That’s why we should stop referring to them as Duke, Duchess, Prince and Princess. They are living in the USA. As long as we will address them with their titles, they will continue.
I agree and i have NEVER referred to any of these "people" by any title. And i put "people" in quotes because i do not believe either Archificial or Invisabet actually exist.
Certainly until proof is provided that both children were born of M's body. This is the legal requirement for the children to be in the line of succession and to have a prince/princess titles. Until that proof is provided to the crown, Parliament and the people of the UK and Commonwealth those children should not be allowed to have the titles or be in the line of succession. If M did not birth the children - as some allege - then a serious fraud is being committed.
Once Haz'bin has been stripped and removed from the Line of Succession, the children will automatically be removed along with him. I have nothing against either child, but unless she proves that they were born of her body(which she can't do) then I'm afraid they are not entitled to anything.
I agree. The titles need to go. The Royal family have waited a great length of time to show any decisions they make are not a knee jerk reaction to their bad behaviour. Actions have consequences and they are embarrassing and shaming the Royal family with their behaviour and actions. The children should also be removed from the line of succession. There is far too much doubt over their birth and Markle did not provide the required documentation to state she bore those children. Stop pandering to them and cut them loose!
It's the monetization that really annoys me. Their latest Netflix flop was marketed under their titles. They live in the States, they left the RF and then trashed them publicly while Prince Phillip was dying. It's disgusting behaviour IMO
@@TheRundownYTC It is truly disgusting, but I also feel annoyed at the BRF for inaction over what they've done. They've caused some irreparable damage to the BRF with some people who will always believe the lies that have been told!
@@AussieinUK-x8z yes, the inaction is definitely frustrating and I don't understand why they have chosen to do nothing. Perhaps it's because King Charles is the monarch but maybe had it been Prince William things would be different. I think it would be easier for William to cut Harry off formally
But remember that Charles carries "guilt" over the disastrous Diana union (other than the birth of his sons). The one thing about Charles is that he is smart. He knows he would be a hypocrite or be seen as hypocrite if he stripped his own son of his title after his own misdeeds. Thought enough time has passed for forgiveness for his union with his "true love," I believe he still carries the scar of his past. Harry will always be "prince" as son of the king. Perhaps William will see to it that Meghan's Duchess title is stripped along with Harry's Duke title.
Henry is the last in his LoS as his alleged children wasn't born of his wifes body so # 6 is Andrew then Beatrice etc. No child born out side of wedlock has ever inherited the crown
Oui, la justice devrait fouiller dans la vie de meghan je pense qu'elle pas dit toute la vérité sur et sa mère c'est le secret qu'elle a peur qu'il soit divulgué
Or maybe it's total autonomy with total "independence" that they want as well as the "right" to rebel against the rf. They "bit the (royal) hand that fed them" and which let them live at a highly elevated status. Uncouth Ingrates! Outrageous.
It was both, actually. Outrageous & obnoxious & unpardonable. Rejects on both continents. And for what? Some money which is "here today and gone tomorrow". What about social acceptance & credibility & reputation & status/rank (all flushed down the royal toilet). Some years from now, those 2 immature, ungrateful upstarts will see the error of their ways...but it'll be too late and there won't be any recourse even if they come crawling back to the rf on bended knee. Who do they (H & M) think they are? Probably untouchable Greek God's beyond reproach? How delusional they are!
@@anasttau9908 I doubt it is the real reason. The King cannot take the titles away. Only Parliament can. If you are British, lobby your MP. A constitutional monarchy works with limitations to the monarch's powers. Since Charles 1st, the King is not allowed to interfere with Parliament's decisions. In the UK's parliamentary democracy, Parliament is absolutely sovereign. The king reigns but does not govern. The matter of the titles raises constitutional issues that might be far more momentous for the RF than we might understand.
They did indeed, then turned 'round and said they never claimed racism at all, it was the British Media who said that. Nope, it was your wife, Harry. The jokes just write themselves with these two.
They should have lost them long ago. KC has repeatedly ignored requests to begin the process to strip them . If Harry wanted to do the right thing, he could put his title into abeyance so Meghan could no longer use hers. They are no longer pretending to be a couple anymore , and now that msm is asking about the kids, the truth has to come out ! There are NO CHILDREN !
Another theory is that there are children (whether they live with them is another matter), but they were not born of M's body. If this is the case then serious fraud is being committed, as they are not legally entitled to prince/princess titles or to be in the line of succession. Proof must be provided to the Crown, Parliament and the people of the UK and Commonwealth. If H&M are not willing to provide proof, then the children must lose the titles and be taken out of the line of succession until such time as proof is provided. Personally, I think as there is now a growing concern about serious fraud, then this must be investigated. The truth WILL come out.
@user-fw3ys9us2v Like father (Charles) like son (Harry). It's one type of irregularity or another among the male royals. Andrew is "beyond the pale" behavior lyrics and Andrew should be stripped of his title too and made to live in exile. The late queen has been too kind with the whole lot (C & A & H & M).
I really cannot fathom why the King cannot do something about the titles. Yes I understand Parliament needs to kick-start the bill BUT come on, Charles is the King, he can do something about it!!! This is why until today that the vile Harry & his nasty wife never learn that actions have consequences, urghhhhh, so mad about this!
King Charles could negotiate with Parliament to get those titles removed, yet he chooses not to, preferring to leave this Sussex nightmare for William to clean up.
One important qualifier is that, by UK law, the children are not entitled to titles or to be in the line of succession if they are not born of the body of M. This proof has NOT been provided. Given the growing questions over this issue, this matter must be resolved. The truth will come out one way or another, and it is appalling that the parents are continuing to play games and withold this information. Shame on them.
Why is the legitimate birth of Archie & Lillibet being contested in the first place? It seems that the rf and the sussexes have many "skeletons in the closet". Meghan has stooped to unprecedented lows and doesn't even realize it while dragging Harry down with her and he still doesn't realize it. He's desperate for a Diana reincarnation in the person of Meghan (the greedy con artist). And neither of them realize what a hefty price they're paying for some fame and money. The late queen was too kind to the whole wayward lot of them namely Charles, Andrew, Camilla, Harry and Meghan none of whom should be coronated or allowed to retain titles or live in palaces but be exiled.
@@milliemoo8207 For helping 'to save the planet or stop climate change' I believe. To me they are the biggest eco warrior hypocrites, up there with Leonardo DiCaprio. They do this while taking a private plane to a Katy Perry concert that they could have easily travelled to by car
Because they are too impatient to travel by car and also too "high & mighty". Since they are rich, they can buy their own plane and hire their own pilot and stewardess to fly them anywhere. They should've done that immediately instead of trying to hitch-hike on Airforce One like poor bums. They are richer than Joe Biden so why are they acting so stupidly and incongruously?!? They are both "full of it" which glaringly apparent to everyone but those two.
More than the TITLES, ( H ) Should be taken OUT of the Line of Successionn..... 😮 He should NEVER be allowed any chance of. Becoming KING, ever !!! 😢 😢😢😢
I always believed that the late queen should've prepared William to take the throne and skip over Charles completely for this precise reason. Charles & Camilla should've been made to go off and live elsewhere just like King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson. These 2 royal couples are analogously similar. Funny how history keeps repeating itself in that rf!
It’s up to KC to have the courage to protect his country & the RF by dealing decisively with his dodgy son & brother by removing them from all royal connections.
@@TheRundownYTC It's unconstitutional here in the USA to have titles, unless it is inherited or married into. Steven Spielberg, for example, received a knighthood from QEII but can't use it.
Suppose M&H are demoted and get knighted like Spielberg instead of having their current regal titles? That would be easier to swallow for both countries. But as it is now, people are vomiting worldwide. It's currently too outrageous.
@@TheRundownYTC That's the main point that completely escaped M&H. Neither of them have a grasp on reality whether it's due to grifting (like Meghan) or due to being delusional (Harry). M is a very calculating and greedy con artist and she totally "pulled the wool over everyone's eyes" in her quest to use the rf as a stepping stone to her next quest, which is to live in S. California amount the rich, A-list Hollywood stars. No one in CA was "born yesterday" and they all see her for what she is. That's how "nouveau riche" trash behave - just like Meghan. And Harry still doesn't know what hit him, blinded by love for his social-climbing wife.
I do not think the RF wants to get into a hassle with removing the titles, HARRY is lawsuit’s happy. and he would not think nothing of suing Parliament till doomsday for his perceived right! what a m 0:04 ess that would become. IMO if people did not pander to them/him and realise that outside of the UK, their titles mean nothing and that they cannot do anything for them as they represent only themselves, but as long as people/companies are in awe of a Royal prince sprinkle it will get him through the door.
