday u are fighting for ur grades everyday u are trying not to screw up things which will then screw up ur GPA.
    I feel like stress are like everyday no matter JC or Poly. And really passion burns out with the stressful environment. In my opinion (i can be wrong correct my if im wrong) people are looking for higher paying jobs to survive in this high cost of living society. Be it what they pursued in the beginning when choosing the course or starting from zero. People tends to leans towards the higher paying job.
    Thats where people sometimes can dont do what they love/inspire to be. I can say i inspire to do so and so when i grow up. But in reality when factors like grades, education level, job opportunities dont get they way u want it to be. They next best choice would be finding job that is of higher paying.
    Kinda sad to be honest that passion are burnt out in society now.
    (Above written are my opinion, im open up for discussion if there are any opposing views😁)

    • @Talemuse
      @Talemuse 2 дні тому

      As someone who is much older and have almost 2 decades of working experience, I say this. Go JC not Poly. Bec JC almost guaranteed you a spot in Uni which is all that matters. A diploma is a waste of time in today's degree flushed economy. You are doing yourself a disservice if you go into the market looking for job with a diploma. You will always be second tier and hence why some poly grads feel disillusioned when they dont get the good things in life. Get a degree, get experience, keep training and you will easily make 10K and above in 10 years.

  • @patrickwu919
    @patrickwu919 4 місяці тому +85

    If u go to JC, u MUST go to uni next... Or else u'll just end up with an A levels cert n it will be very difficult to get a job outside, cos it is no different from an O levels cert in the employers' eyes...

    • @bogang5119
      @bogang5119 4 місяці тому +3

      But for poly people who don’t choose to go uni, while they can immediately start working, they will typically get lower pay than uni grads. Some poly people still aim for uni cuz of this, in which case I think might be slightly easier if you go in via JC path.

  • @ghostingmoa9182
    @ghostingmoa9182 4 місяці тому +83

    JC: + short route to uni, + no need self-regate, + generalistic education, - stress asf from As, - very theory driven, - if u fail As u become stuck
    Poly: + relax study life, + Sepcialisation, + can work right out of poly, - need self regulate, - need score very well to get direct y2 (tie up route to uni y2 w jc), - extend education if change course
    I would've prefered poly in hindsight (dsa into jc) because:
    - already had a rather solid idea of what I wanted to pursue
    - go jc largely for the school name xD
    - couldnt be bothered to study cos the teachers nag to study xD
    - poly style ~ uni style, so wouldve been more prepared for uni life (incl self regulation)

    • @ikywTROUBLE
      @ikywTROUBLE 4 місяці тому +5

      grass is always greener on the other side, if you couldn't be bothered to study in poly you were likely to not have ended up in a preferred uni

    • @colesza
      @colesza 4 місяці тому

      @@ikywTROUBLE some people prefer a different way to learn and not study notes all the time bro its not that deep

    • @ghostingmoa9182
      @ghostingmoa9182 4 місяці тому

      @@ikywTROUBLE yes but on the upside to that, even if one didnt do superbly well at poly, theyd have been able to work (with a chance to be in the field theyre after). an A level cert is practically worthless in comparison to a poly diploma in that comparison.
      ofc if not bothered to study in poly, it just depends on results. if fail, study to pass, if can pass, can already lah. if the plan is to direct y2 to uni, then ofc should attempt to keep high gpa in poly. study harder if want go to prefered uni, basically same as if aiming for uni at all though...
      and also, its the same logic for A level takers, do well to go to prefered uni. but for As, its literally a once and for all deal. do badly and dont get a course you want, maybe not even offered at all? then u are stuck w 3 options: private U, retake As, reroute to poly.

