In today’s video I go over the reasons why the newer Fortnite Battle Passes are worse compared to the older ones as well as solutions to the problems. #fortnite
I do wish that Fortnite would bring back progressive skins, because for the tier 100 skins, I find myself only using the base style, because the super styles and other edit styles often aren’t for me. The progressive skins had stages that evolved the skin, and looked better than the styles that we have for skins today
I feel like challenges now for battle passes are so boring. I miss those challenges like when you had to dance with multiple people to make the disco ball go up or find the hidden battle stars and banners around the map
I just think fortnites gotten lazy bc they've made it, they're one of THE biggest games rn, they just dont need to try as hard anymore, also they rely on collab skins waaay too much
The bad part is that since it seems Fortnite isn’t gonna bring stuff back to the shop unless it can support in the other modes, battle passes probably won’t get any new item types for a long time, if at all
What i dont understand about that whole "dosent support other modes" is that what about rocket racing? It dosent support emotes so what were never getting emotes again?
@@Methfrfr I think for the most part, it refers to LEGO. For example, Polar Patroller doesn't have a LEGO skin outside of the generic placeholder base model. So we have to wait an unknown amount of time for the devs to create a LEGO style for that skin before he returns to the store. Same with emotes: If the LEGO character can't do a specific dance, that emote won't return to the store until a lego animation is made. There are also some skins in limbo due to issues with other companies, but that's an entirely different situation. (Very unfortunate as well, since I want Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil).
imo there are things that old passes do better and there are things that new battle passes do better. what I prefer about older passes: -progressive outfits (like Drift & Calamity) -having multiple emotes that actually play music -having a new type of cosmetic (like sprays, toys, wraps) introduced in every pass, tho I get why they don't do that anymore -skin styles being unlockable even after the season ends -not having collabs in the pass what I prefer about new passes: -better overall skin quality and amount of styles for each skin -less filler -less of a grind -being able to get it through the crew pack -the original skins all fitting the season's theme -the skins feeling more like characters with personality, instead of just outfits -the progression system being based around in-game levels instead of having battle stars as a seperate way of progression -2D loading screens made by artists that were specifically commisioned for them (and the artists being credited in the description)
I agree with a lot that you said but also disagree with some -I think the skin quality has gone down, battle pass skins now only get one style that just has different clothing and the rest are recolors. While yes some skins back then only had recolor styles, they were made up with the multiple progressive skins that each battle pass had which all had an insane amount of styles with good quality -I think battle passes now have more filler, especially with edit styles taking up so many tiers. These styles could easily be made into challenges you get when unlocking the skin like how it was in chapter 1 but they all take up battle pass slots. Also in chapter 1 we had stuff like pets and toys that weren't filler at all -Personally I think battle passes being a bit harder to grind was better and more rewarding. This one is just personal preference tho, and I understand why they're easier now especially with bonus rewards going all the way up to level 200 -I feel like skins now don't have much personality. Compare recent battle passes to ones like chapter 2 season 2 where each skin got so much personality and attention which lead to that battle pass being so memorable
@@89carti I'll just reply to your points about skin quality & personality, because the other points are completely subjective and I think what you said about those is fair. Obviously it's also subjective how much you enjoy current skins compared to older ones, but I feel like the edit styles we get now don't offer much less customization than the ch1 ones. For example the Brite Raider skin from this pass has 3 normal color options, a helmet on or off option and 3 super style color options. Compare this to the Drift skin where you have 5 clothing options and a vfx effect you can put on the fifth clothing style. No color or mask options at all. It boils down to personal preference in the end but I think being able to run a completely different colorway on a skin makes much more of a difference than putting a vest on it and nothing else. The point about skin personalities is a bit less subjective imo. Skins nowadays all have unique facemodels (except for stuff like Vengeance Jones, since he's a new rendition of an existing character) compared to older skins which often used one of the 8 default models. Epic also puts new characters on the map as npcs who have unique dialogue, which helps a lot. That plus having theme songs, own pois on the map and appearing in story quests just gives them more character to me. They're less iconic than older outfits of course, but that's inevitable since we have thousands of skins atp. I definitely agree on your opinion about the ch2 s2 battle pass, that one was great. Though by older battle passes I exclusively meant chapter 1 passes
@@froggo9539 I see what you mean, and you are definitely right about the skin personalities. You mentioned a lot that I wasn't keeping in mind, but I still feel like these are just small things that aren't really memorable. I think they could do much better to make the personalities show more, since I feel like most people aren't really going to remember stuff like npc dialogue. Now for drift I agree he would have been better with stuff like color styles, not sure why he didn't get any color styles when both carbide and calamity, the tier 1 skins before and after him had color styles. But I'd say catalyst makes up for that, since she's the best of both worlds. Brite raider is cool but her styles don't seem too interesting but obviously that's up to preference. Her styles are just recolors and one adds a helmet that changes nothing else. She could have been so much cooler if she was somehow progressive
It's a tough choice, but Omega has always been my favorite skin, and having all his edit styles is prob my proudest achievement in FN lol. Well, except having the full gold Agent Peely from reaching lvl 350 in CH2 S2.