Yes, but then they would be just comon people, and oh yes, just imagine their future... now they already know they will not go far...being comon at least makes it oficialy not conected with the Monarchy, that is why I think they should have no titles.
Their hypocrisy is staggering, but without the titles they have less than nothing to offer! Both are cheap, vacuous, and meaningless and, have so disgraced, discredited, demeaned and dishonoured the title that, in their hands, it has now become as tarnished and toxic as the couple. It is, as are they, worthless.
I would remove all titles and use the 1917 WW1 letters patent regarding traitors . Remove the Prince title as well . He can be just Harry .. Mr Sussex 😂
King Charles lll needs the Government to come out and protect our constitutional monarchy. Our government should recognise the will of the people and act on our behalf
Totally agree (here in America). To modernize is one thing but outright disrespectful rebellion and "biting the rich, royal hand that feeds you" is another. Surely there is a more dignified (and legitimate) way of going about this.
I entirely agree with Penny. As a Brit, my personal opinion is that the RF has a historical, and constitutional position within the nation. They do not rule the country but they do place limits on the powers of governments. However, no magic fairy dust gets sprinkled on anyone born into or marrying into the RF that turns them super human. They get status, prestige and reverence because they serve the country, act as a unifying focus, support British culture, and spotlight good causes. If they do not do that, then I feel they lose any rights to the title. The Sussexes not only stopped serving this country, it's people and the RF but have used every opportunity to demeans all three. King Charles cannot strip the Sussexes of their titles but he can and should petition Parliament to do so. I think he doesn't want to because he fears further alienating his son. I fear he may be forced to do so soon as their flatlining popularity makes them more desperate and reckless.
That's exactly it - they are reckless and desperate, why else produce the shows they've produced. And yes, it has been pointed out that Charles cannot simply strip them of titles but like you said technically he could petition parliament to do so. And as for alienating his son (although I agree that would happen), I also think Harry has done it to himself and has essentially alienated himself from a lot of family and friends already, it seems. I think Carles needs to think of the Monarchy but also this storm will pass and constitutionally Harry is irrelevant.
@TheRundownYTC I agree, in the long run, the Sussexes are irrelevant. It is ironic that they left a country where status was just handed to them and went to a country where people care more about what you do than who you are. And everything they did, and do, was only a minor success or mainly an outright failure. So much so that even their Royal allure is wearing thin. And wearing thinner with every passing year. Attention will start to dissipate, and that is when they will have to resort to more and more shocking tactics to win it back.
I wonder if King Charles doesn’t want his legacy to be that he removed the titles of his son and daughter-in-law. His reign will be a short one, practically speaking, and I think he will leave it to William to do. Idk.
@@ElaineR. Great question, perhaps he is thinking of his legacy, perhaps he feels he can't because it's his son or perhaps he thinks the storm will pass. Time will tell
@ElaineR. I think you are right, King Charles doesn't want that as his legacy, but his hand may be forced. As people go from disliking the Sussexes to boredom and losing interest (they have become quite predictable) then the Sussexes will become more desperate to get attention.
The titles should have gone a LONG time ago. The title removal is an act of Parliament. So far Parliament has nixed any moves to drop the title when it has come up and KCIII has made no overture to Parliament that he supports a removal of the titles. I do believe there are things KCIII can do with amending the Letters Patent to put the titles in abeyance for the Sussexes (because they walked away from royal life and are monetizing which is a violation of the Sandringham Agreement) and even Prince/Princess titles (because the kids are living in the USA with American accents and have no connection to the royal family). However Charles is "soft". He does not want to close the door to his "darling boy", alienate him further or tip Harry over the edge to un-alive himself supposedly. However Charles is the head of state and must realize he has to consider more than family relations, but must consider the future of the monarchy itself. Because what the Sussexes are doing is hurting the reputation of the Royal Family.
They could also look into changing the current rules to make sure that titles are only given to those residing in the country. Although I know that doesn't exist in every Royal family, it does happen in some and I think that it is fair. There is no point in having American princes and princesses. A war was fought and won in order to not have that system in the US
Yesss!!!!...the best comment on side!!!....I don't like Charles III anymore....one thing is being a father..and another thing is being king and Chief of state...he should abdicate in favor of William....William will be a great king!!!
Their titles will never get rescinded....at least not under the current monarch. If you look at the BRF history even those 2 that shook hands with the Nxxi chief did not get their titles revoked... The BRF will protect their families first even though darling son n old Meg are traitors.
Except, they want to piss people off with their arrogance, entitled behavior. I can't believe their titles havent been stripped yet. When will these to knuckleheads just go away? Just go seek "privacy" somewhere else.
Honestly, they have rendered their titles meaningless and less than royal with their words and behaviors. A much smarter, more meaningful step, IMHO, would be to take any and all steps for the titles to be permanently and forever retired after Harry's death. Time will pass, but even in decades I doubt anyone would want the title of Duke of Sussex bestowed upon them. JMHO
Hold on Archie WAS offered a title: he was offered the title “Earl of Dumbarton” but Meghan chose to decline this very generous and well meaning gesture because it had ‘dumb’ in the name and she believed it would lead to easy criticism due to the negative connotation. Honestly, that says far more about her and actually pissed the people of Dumbarton off. So this was an outright lie. She refused to accept the title that had been graciously given. And as everyone now knows, the title of “Prince” specifically couldn’t have been bestowed on any of Harry’s children at the time of their birth since Charles was not yet king. Once our great Queen Elizabeth died they seemingly forgot their previous accusations and scrambled to start referring to both kids as Prince and Princess (which became their legal birthright as of Sep 2022), so I guess even they conceded it wasn’t anything to do with skin colour…? They’ve never clarified this and you can easily check out everything I’m claiming above as fact.
If Charles had never become king, the children would never have received those titles. In the Oprah interview MM states she was informed, by multiple people, there were to be no titles and why, fast forward a couple of minutes, then she says it's racism. She can't string a thought together for 5 minutes at a stretch.
As far as I am concerned, the Duke and Duchess title means diddley squat, especially like you said they are not working royals, they are not doing their service and duties and they left service and duties for fame and fortune. As if that wasn't bad enough, they went on a public platform, Meghan accusing the RF of racism and on their NF docuseries insinuating that they practically fled for their lives from the UK, RF, etc. If it was that bad, why still hold unto the titles?? The same for Archie and Lilibet, the Prince and Princess titles means diddley squat. For the record, their titles are not marketable because if it were, they both would be doing far better than they are doing right now. Spotify and Netflix gave them huge deals, Spotify dropped them and Netflix is about to do the same and I can tell you right now, that they would not be getting any huge deals from any huge companies like Spotify or Netflix. Even WNE can't manage to get her/them any deals whatsoever and its being almost 2 years since they signed her up. You want to know why that is? Its because they are not marketable/bankable, nobody cares about them or their titles cos if they did, they would have been very successful and filthy rich by now, but they are not.
I really hope Charles isn't just leaving it to William so he can be the bad guy in the eyes of those who would oppose it. I also think Meghan would still pull the race card if they got rid of their titles. It needs to be done though, they're literally pissing all over the monarchy, and getting away with it.
I support this 100% I live in the USA and they keep trying to use their titles here like they are still working royals. What are they waiting to strip them off their titles? They keep mucking and embarrassing the monarchy.
Seeing and hearing some of these things again just makes me so effin mad! The audacity of them both, ughhhh. They are ridiculous! So pleased they're not in this country anymore, although I feel for our cousins in the USA...
There are so many complications coming from removing their titles, acts of parliament, the threat of legal action,, "the pairs" fans screaming racism, etc. They could just remove them from the line of succession, and suffer the backlash, but the Royal Family, play the waiting game, and quite frankly it is paying off, " the pairs" lies are being revealed, "the pairs" popularity dramatically reducing, their attempts at businesses failing, their causing the Royal Family problems are having less and less effect, and every day harry and family move further down the list, and into irrelevance.
