I drove for lumber company in the eighties and always stopped at the loop to watch the east bound climb the route, and yes it was a engineering marvel.
"WOW", from about 1990-2001, used to travel to San Diego 2-3 times annually. Wish I had knowledge of your club back then. I'm going to find y'all on line and follow your progress. Great Club!
I've been lucky enough to be part of the operating crew at La Mesa for four of their operating weekends. My first run I was engineer on the swing helper on a 66 car beet train running eastward up the hill. My locomotive was cut in about 2/3rds of the way back, with the rear end helper about ten cars ahead of the caboose. I've also worked as the engineer on the road locomotives on a 65 car eastward train, road engineer on westward passenger trains, locals working out of Bakersfield and as the yard switcher in Bakersfield. In every case it's very easy to forget that one is operating a model and to fall into the roll of being an actual train crew. A WONDERFUL railroad, run by some first class people. It's well worth taking the time to visit not only the La Mesa club, but also the other four model railroad exhibits in this world class museum.
I grew up in northern California so a long time SP fan, but never had been south of LA; but this layout is a masterpiece. I have been stranded on the east coast for decades now - the SP I knew as a young adult is long gone. I do hope to get out to this layout one day to see it in person. In the meantime I'm working on my own layout in my basement running D&RGW and SP trains from the late 1970's.
I have seen many videos of the 'La Mesa' model railroad and club, but this has to be the most informative and interesting one about who you are and what you are doing. Thank you very much for taking the trouble to do this. Greetings from Germany.
This is amazing. "In construction for 35 years" Wow! I was born and raised in Tehachapi, CA. The Tehachapi Loop was a favorite. The Best Western Mountain Inn had an HO scale model of the Tehachapi Loop, back in the 80's. I loved seeing that. Great video, thanks!!
I have road a train from Bakersfield to Mojave it was scary exciting never regret doing it I lived in California city and had no other way home so I road the sf tailor train 98! Flat under a reader trailer whole Lotta screeching on those wheels also have photos standing near one of the tunnels
I am so glad I found this video, as my Father in law lived in a box car at Cable for quite some time! My wife was 2 years old at the time so that would of been 1957. She talks about the engineer's tossing them candy and fruit as they went bye. His name is Garland Sparks. any information you may find from old records would be wonderful to see! Great job on the layout, and wonderful presentation. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Stolworthy Kingman AZ
What I really find impressive here is how smooth and level all the rails must be. I hardly saw any wiggling or jiggling if the rolling stock as it loved along. That really adds to the realism. If I’m ever out in San Diego I’ll make sure to visit this place.
That's due to the Car Shop standards for the equipment and also the Track Gang's painstaking work to make every joint and switch meet standards and flow smoothly. Several switches have lasted years without guard rails installed. I think we found a guard rail this year knocked out of its spikes, apparently never soldered in permanently, and no trains had any issues with it until someone noticed that "that switch looks a little weird...". Definitely plan to drop by if/when we are allowed to open up again. (sigh) NOM
Fantastic! I'm not a modeler but have railfanned Tehachapi about a dozen times. You've done a super job on the layout, I almost thought I was there almost 70 years ago.
Wonderful video of a magnificent layout. One of the best captures of a real rail route I've ever seen. Absolutely first rate backdrops and very believable scenery that accurately mimics the real thing. I'd venture to say that a lot of scenes could be taken for the real thing. Amazing scale speed operation also. Highest cudos to this club for the highest standards in model railroading. Great narration. Thank you for sharing this great layout.
Absolutely amazing landscape and detail work, and the narrator did a great job describing the tracks and ridings. I drive a semi over Tehachapi quite often and am always impressed at the length of trains crossing the pass. Now I know a little more about how they make it across. Thanks. Job well done!
