@Kat O We often forget that the gear is just the means to an end. We all, including myself, get to focused on how good the means are when trying to achieve the end. Music is about enjoyment and not "chase" to hear it.
One of Harry Weisfield's favorite speakers. Highly musical and easy to drive. Not a reviewers tool, but a music lovers dream. As Harry has noted many times, vinyl, tubes, and Tannoy is a combination made in heaven.
The original Tannoys are timeless designs, they are one of the great British designs, along with Spendor and Harbeth. Tannoys are very special with the dual concentric drivers. I developed and friendship with a hifi dealer in the UK back in the 90’s and he had just about every hi end speaker in his home you could name, including Revel, Thiel, Martin Logan and numerous other all hooked up to Martin Levinson huge monoblocks and front end, when he retired I visited him and his final speaker was a Tannoy from the 1970’s, he said there’s just nothing like them in the modern era. Sadly he passed away a few years ago but that always stuck with me.
Congratulations for Kat and Upscale audio to setup a true music lover’s room. Very well voiced, engaging, beautiful musicality. It’s really rare those days
Good single driver full range speakers have more Coherency in the mids than multi driver speakers usually. Vocals come across as more believable that is why they chose that music.
@@jaysaudiolab you did a fantastic job and next time just a kind suggestion, maybe try to give Kat a bit of a heads up or some kind of transition before filming her… she was obviously working on the turntable and looked surprised that someone was filming her out of the blue! :-0
I had the Prima Luna gear before upgrading to VAC. I absolutely loved Prima Luna but their soundstage was really small. If anyone wants Prima Luna Kevin at Upscale Audio had a tube rolling pack that made a massive difference when I bought it. I had some vintage stock tubes I put in from the 1960's in the prima luna and incredible difference. For the money their gear is top notch in that price range. They do not have the soundstage of more elite gear but of course much higher level pricing.
That doesn't always have to do with the brand, but the design choices they made. I have a VAC amp as well, but the design is completely different, and uses 300B tubes. I know Prima Luna uses EL34's, KT88's, 6550's, etc... Those type of amps just sound different. The VAC will definitely have a bigger, more open sound, but the PL should have more power and better overall control over the speaker.
@@Xx-xd3zo I have no problem using subjective terms, but I have no idea how to answer that one. Everyone is going to define musical differently. For example, the VAC isn't my main amp. I have it in a 2nd system. In my main system, I have 2 Ayre V-5's. If you ask me which is more musical, I would say Ayre is more musical in some ways, the VAC in others. And that's going by my personal definition of what musical means to me.
@@AT-wl9yq - Actually, most don't define musical differently. There's a sort of common, agreed upon concept of what musical is. Hence, the term gets used and semi-frequently. In what ways is the VAC more musical?
@@Xx-xd3zo "Actually, most don't define musical differently." If that's the case, then what's the definition? I can't give you an answer without what it is you're looking for.
Give that girl praise. She was setting up for a vinyl sound, from a digital sound, and you walked up and threw her off her game. I'm hoping that your next video is from what she was trying to show you. and we all get to hear it. Even with the digital input the system sounds fantastic.
Glad to see PL gear auditioned . I feel it is a brand that is too easily dismissed since its products are not stratospheric. Sure, being that they are budget conscience items, they cannot do the exact same things that a cost no object component can. However, I find they do have the parts and engineering where it counts. No Ghost Meters, fancy case work, here. Regardless I always found PL gear to be very musical and just plain fun to listen to.
@@David-ns1re Sadly, nope. So far, I have used the KT-88, KT-120, KT-150, and the stock EL-34. For what it's worth, if you go with KT-88s they will take on the character of the McIntosh 275 (Depending on the make of tube.) The KT 120 and KT 150 retube will start to give them the punch and bite of the ARC ref 80 stereo or M160.
I would really like your impression of the big Tannoy Westminster ? Especially if you like the smaller Tannoy. Does anybody even display them in North America ? Thanks
One slightly sad note to add is that Tannoy ain't British anymore. They shuttered their long-established Scottish factory a couple of years ago. Was a big blow to the local community (it was located just a couple of miles from where I live). Anyways, now made in Poland.