Andersen Cooper once asked Prince Harry after the Oprah Winfrey interview, “Why not relinquish your title?” Harry’s response to him, “What difference would that make?” Well, let KC remove his royal title and see how people will treat him and look at him. Let KC take his royal title away and see how many events he can gate crash and get away with it. Let KC take his royal titles away and see how many awards he can buy. So Prince Harry asks what difference does it make to relinquish his title? Can I laugh now, since it’s New Year’s Day, 2025? Thanks, because I can’t contain myself from laughing! I’m a laughter by birth! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Their titles need to be officially removed! These 2 were not supposed to use their titles after megxit. In addition, these titles and their “children’s” titles were only valid in the UK. Nobody needs to address them as duke and duchess because they can’t sue anyone for not calling them by those titles! They don’t belong to any dukedom or duchy anymore! We should ignore these titles and totally ignore them so that they’ll leave everyone alone and just fizzle out.
What I’ve read on the subject says stripping a member of the aristocracy/royal family of their title isn’t a simple process. It’s long and drawn out and Parliament is involved. There were several titles stripped during World War 1 as the monarchy sought to distance itself from its own German ties. So there is precedent for it, but with everything else King Charles is facing with his own cancer treatment and that of his daughter in law, I cannot say I would blame him for not wanting to add the lengthy process of stripping a title to his plate. Let Harry and Meghan make fools of themselves and their empty titles. It gives us so many more nickname opportunities. 😜
H and M have been allowed to behave badly with no real consequences from the RF, enough already. Time for the titles to go, but can they also be prevented from using Prince and Princess? M would love being called that😝
I disagree. Once the title is bestowed, it doesn't justify the man, the man must justify the title. If the titles are stripped, it'll just be another distraction, another excuse for them to play victim. Let them keep them. If they keep on with their ridiculousness, their titles will start to sound almost sarcastic. Nobody would be able to use them with a straight face.
@@ceeveekaye That's definitely another way to look at it and it makes sense. The more they get what they want, the more spoiled and entitled they seem. Even them insisting on using titles from an institution they claim tried to smear Meghan and was racist toward their son makes no sense.
@TheRundownYTC Yes, the racist royal family, the head of which still funds her clothing allowance if I'm not mistaken. She was given so much leeway once they were engaged, more than any other royal bride I can think of, more than any other royal bride would even dare to expect or ask for. It's like they were bending over backwards to accommodate her so they wouldn't be seen as prejudiced and it only emboldened her more so that when she was told no, she pitched a fit and claimed they were working against her. Nothing is ever good enough for narcissists. They're never satisfied, and that's how an actress who's virtually unknown can waltz in, marry a prince, and expect everyone to cater to her every demand and truly believe she deserves it. They have no empathy, they have no respect for boundaries. I think some of the royal family saw early on that this might not be a good match, but I think they underestimated how entitled she already was, much less once was married into the family and they were stuck with her.
@@TheRundownYTC As much as I think they've made a mockery of the titles given to them and as much as I do get your point and agree with the sentiment, another reason why I believe the titles should be left as they are is that instead of Meghan being the Duchess of Sussex, once the titles are stripped, Prince Harry will still be a prince of the realm. As long as they're married, not having those titles would make Meghan Princess Henry. I heard that from another source that I don't have any reason to doubt, but I'm not absolutely sure either so I could be wrong. But if it's true, I think that would be a bigger insult to the monarchy than her being a Duchess.
The main problem is that the King cannot take their peerage titles away. Only Parliament can. Likewise for the line of succession. This Parliament, just like the former one, doesn't seem to see it as a priority, considering the many challenges they are faced to. I suppose also that the legal issues involved are much more complicated than what the public think. It is unprecedented in time of peace. The last time it happened was in WW1 for their German relatives when the UK was at war with Germany. As for the Duke of Windsor, it is a completely different matter since he abdicated. The king has brains. His mission is inter alia to preserve the unity of its people, not to fuel divisions. People don't remember how divided the public opinion was when the duo megxited. Since then, he has wisely ignore them like you ignore irrelevant people and has let them self-destroy their reputation on a global stage without getting publicly involved. I'm convinced he has the advice of constitutional experts on the matter. As for the line of succession, it does not really matter. First, H. is only 5th in line. At some point the Wales children will have their own children, pushing him further down in the line. Then, Parliament has the last word about who is to reign. It is very doubtful they would accept a monarch living or brought up abroad. There is a certainty: the king will not be pushed by social media, especially from abroad, to take a momentous decision that might have unforeseen effects on other members of the RF. The easiest way would be to issue new letters of patent and do like some North-European monarchies did: exclude from the LOS any heir not living or brought up in the country. That might be the way for a newly anointed king William who might also choose to cut down the princes' title and keep them only for the direct heirs. Already in the previous generation, apart from the Prince of Wales, heir to the throne, only one opted to have titles for his children: Prince Andrew. Just my reading of the situation, of course. None of us have inkling about what goes on behind the scene. Thanks for your channel.
Of course, this couple going around with their titles taking on weird roles and endeavours. They are not even staying in UK let alone in Sussex. Take the titles away!
While I would agree and like the titles to be removed, it would actually b worse bc Harry would never loose his birthright as Prince and therefore by extension megain wd b titled Princess Henry and we KNOW she wd never use it that way and refer to herself as princess megain. So removing the duke and duchess titles would do ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD! And to b honest she has ruined the title so much it really has no mark, so let her have it…it is her mr. DeMille close-up moment.
That's a fair point you make. I see where you're coming from, I guess it's just frustrating to see those credits on the still from their Netflix series Polo with the titles. They seemingly know how to make themselves unlikeable
Agreed it is frustrating as I am sure for those of us that have had to deal with these types personally, it can be exhausting. And I am sure that the RF feels both.
For Haz'bin to lose the Royal Titles (Dukedom, Earldom & Baronage), it requires a lengthy and complicated process through the Parliament. However, according to the Deprivation of Titles Act, 1917 KCIII CAN initiate this process himself. His failure to act in the matter makes him appear to be a weak King as well as a weak father. He should also initiate the removal of his traitorous son from the Line of Succession and strip his Titular Dignity (ie Prince). Nothing less will satisfy the people!
Leave them with the one title she refuses to use. Duke and Duchess of Dumbarton because it has the word Dumb in it. I think theyve proven that one correct now. I feel sorry for the people of Dumbarton which I'm sure is a beautiful place.
You're right but in theory that could be done. They should do what they need to do to stop them monetizing their titles. But that's just my opinion. I understand others may not feel that way
Titles taken or left as-is, the more important question that needs to be addressed is the Line of Succession. Harry and his children can never serve in the "Top Job". Andrew either. The King not acting on that shows his decision was to "let someone else deal with that fiasco should it happen." The more he waits, the worse it looks.
Great broadcast again. Let's break this down through the filter of empiricism. Consider the abdicated former King and his Yankee wife in 1936. They were stripped of HRH and were demoted as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Both exiled from The Kingdom. Now then, even though it transpired that these two traitors ended up cavorting with Hitler as Nazi sympathisers during WW2, King George and, subsequently, Queen Elizabeth, did not strip their titles. And The Crown remained steadfast as such until Edward and Wallis both passed. It seems fair to say that the King will keep a similar stance as, to be honest, his second son is not that important in the grand scheme of things. Parliament on the other hand may indeed seek to strip Harry, his wife, (alleged) children, AND Prince Andrew of titles. I reckon King Charles would handily oblige lawmakers by granting his Royal Assent based upon his subjects' invocation. The swiftest justice would be both tumours excised in one fell swoop, then be done with it. Lastly, this great Constitutional Monarchy would willinging embrace Republicanism before those rat weasels get anywhere near the Line of Succession. Truly. Just my opinion. Thanks again for your thoughtful content.
Thank you for your insightful comment. It's greatly appreciated . I completely see your point. In the grand scheme of things Harry isn't actually important (in terms of the Monarchy) and yes perhaps the King is looking at what was done with Edward in not stripping the titles and hopes that time will bring more triumphs and of course challenges. The difference is that Harry and Meghan monetize their titles. They make money from them while trashing the monarchy. And of course it is hard to fully compare the two situations (like I'm doing now) because of the difference in era. In the 21st century people can monetize pretty much anything thanks to the internet.
@@TheRundownYTC Yes, thanks back for your comment. The difference between then and now is indeed Social Media. But as KC3's Great Grandfather assured: Adapt and survive. More will be revealed and we can watch it all unfurl together.
@@christinechandler5690You're right. He managed to keep it but with a stipulation that his wife and descendants, if any, shall not hold any title. At least Edward didn't try to monetize it 😜
@@christinechandler5690 Well if one wants to match your hair-splitting pedantry I'll respond that I never typed that they were formally exiled, now did I? Other comment "corrections" you feel a burning desire to share with me? 🙄
Penny, Charles doesn’t have the bottle to strip his “Darling Boy” of any title. He loves his son…it could cost him his crown IMHO. Thanks for your gr8 work.