This has been amazing. Thank you for letting us see both the public-facing (mostly?) finished settings and behind the scenes ongoing work. I'm a happier person, knowing this has been going for so long, with no end in sight. So you're dong important work. Some of us need all the help we can get, staying happy enough to be productive. Stay safe.
excellent video, i really appreciate the narration which adds so much information about the railroad. i have been there about a dozen times, but never can spend as much time as i would like, because the family gets bored and impatient.
Excellent in many ways. Detail and quality of narration, plus captions, really good and informative without being tedious. Filming, editing and especially selection of angles, is outstanding. The quality and realism of the layout is beyond criticism. Seldom have I experienced such an enjoyable video record.
I always make an effort to visit the San Diego Model Railroad museum when I’m home in the San Diego area. The La Mesa Model Railroad Club Tehachapi layout is my favorite HO layout, I also enjoy the N scale layout as well. Both the La Mesa Model Railroad Club layout & the N scale layout at the San Diego Model Railroad museum gives me ideas on how I want to do my Pacific West Coast Railroad layout. My ultimate goal is to model the entire West Coast from the San Diego area to. An outer,BC,Canada.
Excellent video of an excellent model railroad. The narrator has a clear, easy-to-understand voice. Good choice! Great for those of us with hearing difficulties. He describes and explains very well. Just wish he hadn't said, "Here we see . . . " so often.
Yeah, I think part of that was we shot this right after a 3 day convention in Palm Springs. My voice was shot... and my brain wasn't far behind! After about Tunnel 8 was shot after dinner, and we wrapped around 2Am. I was there until 4Am putting all the equipment away. So brain-fry was definitely an issue during this shoot, but at least we made it happen! Jason
I remember the La Mesa Club when they were in the old Fire Station on Nebo Drive in La Mesa. I worked behind that site at the old CDF La Mesa HQ station and frequently visited the layout. There sure were many talented young modelers at that time. That was in 1965.
What a great layout tour! This is a wonderful creation and looking at the scenery and structures you realise how much attention was paid to build it exactly like the prototype. I'm also in love with the great looking tracks - absolutely picture perfect.
It is a great layout. Jack has a great deal of information and experience to share. The part about minimum curve radius is interesting and important. It is important for the appearance of the train when operated. Good episode Looking forward to more.
I've seen photos of this club in the model railroad magazines! Yes, it's spectacular! What I really like about it is that they have the space and breathing room to create a railroad that actually travels through a realistic countryside at a realistic speed. Climbing the Pass was a marvel! I hope they post more videos as the scenery work progresses.
I visited the club around New Years Day 2020. I have been to many model rr clubs. This club is Bucket List material. As stated above, they have the room and the talent to do a great job of recreating a real road. “Selective Compression” does not seem to apply here. In addition to the big picture, there are many, many small scenes of impressive detail. San Diego is a great place to visit and this club should not be missed.
Actually selective compression does play a roll here... it's just that with an overall compression of only 50%, it looks like the real thing compared to many models that are forced to do more like 5-10% full size...
Definitely in the top 5 of my favorite model railroads / layouts. I would love to see it in person sometime if I’m ever in the area. If I lived down there I would certainly want to become a member as I would love to work on and operate that amazing layout.
It's great to keep building more ho train layouts they're worth investing money into n with new technology DCC n sound technology is better n more family entertainment
This is way beyond a model railway , congratulations guys !! Wales UK I just had to watch it again-in case I missed anything ! Your colours are wonderful , the sun-bleached weathering is spot on , a lot of layouts can look too dark (the paint colour .)and this makes them "model like" when viewed .
I believe it was within a couple months of this video shoot, the lighting in some parts of the layout was updated again. One of the problems with lighting as large a space as the LMRC layout fills, is getting bright enough artificial lighting which doesn't hurt the viewer's eyes. NOM
I see this layout every week and it is extraordinary. Though I am not currently a member of this club (there are four clubs and five layouts in the museum) I have operated on it and that is fun.