@@atla_craig I can't find any info anywhere about Tannoy being back manufacturing in Scotland. Can u point me to it? I would be very happy if it's the case.
Even the highest end, like Kensington drivers and crossovers made in China and screwed into cabinets in Scotland. C’mon Kat, you visited the ‘factory’ months ago. Didn’t you take any pictures??
In the 30 years I've been in audio I personally come to the conclusion that 5 to $10,000 All In gets a very nice sounding resolving system. At some point it becomes a little bit different flavors of sound. Not that it necessarily sounds better. So much of the sound quality is in the recording itself. JBL had a set up there where the tower speakers we're 1700. They sounded great. More proof.
Difference between Magico room and the Tannoy is musicality. Proof that good sound doesn’t require a mortgage refinance.
Amen to that
Triple amen to that. Never liked Magico.
Great point
@Kat O We often forget that the gear is just the means to an end. We all, including myself, get to focused on how good the means are when trying to achieve the end. Music is about enjoyment and not "chase" to hear it.
One of the Oldest speaker companies. Tannoy is best. The concentric driver was invented by them in 1947.
One of Harry Weisfield's favorite speakers. Highly musical and easy to drive. Not a reviewers tool, but a music lovers dream. As Harry has noted many times, vinyl, tubes, and Tannoy is a combination made in heaven.
Harry who?
@@REX4340 Of VPI I believe.
@@jaysullivan9545 You are correct sir.
They sound great with class A sugden gear...a21se and eatons here!😊
The original Tannoys are timeless designs, they are one of the great British designs, along with Spendor and Harbeth. Tannoys are very special with the dual concentric drivers. I developed and friendship with a hifi dealer in the UK back in the 90’s and he had just about every hi end speaker in his home you could name, including Revel, Thiel, Martin Logan and numerous other all hooked up to Martin Levinson huge monoblocks and front end, when he retired I visited him and his final speaker was a Tannoy from the 1970’s, he said there’s just nothing like them in the modern era. Sadly he passed away a few years ago but that always stuck with me.
Add the esl 57 to best brits ;)
Mark Levinson I believe . That said the 23.5 amp by Levinson was one of the best amp during the period .. and is even cherished now.
Congratulations for Kat and Upscale audio to setup a true music lover’s room. Very well voiced, engaging, beautiful musicality. It’s really rare those days
Where can I find Kate's channel?
@@Какяснималкино upscale audio channel
Say Hi to Kat. Analogue guru that lady.
Awesome sounding and beautiful old world styling.
I agree that was one of the better rooms at the show. That cut is one of my favorite singers.
I have a Primaluna dialogue HP amp. Love that amp.
This is real old school. Efficient speakers with low power tubes. So very different to Boulder and Wilson, et al. Interested in Jay's reaction.
Agree. True musicality always hits you emotionally. That’s what hifi should be
Upscale always Presents Well! Jay, The Flame is there!
Good single driver full range speakers have more Coherency in the mids than multi driver speakers usually. Vocals come across as more believable that is why they chose that music.
Wow, so clear & musical 👍
Beautiful voicing!
Nice video, Jay. I’m a big fan of Kat and this room definitely looks like a hit. Thanks for the post.
You bet!
@@jaysaudiolab you did a fantastic job and next time just a kind suggestion, maybe try to give Kat a bit of a heads up or some kind of transition before filming her… she was obviously working on the turntable and looked surprised that someone was filming her out of the blue! :-0
@@topkho , no way!!! This was so genuine
I had the Prima Luna gear before upgrading to VAC. I absolutely loved Prima Luna but their soundstage was really small. If anyone wants Prima Luna Kevin at Upscale Audio had a tube rolling pack that made a massive difference when I bought it. I had some vintage stock tubes I put in from the 1960's in the prima luna and incredible difference. For the money their gear is top notch in that price range. They do not have the soundstage of more elite gear but of course much higher level pricing.
