darktable ep 124 - Noobies guide to darktable 4.2.0 (pt 1 of 4)

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  • @danderth
    @danderth Рік тому +20

    I can't believe you're doing another noobie video series! I was just thinking this week, "boy, I'd love to see Bruce do another noob guide for this latest update, but he's done so many already; I can't imagine him wanting to do another one." But here you are, thanks so much. You see, I had gotten away from this for awhile, but just came back to it in the past week.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +7

      I try to refresh it when the need arises!

    • @michael-mvtd
      @michael-mvtd Рік тому +1

      @@audio2u I'm also glad to see a new intro series b/c I too am coming back to DT but it has changed alot over the last few years. Have some of your older videos lost relevance with time and maybe need culling or updates? (in case you needed ideas for future videos 😜) Or maybe a video for noobs advising which modules to learn first and which to add as experience is gained.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +4

      Yeah, an updated "(x number of) modules a noobie should get familiar with" video is in the works. And when I say "in the works", I have a roadmap laid out for the next 10 videos or so. It'll be in there somewhere.

  • @bernym4047
    @bernym4047 Рік тому +4

    I recently started watching a review of a new tripod. No exaggeration, it took five minutes to get into the meat of the video after telling us about today's shop, his dog's illness etc. Your videos get straight into it, no wasted chat, absolute solid gold facts. I've been using dt for about 3 or 4 years but it's never wasted time checking out your productions. Thanks.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      Thank you. That's why if I DO want to share something which is off-topic, I always leave it until AFTER the content you came for. :)
      It frustrates the living bejeesus outta me when other creators waste so much of their viewer's time on stuff which is completely irrelevant.
      As much as I love his video production style, Peter McKinnon is a shocking offender on this front.

  • @tyik
    @tyik Рік тому +1

    I did follow you few years ago for DT. However i gave up b/c I couldn't get good result. Now there are so many changes to DT and many new tutorials from various speakers. I still find yours is precise and straight to the point. I am hoping this time i could get more out of DT. Thank you Bruce.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Glad to hear you're giving it another go!

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart Рік тому +3

    Thanks so much Bruce. I’ve been taking photographs since the Sixties one way or another - on film. iPhones apart, I’ve made a quantum leap into digital photography with a Lumix M4/3 body and my old Pentax lenses. I’m also very much into b&w. I’m intrigued by darktable and am looking forward to a new journey, albeit at 78!✌️

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Welcome aboard, Markie!

  • @telebruce221
    @telebruce221 Рік тому +2

    Thank you Bruce! This will be very helpful to new users. I am not, but still need some reminders once in a while. - Bruce

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Thanks Bruce! Mind if I call you Michael to save the confusion? :)

    • @telebruce221
      @telebruce221 Рік тому +1

      @@audio2u Michael wouldn't fit. Dammit works. At least that what my dad always called me. Sometimes it was my first name.....sometimes my last name....I never knew. But I did learn to answer immediately...
      Mechem works too!

  • @jrnine
    @jrnine Рік тому +1

    Hello Bruce and the rest,
    this series (and many many tipps of my friend ecky) helped me to get fast results on my raws.
    Also, when i want to go deeper (masks etc), i always come back to this series.
    darktable is not self explaining, but with the community and series like this, its getting way more easier for a beginner,
    and i am still one.
    greets from germany too all beginners!!

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Great stuff, Jörn! I'm glad you've found my videos helpful.

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI Рік тому +2

    Thank you for making the series. I have been eagerly waiting for it 🤩

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @billbromer
    @billbromer Рік тому +1

    Thanks, just getting started with photo editing so this is very helpful.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Glad to hear it! 😃

  • @alanworland9478
    @alanworland9478 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, I am still using the previous version and have only just scratched the surface but am most impressed with what I have 'discovered'! I find the available tools quite mind blowing and guess I will only be using a small amount of them. Looking forward to the next release!

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, darktable is quite the rabbit hole once you start investigating what it can do!

  • @bryanwelch766
    @bryanwelch766 Рік тому +1

    This is an excellent series. Thank you for making these!