Long text. While I see some merits in stripping them of their titles, it would have a short-term benefit and cause more problems for the RF. The duo would use it as a weapon to further portray the narrative that they were victimized and it would be a way to force the RF out of the _never complain, never explain_ protocol which they duly follow. That said, if the titles should ever be removed, it should have been HMLTQ who did it immediately so that the blowback would not spill over to KCIII's reign and PW's. The next best person or time to do so is now, during KCIII's reign, as PH's father, so the burden does not fall on PW. Now, there is no way HMLTQ and other senior members have not discussed this thoroughly with Parliament and other necessary personnel involved. The Monarchy is too important to the British government to be sabotaged by the antics of the duo. It is my opinion that RF's strategy of grey-rocking the duo will pay off in the long run. They have begun to take small calculated steps in yearly periods: they already diminished their importance on the RF website, removing all fluff about both and only putting verifiable facts and putting them below P. Andrew (One I found interesting was the bio on Meghan being that she was an actress, did not see all the humanitarian fluff she had on her bio on the Sussex website), another was the removal of the statement PH released about the MM when he was still dating her. Further instances occurred when the British Ambassador to Nigeria released a statement that the duo were not representing the British government in any capacity. I am sure the Colombian government got the memo too. In short, grey-rocking is needed because the RF have to be careful of taking any rash steps as this can set a precedent for future instances (hopefully they do not happen). Finally, I think the most important obvious, yet subtle reason the title should not be stripped is this: of what importance is a title if it is useless? If the holders are of no talent or are controversial themselves, or cannot command prestige, fame, respect, marketability, positive public sentiment, etc? The duo have nothing tangible or objectively successful to show for their exit from the RF in the last 5 years. America does not really care about them and Hollywood is done with them (Spotify, Netflix probably in 2025, Oprah and TP probably keep them around to market off them when an opportune time comes). I see the RF including the link to the Sussex website as saying "Here is what we can verify about the two, anything else, go to their website and find out yourself, and whatever association you have with them if you decide to, is at your own risk" All in all, the issue of stripping them of their titles is something I am sure the RF and British government have had extensive talks over. We should just observe how it plays out.
"that RF's strategy of grey-rocking the duo will pay off in the long run" - I think you've hit the nail on the head with that one. Perhaps I am too impatient. You make great points in your comment so thank you for your insightful opinion. It's always nice to hear a nuanced answer. Great stuff. You are right about the titles now being useless and it only goes to show them as even more obnoxious than originally thought. The idea that they use those titles on their latest Netflix flop but insisting they want 'normalcy' for their kids is symbolic of their behaviour for the past 6/7 years.
Meghan did indeed state on the OW interview...In her own words, comparing Princess Catherine to herself, she said..."There is a difference between rude and racism" her words, MM said that...Then said that Archie will not get a title because of the colour of his skin, potentially?
If we wanna get real technical, there’s only one person we can really blame for giving them all these titles And privileges and it’s not Cowardly Charles.
Totally agree as I think most US royal watchers and UK citizens. However Charles is a weak man and a weak king, he can’t even have them removed from the royal website. He maybe respected for other things but as the head of his family and the monarchy he is not. What he or whoever advises him doesn’t seem to realize is that because of Harry’s jealousy and bitterness that he will not be a king, he will continue to compete and try to Sabotage William and by doing that he jeopardize the future of the monarchy in the UK. There are enough Republicans in the UK who will use Harry to devalue and demean William, with or without Meghan by his side. He will use his titles to that end. Unlike Andrew, Harry will refuse to retire quietly into obscurity. Charles has done nothing but to encourage the Sussex by basically doing nothing which has only encouraged them to take advantage of his doing nothing and doing their own version of half in and half out. It’s like a Hispanic telenovela that is on tv here . Or will it turn into a Greek or Shakespeare tragedy in time?
Excellent video with a succinct message as to precisely why these two need to have no further royal connection via these titles. I agree that they base ALL OF THIS CONSTANT MEDIA on their titles alone. Harry being Diana son, forget Charles, is what he dines out on. They're both all about Diana imo. Absolutely strip the titles and force them to rely on themselves alone. The media around them both will quickly dry up once the dust has cleared. That would be absolutely heavenly; no more daily stories on these two grifters.
Thanks for the comment. You're right, they would have nothing left and I imagine Netflix will drop them too. If they can't trade on their Royal connection, everything flops (we see this happening already)
I trust King Charles ❤if he reacted according to how we feel and demand all the time he would have made alot of mistakes. So far he has dealt with the hackles pretty well. It might take a while but it's coming definitely.🇿🇲❤
That is a very valid point. I can understand that but I still think it's silly of Harry and Meghan to keep using their titles in the way that they do. When I saw the still from their Netflix polo only this month I couldn't believe they would use it under 'produced by'.
That’s why we should stop referring to them as Duke, Duchess, Prince and Princess. They are living in the USA. As long as we will address them with their titles, they will continue.
Let's do it!
Agree 👍
I think you are right. If the media and the public stopped referring to these titles, they would become ineffective.
I agree and i have NEVER referred to any of these "people" by any title. And i put "people" in quotes because i do not believe either Archificial or Invisabet actually exist.
@@suzannecoe4347 And you wonder why M&H made racist accusations! That is too harsh!
The alleged children should be stripped too considering there's no real proof of their existence
By Royal Law you are correct and they should be removed from The List.
Certainly until proof is provided that both children were born of M's body. This is the legal requirement for the children to be in the line of succession and to have a prince/princess titles. Until that proof is provided to the crown, Parliament and the people of the UK and Commonwealth those children should not be allowed to have the titles or be in the line of succession. If M did not birth the children - as some allege - then a serious fraud is being committed.
Agreed
Once Haz'bin has been stripped and removed from the Line of Succession, the children will automatically be removed along with him. I have nothing against either child, but unless she proves that they were born of her body(which she can't do) then I'm afraid they are not entitled to anything.
Harry & Meghan is a disgrace to Royal Family. They should be stripped of their titles. Thanks for your amazing content ! ❤
I agree. The titles need to go. The Royal family have waited a great length of time to show any decisions they make are not a knee jerk reaction to their bad behaviour. Actions have consequences and they are embarrassing and shaming the Royal family with their behaviour and actions. The children should also be removed from the line of succession. There is far too much doubt over their birth and Markle did not provide the required documentation to state she bore those children. Stop pandering to them and cut them loose!
It's the monetization that really annoys me. Their latest Netflix flop was marketed under their titles. They live in the States, they left the RF and then trashed them publicly while Prince Phillip was dying. It's disgusting behaviour IMO
@@TheRundownYTC It is truly disgusting, but I also feel annoyed at the BRF for inaction over what they've done. They've caused some irreparable damage to the BRF with some people who will always believe the lies that have been told!
@@AussieinUK-x8z yes, the inaction is definitely frustrating and I don't understand why they have chosen to do nothing. Perhaps it's because King Charles is the monarch but maybe had it been Prince William things would be different. I think it would be easier for William to cut Harry off formally
But remember that Charles carries "guilt" over the disastrous Diana union (other than the birth of his sons). The one thing about Charles is that he is smart. He knows he would be a hypocrite or be seen as hypocrite if he stripped his own son of his title after his own misdeeds. Thought enough time has passed for forgiveness for his union with his "true love," I believe he still carries the scar of his past. Harry will always be "prince" as son of the king. Perhaps William will see to it that Meghan's Duchess title is stripped along with Harry's Duke title.
Henry is the last in his LoS as his alleged children wasn't born of his wifes body so # 6 is Andrew then Beatrice etc. No child born out side of wedlock has ever inherited the crown
It isn't privacy it is secrecy they want!!!
@@peggychamberlain9515 Agreed!
Oui, la justice devrait fouiller dans la vie de meghan je pense qu'elle pas dit toute la vérité sur et sa mère c'est le secret qu'elle a peur qu'il soit divulgué
@@EleonoraLemarechal Je viens de traduire ton message et je suis d'accord avec toi.
Or maybe it's total autonomy with total "independence" that they want as well as the "right" to rebel against the rf. They "bit the (royal) hand that fed them" and which let them live at a highly elevated status. Uncouth Ingrates! Outrageous.
I don’t think it was “airing dirty laundry”
It was lie after lie after lie
Almost all of it was fabricated.