Something about the simplicity of older seasons just made them so much better. Now we're just getting already existing characters from other games. No originality
@@ltisdabest21no but almost every battle pass has at least one collaboration skin. either it’s in the pass already or it’s a secret skin which is just one waste of a slot for an original character
Even with fortnite's original skins, they reuse themes from their own characters way too much (in the battle pass not the item shop.) What I'm saying is this new "Rust" "The Machinist" and especially that brite raider have got to go in the item shop. We already have skins like those.
@MichealAfton1983 even whether the skin is or isn't good it doesn't feel as rewarding as a unique character. Would you rather get a new character that unlocks styles or colors throughout the pass or quests like some of the chap 1 skins, or another iteration of thor or something with 1 or 2 styles and an emote. And I don't hate the collabs directly, I like some of the skins like the new iron spider and some non-skin items from c2s4 (which I don't mind because it is supposed to be a marvel season), but there are so many of the marvel skins and items that including them in the battle pass constantly feels more filler than a reward. And it doesn't help that the new item shop is just a full on catalog with the same items for as long as you need. Like it feels like a fluke when I see an older skin I recognize and like in the item shop, despite it still being overshadowed by the same collab skins in the shop for the last week.
I Don't mind the lowering of the amount of cosmetics as a whole, because fortnite had a lot more to experiment back in chapter 1. What i don't like now is that we have bonus tiers now which, apart from the super styles feel like bloat and a way to extend play time in regards to FOMO. Why are we adding lego sets and rocket racing cars to the battle pass when it's supposed to be all about battle royale. For the lego mode if we're not getting our content in updates then why is the customization content being paywalled in the shop as well. Progressive skins were way better in concept and execution. AND i believe you could work on unlocking styles after the season had ended. Also having collab skins of some of the most iconic characters expected to never return (Gaming legends, Marvel, Star wars) is just cruel
ikr I agree with you so much...I wish we could go back all over again to when Fortnite just got released...I miss the OG times so much....so much nostalgia man 😭 and even Fortnite's "OG Season" was a fake bro they took old skins and modified them 😭😭😭
Remember when you actually had a tier 100 skin instead of a built in emote that unlocks an additional style? And when battle stars weren’t a thing? I liked the old stuff way better.
Old passes felt so rewarding to complete, but now challenges are so easy you will complete them without even knowing what they are, now it’s too easy for battle passes. And they are just cash grabs
removing skin rarities was sad, sure it didnt serve much of a purpose but a legendary skin being earned at the end or unlocking all the stages for a legendary skin was so cool
I miss the map, the skins, the weapons and content, how progressive the battle pass was and the simplicity of it all. Wanting to get the cosmetics soo badly, now idc for any of that in this game. The season OG they released awhile ago brought back all of that monetarily and they only let us have it for a month. They need to make that a separate feel for people who miss that
Good to see youtubers like you talking about the old battlepasses i dont like the new battle stars system its just boring and not rewarding these days the battlepasses are just lazy and are just carried by collabs i dont like it
I agree with you so much man...I keep watching Fortnite make new battle passes and when I see the next season coming I think "Oh, well here comes another bad season 💀" I feel like this season is more about the cars than the actual players....😢
Then don't play the game. Every season and battlepass since CH4 have been great with one or two exceptions. The problem isn't the game bud it's you so go find something else to play and stop crying😂
"Oh, well here comes another bad season" is going to sum up the next season for me if the season is going to be Marvel themed. I don't have an interest in Marvel and having a battle pass themed around specific IPs like that is just a bad idea in my opinion. I like when the season has a general theme and skins revolve around that and can vary greatly.