First saw this layout featured in Model Railroader Magazine way back when and was so impressed with the shot of grade crossing at Caliente. Didn’t realise it was real location until I read the article nevertheless the less it remains ( to my mind) one of the most if not best scenes featured in that esteemed publication 👍👍🇦🇺
Great fun flipping back and forth between this video and Google Map to find most of the places on this layout. Okay, so it took me longer than the 42:42 to get through it but it was interesting.
Monumental layout. If I might suggest a narration technique. It's redundant to keep telling the viewer, "Here we see...", "Here we see..."' "Here we see..." The viewer sees; simply tell them what is shown. Cheers!
I was directed to this video by way of Vic Yoder in search of details with the upper level of Tehachapi and Mojave. I have viewed the last several minutes where Jon explains the logistics of where stations are on the layout. I am befuddled as this view does not align with the layout as published by Model Railroader Magazine in 2003. It appears there have been major changes since then. I have taken upon myself the last 10+ years to construct the entire layout in the 3rd-Planit software CAD system and this piece is the last one to be finished. I would love to see a more detailed video of the upper level to where I can understand the station placements. Thank you very much for considering my request.
It's possible the layout design was changed up or that MR published something that was inaccurate. I don't have access to the MR map, so I can't comment on the latter, but if you're there, the layout definitely makes sense.
The layout underwent major design changes in the 2005-2009 time frame just before commencing the construction of the "final summit" over the top of Mojave Yard. One of the club members approached the GM and Chief Engineer of the layout and asked about improving several aspects of the main line between Mojave and Monolith, also the folding wye in the original plan for Tehachapi. There was also to be a "nod-under" just east of Cable in the original plan. The member and the Chief Engineer both came back with revised designs. The Chief's plan was to move the entire Tehachapi Tangent, minus Monolith, to be over Mojave Yard and put the wye into a bulge over the "upper tunnels" between Marcel and Cable. The Cameron Crossovers would be able to function in this plan, where as the original had less than a long train length between Mojave and Cameron, which made the crossovers of no practical operational use. The new plan called for a section of double-track to extend out over the public aisle access at the west end of the upper level viewing deck and about 300ft more track! The member that wanted to see the changes to the design called for a less ambitious design, which called for Mojave Yard to be flipped end-for-end and allow for the Mojave Wye and Summit Wye to be stacked over one another. This plan however still called for a nod-under and increasing the number of tracks from 2 to 5 (due to a second lap of track being added)! This plan would have added about 130ft of double track mainline. The plans were discussed at a club business meeting to decide which of the three options the club should actually build. Original Plan - Pro: Less track work to build, should be completed faster. Con: Cameron X-over serves no purpose, folding Summit Wye with brass steam engines operating on it regularly (asking for trouble), two-track duck under. Member Plan - Pro: Cameron with workable amount of mainline between Mojave and Cameron, addition of Mojave wye and engine house. Con: Increase in width of duck-under to 5 tracks, Mojave Yard would have to be cut into at least three pieces to be turned around - track and electrical crews which had just finished work were NOT HAPPY about their work being cut up and flipped around only a month after it was completed "Couldn't you have come up with these changes last year?" was one comment. Chief's Plan - Pro: 300ft longer mainline to put workable length between Mojave, Cameron, and Monolith, elimination of duck-unders completely, elimination of Summit "Folding" Wye, move wye to rigid location. Lengthen Tehachapi Siding and Summit Siding to nominal to long train lengths of 50-70 cars respectively from under 40 cars in original plan. Not requiring moving of Mojave Yard, it could stay in currently completed location. Con: Would take longer to build, requiring more engineering for trackwork and access challenges over public space. Perhaps too much mainline? - Concerns of this were covered by being able to keep the 'back connection' from Tunnel 10 to the 'Jawbone' branch into the west end of Mojave Yard. In the business meeting, after about 90 minutes of discussion and briefing by the Chief Engineer, myself and several others, plus the member that formed the 2nd plan, the discussion moved to which option the membership wanted. In the end it was decided to go with the 3rd option, "Chief's Plan", to which a member afterword