As a mechanic that has worked on 82-70s for 3 years I’ve pulled atleast 100 pits to change carpets and repair bounce boards hell if he didn’t have to redo the mount bracket or front roller retainers he had it easy
Work on 82-70's every day. It can be challenging some days. Yesterday I changed a yoke. It was broken in 2 places. Thanks constant reset button people. 😆
@@blazedtireiron9808 Some of my yokes have got 4 and 5 welds. Even boxed in a few of them to make them stronger. I got a guy that really does good work.
Others have said these things but just to keep it simple... ALL models of Brunswick machines are called "pinsetters". ALL models of AMF & AMF/Qubica machines are called "pinspotters". And the part he calls a conveyor belt is called a "carpet"... which I've changed many of without removing the cushion assembly... you just do it from the front of the machine. I hope this clears a few things up... And I'm glad I didn't have to see Mike Rowe rip a**...
I just bought two 82-30s for $500 each the other day. Mustang Lanes in Monroe Iowa was closing shop. I'm putting them in the 2nd floor of one of my barns.
"Pin boys" set the pins. Mechanics fix the machines. Would only be a "pin boy" during league play when the pins might need to be set up for a particular shot if for some reason the machine sweeps them down or something.
4 years on, this once pinchaser is now in line for B mechanic, hopefully, if I work hard enough... :) and now am working on 8270s as a second job. I've been working on GSX for the past 4 years. Love it! Even gave up my master's in neuroscience to do this job.
Do they still make parts for this old machines, or is there a wizard on a lathe/mill in the background at bowling alleys that make copies of the broken pieces to get them running again?
Oh I hated that job. Also pit bounce plate replacements. I'd always find broken welds on the roller supports. So they'd have to come out too. Four hours minimum.
They were only half way through the service. It's typical to simply slice a carpet in two and remove it the easy way if your objective is simply to bin it anyway.
These AMF machines are pretty cool. I used to work at a 16 lane house back in California. We had Brunswick A-2's First machine I learned how to work on. And yeah if you don't know your way around these machines, it's pretty easy to get lost. Is this an AMF 82-90 or 82-30?
82-70 they are a pain to work on sometimes. He took way to long to remove that kickboard...not that hard. Carpet now is a whole other story! Thats where the pain will begin.
a couple things. 1 mike rowe, nice to see you doing something I love. 2 WTF is with all the wiring sticking out of the pit motor? and 3 anyone who has been working on these things for a day or two would already know the cushion block on the outter end of the pair of lanes is easier to remove the cushion than the one with the shock next to it. Mike, I think they put you on for that one.
Osha in a small 8 lane house. I worked at 40 lane house and never even heard of Osha. We never even wore ear plugs. Now this was 15 years ago and I guess could have changed at the 40 but not at the 8 lane house. Osha only cares for big companies that where the money at...lol
i don't like ear plugs. I cant listen with them on. hence ear plugs. I can think of a few things I could use them for. but back-ends, nope. back to the wires. weather they work or not, (just sayin) it looks sketchy. my boss would flip if they were like this. hard to tell, but is that westinghouse?
The wires hanging out of the motor head go to the aftermarket solid state start switch from bowl tronics. The switch eliminates the internal centrifugal mechanism. They come with velco to attach them to the outside of the motor windings, but it's not the highest quality and never holds up. And as for pulling the Cushion out on the B.D. side of the machine instead of the O.B.D. At a center as old and high lineage as that one. The weld nuts for the O.B.D. side cushion box normally have snapped off by now. And you need a open end wrench welded to a 2ft piece of steel to hold the nut. And if they haven't broke off, there's no need to stress them out more by constantly torquing on them. So it makes more sense to pull the bolts out of the B.D. side of the machine. Anyone who's worked at a high lineage center knows that.
The camera crew don't need to if they don't want to. they can place the camera its self on the pindeck and operate it remotely, I think we have the technology to do that, so you can have the sweep down in first guard w/o worry of crushing/squishing/pining a camera man down.
lets see thats a 82-70, so the power is @ the front of the machine. I'll lay odds that there was a 2nd mechanic off screen that did the LOTO (Lock Out Tag Out for those who don't know the lingo).