    • @seth-leong-scott3474
      @seth-leong-scott3474 4 місяці тому

      Similar situation as you. I had a raw l1r5 of 8 points but I had a solid idea of what I wanted to pursue, so I put poly as my first choice in JAE. My family and friends urged me to reconsider because JC has a higher chance of going to uni, the route is shorter, and one of them even bitterly told me about his older sister who went to poly and failed and the parents had to sell off some property just to get money to send her to continue her studies overseas. I was so swayed by their arguments that I went through the process of appeal to get into JC. Little did I know just how painful the process would be. Despite my good score, the JCs were all fully occupied and the only 2 JCs that could take me in were mid to low-tier JCs. So I didn't even get to claim the prestige of studying in JC, struggled like mad in my studies, was super relieved that I somehow miraculously got into NUS, ... only to find out when I entered the course that for this particular course that there are a bunch of poly students in there and they are actually able to go straight to year 2. So that eliminates the perceived benefit of me going into JC. To top it off, NUS doesn't teach shit. They expect us JC students to alr know how to do some technical stuff. And I have to ask these poly students for help coz they know how to do these things. So like what was the point of going through an education that gives us zero preparation for uni.
      Paiseh this was a long rant ik but I needed to get that off my chest.

    • @ghostingmoa9182
      @ghostingmoa9182 4 місяці тому

      @@seth-leong-scott3474 i feel u T^T

  • @wildhorses8127
    @wildhorses8127 4 місяці тому +31

    I chose JC over poly because, like one of the girls, I wanted the shortest path to university. Also, I was not ready for the freedom in poly. Think I would have wasted my time and slack off because I'm not that disciplined. The academic rigor in JC is intense, but that really stretches you mentally too.

  • @realzia2
    @realzia2 4 місяці тому +31

    Just go to jc honestly. In jc you are in control of your own results. (except for pw ig but now it’s easier since it’s a pass or fail subject) Even if you mess up in j1 you can still ace your a lvls. Meanwhile in poly, you have to maintain your gpa for 3 years and you can get pulled down by useless group mates in projects or biased lecturers.

    • @thenotoneandonly
      @thenotoneandonly 23 дні тому

      the useless groupmates part is true man. What if I get lousy friends or groupmates who don't do their work properly and then I have to suffer because of them? Rather go solo even if it's hard. Ik it's not suitable in the long run when have to work with your collegues at work but still rather prefer the jc way

  • @hom3r
    @hom3r 4 місяці тому +16

    Either choice would have a risk of dropping out. Most important thing is to know what you want to do in future regardless how long it takes.

  • @BlueMilkTea443
    @BlueMilkTea443 4 місяці тому +6

    Majority of my classmates from poly dont want to go uni. After graduate with the diploma cert straight away go work. Not to mention there are also ite graduates straight away work one.... I think they are the ones that doesnt care about high education level, and just want faster income. I know someone i know that only have nitec cert and work after graduate then now he is a supervisor. So i think depends on individual? I mean your future so u decide.....

  • @thisiszw
    @thisiszw 4 місяці тому +48

    my opinion: if you can, definitely choose JC over poly, especially if you want to progress onto uni.
    its super hard to get into a local u from poly. you'd need at least like 3.6 GPA (this was back in like 2019)- which means scoring A's most of the time (and if u kena bad project grp members then GG).
    personally, i chose to go to poly, and graduated with 3.3 GPA. got rejected from all 3 local U's as well as SIT. in the end had the choice of either private or going overseas uni....

    • @LeBuboBubo-xf1ie
      @LeBuboBubo-xf1ie 4 місяці тому +2

      just curious, what did u do after getting rejected from uni? did u go to work in a field related to ur course or did u decide to go overseas for uni?

    • @thisiszw
      @thisiszw 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@LeBuboBubo-xf1ie went overseas uni but different course.
      considered going private (SIM RMIT and UOL), but decided against it.

    • @guitaristwizzy8215
      @guitaristwizzy8215 4 місяці тому +5

      i got 3.05 CGPA but still got into SIT engineering. I guess it depends on industry and course. I graduate with diploma in 2022 and applied that year as well.

    • @rubberduckyisgood5360
      @rubberduckyisgood5360 4 місяці тому +1

      You can get into SIT with 2.8 gpa

    • @thisiszw
      @thisiszw 4 місяці тому

      @@rubberduckyisgood5360 2.8?? my friend with 3.51 got rejected from SIT also lol. but like the above commenter mentioned, it probably depends on course (and probably how well your interview goes if you have one).
      also i found this link that shows the acceptance rate for respective GPAs- quite eye opening!
      www.singaporetech.edu.sg/sites/default/files/2021-01/SIT_Indicative_Grade_Profile_0.pdf

  • @mattiusphern6223
    @mattiusphern6223 4 місяці тому +5

    Insightful video! Would have been easier to watch if the video was edited based on the questions asked (with all the responses in one question segment) instead of the interviewee by interviewee...