remarked to me... "I guess if you're going to go down with the ship, it might as well be the Titanic!" Which pretty well summed up exactly what we all felt that night. The next 5-6 years were spent building the upper deck and we finally completed the "Summit connection" and had the Golden Spike ceremony during our August 2015 TT/TO operating session, complete with new Employe Timetable going into effect at "midnight" on the operations clock. **** So, yes... we didn't build the plan from the 2003 MR issue. The LMRC's Tehachapi Pass layout has been through many changes to "The Plan" over the 38-40 year history of its design and construction. As the layout progressed in construction, concerns were raised and changes implemented. This change just being one of the more 'public' ones. Truth be told, we still have the 2003 MR plan up at the layout to show the general layout of the towns and how it fits into the space. I always would point out the changes we made since the 2003 plan when I give tours. I think we made the right choice in going for "the whole enchilada". Yes, it took longer, but one of the things which we realized during the business meeting was... we're only going to get ONE SHOT at doing this. How much would it be sad if we finished plan 1 or 2 and then realized we should have done 3? We would never get the change to tear it out and do it the "other way"... so we decided the worst that could happen with Plan 3 was it would take another year or two... and we'd have more track to clean with that plan.
Absolute Respect for these guys. So much thought processes have they gone through to setup this layout, It's Amazing.
I drove for lumber company in the eighties and always stopped at the loop to watch the east bound climb the route, and yes it was a engineering marvel.
The standard for every modeler to strive for. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work.
"WOW", from about 1990-2001, used to travel to San Diego 2-3 times annually. Wish I had knowledge of your club back then. I'm going to find y'all on line and follow your progress. Great Club!
I've been lucky enough to be part of the operating crew at La Mesa for four of their operating weekends. My first run I was engineer on the swing helper on a 66 car beet train running eastward up the hill. My locomotive was cut in about 2/3rds of the way back, with the rear end helper about ten cars ahead of the caboose. I've also worked as the engineer on the road locomotives on a 65 car eastward train, road engineer on westward passenger trains, locals working out of Bakersfield and as the yard switcher in Bakersfield. In every case it's very easy to forget that one is operating a model and to fall into the roll of being an actual train crew. A WONDERFUL railroad, run by some first class people. It's well worth taking the time to visit not only the La Mesa club, but also the other four model railroad exhibits in this world class museum.
The historic information is priceless! Thank You so much, I'm AMAZED!
I drive through Tehachapi 3 times a year and your layout is very impressive . I’m glad there’s people like you guys to keep this amazing hobby alive!
I grew up in northern California so a long time SP fan, but never had been south of LA; but this layout is a masterpiece. I have been stranded on the east coast for decades now - the SP I knew as a young adult is long gone. I do hope to get out to this layout one day to see it in person. In the meantime I'm working on my own layout in my basement running D&RGW and SP trains from the late 1970's.
I can't even imagine the man years it took to build this layout. Great job!
I have seen many videos of the 'La Mesa' model railroad and club, but this has to be the most informative and interesting one about who you are and what you are doing.
Thank you very much for taking the trouble to do this.
Greetings from Germany.
This is amazing. "In construction for 35 years" Wow! I was born and raised in Tehachapi, CA. The Tehachapi Loop was a favorite. The Best Western Mountain Inn had an HO scale model of the Tehachapi Loop, back in the 80's. I loved seeing that. Great video, thanks!!
I have road a train from Bakersfield to Mojave it was scary exciting never regret doing it I lived in California city and had no other way home so I road the sf tailor train 98! Flat under a reader trailer whole Lotta screeching on those wheels also have photos standing near one of the tunnels
I am so glad I found this video, as my Father in law lived in a box car at Cable for quite some time! My wife was 2 years old at the time so that would of been 1957. She talks about the engineer's tossing them candy and fruit as they went bye. His name is Garland Sparks. any information you may find from old records would be wonderful to see! Great job on the layout, and wonderful presentation. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Stolworthy Kingman AZ
Im from Bakersfield. It’s awesome to see history
I don't really know why I'm watching this but I can't turn it off. It is absolutely fabulous!
