Yes old but gold days I m started my satellite tv journey in 2003-04 with DVB & tracked many satellite & channels from arround the world... No internet on that time we find new channels daily
The first clip is from 7th Jan 1982. The rest of the vid is Mon 11th Jan 1982's show. Both were live. The Mon edition began with a bird feeder make, then this film about a satelitte aerial, a look at that year's appeal totaliser, then a film about pipelaying, followed by the under 13 cricket players back from Sri Lanka and finally a video clip of Mike Gatting-Sporting Bloopers. What it didn't feature was Peter's promised soup to warm your heart, although a Baked Bean Soup was made on 21st Jan.
and dont forget kids..to tune in around 1989 for the start of satellite tv. jan 7th 1982 was the start of a blizzard that dumped 18-20 ins of snow over eng & wales..by mon jan 11th the birdfeeder would be a 'dont forget to feed our feathered friends in the garden' type segment as it was below -3c from 7th -15th jan..got an extra week off junior school.
Thanks JR. You might remember that in 1989 Amstrad was Sky's first supplier of consumer receiving kit, the 199-pound package of dish + LNB + set-top box. But do you know who designed the tuner for that SRX100 box, to hit the magic price point? :)
@@midvodian Ha, I presume Stephen ? I wasn't sure, are you Stephen by the way ? If you are, and you made that tuner, then excellent, it makes perfect sense Amstrad looking to the innovator of home satellite TV to kick everything off. If you are Stephen, how did you know by the end of the decade normal people would have their own small home dishes ? I mean, this is before Sky even came to cable in 1984. I remember first getting satellite TV when I was 14 in 1991, and my dad got a 1.2 metre motorised dish, I remember being fairly interested in Filmnet, haha, I had to sneak down at night to record channels when my parents had gone to bed. I just loved going from satellite to satellite to see what was out there, especially newsfeeds, I was addicted to finding them. I loved the world of satellite. I still have satellite TV, but it seems it is more and more moving towards internet streamed channels, which takes the fun out of it. Even just blindscanning is a kick, haha.
@@JR-lg8sq - Embarrassing, watching that video again! No spooky prophecy though -- high-power DBS had been planned for Europe at the WARC conference in 1977, but planning was based on the assumption of technological mediocrity: the 'need' for high flux densities, combined with satellite power constraints, limited each nation to 5 channels in the 12GHz WARC plan. The MAC transmission format was hardly HDTV -- it offered little resolution advantage over PAL, and was far more expensive to implement in the receiver. We lobbied for a rogue 'DTH' system based on plain old analogue PAL via medium-power satellites in the fixed-satellite 11-GHz band, where we could fit 16 channels per satellite at power levels adequate for a 60cm dish. And by stacking satellites at the same nominal orbital station, channel count could be multiplied to 32, 48 and (with band extensions) beyond -- a far more attractive commercial proposition. The concept of Astra was born! The LNB shown in that video was actually my 11GHz (Ku-Band) unit, which I used for OTS, Sirio and (later) the ECS satellites, not the 4GHz one that delivered the Soviet, Middle Eastern and African channels (from Gorizont, Raduga and Intelsat) demonstrated to Simon. I have hours of video from those days (including newsfeeds and, yes, some FilmNet!), -- one day I'll get around to uploading a selection to UA-cam...
@@midvodian You came across really well on the video, you didn't dumb it down for the kids but explained in a very straight forward way that was easy to understand. What did your neighbours think about the size of the dish by the way ? I am impressed even now about the quality of the picture on that Russian broadcast. Did you then have to keep changing the LNB over then ? I have seen an early American adopter of home satellite, from 1981, a video by Ray Glasser & Kerry Decker on UA-cam (search "Kerry Decker TV Show: Satellite TV (1981)"). No idea who the satellite guy is as his name isn't mentioned but he seems very informed for 1981. The 60cm dish and magic price of under £200 was most definitely a winner, very very smart. Thanks for helping bring it to our homes. I used to live next to Goonhilly and would have loved to have one of those dishes at my house, haha. I remember way before I had satellite I would go there to Goonhilly and play with the smaller dish they had as we could rotate it to check different channels out. I still have some Filmnet VHS's somewhere too, they used to get passed around a lot with my mates at the time, ha, I used to record newsfeeds too but sadly I think I chucked the VHS's in my 20s, I think most feeds I saw came from Intelsat on our 1.2metre dish, so not as many of course as you could get on your bigger dish. You should definitely upload more of your videos, like newsfeeds and any other interviews you have done. You are the pioneer and God of the home satellite world.