I always pull my cushions. It takes less than 5 minutes and gives me so more much room for pulling the front roller support hinges, tightening down the A-frame, and anything else that needs to be done when you do a pit. Takes less time than hauling a carpet and bounce board around to the front of the machine lol.
no1froggy yeah man, have a great time putting your bounce plate wrapped in a carpet back under the pit cushion. 😂😂 i prefer to have room while doing a carpet replacement.
Joshua Huson right!!! who wants to walk down a center cap with a bounce plate and carpet ?? the only thing i might do differently than everyone else is not removing the paddle to push the front roller through. i just cut the bad carpet and pull it out, and put the front roller through the back of the pinwheel
Aww.... come on Mike,... I can do two of these carpets a day... Wait till you get one of these when the nut holding the rubber mount for the bounce plate strips and just spins.. and on an odd side machine at that....
@@VinylToVideo to replace a carpet takes over 2 hours if everything goes perfectly, which it never does, on top of other maintinence and calls 2 is the most you could do in a day if the house is super dead
why are they doing it ass backwards the carpet and bounce board can be removed from the front of the lane release front roller remove 4 nuts remove carpet and bounce board
lol yea sweep down! ive seen mechanics do some stupid things to put themselves at risk and one of them paid for it with his life. a ball will do serious damage. plus i do this without removing the cushion like no1froggy said.
@izzynutz2000 : only 2 ? I repair 4 of this cushion in 8 houres and i must must regrett te A2 from Brunwick looks good but I see the ball killer in aktion, thanks no
As a mechanic that has worked on 82-70s for 3 years I’ve pulled atleast 100 pits to change carpets and repair bounce boards hell if he didn’t have to redo the mount bracket or front roller retainers he had it easy
I have worked on AMF and some Brunswick machines since late 1980 and I still enjoy replacing AMF carpets and bounce plates.
Work on 82-70's every day. It can be challenging some days. Yesterday I changed a yoke. It was broken in 2 places. Thanks constant reset button people. 😆
One break you can get away with a repair kit, 2 breaks, good idear to replace em.
I used to go to my local shipyard and get them re-welded.
@@liquidsonly Yeah I got a guy who welds them up for me. He does take his time but it's not his primary work, plus he is good.
@@blazedtireiron9808 Some of my yokes have got 4 and 5 welds. Even boxed in a few of them to make them stronger. I got a guy that really does good work.
@@DuruConsigliere There’s nowhere around where Im that can weld aluminum, So I’m stuck at the replacing them or using a repair kit
That was funny! I've been there and done that more times then I care to remember!
Too bad this didn't include the next segment, where Mike rips ass.
I saw this whole episode when it originally aired, and I laughed my ass off then.
I saw that segment 🤣 Mike was cutting em hard
HAHAHAHA NICE
Others have said these things but just to keep it simple... ALL models of Brunswick machines are called "pinsetters". ALL models of AMF & AMF/Qubica machines are called "pinspotters". And the part he calls a conveyor belt is called a "carpet"... which I've changed many of without removing the cushion assembly... you just do it from the front of the machine. I hope this clears a few things up... And I'm glad I didn't have to see Mike Rowe rip a**...
I did this for a couple years. Same machine I worked on too. AMF 82-70
Why didn't you record the whole episode?
If I ever win the lotto and attain the dream of a 2 lane bowling alley in my basement, it will have Brunswick GTX spotters.
Zoomer30 I would want a pair of 82-30’s and 82-70’s! Only because I have worked on them for so long and I find way too much joy on fixing them hahaha
I just bought two 82-30s for $500 each the other day. Mustang Lanes in Monroe Iowa was closing shop. I'm putting them in the 2nd floor of one of my barns.
This is my home bowling center. its called cloverleaf family bowl
Sucks that it closed :(
I just got hired for a pinsetter tech...so totally stoked
lmao he finds a big name like "pinsetter tech" for the actual term "pin boy"
"Pin boys" set the pins. Mechanics fix the machines. Would only be a "pin boy" during league play when the pins might need to be set up for a particular shot if for some reason the machine sweeps them down or something.