Amazing. Looking forward to being able to come visit again.
What I really find impressive here is how smooth and level all the rails must be. I hardly saw any wiggling or jiggling if the rolling stock as it loved along. That really adds to the realism.
If I’m ever out in San Diego I’ll make sure to visit this place.
It's well-worth a trip to see this amazing accomplishment!
That's due to the Car Shop standards for the equipment and also the Track Gang's painstaking work to make every joint and switch meet standards and flow smoothly. Several switches have lasted years without guard rails installed. I think we found a guard rail this year knocked out of its spikes, apparently never soldered in permanently, and no trains had any issues with it until someone noticed that "that switch looks a little weird...".
Definitely plan to drop by if/when we are allowed to open up again. (sigh)
NOM
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Great video! Greetings from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
The layout Looks amazing just the history of the route is incredible
Magnificent work in progress.
I'm from Bakersfield, CA. When the pandemic is over I'm going to go see this layout.
For sure. But funny we will go to SD to see what's in our backyard.....these people did some great work.
All around well done video...
Yes I made it to the end with bells on...
cheers
Fantastic! I'm not a modeler but have railfanned Tehachapi about a dozen times. You've done a super job on the layout, I almost thought I was there almost 70 years ago.
Wonderful video of a magnificent layout. One of the best captures of a real rail route I've ever seen. Absolutely first rate backdrops and very believable scenery that accurately mimics the real thing. I'd venture to say that a lot of scenes could be taken for the real thing. Amazing scale speed operation also. Highest cudos to this club for the highest standards in model railroading. Great narration. Thank you for sharing this great layout.
Great job on the narration and video and thank you for sharing.
Thanks for sharing this layout visit, John. It has give me a much better understanding and appreciation for La Mesa Club's layout. ...Roy
Fantastic information great layout
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fabulous. And all at prototypical speeds. Well done.
Fantastic...loved the narration modeling rail operations and comparing model system to the real original.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was google mapping as watching....you guys are amazing....super well done...the detail is spot on!
This captures the era ...very realistic and well researched....
My gradson loves trains and loves this video--thank you!
Happy to hear that! There are lots of other videos your grandson and all his friends would love on this channel!
A Wonderful Layout, Very Awesome Tour!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great work. ✔️💯🏆
Thanks so much for sharing. 😉👌🏼
Absolutely amazing landscape and detail work, and the narrator did a great job describing the tracks and ridings. I drive a semi over Tehachapi quite often and am always impressed at the length of trains crossing the pass. Now I know a little more about how they make it across. Thanks. Job well done!
Incredible. Absolutely incredible. Fantastic.
So glad I saw this
Magnificent! Enjoyed your show and elevated my appreciation of hobby and history.
Fascinating show on how the layout works and what's behind the scenes. And I loved that long shot you mentioned. That place is huge! Thanks John.
Thanks, Greg! I thought you would appreciate this one!
you're scenery people are amazing with the accuracy and detail on the layout.
This has been amazing. Thank you for letting us see both the public-facing (mostly?) finished settings and behind the scenes ongoing work. I'm a happier person, knowing this has been going for so long, with no end in sight. So you're dong important work. Some of us need all the help we can get, staying happy enough to be productive. Stay safe.
excellent video, i really appreciate the narration which adds so much information about the railroad. i have been there about a dozen times, but never can spend as much time as i would like, because the family gets bored and impatient.
This is beyond impressive.
My ex wife lived in Keene, CA just down the road from the loop. Beautiful area.
Best layout Video tour I have seen.
I did make it to the end of this video....It was a fantastic video...AWESOME!!!
Just unbelievable! So realistic, great work! I'll have to watch this several times more! I've got some "Foamer" friends I'll have to send this to.