  • @danport222
    @danport222 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Bruce!. I picked up photography about 6 months ago and have been using Darktable since the beginning thanks to you. I knew I didn't want to pay the Adobe subscription so the choice came down to which free software had the best community and support.
    My latest breakthrough was learning how to use the mask manager to intersect masks which I mostly use to apply a gradient to a drawn mask. Also, Affinity Photo 2 can do focus stacking, HDR, and pano stitching in the free version. It's 100x easier to use than other tools like Hugin.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, although I bought affinity photo, I don't spend nearly enough time using it! I need to change that.

  • @oldtowneast
    @oldtowneast Рік тому +1

    You are my hero!

  • @drendelous
    @drendelous Рік тому +1

    it is a blessing 🌻🌻

  • @signedelacroix7213
    @signedelacroix7213 Рік тому +1

    Excellent, because it's a recent video on the newest version.
    Also DT does not import pictures in folders on the date they were taken, wish is troubling. But there is a way to do it, you should make a video on it.

  • @JohnTruesdell-s7s
    @JohnTruesdell-s7s 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey Bruce, thanks for the great videos! I’m not quite understanding why I would want to use Copy & Import vs Add To Library. Maybe I’m missing something in your explanation. Do you have an example/s of why a project photographer would use the option to get their images into Darktable?

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  10 місяців тому

      OK, so you would use "add to library" if the images are already in the folder where they are always going to live. You're saying to darktable "these images live in this folder, and I want you to add them to my library of all images".
      But you use "copy and import" when the images are not in their final destination yet (like when they are on a memory card which you've mounted to your system temporarily). In this instance you're saying to darktable "These images need to be copied to my internal hard drive so I always have them, even after I have removed this memorry card from the USB port".
      Make sense?

  • @MichealSeaghdha
    @MichealSeaghdha Рік тому +1

    My sincere thanks to you for going through all this once again. If I say so myself, I'm usually pretty good at post processing, but this program remains one of the most intricate and awkward raw converters I've ever encountered. I've spent some time on it over the past couple of days but still can't even find the zoom/magnify button!
    At present, I find the colour adjustments in particular to be incredibly slow and long-winded, and so I'm hoping one of your other tutorials will make things a little easier for me. To be honest, I find any similarities to Lightroom to be purely coincidental because that program follows a simple, logical sequence and its user interface is second to none. Unfortunately my ancient version 5.7 is finally no longer fit for purpose with the output from a Lumix S5 camera. So I hope Darktable will eventually fill the void. If not, I'll simply convert all my RW2 files to DNGs and go back to old faithful. But anyway, keep up the good work!

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words, Michael.
      Zoom is done with your mouse wheel. If you're on a Mac, or have some other pointing device which lacks a scroll wheel, I'm not sure what the alternative is. There's probably a keyboard shortcut for that scenario.
      As for similarities with, or differences from, lightroom, I can only point you towards the developers, who have long maintained that the intent with darktable is for users to dig a little deeper with their understanding of colour science. That's WHY things are not as simple in dt as they are in LR. Lightroom has dumbed everything down.
      And before you shoot me, I'm just the messenger! I'm not saying I agree with the design intent, or with the execution. I just accept that that is how it is. Nor do I claim to understand it all, either!! There are still gaps in my knowledge, and I try to be upfront with those gaps as I come across them.
      All I can suggest is... stick with it. It might feel awkward for a little while (took me a couple of months back when I started before I started to feel comfortable with it), but it does get easier as the muscle memory kicks in! :)

    • @MichealSeaghdha
      @MichealSeaghdha Рік тому +1

      @@audio2uThank you for replying Bruce. I don't have a mouse wheel, but I'll keep looking for a way of zooming in on my Windows laptop, because for one thing I can't assess sharpness without it on a 13" screen. I can see there are a few alternative ways of modifying colours and I'll try to find the one that best suits my needs. Yesterday I did create a colour profile for the new Lumix S5 by ColorChecker, but have only applied it in Lightroom so far. It helps to have an attractive starting point, but the initial colour rendition on these Panasonic files is not something I particularly enjoy in Darktable. Anyway, I do have time on my hands so will persevere as you suggest.

  • @skfirojali2429
    @skfirojali2429 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video ❤

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  10 місяців тому

      Thank you!!

  • @matthieugraveleau
    @matthieugraveleau Рік тому +2

    Thanks, definitely a wonderful resource for new user. As a long term user I would love to see a video or even just a list of what module to use in which cases. As a lot of things can be achieved using different modules (some of which are obsolete) I would love to know what is the recommended way. Any clue where I can find that?