  • @notmelah
    @notmelah 4 місяці тому +10

    Nobody talks about the disappearing and reappearing lalamove van 5:35 , is that some kind of next level marketing

  • @jytan740
    @jytan740 4 місяці тому +6

    Most choose jc cos they want to go to uni or they dunno wat to do or parents chose it for them

  • @mysticery
    @mysticery 4 місяці тому +138

    Honestly. I've always felt that JC students are far more mature than poly students. Poly has way too many playful students.. I guess it also depends on the course you pursue. And I don't think just because someone went into a poly knows what he/she wants to do. Great if you do, but it's just another academic path to take.

    • @frostboi77
      @frostboi77 4 місяці тому +15

      wah i feel the exact opposite siah, esp for the 23-24 batch
      my sch's were jus so immature and rowdy the whole time, v irritating eh
      i think ive just had better experiences interacting w poly ppl lol, they alw feel more mature cos they need to handle themselves more and stuff.

    • @lowzl3593
      @lowzl3593 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@frostboi77 really??? JC students rowdy?? 😢😢😢 im planning to go jc in the future....

    • @frostboi77
      @frostboi77 4 місяці тому +3

      @@lowzl3593 in every batch of ppl, i think you will usually find a minority that act out a lot, while the majority are still q ok. i just got stuck w a particularly bad batch lol, '24-'25 is not as bad as '23-'24, i think. (for my sch at least)
      also, the nature of the ppl you meet will definitely be affected by what school you go to. (im in YI lmao)
      tl;dr it'll probably b impossible to get away from rowdy peers, so try not to let that affect your decision too much

    • @lowzl3593
      @lowzl3593 4 місяці тому +1

      @@frostboi77 i see thanks for the advice! I mean currently in sec sch, I can say its pretty much the same or even worse still, the level of behaviour is simply unbearable as I'm in Express stream(supposedly named as good or ok students which clearly did not reflect in my batch at all) which it is depressing to live in so I mean not stereotyping but ig it is pretty expected by the name of the institution that one is going to as it often reflects the behaviour in the school....

    • @frostboi77
      @frostboi77 4 місяці тому

      @@lowzl3593 i mean i went to a pretty good boys sch and thr were boys of ALLL types, so i get the feeling that to an extent, everywhere you go will be the same eh
      (tho tbf to them, their "insensitive comments" still weren't on the level of my current peers eh)

  • @ttttt4f902
    @ttttt4f902 4 місяці тому +5

    you risk 2 years to save 1 year when youre going into JC

  • @Leo-jv6kz
    @Leo-jv6kz 15 днів тому +1

    If you like study and no age and work stress go JC and direct university its ok. Once you hated study not going university JC certificate cannot get any job. If you go polytechnic you can get work experience first , after that you can take part time degree , even starting pay will be low few hundred ya . But onces your certificate upz your experience will bring you have a higher salary than those people just out from university ya. Everything depends than your choice and the life stage .

  • @keemarotichai
    @keemarotichai 4 місяці тому +22

    so in a nutshell, jc students are clueless and have no clarity in their lives.of all interviewed, the indian girl in maroon/red was the only one who was sure and had clarity .someone with maturity.

    • @jaydenlee1228
      @jaydenlee1228 4 місяці тому

      you want to eat curry isit

    • @keemarotichai
      @keemarotichai 4 місяці тому

      @@jaydenlee1228 ur mum dropped u on ur head huh, very evident.
      Jayden. What a typically munjen name 😂

    • @obscurifyed
      @obscurifyed 4 місяці тому

      @@keemarotichai talking about colours, arent you the black as coal one? Pathetic

    • @mamamememoo
      @mamamememoo 4 місяці тому

      Agreed.

    • @bogang5119
      @bogang5119 4 місяці тому

      Maybe they’re clueless now becos too busy w acads? That’s why there’s a period between Alevel and choosing uni. To let people think of what to do. I was clueless, then after A’s went to work before enlisting NS. Between end of A’s and choosing uni, I had time to research courses and narrow down what I want

  • @swaser112
    @swaser112 4 місяці тому +12

    To the girl whose parents accepted her JC application for her, they did you a favour and you dodged a really big bullet. TP AMS is a rubbish niche course that you wouldnt need to get into the aviation industry.