Beautiful modeling! As someone who models the KCS, that express box car is a long way from home!
KCS among many other RR's did have sealed mail connections to Oakland (Richmond) during the 1950s, via the Santa Fe.
Got some dirty/bad track in the section approaching tunnel 8. Beautiful layout!! I can't even fathom the work that had gone into this masterpiece!
Very well prepared and done. Beautiful layout.
I watch the Tehachapi railcam and this is a very good representation indeed!
I just watched this again. Still a big WOW!
Excellent in many ways. Detail and quality of narration, plus captions, really good and informative without being tedious. Filming, editing and especially selection of angles, is outstanding. The quality and realism of the layout is beyond criticism.
Seldom have I experienced such an enjoyable video record.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello from Sweden. I was about to post something similar. Totally agree! Great production!
you've put a good man on the mic.
It's nice to see the shorter 40 freight cars.
Cool video - thanks.
In my opinion the La Mesa Model Railroad Club has built the best model railroad in the US!
I always make an effort to visit the San Diego Model Railroad museum when I’m home in the San Diego area. The La Mesa Model Railroad Club Tehachapi layout is my favorite HO layout, I also enjoy the N scale layout as well. Both the La Mesa Model Railroad Club layout & the N scale layout at the San Diego Model Railroad museum gives me ideas on how I want to do my Pacific West Coast Railroad layout. My ultimate goal is to model the entire West Coast from the San Diego area to. An outer,BC,Canada.
excellent tour. thanks for sharing
Excellent video of an excellent model railroad. The narrator has a clear, easy-to-understand voice. Good choice! Great for those of us with hearing difficulties. He describes and explains very well. Just wish he hadn't said, "Here we see . . . " so often.
Yeah,
I think part of that was we shot this right after a 3 day convention in Palm Springs. My voice was shot... and my brain wasn't far behind! After about Tunnel 8 was shot after dinner, and we wrapped around 2Am. I was there until 4Am putting all the equipment away.
So brain-fry was definitely an issue during this shoot, but at least we made it happen!
Jason
Nice work simply awesome layout.
I remember the La Mesa Club when they were in the old Fire Station on Nebo Drive in La Mesa. I worked behind that site at the old CDF La Mesa HQ station and frequently visited the layout. There sure were many talented young modelers at that time. That was in 1965.
Excellent video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
What a great layout tour! This is a wonderful creation and looking at the scenery and structures you realise how much attention was paid to build it exactly like the prototype. I'm also in love with the great looking tracks - absolutely picture perfect.
Ive worked for the rr loved it always been interested in trains must be in my genes gret narretor And knowledgeable about the history Thankypu
Wonderful layout!
Wow! What a layout! Great camera work capturing the scenes of the layout. 😎
It is a great layout. Jack has a great deal of information and experience to share. The part about minimum curve radius is interesting and important. It is important for the appearance of the train when operated. Good episode Looking forward to more.
Jack?
Looks awesome, I will come and visit it when I come to California
Yes, double check that the museum is open. Most of the last year has been shut down because of the thing which shall not be mentioned.
I've seen photos of this club in the model railroad magazines! Yes, it's spectacular! What I really like about it is that they have the space and breathing room to create a railroad that actually travels through a realistic countryside at a realistic speed. Climbing the Pass was a marvel! I hope they post more videos as the scenery work progresses.
Simply amazing incredible workmanship.
I actually been there after going on USS midway and oh my god I was in heaven after going
That was a fantastic tour! Thank you for the wonderful time!
I visited the club around New Years Day 2020. I have been to many model rr clubs. This club is Bucket List material. As stated above, they have the room and the talent to do a great job of recreating a real road. “Selective Compression” does not seem to apply here. In addition to the big picture, there are many, many small scenes of impressive detail. San Diego is a great place to visit and this club should not be missed.
Actually selective compression does play a roll here... it's just that with an overall compression of only 50%, it looks like the real thing compared to many models that are forced to do more like 5-10% full size...
good history. thank you.