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      I did a video along those lines a couple of years ago, but it's probably time to revisit that.
      In the meantime, check out the video about display-referred vs scene-referred editing.

    • @matthieugraveleau
      @matthieugraveleau Рік тому +1

      @@audio2u Thanks Bruce! I did check it (like all your videos :) ). It did help but I'm still a little confused. Especially by the overlap of some of the new modules with previous ones. Maybe it is just me being a little thick ^^

  • @drendelous
    @drendelous Рік тому +1

    10:23 Bruce, do not ever excuse for your dog. or any dog 🔆

  • @t4concepts
    @t4concepts Рік тому +1

    Hi Bruce ; )
    I'm so tired of Windows .................... I'm moving to Linux! Thus far, I've been enjoying your tutorials ( still have many to look through ). I have a question for you ..............
    As I'll be ditching Windows I'm taking the opportunity of moving my entire photo library ( 28,000 + images ) and ( video files ) to a larger drive. I've been using Adobe Lightroom 6 Classic, the last of the bought and paid for versions! ( I like to 'own' my software! ).
    As 'Importing' my entire image library is doable ...................... what will happen to my Video files?
    As most digital cameras now days have the ability of recording video, do these files get imported into your image library ( catalogue ), or do they not get important as the file type may not be recognised?
    Many thanks thanks in advance Bruce, and now back to your tutorials, and a subscription to your channel ! ; )
    TURK

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Turk, thanks for the kind words. Even though dt supports video files, I've never imported one, so cannot comment on the functionality! I imagine that if you have your videos in some sort of organised folder structure, you should be able to simply go "add to library" the same as you would for photos. That's my guess, anyway.

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI Рік тому +1

    I've not seen the other videos so far so if you already added this information at a later point never mind:
    1) Adding colour and stars to the images were done by hotkeys. My first though was which key that might be. A short note for the buttons at the bottom could help. Yes, it's pretty obvious, but you can already test the features and play around with them
    2) Same for tags. The image was already tagged. But how would you add them?
    My guess is that you will add these information at some later point anyway, but it would have been a nice segway to the feature.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      The trouble with making a mini-series like this set of 4 videos is balancing what is too much info and what is too little!
      The curse for the creator (me) is you can never please everybody! Some will say "you didn't go deep enough", and some will say "I was overwhelmed by it all".
      Colour labels can be assigned with F1 through F5.
      Star ratings through 1-5 above your QWERT keys.
      Funny, I thought I'd mentioned that in the video.
      If I didn't give you enough on creating tags, search my channel for the video on tagging. I know I covered it there, and it is still relevant info.

  • @DalsPhotography
    @DalsPhotography Рік тому +1

    Dear Bruce, Do you have any video or any instructions to understand preferences? I can't understand why we are working in Jpgs vs Raws? Also I would like to understand what is LUA.... thank you and best from Uruguay :)

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      I'm not sure where you got the idea that we should be working in jpeg instead of RAW. I shoot in raw all the time! And while dt will process jpeg files, it's real strength is in what it can do with RAW data.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      As for preferences, there is a lot in there! And the problem is, it changes with every release! The category headings should give you a rough idea of what to expect in each page of the preferences. And for most of it, you'll work it out fairly quickly if you give it some thought! Admittedly, some are a bit esoteric and not immediately obvious though.
      No, I don't have a video on preferences specifically.

  • @cosmo0080
    @cosmo0080 Рік тому +1

    thank you i do need this

  • @robertleeimages
    @robertleeimages Рік тому +1

    Coming over from Canon DPP4, hoping to get that bit more out of my milky way images compared to what i currently get out of DPP4 before then stacking in sequator

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      Welcome to the dark side! :)

  • @richardhayes7812
    @richardhayes7812 Рік тому +1

    Hi Bruce, ive been following your videos on Darktable (reslly great) but printing seems to be a big mystery. If i tske up darktable how can i print my photos, either on my my own canon bog standard or by sending to a lab. Best regards Richard

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      If you're on windows, you're SOOL. Printing isn't supported on the windoze version of darktable. This is due to a piece of code which darktable uses for printing, and that code isn't supported by windoze.