It was both, actually. Outrageous & obnoxious & unpardonable. Rejects on both continents. And for what? Some money which is "here today and gone tomorrow". What about social acceptance & credibility & reputation & status/rank (all flushed down the royal toilet). Some years from now, those 2 immature, ungrateful upstarts will see the error of their ways...but it'll be too late and there won't be any recourse even if they come crawling back to the rf on bended knee. Who do they (H & M) think they are? Probably untouchable Greek God's beyond reproach? How delusional they are!
Refuse to listen to her lies
Unbelievable six years of constantly trashing the RF and they still have titles.
Really unbelievable
For me it shows King Charles weakness. He is not thinking about the Monarchy or William, he is just thinking about himself as a father.
@@anasttau9908 I doubt it is the real reason. The King cannot take the titles away. Only Parliament can. If you are British, lobby your MP. A constitutional monarchy works with limitations to the monarch's powers. Since Charles 1st, the King is not allowed to interfere with Parliament's decisions. In the UK's parliamentary democracy, Parliament is absolutely sovereign. The king reigns but does not govern. The matter of the titles raises constitutional issues that might be far more momentous for the RF than we might understand.
Meghan Markle is a professional CON ARTIST…That’s it…Plain and Simple…
@@anasttau9908 чарльз думає лише про себе, як 'короля', який нарешті заліз на трон
They accepted an award for fighting racism n the RF!
They did indeed, then turned 'round and said they never claimed racism at all, it was the British Media who said that. Nope, it was your wife, Harry. The jokes just write themselves with these two.
Poor confused, bitter Harry.
A very bogus, and paid for award, as well.
They should have lost them long ago. KC has repeatedly ignored requests to
begin the process to strip them . If Harry wanted to do the right thing, he could
put his title into abeyance so Meghan could no longer use hers. They are no
longer pretending to be a couple anymore , and now that msm is asking about
the kids, the truth has to come out ! There are NO CHILDREN !
I do think they should have lost them a long time ago too
Another theory is that there are children (whether they live with them is another matter), but they were not born of M's body. If this is the case then serious fraud is being committed, as they are not legally entitled to prince/princess titles or to be in the line of succession. Proof must be provided to the Crown, Parliament and the people of the UK and Commonwealth. If H&M are not willing to provide proof, then the children must lose the titles and be taken out of the line of succession until such time as proof is provided. Personally, I think as there is now a growing concern about serious fraud, then this must be investigated. The truth WILL come out.
Harry do the right thing!!! That's a joke all on its own.
@user-fw3ys9us2v Like father (Charles) like son (Harry). It's one type of irregularity or another among the male royals. Andrew is "beyond the pale" behavior lyrics and Andrew should be stripped of his title too and made to live in exile. The late queen has been too kind with the whole lot (C & A & H & M).
Strip the titles!!
I really cannot fathom why the King cannot do something about the titles. Yes I understand Parliament needs to kick-start the bill BUT come on, Charles is the King, he can do something about it!!! This is why until today that the vile Harry & his nasty wife never learn that actions have consequences, urghhhhh, so mad about this!
Of course he can..
Charles can’t even remove them from the royal website. I know he has cancer but if he cannot do his job as monarch then let William be king!
King Charles could negotiate with Parliament to get those titles removed, yet he chooses not to, preferring to leave this Sussex nightmare for William to clean up.
Eco warriors supposedly. What hypocrites, too. They make me sick
They should be jailed for the outrageous proven lies! Allegedly!
We don’t even know if the children are real so surely that’s the first step to be taken ,the truth
She named her latchkey daughter out of spite .how despicable can you get. Shame on doofus for letting her. Horrid people.
BE A KING REMOVE TITLES, YOU HAVE A MOUNTAIN OF EVEDENCE TO DO IT
They really do need the titles taking away from them. Had enough of them being so disloyal to the Royal family and us the British people.
One important qualifier is that, by UK law, the children are not entitled to titles or to be in the line of succession if they are not born of the body of M. This proof has NOT been provided. Given the growing questions over this issue, this matter must be resolved. The truth will come out one way or another, and it is appalling that the parents are continuing to play games and withold this information. Shame on them.
Why is the legitimate birth of Archie & Lillibet being contested in the first place? It seems that the rf and the sussexes have many "skeletons in the closet". Meghan has stooped to unprecedented lows and doesn't even realize it while dragging Harry down with her and he still doesn't realize it. He's desperate for a Diana reincarnation in the person of Meghan (the greedy con artist). And neither of them realize what a hefty price they're paying for some fame and money. The late queen was too kind to the whole wayward lot of them namely Charles, Andrew, Camilla, Harry and Meghan none of whom should be coronated or allowed to retain titles or live in palaces but be exiled.
They accepted an award for having two (alleged) children.
@@milliemoo8207 For helping 'to save the planet or stop climate change' I believe. To me they are the biggest eco warrior hypocrites, up there with Leonardo DiCaprio. They do this while taking a private plane to a Katy Perry concert that they could have easily travelled to by car
Because they are too impatient to travel by car and also too "high & mighty". Since they are rich, they can buy their own plane and hire their own pilot and stewardess to fly them anywhere. They should've done that immediately instead of trying to hitch-hike on Airforce One like poor bums. They are richer than Joe Biden so why are they acting so stupidly and incongruously?!? They are both "full of it" which glaringly apparent to everyone but those two.
More than the TITLES, ( H )
Should be taken OUT of the
Line of Successionn..... 😮
He should NEVER be allowed any chance of. Becoming KING,
ever !!! 😢
😢😢😢
100%
He would be regent and rule should anything happen to William now.
Totally!!!
100%
Charles needs to grow a pair!!!!
oh yes he does!!!!
I agree
Charles has always been undecisive in taking action; if he can't act, then he should stand down and allow William to rule.
I always believed that the late queen should've prepared William to take the throne and skip over Charles completely for this precise reason. Charles & Camilla should've been made to go off and live elsewhere just like King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson. These 2 royal couples are analogously similar. Funny how history keeps repeating itself in that rf!
Prince Philip warned about coming across as a soap opera years ago!!!!
It’s up to KC to have the courage to protect his country & the RF by dealing decisively with his dodgy son & brother by removing them from all royal connections.
Unfortunately, he has no spine.
@@sethputnamsghost neither did the late queen.
That's something the late queen should've done. But alas, she was too kind, may she rest in peace.
strip the titles for all of them. America does not recognize titles
Exactly, the States doesnt even recognise that system in their own country - it simply doesn't have Princes and Princesses
@@TheRundownYTC It's unconstitutional here in the USA to have titles, unless it is inherited or married into. Steven Spielberg, for example, received a knighthood from QEII but can't use it.
Suppose M&H are demoted and get knighted like Spielberg instead of having their current regal titles? That would be easier to swallow for both countries. But as it is now, people are vomiting worldwide. It's currently too outrageous.
@@TheRundownYTC That's the main point that completely escaped M&H. Neither of them have a grasp on reality whether it's due to grifting (like Meghan) or due to being delusional (Harry). M is a very calculating and greedy con artist and she totally "pulled the wool over everyone's eyes" in her quest to use the rf as a stepping stone to her next quest, which is to live in S. California amount the rich, A-list Hollywood stars. No one in CA was "born yesterday" and they all see her for what she is. That's how "nouveau riche" trash behave - just like Meghan. And Harry still doesn't know what hit him, blinded by love for his social-climbing wife.
I don't understand ánd it's a shame why the Parliament didn't strip the titles yet.
I know what you mean
Sticky and dip-py should have lost the titles the second they left the RF
The titles must go as a citizen of the UK no way back for the traitor what they did to our great queen ELIZABETH 11
Charles is weak, not a leader and a full blown elitists. 😮😮😅
He's weak (indesisive) because the late queen was too kind & tolerant & forgiving, bless her royal heart and may she rest eternally in peace.
@hudahashim33tthats why nobody replied to you. Keep on being delusional and I will ask "how's that working out for you?"
I think they should lose their titles. To much bad has happened and we want our Royals to continue without all this nonsense happening.
Perfect analogy, JERRY SPRINGER😂
Taking away their titles will do next to nothing. Don't get me wrong the titles should be removed. But it won't stop their abysmal behavior.
I do not think the RF wants to get into a hassle with removing the titles, HARRY is lawsuit’s happy. and he would not think nothing of suing Parliament till doomsday for his perceived right! what a m 0:04 ess that would become. IMO if people did not pander to them/him and realise that outside of the UK, their titles mean nothing and that they cannot do anything for them as they represent only themselves, but as long as people/companies are in awe of a Royal prince sprinkle it will get him through the door.