That doesn't always have to do with the brand, but the design choices they made. I have a VAC amp as well, but the design is completely different, and uses 300B tubes. I know Prima Luna uses EL34's, KT88's, 6550's, etc... Those type of amps just sound different. The VAC will definitely have a bigger, more open sound, but the PL should have more power and better overall control over the speaker.
@@AT-wl9yq - Which would you say is more musical?
@@Xx-xd3zo I have no problem using subjective terms, but I have no idea how to answer that one. Everyone is going to define musical differently. For example, the VAC isn't my main amp. I have it in a 2nd system. In my main system, I have 2 Ayre V-5's. If you ask me which is more musical, I would say Ayre is more musical in some ways, the VAC in others. And that's going by my personal definition of what musical means to me.
@@AT-wl9yq - Actually, most don't define musical differently. There's a sort of common, agreed upon concept of what musical is. Hence, the term gets used and semi-frequently. In what ways is the VAC more musical?
@@Xx-xd3zo "Actually, most don't define musical differently."
If that's the case, then what's the definition? I can't give you an answer without what it is you're looking for.
Give that girl praise. She was setting up for a vinyl sound, from a digital sound, and you walked up and threw her off her game. I'm hoping that your next video is from what she was trying to show you. and we all get to hear it. Even with the digital input the system sounds fantastic.
Tannoys are special, so is Kat😍
Glad to see PL gear auditioned . I feel it is a brand that is too easily dismissed since its products are not stratospheric. Sure, being that they are budget conscience items, they cannot do the exact same things that a cost no object component can. However, I find they do have the parts and engineering where it counts. No Ghost Meters, fancy case work, here. Regardless I always found PL gear to be very musical and just plain fun to listen to.
ya best amp i ever owned for the money - have you tried the 6550 in them?
@@David-ns1re Sadly, nope. So far, I have used the KT-88, KT-120, KT-150, and the stock EL-34. For what it's worth, if you go with KT-88s they will take on the character of the McIntosh 275 (Depending on the make of tube.) The KT 120 and KT 150 retube will start to give them the punch and bite of the ARC ref 80 stereo or M160.
@@ridirefain6606 ya maybe no to the 6550, then. they have a lot of grip compared to the 34s
I really like the 120s for that clean punch too
Primaluna.... Dutch pride😊
I thought it was built in China
Sounds really good.
Tool on Tannoys? 😂Yeah, lemme headbang to "46 & 2" while sipping tea from my fine collectable china with the hand painted periwinkles on them.
I like Tannoy. Besides the tube amplifier, it is also a perfect match with the Accuphase's amplifier.
Very very nice ...and ..so hot 🔥 (these tubes ) congrats , nice gear and sound 🔊
Tannoys are the best! They developed the concentric driver in 1947. The Eatons are terrific speakers!
Jay, I see Tannoy in your future !
I would really like your impression of the big Tannoy Westminster ? Especially if you like the smaller Tannoy. Does anybody even display them in North America ? Thanks
Love their youtube channel btw
Jay, I did suggest you get the Tannoy Royal Kingdom speakers...
Yep
Was the presentation with or without subwoofer?
Dream system
Stop dreaming and plunk it down on ur credit card!
@@tonydeniro284 Hahha love it bro
What the heck, u only live once. I did it with the tannoy eatons and sudgen a21se...almost paid off now.
If you want your turntable set up right Kat is the person to talk to!!!
Kat is the best.
Kat knows how to set up a room. Bring the soul not the gear.
Can't wait to see a video with Kevin from UpScale and Jay...just talking gear.
that would be cool
Hmmm , very interesting!!!! These speakers may pair well with the 866. Wonder what the PL sounds like with “lower end” Wilson speakers?
By chance do you know what tannoy speakers they were??
Saxophone to die for …❤
Thanks for sharing Jay!
What Tannoy models are those ? Kensingtons ?
Couple I've been curious about for a while thanx, nice. They ain't afraid of a real song either. I just realized a female & she's under 50?
what is that model of tannoy?