When I was stationed in San Diego(1976-1979), I used to spend the day at the museum
Thanks ! John and Jason !
THANK YOU JOHN GREAT VIDEO AWESOME INFORMATION AND THOUGHTS ON THIS LAYOUT AWESOME GOOD STUFF
Glad you enjoyed it!
AWESOME!
Spectacular job!
That was a fun layout to visit! Thanks for the video on it!
Definitely in the top 5 of my favorite model railroads / layouts. I would love to see it in person sometime if I’m ever in the area. If I lived down there I would certainly want to become a member as I would love to work on and operate that amazing layout.
It's great to keep building more ho train layouts they're worth investing money into n with new technology DCC n sound technology is better n more family entertainment
This is way beyond a model railway , congratulations guys !! Wales UK I just had to watch it again-in case I missed anything ! Your colours are wonderful , the sun-bleached weathering is spot on , a lot of layouts can look too dark (the paint colour .)and this makes them "model like" when viewed .
I believe it was within a couple months of this video shoot, the lighting in some parts of the layout was updated again. One of the problems with lighting as large a space as the LMRC layout fills, is getting bright enough artificial lighting which doesn't hurt the viewer's eyes.
NOM
@@NightOwlModeler Hi , I really meant the colour , though you are going to get more bright sunlight than we do in UK !
I used to check out the Balboa model railroad museum all the time when living near the area. It is really worth seeing in person 👍🚂
This is one of the best video of the pass made, it's like being home. Backroads Bob
This is advanced level model railroad.
PRETTY COOL!
I see this layout every week and it is extraordinary. Though I am not currently a member of this club (there are four clubs and five layouts in the museum) I have operated on it and that is fun.
Fascinating!
Awesome video. A fellow named Bruce let me run a Brass Daylight consist over this layout when I was a kid. (Like 15 years ago)
Just beautiful
Senssacional! esta maquete e perfeita. Perfeita operação com os trens. Parabéns!
Very cool👍
First saw this layout featured in Model Railroader Magazine way back when and was so impressed with the shot of grade crossing at Caliente. Didn’t realise it was real location until I read the article nevertheless the less it remains ( to my mind) one of the most if not best scenes featured in that esteemed publication 👍👍🇦🇺
Still a great layout to watch
awesome job, I hope to visit one day
Great fun flipping back and forth between this video and Google Map to find most of the places on this layout. Okay, so it took me longer than the 42:42 to get through it but it was interesting.
One word...WOW!!
l have been to that museum it’s my favorite
O......M........G!!!!! Thanks ❤️
I was wondering if anyone had ever had the time or space to capture this line. I'm gonna have to make some time to see this marvel!!!
Ive visited it cool part is this isn't the only layout there.
Was there in Feb 2017 when we came to the states for a holiday
Monumental layout.
If I might suggest a narration technique. It's redundant to keep telling the viewer, "Here we see...", "Here we see..."' "Here we see..." The viewer sees; simply tell them what is shown.
Cheers!
I wish the table was still there in Bakersfield
Someday bring my soft to this layout
I was directed to this video by way of Vic Yoder in search of details with the upper level of Tehachapi and Mojave. I have viewed the last several minutes where Jon explains the logistics of where stations are on the layout. I am befuddled as this view does not align with the layout as published by Model Railroader Magazine in 2003. It appears there have been major changes since then. I have taken upon myself the last 10+ years to construct the entire layout in the 3rd-Planit software CAD system and this piece is the last one to be finished. I would love to see a more detailed video of the upper level to where I can understand the station placements.
Thank you very much for considering my request.
It's possible the layout design was changed up or that MR published something that was inaccurate. I don't have access to the MR map, so I can't comment on the latter, but if you're there, the layout definitely makes sense.