It will stop monytizing there titles
Yes, but then they would be just comon people, and oh yes, just imagine their future... now they already know they will not go far...being comon at least makes it oficialy not conected with the Monarchy, that is why I think they should have no titles.
he cannot sue parliament.
If the king publicly stripped there titles, i imagine king charles would be praised and more popular
10000%
They better strip them fast, before the divorce, otherwise will she be a duchess forever?
She might get demoted to her title of Countess of Dumbarton. That might be fun.
Their hypocrisy is staggering, but without the titles they have less than nothing to offer! Both are cheap, vacuous, and meaningless and, have so disgraced, discredited, demeaned and dishonoured the title that, in their hands, it has now become as tarnished and toxic as the couple. It is, as are they, worthless.
I would remove all titles and use the 1917 WW1 letters patent regarding traitors . Remove the Prince title as well . He can be just Harry .. Mr Sussex 😂
King Charles lll needs the Government to come out and protect our constitutional monarchy. Our government should recognise the will of the people and act on our behalf
Totally agree (here in America). To modernize is one thing but outright disrespectful rebellion and "biting the rich, royal hand that feeds you" is another. Surely there is a more dignified (and legitimate) way of going about this.
I entirely agree with Penny. As a Brit, my personal opinion is that the RF has a historical, and constitutional position within the nation. They do not rule the country but they do place limits on the powers of governments. However, no magic fairy dust gets sprinkled on anyone born into or marrying into the RF that turns them super human. They get status, prestige and reverence because they serve the country, act as a unifying focus, support British culture, and spotlight good causes. If they do not do that, then I feel they lose any rights to the title. The Sussexes not only stopped serving this country, it's people and the RF but have used every opportunity to demeans all three. King Charles cannot strip the Sussexes of their titles but he can and should petition Parliament to do so. I think he doesn't want to because he fears further alienating his son. I fear he may be forced to do so soon as their flatlining popularity makes them more desperate and reckless.
That's exactly it - they are reckless and desperate, why else produce the shows they've produced. And yes, it has been pointed out that Charles cannot simply strip them of titles but like you said technically he could petition parliament to do so. And as for alienating his son (although I agree that would happen), I also think Harry has done it to himself and has essentially alienated himself from a lot of family and friends already, it seems. I think Carles needs to think of the Monarchy but also this storm will pass and constitutionally Harry is irrelevant.
@TheRundownYTC I agree, in the long run, the Sussexes are irrelevant. It is ironic that they left a country where status was just handed to them and went to a country where people care more about what you do than who you are. And everything they did, and do, was only a minor success or mainly an outright failure. So much so that even their Royal allure is wearing thin. And wearing thinner with every passing year. Attention will start to dissipate, and that is when they will have to resort to more and more shocking tactics to win it back.
I wonder if King Charles doesn’t want his legacy to be that he removed the titles of his son and daughter-in-law. His reign will be a short one, practically speaking, and I think he will leave it to William to do. Idk.
@@ElaineR. Great question, perhaps he is thinking of his legacy, perhaps he feels he can't because it's his son or perhaps he thinks the storm will pass. Time will tell
@ElaineR. I think you are right, King Charles doesn't want that as his legacy, but his hand may be forced. As people go from disliking the Sussexes to boredom and losing interest (they have become quite predictable) then the Sussexes will become more desperate to get attention.
The titles should have gone a LONG time ago.
The title removal is an act of Parliament. So far Parliament has nixed any moves to drop the title when it has come up and KCIII has made no overture to Parliament that he supports a removal of the titles.
I do believe there are things KCIII can do with amending the Letters Patent to put the titles in abeyance for the Sussexes (because they walked away from royal life and are monetizing which is a violation of the Sandringham Agreement) and even Prince/Princess titles (because the kids are living in the USA with American accents and have no connection to the royal family).
However Charles is "soft". He does not want to close the door to his "darling boy", alienate him further or tip Harry over the edge to un-alive himself supposedly.
However Charles is the head of state and must realize he has to consider more than family relations, but must consider the future of the monarchy itself. Because what the Sussexes are doing is hurting the reputation of the Royal Family.
They could also look into changing the current rules to make sure that titles are only given to those residing in the country. Although I know that doesn't exist in every Royal family, it does happen in some and I think that it is fair. There is no point in having American princes and princesses. A war was fought and won in order to not have that system in the US
Yesss!!!!...the best comment on side!!!....I don't like Charles III anymore....one thing is being a father..and another thing is being king and Chief of state...he should abdicate in favor of William....William will be a great king!!!
@@albertosanz8446 I agree, I was never happy about Charles becoming King; he's weak.
Defund the monarchy.
@gillianbrookwell1678 100%
Their titles will never get rescinded....at least not under the current monarch.
If you look at the BRF history even those 2 that shook hands with the Nxxi chief did not get their titles revoked...
The BRF will protect their families first even though darling son n old Meg are traitors.
Totally agree. Strip the titles and get some normality back.
Except, they want to piss people off with their arrogance, entitled behavior. I can't believe their titles havent been stripped yet. When will these to knuckleheads just go away? Just go seek "privacy" somewhere else.
Like in neutral Canada or France (royal history is repeating itself)
This is the U.S.A we don’t have ROYAL titles here… to me they are merely Haz & Megs 🥂
Let's all call them Haz and Megs from now on! Personally, I prefer "Nutmeg" for her, but to each his own...
@@TopicalDelusions how about the 2 stooges?
Honestly, they have rendered their titles meaningless and less than royal with their words and behaviors. A much smarter, more meaningful step, IMHO, would be to take any and all steps for the titles to be permanently and forever retired after Harry's death. Time will pass, but even in decades I doubt anyone would want the title of Duke of Sussex bestowed upon them. JMHO
Hold on
Archie WAS offered a title: he was offered the title “Earl of Dumbarton” but Meghan chose to decline this very generous and well meaning gesture because it had ‘dumb’ in the name and she believed it would lead to easy criticism due to the negative connotation. Honestly, that says far more about her and actually pissed the people of Dumbarton off.
So this was an outright lie. She refused to accept the title that had been graciously given.
And as everyone now knows, the title of “Prince” specifically couldn’t have been bestowed on any of Harry’s children at the time of their birth since Charles was not yet king. Once our great Queen Elizabeth died they seemingly forgot their previous accusations and scrambled to start referring to both kids as Prince and Princess (which became their legal birthright as of Sep 2022), so I guess even they conceded it wasn’t anything to do with skin colour…?
They’ve never clarified this and you can easily check out everything I’m claiming above as fact.
If Charles had never become king, the children would never have received those titles. In the Oprah interview MM states she was informed, by multiple people, there were to be no titles and why, fast forward a couple of minutes, then she says it's racism. She can't string a thought together for 5 minutes at a stretch.
As far as I am concerned, the Duke and Duchess title means diddley squat, especially like you said they are not working royals, they are not doing their service and duties and they left service and duties for fame and fortune. As if that wasn't bad enough, they went on a public platform, Meghan accusing the RF of racism and on their NF docuseries insinuating that they practically fled for their lives from the UK, RF, etc. If it was that bad, why still hold unto the titles?? The same for Archie and Lilibet, the Prince and Princess titles means diddley squat.
For the record, their titles are not marketable because if it were, they both would be doing far better than they are doing right now. Spotify and Netflix gave them huge deals, Spotify dropped them and Netflix is about to do the same and I can tell you right now, that they would not be getting any huge deals from any huge companies like Spotify or Netflix. Even WNE can't manage to get her/them any deals whatsoever and its being almost 2 years since they signed her up. You want to know why that is? Its because they are not marketable/bankable, nobody cares about them or their titles cos if they did, they would have been very successful and filthy rich by now, but they are not.
Only parliament can strip the titles.
Megan has dirt on the King. Otherwise the queen would have taken care of this 5 years ago.
They have plenty of dirt on her that will destroy any future earning.
When the future King Edward VII visited the U.S., he was told that he could not enter under his royal title because there was no royalty in America.
Making my way through your content these past couple of days. Great work! Good to have you on the scene haha.
Thanks a million for your support and for watching ❤️
NOT JUST CONSIDER. JUST DO IT
I really hope Charles isn't just leaving it to William so he can be the bad guy in the eyes of those who would oppose it. I also think Meghan would still pull the race card if they got rid of their titles. It needs to be done though, they're literally pissing all over the monarchy, and getting away with it.
That's exactly what he's doing; KC3 has always been undecisive.