The satelitte film had been shot on 10th and 11th Nov 1981, I'm guessing the delay before broadcasting was possibly to identify and get clearance for all the foreign TV clips they found and filmed.
i say only WOW! thank you for this special Video! to build a LNC our-self it is really unbelivable. What for a band is this? C-Band or KU? and where are you mixing the 1st I.F.? I see the filter bank on your external PCB (hahaha - super). Maybe anybody can answer. Thank you for answering. For the Arabic channel you need a band limitation filter on the I.F. side and a resynching the synchrons H & V. weakbit
Thank you weakbit. All feed system shots show the Ku-Band LNB. 'Filter bank' is UHF (450-950MHz) block 1st IF amp, quadrature balanced config. Wide-Band RX (here Soviet TV via Gorizont, C-Band) is 36MHz IF BW. Narrow-band RX (Saudi Arabia, also C-Band) uses variable-BW PLL demod which effectively filters from 18MHz down to 1MHz BW or less, enabling parts (sync, black, white) of the very weak video signal to reach FM threshold -- same technique I used with ATS-6 in 1975, and helped inspire US home-TVRO boom. Using a full-BW RX on these Intelsat C-Band half-transponder hemi-beam links with a 2.4m dish, CNR would be negative and unusable. The narrow-band RX reinserts locally-generated syncs (includes my logo at top left) so that threshold can be reached in grey-scale region of video. Sync can be offset to display blanking intervals (colour burst, sound-in-syncs, VITS) to aid identification. All the above IIRC after 40 years! -- Steve Edit: 2nd downconversion is in the indoor unit, both types, with 2nd IF (and demod) centred on 36MHz. The C-Band feed isn't shown here, despite Simon pretending to steer the dish onto the Arabian (4GHz) signal. :)
@@midvodian The shacking horizontal lines from the Arabic channel show me that no re-synchronization occur. But all this steps you made from the circulation back wards you made on the copper-tube is with the filter very good made this is a lot of work I see. You made it every day if you come home from work and cut the copper-tube and the then drill the holes and solder it hard for the hex-nut onto the top of the copper-tube and screw in some screws for the alignment on the filter (first tube in the middle). What I also can see there is a oscillator but is this the round one with the SMA plugs or the box on the back there is a oscillator and in the middle a mixer where you mix this signals from the antenna and the the oscillator that end up in a PCB with a 4stage amp (that what you're mentioned was it from 450-490MHz) [exact I see the 'L's that look like a snake for supplied this transistors] and on the end of the 4 stage I.F. amp is a BNC for fast connecting it to fix some issue during the build up (development) progress. Thank you for the answer. All the best! weakbit
Funny thing is, neither Sudan nor Saudi Arabia (1985) had satellite television until the mid to late 1980s. So how is he getting satellite from those countries? It makes sense on a flat earth though, as the size of those dishes are able to pick up broadcasts as far as 8-10,000 miles when pointed to terrestrial broadcast stations.
they mostly likely didn't have DBS satellites but they more than likely would have had relay satellites for sending feeds between ground transmitters or television stations
Oh god another flat earth idiot. Let me know when you can receive New York FM radio in Britain with your dish. After all the Atlantic Ocean between it is 'flat' right? You can NEVER receive terrestrial broadcasting from such a distance as you'd need a tower as high as... a *satellite*. Also, those terrestrial frequencies would have been used already by several other countries in between. He was receiving SATELLITE frequencies in the 12Ghz range. Tell me where the broadcast towers are that use that for terrestrial broadcasting, because no one has ever seen them.