The layout underwent major design changes in the 2005-2009 time frame just before commencing the construction of the "final summit" over the top of Mojave Yard. One of the club members approached the GM and Chief Engineer of the layout and asked about improving several aspects of the main line between Mojave and Monolith, also the folding wye in the original plan for Tehachapi. There was also to be a "nod-under" just east of Cable in the original plan. The member and the Chief Engineer both came back with revised designs.
The Chief's plan was to move the entire Tehachapi Tangent, minus Monolith, to be over Mojave Yard and put the wye into a bulge over the "upper tunnels" between Marcel and Cable. The Cameron Crossovers would be able to function in this plan, where as the original had less than a long train length between Mojave and Cameron, which made the crossovers of no practical operational use. The new plan called for a section of double-track to extend out over the public aisle access at the west end of the upper level viewing deck and about 300ft more track!
The member that wanted to see the changes to the design called for a less ambitious design, which called for Mojave Yard to be flipped end-for-end and allow for the Mojave Wye and Summit Wye to be stacked over one another. This plan however still called for a nod-under and increasing the number of tracks from 2 to 5 (due to a second lap of track being added)! This plan would have added about 130ft of double track mainline.
The plans were discussed at a club business meeting to decide which of the three options the club should actually build.
Original Plan - Pro: Less track work to build, should be completed faster. Con: Cameron X-over serves no purpose, folding Summit Wye with brass steam engines operating on it regularly (asking for trouble), two-track duck under.
Member Plan - Pro: Cameron with workable amount of mainline between Mojave and Cameron, addition of Mojave wye and engine house. Con: Increase in width of duck-under to 5 tracks, Mojave Yard would have to be cut into at least three pieces to be turned around - track and electrical crews which had just finished work were NOT HAPPY about their work being cut up and flipped around only a month after it was completed "Couldn't you have come up with these changes last year?" was one comment.
Chief's Plan - Pro: 300ft longer mainline to put workable length between Mojave, Cameron, and Monolith, elimination of duck-unders completely, elimination of Summit "Folding" Wye, move wye to rigid location. Lengthen Tehachapi Siding and Summit Siding to nominal to long train lengths of 50-70 cars respectively from under 40 cars in original plan. Not requiring moving of Mojave Yard, it could stay in currently completed location. Con: Would take longer to build, requiring more engineering for trackwork and access challenges over public space. Perhaps too much mainline? - Concerns of this were covered by being able to keep the 'back connection' from Tunnel 10 to the 'Jawbone' branch into the west end of Mojave Yard.
In the business meeting, after about 90 minutes of discussion and briefing by the Chief Engineer, myself and several others, plus the member that formed the 2nd plan, the discussion moved to which option the membership wanted. In the end it was decided to go with the 3rd option, "Chief's Plan", to which a member afterword remarked to me... "I guess if you're going to go down with the ship, it might as well be the Titanic!" Which pretty well summed up exactly what we all felt that night. The next 5-6 years were spent building the upper deck and we finally completed the "Summit connection" and had the Golden Spike ceremony during our August 2015 TT/TO operating session, complete with new Employe Timetable going into effect at "midnight" on the operations clock.
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So, yes... we didn't build the plan from the 2003 MR issue. The LMRC's Tehachapi Pass layout has been through many changes to "The Plan" over the 38-40 year history of its design and construction. As the layout progressed in construction, concerns were raised and changes implemented. This change just being one of the more 'public' ones. Truth be told, we still have the 2003 MR plan up at the layout to show the general layout of the towns and how it fits into the space. I always would point out the changes we made since the 2003 plan when I give tours.
I think we made the right choice in going for "the whole enchilada". Yes, it took longer, but one of the things which we realized during the business meeting was... we're only going to get ONE SHOT at doing this. How much would it be sad if we finished plan 1 or 2 and then realized we should have done 3? We would never get the change to tear it out and do it the "other way"... so we decided the worst that could happen with Plan 3 was it would take another year or two... and we'd have more track to clean with that plan.
@@NightOwlModeler Thanks, Jason. That was a lot more than I expected!