Charles isn’t any better than Andrew or Harry. Spineless coward.
I support this 100% I live in the USA and they keep trying to use their titles here like they are still working royals. What are they waiting to strip them off their titles? They keep mucking and embarrassing the monarchy.
And embarrassing themselves. When is that delusional pair ever going to realize that?
Seeing and hearing some of these things again just makes me so effin mad! The audacity of them both, ughhhh. They are ridiculous! So pleased they're not in this country anymore, although I feel for our cousins in the USA...
There are so many complications coming from removing their titles, acts of parliament, the threat of legal action,, "the pairs" fans screaming racism, etc.
They could just remove them from the line of succession, and suffer the backlash, but the Royal Family, play the waiting game, and quite frankly it is paying off, " the pairs" lies are being revealed, "the pairs" popularity dramatically reducing, their attempts at businesses failing, their causing the Royal Family problems are having less and less effect, and every day harry and family move further down the list, and into irrelevance.
Everything these two have done has been completely calculated and intentional. Give them the same respect they gave to HMQEII. Zero!
It will be William who solves this problem. Charles is too weak and doesn't want to get into trouble.
This is a really good video - and you are so right! Thank you!
Andersen Cooper once asked Prince Harry after the Oprah Winfrey interview, “Why not relinquish your title?” Harry’s response to him, “What difference would that make?” Well, let KC remove his royal title and see how people will treat him and look at him. Let KC take his royal title away and see how many events he can gate crash and get away with it. Let KC take his royal titles away and see how many awards he can buy. So Prince Harry asks what difference does it make to relinquish his title? Can I laugh now, since it’s New Year’s Day, 2025? Thanks, because I can’t contain myself from laughing! I’m a laughter by birth! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don’t believe the King has power to take the titles. Parliament has that power.
He can help
Charles has shown himself to be weak in more ways then one.
Exactly ,he is spineless.
Their titles need to be officially removed!
These 2 were not supposed to use their titles after megxit. In addition, these titles and their “children’s” titles were only valid in the UK. Nobody needs to address them as duke and duchess because they can’t sue anyone for not calling them by those titles! They don’t belong to any dukedom or duchy anymore!
We should ignore these titles and totally ignore them so that they’ll leave everyone alone and just fizzle out.
What I’ve read on the subject says stripping a member of the aristocracy/royal family of their title isn’t a simple process. It’s long and drawn out and Parliament is involved. There were several titles stripped during World War 1 as the monarchy sought to distance itself from its own German ties. So there is precedent for it, but with everything else King Charles is facing with his own cancer treatment and that of his daughter in law, I cannot say I would blame him for not wanting to add the lengthy process of stripping a title to his plate. Let Harry and Meghan make fools of themselves and their empty titles. It gives us so many more nickname opportunities. 😜
Jerry Springer 🤣🤣 yes, yes!!
m/h are the kind that Jerry would have loved these crazy drama queens. They would both be in heaven on Springer. 🤣
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H and M have been allowed to behave badly with no real consequences from the RF, enough already. Time for the titles to go, but can they also be prevented from using Prince and Princess? M would love being called that😝
I disagree. Once the title is bestowed, it doesn't justify the man, the man must justify the title. If the titles are stripped, it'll just be another distraction, another excuse for them to play victim. Let them keep them. If they keep on with their ridiculousness, their titles will start to sound almost sarcastic. Nobody would be able to use them with a straight face.
@@ceeveekaye That's definitely another way to look at it and it makes sense. The more they get what they want, the more spoiled and entitled they seem. Even them insisting on using titles from an institution they claim tried to smear Meghan and was racist toward their son makes no sense.
@TheRundownYTC Yes, the racist royal family, the head of which still funds her clothing allowance if I'm not mistaken. She was given so much leeway once they were engaged, more than any other royal bride I can think of, more than any other royal bride would even dare to expect or ask for. It's like they were bending over backwards to accommodate her so they wouldn't be seen as prejudiced and it only emboldened her more so that when she was told no, she pitched a fit and claimed they were working against her. Nothing is ever good enough for narcissists. They're never satisfied, and that's how an actress who's virtually unknown can waltz in, marry a prince, and expect everyone to cater to her every demand and truly believe she deserves it. They have no empathy, they have no respect for boundaries. I think some of the royal family saw early on that this might not be a good match, but I think they underestimated how entitled she already was, much less once was married into the family and they were stuck with her.
@@TheRundownYTC As much as I think they've made a mockery of the titles given to them and as much as I do get your point and agree with the sentiment, another reason why I believe the titles should be left as they are is that instead of Meghan being the Duchess of Sussex, once the titles are stripped, Prince Harry will still be a prince of the realm. As long as they're married, not having those titles would make Meghan Princess Henry. I heard that from another source that I don't have any reason to doubt, but I'm not absolutely sure either so I could be wrong. But if it's true, I think that would be a bigger insult to the monarchy than her being a Duchess.
The main problem is that the King cannot take their peerage titles away. Only Parliament can. Likewise for the line of succession. This Parliament, just like the former one, doesn't seem to see it as a priority, considering the many challenges they are faced to. I suppose also that the legal issues involved are much more complicated than what the public think. It is unprecedented in time of peace. The last time it happened was in WW1 for their German relatives when the UK was at war with Germany. As for the Duke of Windsor, it is a completely different matter since he abdicated.
The king has brains. His mission is inter alia to preserve the unity of its people, not to fuel divisions. People don't remember how divided the public opinion was when the duo megxited. Since then, he has wisely ignore them like you ignore irrelevant people and has let them self-destroy their reputation on a global stage without getting publicly involved. I'm convinced he has the advice of constitutional experts on the matter.
As for the line of succession, it does not really matter. First, H. is only 5th in line. At some point the Wales children will have their own children, pushing him further down in the line. Then, Parliament has the last word about who is to reign. It is very doubtful they would accept a monarch living or brought up abroad.
There is a certainty: the king will not be pushed by social media, especially from abroad, to take a momentous decision that might have unforeseen effects on other members of the RF.
The easiest way would be to issue new letters of patent and do like some North-European monarchies did: exclude from the LOS any heir not living or brought up in the country. That might be the way for a newly anointed king William who might also choose to cut down the princes' title and keep them only for the direct heirs. Already in the previous generation, apart from the Prince of Wales, heir to the throne, only one opted to have titles for his children: Prince Andrew.
Just my reading of the situation, of course. None of us have inkling about what goes on behind the scene.
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Yeah, obviously. Everyone but Harry should have been stripped when they left the RF. Harry should have his stripped for his shenanigans
@@jorijoestar4998 And what outrageous shenanigans they were!
she is disqualified in every aspect
Daisy turned me off the whole thing.
Of course, this couple going around with their titles taking on weird roles and endeavours. They are not even staying in UK let alone in Sussex. Take the titles away!
The Queen gave optioned “Earl of Dumbarton”. Which is appropriate because of their conduct.
While I would agree and like the titles to be removed, it would actually b worse bc Harry would never loose his birthright as Prince and therefore by extension megain wd b titled Princess Henry and we KNOW she wd never use it that way and refer to herself as princess megain. So removing the duke and duchess titles would do ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD! And to b honest she has ruined the title so much it really has no mark, so let her have it…it is her mr. DeMille close-up moment.
That's a fair point you make. I see where you're coming from, I guess it's just frustrating to see those credits on the still from their Netflix series Polo with the titles. They seemingly know how to make themselves unlikeable
Agreed it is frustrating as I am sure for those of us that have had to deal with these types personally, it can be exhausting. And I am sure that the RF feels both.
For Haz'bin to lose the Royal Titles (Dukedom, Earldom & Baronage), it requires a lengthy and complicated process through the Parliament. However, according to the Deprivation of Titles Act, 1917 KCIII CAN initiate this process himself. His failure to act in the matter makes him appear to be a weak King as well as a weak father. He should also initiate the removal of his traitorous son from the Line of Succession and strip his Titular Dignity (ie Prince). Nothing less will satisfy the people!
Leave them with the one title she refuses to use. Duke and Duchess of Dumbarton because it has the word Dumb in it. I think theyve proven that one correct now. I feel sorry for the people of Dumbarton which I'm sure is a beautiful place.
Everyone thinks they should be stripped of titles
Hes no King
CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY...TITLES, LoS ETC MUST GO THROUGH PARLIAMENT....
You're right but in theory that could be done. They should do what they need to do to stop them monetizing their titles. But that's just my opinion. I understand others may not feel that way
@@TheRundownYTCthey won't those with peerage titles don't want to lose theirs.....