IRONMAIDENFANATIC89 Did you like the job?
4 years on, this once pinchaser is now in line for B mechanic, hopefully, if I work hard enough... :) and now am working on 8270s as a second job. I've been working on GSX for the past 4 years. Love it! Even gave up my master's in neuroscience to do this job.
If i could afford it, i would definitely take a pinsetter tech job for half what i make now only because i love all aspects of bowling
Each machine is always different from the other, you never know when you’re gonna find something that turns a 30 minute job into a 2 hour lol😂
please post more of this
I was a pinchaser for 3 years
Do they still make parts for this old machines, or is there a wizard on a lathe/mill in the background at bowling alleys that make copies of the broken pieces to get them running again?
No kidding, we had a lathe in the old 82-30 house I worked in back in '04. The lathe was also made by AMF :D
@@SexycuteStudios lucky you. I always ordered from the catalogs
They still do 8 years later
Oh I hated that job. Also pit bounce plate replacements. I'd always find broken welds on the roller supports. So they'd have to come out too. Four hours minimum.
Should have went to a duckpin alley, MIKE!
FAKE...for it to be real there would be bowlers on the lanes on either side
the pinsetter was a paid actor
They were only half way through the service. It's typical to simply slice a carpet in two and remove it the easy way if your objective is simply to bin it anyway.
These AMF machines are pretty cool. I used to work at a 16 lane house back in California. We had Brunswick A-2's First machine I learned how to work on. And yeah if you don't know your way around these machines, it's pretty easy to get lost. Is this an AMF 82-90 or 82-30?
82-70, unfortunately they closed down cause lockdown killed em. Cloverleaf family bowl up in Fremont CA.
Good thing “we”, our bowling center upgraded to the Brunswick GSX, but will never understand why the Qubica software😝
Larry Caberto i love working on gsx machines. Lot easier
Brunswick pinsetters suck.
@@vittoriostoraro they don't. I've bowled on them and I had zero issues. I had many problems with AMF's from my experience.
You have to become one with the machine.
Fixing a pinspotter is not an easy thing!!
82-70 they are a pain to work on sometimes. He took way to long to remove that kickboard...not that hard. Carpet now is a whole other story! Thats where the pain will begin.
You said it that's why I like working on the a-2 models
+alex anderson Yep, only one tool you need for working on A-2s....... A HAMMER
William Rumley is there something I missed? Because a hammer is almost never needed
AMF= Always Means Fun! Right, Mike?
82-30 are easy to work with but I rather stick to my A2s
Aquaman: MY MAN!
Awesome usful video
What is the job responsibility of bowling technician
Cleaning and Maintaining the Pinsetters, it will save you from too many breakdowns
a couple things. 1 mike rowe, nice to see you doing something I love. 2 WTF is with all the wiring sticking out of the pit motor? and 3 anyone who has been working on these things for a day or two would already know the cushion block on the outter end of the pair of lanes is easier to remove the cushion than the one with the shock next to it. Mike, I think they put you on for that one.
Where I worked the pit motors were the same way. The knock off switch was removed and straight wired!
wouldn't osha have a problem with that?
Osha in a small 8 lane house. I worked at 40 lane house and never even heard of Osha. We never even wore ear plugs. Now this was 15 years ago and I guess could have changed at the 40 but not at the 8 lane house. Osha only cares for big companies that where the money at...lol
i don't like ear plugs. I cant listen with them on. hence ear plugs. I can think of a few things I could use them for. but back-ends, nope. back to the wires. weather they work or not, (just sayin) it looks sketchy. my boss would flip if they were like this. hard to tell, but is that westinghouse?