What amplifier? Evo 300 hybrid?
Beautiful
Bottom end and mid range is where these speakers sound strong.
Loved Kat’s room. Yes on musicality! Would have loved to see the prima luna all tube rather than hybrid…
all tubes!
I've mentioned it before.. try a pair of Tannoy Canterbury's
never heard - would like to as well
One slightly sad note to add is that Tannoy ain't British anymore. They shuttered their long-established Scottish factory a couple of years ago. Was a big blow to the local community (it was located just a couple of miles from where I live). Anyways, now made in Poland.
Fyne Audio is making speakers in Scotland now, correct?
@@TheLarsonmanor Yes, absolutely. And not too far from the old Tannoy HQ.
True information, but not up to date. The Poland move proved to be temporary and Tannoy is now back in Scotland.
@@atla_craig I can't find any info anywhere about Tannoy being back manufacturing in Scotland. Can u point me to it? I would be very happy if it's the case.
Even the highest end, like Kensington drivers and crossovers made in China and screwed into cabinets in Scotland. C’mon Kat, you visited the ‘factory’ months ago. Didn’t you take any pictures??
Nice tone ..ya!? .. So rich sounding.
Love that she played tool!!!!
In the 30 years I've been in audio I personally come to the conclusion that 5 to $10,000 All In gets a very nice sounding resolving system. At some point it becomes a little bit different flavors of sound. Not that it necessarily sounds better. So much of the sound quality is in the recording itself. JBL had a set up there where the tower speakers we're 1700. They sounded great. More proof.
Very Good and affordable,...
Beautiful sound, and beautiful ,beautiful speakers , sadly completely unreachable in this life time🙈
Tannoy always give that extra flavor!
That tool song has a Holographic sound in it she put on at the end - it even sounds like it was recorded with a Bob Carver Sonic hologram Generator...
Need to take a look at the Fyne loudspeakers.
Sound the way they look...single speaker in a box.
song?
Wow that comes through warm and juicy.
Who is the vocalist?
greg porter
Beautiful set up, very pleasing to my ears. My only complaint would be is that look very dated.
What linestage are they running? I don't see it?
integrated
the fire emojis are for kat from upscale audio aren't they JAY 😂🤣🤣 .
For the money, good system. I still can hear Tannoy coloration, but the gestalt of the system is enjoyable. Good presentation.
You can hear coloration through your phone speakers? Wow
@@tonydeniro284 Yes.
Think Kevin would promote Manley Labs.
Same area, 12.3 miles, not made in China
dense and musical...
we know Kat!
Hey Jay, what Tannoy model are those speakers ?
Kensingtons
Am I only one hearing thick veil sound from speakers at 0:20? There is no veil at 2:43.
Where are they hiding the sub....
I wish they'd bring back the Yorkminsters
Those Tannoys sounded sweet. Thanks for getting the price Jay.
You bet
@@jaysaudiolab this is musical and engaging, can beat many systems at any price if you focus on the music, and not on the hifi fireworks
1st
These blow the doors off the big Wilsons if I can be honest
She's hot, she is audiophile😊
👍
He should try old Tannoy speakers
Pepper pot tweeters in those Kensingtons...
Lumin u2 must be impressive
Chocolate Chip Trip!
Maybe had a little something to help get you through the day?
Rock n roll
I make no comment about the sound, but that system looks ad-hoc and agricultural.
im an electrical engineer im sure i can build me something for my self with 40k budget
What is it with people and chewing gum whilst speaking it's so gross it's bad mannered and for her unprofessional.
Its do-able 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is Fyne Audio at the show this year? The speakers are the same design and are suppose to sound better than Tannoy 😉
Why stop there? There's a guy in the parking lot selling perfectly good "Tamoys" out of his van
They are not better than tannoy...just different...yes some of same designers...
@@tonydeniro284 exactly
Try all of the designers. Not a single engineer dedicated to Tannoy.😢
She has moves like Cat Woman
Sounds chinksky