    • @Bliss-ig4lj
      @Bliss-ig4lj 14 днів тому

      hi can u explain why u said that? u mean the course is useless?

    • @swaser112
      @swaser112 14 днів тому

      @ in a nutshell, yes.

    • @Bliss-ig4lj
      @Bliss-ig4lj 14 днів тому

      @@swaser112 i was considering AMS but now that u say this...haizz. could u elaborate?

    • @swaser112
      @swaser112 14 днів тому +1

      @ I graduated 10 years ago. The course is super niche like if you’re super into aviation, fine. But it is supposed to be a business management course, yet it is in the engineering faculty in TP.
      In all honesty, you don’t need this diploma to get a job in the aviation industry. There are so many uni graduates who majored in engineering and business that are working in aviation. Choose this course only if you want to network with the lecturers to get a job, and by network I mean bootlick. Heck, even ATC doesn’t need this diploma even though there’s a module on ATC in year 3.

    • @quentin13765
      @quentin13765 7 днів тому

      @@swaser112u aren’t explaining why

  • @cmatthew2222
    @cmatthew2222 4 місяці тому +30

    The rationale for picking JC over Poly because of not knowing what one wants to do seems to be just delaying the inevitable? It'll be more efficient to try and figure out what you like/dislike/can tolerate earlier on so that you get to make a different choice later on. But i guess i'm saying this in hindsight and people don't often end up working in the fields they major-ed in ;)

    • @faehimmirza2381
      @faehimmirza2381 4 місяці тому +6

      You got a point but I don’t think most of us wouldnt really know what we want to do at the age of 16. I went in poly and ended up switching courses because I didn’t like it after the first year

    • @-ZH
      @-ZH 4 місяці тому +18

      By “delaying the inevitable”, do you mean “giving yourself more time to decide”?
      Abd what’s the alternative here? Randomly deciding on a course and hope that you like it?

    • @dwaynethewokjohnson6646
      @dwaynethewokjohnson6646 2 місяці тому

      The phrase delaying the inevitable insinuates that the person will never get to know what they want to do. Going to a tertiary institution gives them a much better idea of what they want to do in the future than a secondary school does. You come off as an extremely uneducated fellow.

  • @e0031-w5e
    @e0031-w5e 4 місяці тому +2

    Why only have 2 schools 😂

  • @asibidibam
    @asibidibam 4 місяці тому

    whos the guy at 5:01 ? he seems really cute 😍

  • @MonroeGissing-b3g
    @MonroeGissing-b3g 4 місяці тому

    Miracle Skyway

  • @WildeSelena-m1r
    @WildeSelena-m1r 4 місяці тому

    Hickle Road

  • @NellLiuNini
    @NellLiuNini 4 місяці тому

    Amelie!

  • @NellLiuNini
    @NellLiuNini 4 місяці тому

    Omg pei Zhi!

  • @Jeff1255
    @Jeff1255 4 місяці тому +2

    Doesn't matter luh.
    Just remember to network, learn about how real life works, learn to invest and explore business ventures.
    Nowadays fresh uni grads mostly eat grass lan lan take contract job all. Job market now is basically fresh grad + job hopper fighting for that small pool of job
    Companies going lean and shifting roles out of SG to cheaper neighboring countries while exploring automation and leveraging AI to cut cost.
    By time yall graduate, I think worse LOLOLOL

  • @frostboi77
    @frostboi77 4 місяці тому +1

    wtf when did yall come to my sch and how did i not realise
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

  • @TobiasIannotti-l7s
    @TobiasIannotti-l7s 4 місяці тому

    Beier Tunnel

  • @g0ldenkook
    @g0ldenkook 4 місяці тому

    I went for JC cause I was conflicted on what I wanted to pursue + disliked working in groups (lo and behold imagine my shock when I found out about GP lol)
    Honestly regretted my decision cause JC made me so burnt out I couldn’t study with the same intensity again in uni

  • @qilimercurial5116
    @qilimercurial5116 4 місяці тому +5

    JC has better path to Uni than poly.

    • @hehejacey
      @hehejacey 4 місяці тому

      ofc its the only path jcs can go wym.

  • @skaviationcrush3463
    @skaviationcrush3463 4 місяці тому

    🏫