Yes old but gold days I m started my satellite tv journey in 2003-04 with DVB & tracked many satellite & channels from arround the world... No internet on that time we find new channels daily
The first clip is from 7th Jan 1982. The rest of the vid is Mon 11th Jan 1982's show. Both were live. The Mon edition began with a bird feeder make, then this film about a satelitte aerial, a look at that year's appeal totaliser, then a film about pipelaying, followed by the under 13 cricket players back from Sri Lanka and finally a video clip of Mike Gatting-Sporting Bloopers. What it didn't feature was Peter's promised soup to warm your heart, although a Baked Bean Soup was made on 21st Jan.
and dont forget kids..to tune in around 1989 for the start of satellite tv.
jan 7th 1982 was the start of a blizzard that dumped 18-20 ins of snow over eng & wales..by mon jan 11th the birdfeeder would be a 'dont forget to feed our feathered friends in the garden' type segment as it was below -3c from 7th -15th jan..got an extra week off junior school.
I remember watching this back then
Wow, he was spot on, back end of that decade he said people would have small dishes, welcome Sky in 1989.
Thanks JR. You might remember that in 1989 Amstrad was Sky's first supplier of consumer receiving kit, the 199-pound package of dish + LNB + set-top box. But do you know who designed the tuner for that SRX100 box, to hit the magic price point? :)
@@midvodian Ha, I presume Stephen ? I wasn't sure, are you Stephen by the way ? If you are, and you made that tuner, then excellent, it makes perfect sense Amstrad looking to the innovator of home satellite TV to kick everything off. If you are Stephen, how did you know by the end of the decade normal people would have their own small home dishes ? I mean, this is before Sky even came to cable in 1984. I remember first getting satellite TV when I was 14 in 1991, and my dad got a 1.2 metre motorised dish, I remember being fairly interested in Filmnet, haha, I had to sneak down at night to record channels when my parents had gone to bed. I just loved going from satellite to satellite to see what was out there, especially newsfeeds, I was addicted to finding them. I loved the world of satellite. I still have satellite TV, but it seems it is more and more moving towards internet streamed channels, which takes the fun out of it. Even just blindscanning is a kick, haha.
@@JR-lg8sq - Embarrassing, watching that video again! No spooky prophecy though -- high-power DBS had been planned for Europe at the WARC conference in 1977, but planning was based on the assumption of technological mediocrity: the 'need' for high flux densities, combined with satellite power constraints, limited each nation to 5 channels in the 12GHz WARC plan. The MAC transmission format was hardly HDTV -- it offered little resolution advantage over PAL, and was far more expensive to implement in the receiver. We lobbied for a rogue 'DTH' system based on plain old analogue PAL via medium-power satellites in the fixed-satellite 11-GHz band, where we could fit 16 channels per satellite at power levels adequate for a 60cm dish. And by stacking satellites at the same nominal orbital station, channel count could be multiplied to 32, 48 and (with band extensions) beyond -- a far more attractive commercial proposition. The concept of Astra was born! The LNB shown in that video was actually my 11GHz (Ku-Band) unit, which I used for OTS, Sirio and (later) the ECS satellites, not the 4GHz one that delivered the Soviet, Middle Eastern and African channels (from Gorizont, Raduga and Intelsat) demonstrated to Simon. I have hours of video from those days (including newsfeeds and, yes, some FilmNet!), -- one day I'll get around to uploading a selection to UA-cam...
@@midvodian You came across really well on the video, you didn't dumb it down for the kids but explained in a very straight forward way that was easy to understand. What did your neighbours think about the size of the dish by the way ? I am impressed even now about the quality of the picture on that Russian broadcast. Did you then have to keep changing the LNB over then ? I have seen an early American adopter of home satellite, from 1981, a video by Ray Glasser & Kerry Decker on UA-cam (search "Kerry Decker TV Show: Satellite TV (1981)"). No idea who the satellite guy is as his name isn't mentioned but he seems very informed for 1981. The 60cm dish and magic price of under £200 was most definitely a winner, very very smart. Thanks for helping bring it to our homes. I used to live next to Goonhilly and would have loved to have one of those dishes at my house, haha. I remember way before I had satellite I would go there to Goonhilly and play with the smaller dish they had as we could rotate it to check different channels out. I still have some Filmnet VHS's somewhere too, they used to get passed around a lot with my mates at the time, ha, I used to record newsfeeds too but sadly I think I chucked the VHS's in my 20s, I think most feeds I saw came from Intelsat on our 1.2metre dish, so not as many of course as you could get on your bigger dish. You should definitely upload more of your videos, like newsfeeds and any other interviews you have done. You are the pioneer and God of the home satellite world.