    • @richardhayes7812
      @richardhayes7812 Рік тому +1

      @@audio2u thank you for your reply. Would it be possible to include some remarks in one of your future noobie videos on printing from DT as a windoze user. Best regards, Richard.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      No need to wait for a video. I'd suggest do all of your development in darktable (because of its superior colour handling), export as a .tiff, and print from any other windoze-based, colour-managed software.
      Not the perfect solution, I realise, but sadly, the only option for dt users on that platform.

  • @larryglatt2548
    @larryglatt2548 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your series of videos. Question: will this do batch processing of copyright & if so is that in your videos. Thank you. Not lazy, just autistic.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      When you say "batch processing of copyright", do you mean "add copyright info to my images"? If so, yes, you can do that in darktable. To be honest, I can't remember if I've covered that in a video or not.
      In lighttable view, select one image (or a series of images), select the "Metadata" module on the right side, fill in the appropriate fields, and click the button which says "Apply".

    • @larryglatt2548
      @larryglatt2548 Рік тому +1

      @@audio2u Thank you for your quick informative reply. Yes, batch processing of the copyright & for that matter any other Metadata. I would love to see that & will finish watching your videos. Thank you, Larry

  • @ingograntsau1922
    @ingograntsau1922 Рік тому +2

    Hi! Just to inform you, the Windows version still doesn't have the "print" function.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      I already knew that.
      That's not likely to change any time soon.
      darktable uses something called CUPS for its printing function, but that is not compatible with windoze.
      :(

  • @euanclouston1841
    @euanclouston1841 4 місяці тому +1

    I have found an issue I can not see a way out of. I have gone to a pop concert 6 to 10 bands a day 300 to 600 photo's a band. Day 1 fill card, darktable no problems. Day 2 empty card go and fill card again, darktable can not see any photos. Does Darktable have a photo limit? I found a folder limit I increased. Any ideas?

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  4 місяці тому

      No, there should be no limit to the number of photos per folder, as far as I'm aware.
      When you say you "emptied" the card, did you format the card, or just use your operating systems file manager to delete the images?

    • @euanclouston1841
      @euanclouston1841 4 місяці тому +1

      @@audio2u I format it in camera.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  4 місяці тому

      That's really odd. I can see no reason why darktable would not see or import the day 2 photos. Are you able to view those images in-camera?

    • @euanclouston1841
      @euanclouston1841 4 місяці тому +1

      @@audio2u For your info. It was my fault my drive memory was full. But I was a bit surprised Darktable didn't say this. It's even worse to download to a full drive. Thanks for the help.

  • @azimages2538
    @azimages2538 Рік тому +1

    New to this software so found this very very useful- however I am having one major issue. When importing images- it does not take me to my external drives!? no idea what is wrong. Anyone help me here?

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Assuming you are on a version later than 3.8, the import dialogue offers you 2 choices: "add to library" or "copy and import".
      Add to library will assume that the images are already located where you want them, and that you simply want darktable to be aware of them from that location.
      Copy and import assumes the images are not in a permanent location (like maybe you mounted a memory card in a USB card reader) and that you wish to copy them to another location and have darktable remember those images in that new location.

    • @azimages2538
      @azimages2538 Рік тому +1

      @@audio2u Hi Bruce- I am on version 4.2.1. I just downloaded it yesterday. But when I go to import the photos I cant get to my Hard Drives where my photos are. Not sure why I cant go to other drives- the option is not there at all.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Which OS?

  • @lionhawk555
    @lionhawk555 Рік тому +2

    I was concerned when I heard you say that you were going to assume a newbie is mostly someone coming from lightroom or the like, as I have a niece whom I'm just about to introduce to darktable who has no such background. I'm glad to say, having watched the video, that you don't require prior knowledge. Good job.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому

      Thanks! I hope she embraces darktable... It's an incredible piece of software once you wrap your head around it!

  • @svendiversen847
    @svendiversen847 Рік тому +1

    Great video 👍, but you really should change the title to Newbies guide. Noobies, mostly know as Noobs, usually don't care about learning new stuff.

    • @audio2u
      @audio2u  Рік тому +1

      Fair enough! Although, I'm sure most people will understand my intent (with the title). Those who want to learn will watch, those who don't will probably go back to Lightroom! 😃