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Titles taken or left as-is, the more important question that needs to be addressed is the Line of Succession. Harry and his children can never serve in the "Top Job". Andrew either. The King not acting on that shows his decision was to "let someone else deal with that fiasco should it happen." The more he waits, the worse it looks.
This Katie Nichol really, more than the titles, are they royal?
I got a problem with the king not liking what's going off ?
Great broadcast again. Let's break this down through the filter of empiricism. Consider the abdicated former King and his Yankee wife in 1936. They were stripped of HRH and were demoted as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Both exiled from The Kingdom. Now then, even though it transpired that these two traitors ended up cavorting with Hitler as Nazi sympathisers during WW2, King George and, subsequently, Queen Elizabeth, did not strip their titles. And The Crown remained steadfast as such until Edward and Wallis both passed. It seems fair to say that the King will keep a similar stance as, to be honest, his second son is not that important in the grand scheme of things. Parliament on the other hand may indeed seek to strip Harry, his wife, (alleged) children, AND Prince Andrew of titles. I reckon King Charles would handily oblige lawmakers by granting his Royal Assent based upon his subjects' invocation. The swiftest justice would be both tumours excised in one fell swoop, then be done with it. Lastly, this great Constitutional Monarchy would willinging embrace Republicanism before those rat weasels get anywhere near the Line of Succession. Truly. Just my opinion. Thanks again for your thoughtful content.
Thank you for your insightful comment. It's greatly appreciated . I completely see your point. In the grand scheme of things Harry isn't actually important (in terms of the Monarchy) and yes perhaps the King is looking at what was done with Edward in not stripping the titles and hopes that time will bring more triumphs and of course challenges. The difference is that Harry and Meghan monetize their titles. They make money from them while trashing the monarchy. And of course it is hard to fully compare the two situations (like I'm doing now) because of the difference in era. In the 21st century people can monetize pretty much anything thanks to the internet.
@@TheRundownYTC Yes, thanks back for your comment. The difference between then and now is indeed Social Media. But as KC3's Great Grandfather assured: Adapt and survive. More will be revealed and we can watch it all unfurl together.
Edward retained his HRH, Wallis never had an HRH. Edward and Wallis were never formal exiled from the UK.
@@christinechandler5690You're right. He managed to keep it but with a stipulation that his wife and descendants, if any, shall not hold any title.
At least Edward didn't try to monetize it 😜
@@christinechandler5690 Well if one wants to match your hair-splitting pedantry I'll respond that I never typed that they were formally exiled, now did I? Other comment "corrections" you feel a burning desire to share with me? 🙄
To see any portion of MM’s lying trash interview with equally shameless Orka, is nothing but sickening at this point.
Penny, Charles doesn’t have the bottle to strip his “Darling Boy” of any title. He loves his son…it could cost him his crown IMHO. Thanks for your gr8 work.
I think you're right. He could fear losing him even more!
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While I see some merits in stripping them of their titles, it would have a short-term benefit and cause more problems for the RF. The duo would use it as a weapon to further portray the narrative that they were victimized and it would be a way to force the RF out of the _never complain, never explain_ protocol which they duly follow. That said, if the titles should ever be removed, it should have been HMLTQ who did it immediately so that the blowback would not spill over to KCIII's reign and PW's. The next best person or time to do so is now, during KCIII's reign, as PH's father, so the burden does not fall on PW.
Now, there is no way HMLTQ and other senior members have not discussed this thoroughly with Parliament and other necessary personnel involved. The Monarchy is too important to the British government to be sabotaged by the antics of the duo. It is my opinion that RF's strategy of grey-rocking the duo will pay off in the long run. They have begun to take small calculated steps in yearly periods: they already diminished their importance on the RF website, removing all fluff about both and only putting verifiable facts and putting them below P. Andrew (One I found interesting was the bio on Meghan being that she was an actress, did not see all the humanitarian fluff she had on her bio on the Sussex website), another was the removal of the statement PH released about the MM when he was still dating her. Further instances occurred when the British Ambassador to Nigeria released a statement that the duo were not representing the British government in any capacity. I am sure the Colombian government got the memo too. In short, grey-rocking is needed because the RF have to be careful of taking any rash steps as this can set a precedent for future instances (hopefully they do not happen).
Finally, I think the most important obvious, yet subtle reason the title should not be stripped is this: of what importance is a title if it is useless? If the holders are of no talent or are controversial themselves, or cannot command prestige, fame, respect, marketability, positive public sentiment, etc? The duo have nothing tangible or objectively successful to show for their exit from the RF in the last 5 years. America does not really care about them and Hollywood is done with them (Spotify, Netflix probably in 2025, Oprah and TP probably keep them around to market off them when an opportune time comes). I see the RF including the link to the Sussex website as saying "Here is what we can verify about the two, anything else, go to their website and find out yourself, and whatever association you have with them if you decide to, is at your own risk"
All in all, the issue of stripping them of their titles is something I am sure the RF and British government have had extensive talks over. We should just observe how it plays out.
"that RF's strategy of grey-rocking the duo will pay off in the long run" - I think you've hit the nail on the head with that one. Perhaps I am too impatient. You make great points in your comment so thank you for your insightful opinion. It's always nice to hear a nuanced answer. Great stuff. You are right about the titles now being useless and it only goes to show them as even more obnoxious than originally thought. The idea that they use those titles on their latest Netflix flop but insisting they want 'normalcy' for their kids is symbolic of their behaviour for the past 6/7 years.
Did Dane!s children keep their titles when Queen made changes
Princess Madelyn moved back to Sweden!!
Meghan did indeed state on the OW interview...In her own words, comparing Princess Catherine to herself, she said..."There is a difference between rude and racism" her words, MM said that...Then said that Archie will not get a title because of the colour of his skin, potentially?
If we wanna get real technical, there’s only one person we can really blame for giving them all these titles And privileges and it’s not Cowardly Charles.
Harry won't allow it
Perhaps Charles is worried that Harry could isolate himself even more!
Totally agree as I think most US royal watchers and UK citizens. However Charles is a weak man and a weak king, he can’t even have them removed from the royal website. He maybe respected for other things but as the head of his family and the monarchy he is not. What he or whoever advises him doesn’t seem to realize is that because of Harry’s jealousy and bitterness that he will not be a king, he will continue to compete and try to Sabotage William and by doing that he jeopardize the future of the monarchy in the UK. There are enough Republicans in the UK who will use Harry to devalue and demean William, with or without Meghan by his side. He will use his titles to that end. Unlike Andrew, Harry will refuse to retire quietly into obscurity. Charles has done nothing but to encourage the Sussex by basically doing nothing which has only encouraged them to take advantage of his doing nothing and doing their own version of half in and half out. It’s like a Hispanic telenovela that is on tv here . Or will it turn into a Greek or Shakespeare tragedy in time?
They should have done it in 2020
Absolutely spot on; HM the late Queen should have done it when they stepped down.
Excellent video with a succinct message as to precisely why these two need to have no further royal connection via these titles.
I agree that they base ALL OF THIS CONSTANT MEDIA on their titles alone. Harry being Diana son, forget Charles, is what he dines out on. They're both all about Diana imo. Absolutely strip the titles and force them to rely on themselves alone. The media around them both will quickly dry up once the dust has cleared.
That would be absolutely heavenly; no more daily stories on these two grifters.
Thanks for the comment. You're right, they would have nothing left and I imagine Netflix will drop them too. If they can't trade on their Royal connection, everything flops (we see this happening already)
King Charles can't remove Harold and Rachel's titles. Only the UK Government can do that. King Charles could however remove their HRH completely.
I trust King Charles ❤if he reacted according to how we feel and demand all the time he would have made alot of mistakes. So far he has dealt with the hackles pretty well. It might take a while but it's coming definitely.🇿🇲❤
That is a very valid point. I can understand that but I still think it's silly of Harry and Meghan to keep using their titles in the way that they do. When I saw the still from their Netflix polo only this month I couldn't believe they would use it under 'produced by'.
@@TheRundownYTC It just shows 'Hypocrite Harry' has earned his name.
If they strip them of their titles, Harry is still Prince .. and then Meghan becomes Princess .. the Crown won't want that ..
But doesn't he then become Prince Harold after taking away Sussex title?
Yes, he will always be a prince , I believe but imagine their Netflix shows
Produced by Prince Harry and... Meghan! 😂
Is Harry really Charles’s son? There was debate about this some time ago.
He looks just like KC