@@midvodianAhh yes t he Amstrad bin lids!
In the year 1982 there in satlite transmition in saudi arabia and sudan.
Great video. Nostalgie... analogue tv, c band
The satelitte film had been shot on 10th and 11th Nov 1981, I'm guessing the delay before broadcasting was possibly to identify and get clearance for all the foreign TV clips they found and filmed.
Hey Steve, i wonder, do you still receive stuff with that dish or is it long gone?
i say only WOW! thank you for this special Video! to build a LNC our-self it is really unbelivable. What for a band is this? C-Band or KU? and where are you mixing the 1st I.F.? I see the filter bank on your external PCB (hahaha - super). Maybe anybody can answer. Thank you for answering. For the Arabic channel you need a band limitation filter on the I.F. side and a resynching the synchrons H & V. weakbit
Thank you weakbit. All feed system shots show the Ku-Band LNB. 'Filter bank' is UHF (450-950MHz) block 1st IF amp, quadrature balanced config. Wide-Band RX (here Soviet TV via Gorizont, C-Band) is 36MHz IF BW. Narrow-band RX (Saudi Arabia, also C-Band) uses variable-BW PLL demod which effectively filters from 18MHz down to 1MHz BW or less, enabling parts (sync, black, white) of the very weak video signal to reach FM threshold -- same technique I used with ATS-6 in 1975, and helped inspire US home-TVRO boom. Using a full-BW RX on these Intelsat C-Band half-transponder hemi-beam links with a 2.4m dish, CNR would be negative and unusable. The narrow-band RX reinserts locally-generated syncs (includes my logo at top left) so that threshold can be reached in grey-scale region of video. Sync can be offset to display blanking intervals (colour burst, sound-in-syncs, VITS) to aid identification. All the above IIRC after 40 years! -- Steve
Edit: 2nd downconversion is in the indoor unit, both types, with 2nd IF (and demod) centred on 36MHz. The C-Band feed isn't shown here, despite Simon pretending to steer the dish onto the Arabian (4GHz) signal. :)
@@midvodian The shacking horizontal lines from the Arabic channel show me that no re-synchronization occur. But all this steps you made from the circulation back wards you made on the copper-tube is with the filter very good made this is a lot of work I see. You made it every day if you come home from work and cut the copper-tube and the then drill the holes and solder it hard for the hex-nut onto the top of the copper-tube and screw in some screws for the alignment on the filter (first tube in the middle). What I also can see there is a oscillator but is this the round one with the SMA plugs or the box on the back there is a oscillator and in the middle a mixer where you mix this signals from the antenna and the the oscillator that end up in a PCB with a 4stage amp (that what you're mentioned was it from 450-490MHz) [exact I see the 'L's that look like a snake for supplied this transistors] and on the end of the 4 stage I.F. amp is a BNC for fast connecting it to fix some issue during the build up (development) progress. Thank you for the answer. All the best! weakbit
Little did they know, soon the "free" broadcasts would be scrambled and require a subscription or more expensive equipment to watch.
and as a a fact, you can watch Blue Peter from a satellite 😂
Funny thing is, neither Sudan nor Saudi Arabia (1985) had satellite television until the mid to late 1980s. So how is he getting satellite from those countries? It makes sense on a flat earth though, as the size of those dishes are able to pick up broadcasts as far as 8-10,000 miles when pointed to terrestrial broadcast stations.
they mostly likely didn't have DBS satellites but they more than likely would have had relay satellites for sending feeds between ground transmitters or television stations
@@1990chrism That's right
Oh god another flat earth idiot. Let me know when you can receive New York FM radio in Britain with your dish. After all the Atlantic Ocean between it is 'flat' right?
You can NEVER receive terrestrial broadcasting from such a distance as you'd need a tower as high as... a *satellite*.
Also, those terrestrial frequencies would have been used already by several other countries in between. He was receiving SATELLITE frequencies in the 12Ghz range. Tell me where the broadcast towers are that use that for terrestrial broadcasting, because no one has ever seen them.
Stay.
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