@@STK_Itsuka You must be a new player, because if you started in Season 1 you would be just as upset as I am. I'm not crying, I'm just an OG player from Season 1 that's mad at Fortnite's dumb decisions to copy other games/movies instead of making up their own stuff like they used to. And by the way, I have stopped playing Fortnite for a little bit, but since they're supposed to have Titled Towers back, I'm gonna see what it's all about, and if it's garbage, I'll just resume to playing RDR2 which is a WAY better game. And what I mean is that BR Fortnite is garbage. Creative is still okay, and that's the only thing I'd ever play. And they also copied COD, with Ranked Mode. Fortnite's Ranked mode used to be ARENA with Hype Points. And if you knew anything, the game isn't the problem, the problem is EPIC GAMES being lazy.
@@STK_Itsuka Well if you're going to start using uneducated words, keep your opinions to yourself. I'm just voicing my opinion and you don't need to start using the words "Dumbass" and "moron" just because I'm replying to your comment and letting you know what I think about the way Fortnite is now. I apologize if I offended you by assuming you were a new player. If you like the way Fortnite is now, I can respect that you have your own likes and dislikes, I was just saying I don't like the way Epic Games has changed Fortnite.
1:48 this isn’t really true because to unlock megladon or any of the skins you have to finish the whole page. Also if you just don’t collect something from the pass, at the end of the season they will automatically collect Also I think the extra Xp as rewards is such a good idea especially since it’s so hard to level up now
At this point I realized bro is crying over things that makes no sense. Everything is the same, only thing different is nowadays we have better and detailed skins instead of default skins with different styles from C1.
@@hellween-He has a couple valid points but a lot of the things he’s complaining about aren’t even bad, hell he’s complaining about good things. Why is he annoyed about extra edit styles for skins?
@@wet0wl he's more annoyed with the fact that they're included WITHIN the battlepass, not that they have extra styles. Those tiers that the extra styles are taking up could be replaced with something else rather than having the edit style within the battlepass. Back then, no styles were included within the pass, they were given by doing challenges and to add onto it, they were progressive too by reaching a certain level. The point is that we could be getting other rewards in place of those and just unlocking the edit styles by other means like challenges and yes we may get additional styles for completing quests and leveling up after level 100 but quantity doesn't always necessarily mean the quality is good. Instead of having 4 different colored variants of a singular skin, we could have a singular different variant that looks good or hell, a progressive skin that as you put work into it, it starts to look better and better. That's his point in the video.
Remember when you could get the Battle Pass and as long as you got to level 100 you had pretty much unlimited time to work and unlock the edit styles? I miss that.
Battle stars ruined battle passes for me it gives the illusion of choice you need level 96 to be able o buy the final skin yet you need to buy everything before to be able to buy the last skin which makes it a tier 100.
I love how we always look at the past and make it look like it was something amazing but when those times were current, we used to hate on it. We talked so much trash about it happens in eco We hate the current product and look back on the past like it was so great. Never fails.
Awesome video! Straight to the point! You covered some things that I never even thought of in that way. Thanks for the new perspective! I also 100% agree with what you said about pets and toys. It would be awesome to see them back in the game! I use Kitsune, Kyo and Ohm all the time. It would be cool to add some more to the collection!
Saw people on twitter judging the video by its thumbnail so I went to watch for myself. Good video with good points, just a few that I disagree with but overall it was nice to hear opinions voiced such as yours presented in this video. I don't see much of it said often so thank you for this
The only problem I see with this argument is the grind for one level back then, I use to play every day during season 6, did every quest and daily quest, hell I even used vbucks from the battlepass to buy levels… I only got to level 92. I’m much happier now that the grind is less hard
i miss secret skins where we actually had something to look forward to every single time we completed all the weekly tasks, we would all unlock the loading screens and seek the secret banner or battle star as well as see the clues to what might come in the future of the season, the time before deadpool where we weren't spoiled day one for what its to come, the time where most of these skins mattered to the current season story and for the next one. this loading screens would also connect to what was happening during the updates, were we would see digging sites near the lake and we would see the characters discovering it. there was so much involvement between the player's progression and the season's progression. our excitement for new updates didn't come from seeing videos on youtube of leaked stuff, instead we would all hear and find out about them in game, with clues and not just a twitter post announcing a collab.
And this is why I’m glad I bought all CHPTR1 season 2 through x battle passes and maxed them out because I knew nothing like them would come back again.
Something I miss with the old battle pass was how creative it was. If you look at season 5 chapter 1 for example. We got a sushi spray, tic tac toe banner, a potato aim spray. Nowadays all tiers is dedicated to the page skin and you can’t really get creative with the stuff you get.