The wires hanging out of the motor head go to the aftermarket solid state start switch from bowl tronics. The switch eliminates the internal centrifugal mechanism. They come with velco to attach them to the outside of the motor windings, but it's not the highest quality and never holds up. And as for pulling the Cushion out on the B.D. side of the machine instead of the O.B.D. At a center as old and high lineage as that one. The weld nuts for the O.B.D. side cushion box normally have snapped off by now. And you need a open end wrench welded to a 2ft piece of steel to hold the nut. And if they haven't broke off, there's no need to stress them out more by constantly torquing on them. So it makes more sense to pull the bolts out of the B.D. side of the machine. Anyone who's worked at a high lineage center knows that.
am I the only one wondering why the rollers and bounce board are in without the carpet at the end of the clip?
This alley is now permanently closed ...
The camera crew don't need to if they don't want to. they can place the camera its self on the pindeck and operate it remotely, I think we have the technology to do that, so you can have the sweep down in first guard w/o worry of crushing/squishing/pining a camera man down.
lets see thats a 82-70, so the power is @ the front of the machine. I'll lay odds that there was a 2nd mechanic off screen that did the LOTO (Lock Out Tag Out for those who don't know the lingo).
Привет из России я механник брансвика раньше был ВИА и амф лучше брансвика нет машины)))
Why TF it just end like that
I'm surprised they don't have the quick disconnect for the cusion.
ugh, I do not like the 82 70 machines, Broke a finger, then I learned to put the sweep down before I started doing anything to these machines
Always, always drop the sweep to the deck, then pull the plug and padlock it into a lock-box.
What bowling alley is this?
Cloverleaf Family Fun Center in Fremont, California
There is no need to take out the pit cushion to remove a bounce plate assy!.
Yeah, I was wondering why they were doing that.
I always pull my cushions. It takes less than 5 minutes and gives me so more much room for pulling the front roller support hinges, tightening down the A-frame, and anything else that needs to be done when you do a pit. Takes less time than hauling a carpet and bounce board around to the front of the machine lol.
Agreed. So much easier to work in the pit with the cushion gone and out of the way.
no1froggy yeah man, have a great time putting your bounce plate wrapped in a carpet back under the pit cushion. 😂😂
i prefer to have room while doing a carpet replacement.
Joshua Huson right!!! who wants to walk down a center cap with a bounce plate and carpet ??
the only thing i might do differently than everyone else is not removing the paddle to push the front roller through. i just cut the bad carpet and pull it out, and put the front roller through the back of the pinwheel
Aww.... come on Mike,... I can do two of these carpets a day... Wait till you get one of these when the nut holding the rubber mount for the bounce plate strips and just spins.. and on an odd side machine at that....
Wait.. it actually takes so long that you'd only manage 2 in a day?!
@@VinylToVideo to replace a carpet takes over 2 hours if everything goes perfectly, which it never does, on top of other maintinence and calls 2 is the most you could do in a day if the house is super dead
thats bull shit that the cushion shock on the machine is being held by a nut and bolt. should replace that with pin and X washers.
why can it work a Brunswick Pinsetter not a amf
i have 82 70s
i am a bowling machine engineer and the job is not dirty ok dude it a respect full job
Do this stuff daily
why are they doing it ass backwards the carpet and bounce board can be removed from the front of the lane release front roller remove 4 nuts remove carpet and bounce board
i hate when the welded nuts are broke!!!!
Ok
lol yea sweep down! ive seen mechanics do some stupid things to put themselves at risk and one of them paid for it with his life. a ball will do serious damage. plus i do this without removing the cushion like no1froggy said.
@izzynutz2000 : only 2 ? I repair 4 of this cushion in 8 houres
and i must must regrett te A2 from Brunwick looks good but I see the ball killer in aktion, thanks no
AMF PINSETTERS SUCK I'M A BRUNSWICK MAN. AND WHERES PART 2 AT
JEREMY33085 Does Switch Bowling Pinspotters Suck??
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Should have at least looked at A2s. These AMF machines are junk and no center wants them. When they break, they really break.
That machine if impeccably clean. It definitely puts my house to shame!
baseprogression my boss used to work for hi.
I mentioned him
jacob cook Steve's a really cool guy
I work at Gould County lanes and I am a macanic. I work on the 82-70. Thank u for your service
It has to be, cause it's on TV!