For me, what has made the battles passes less good is the removal of the evolving skins, because in fact the skins in the latest passes aren't so bad in the sense that there are some good ones like the crystal guy from season 1 chapter 5, Nisha or even skins in the season 2 chapter 4 pass like Renzo, Mizuki, the galaxy samurai chick. But for me what made a battle pass good was those evolving skins, now they make us grind on super styles, super styles have become boriiiinnng asfff, I prefer when he had two skins that you max well, I find it much more interesting than just color styles.
I think the problem is that fortnite realised that they don’t have to try on a skin because they can put a collab in there and the skins would be gone in 3 months
i get your point about the tier 100 skins, but you still do have to have claimed every other item, even in the new ones, before you can claim the last one
Part of the reason I wouldn’t care if they brought back older parts is simply due to the fact the items were nice, they put a lot more effort into their own creation. Epic seems to have lost that more and you can tell, and if you played through the whole battle pass back in the day there was enough free vbucks earned to get the battle pass for free. Only issue I had back then is you couldn’t finish your it battle pass when the next season came out, I still use the water balloon and soccer toy ngl.
this is such a made up issue, both the quality and the amount of rewards have increased incredibly, the whole arguement that "you can just unlock megalodon but in the good ol' days you had to get to tier 100 for omega" is just pure bullshit. You HAVE to have everything else in a battlepass unlocked before u can get the final skin, and dont go with the fkn ultima knight bullshit cuz if you actually played in season X you would know what kind of bullshit challanges u needed to unlock both the origin knight style and the red style (pretty much that ages superlevel rewards), if you only reached tier 100 which i did with my account level being something like 37 you would only unlock the base style, and recently when i tried to match with my friends they didnt have silver ultima knight nor the origin style so dont try to bullshit your way through and please, we still get the same amount of rewards you used to "back in the day" you just dont notice it cuz its all on the same line nowadays , you get 5 stars per level, and some rewards shocker cost less than 5 stars 😨 and wtf kind of an arguement is that the ability to chose your rewards is bad? if i want to speedrun to a skin i can save up stars and skip the skins i dont gaf, me personally i think this is a good thing the only thing you got right is 2 skins compared to 1 right now on tier 1, but the skin being spread out isnt much of an issue in my opinion but i can see how it can annoy you. "with so much filler that is clogging up todays battlepasses like banner icons, emoticons etc" like holy fuck do you remember when they introduced sprays? every page had 5 of them out of 10 slots, do you remember when they introducted toys? yes you do cuz u mentioned it but u didnt mention how they'd have 2 recolors of the same toy "clogging" up the battle pass and xp bonuses seriously dont matter cuz epic already gives so much xp, you can get 15/20 levels a day in under 2 hours by just knowing what gamemodes to play "technique battlehawk , sledgehammer, squadleader, valor skins people used to consider to be decent skins at the time even without styles" NO??? everyone was hyped about the fact that s4 and s5 had these skins that HAD the edit styles, and why is having more rewards like the peabody slap style a bad thing? would you rather get another banner and a spray like we used to in the good ol times instead of an extra FREE variant to a skin put off the nostalgia glasses cause the ammount of shit you get in the battlepasses has been reduced a LOT and this is just a complaint to complain
So true, I really don’t get the hate for the newer battle pass system. It’s not even bad in any way. You still get a hundred rewards, it’s easy to level up, you can choose which rewards you want, you still get extra styles, vbucks, and 8 skins. People need to start appreciating what they have more before it’s gone.
okay so let me ask this whats special about the battlepasses now when everyone can unlock it easily why not get rid of the battlepass and just put the skins in the store
I also just wish Epic would start making good skins in general for the battle pass. All the skins nowadays largely just kind of suck. Like remember Black Knight, Reaper, Rust Lord, Dark Voyager, Omega, Ice King, Catalyst, Lynx, Vendetta, or Ultima Knight? The only skins in the battle pass that have interested in me over the past couple years are the crossover skins, the original skins suck ass like 85% of the time. I rarely ever buy battle passes because nowadays there’s only like 1-2 actually good or cool skins. We honest to God didn’t know how great we had it back in chapter 1.
They also need to work on emotes, in all respect but the recent battle pass emotes suck. For this season I understand as it's marvel themed but the other seasons got no reason for their best emote to be a short little action when back in the day you'd get legendary dances like the orange justice, flamingo, etc.
I don't mind edit styles, but it would be nice if they just came with the skin/pickaxe/glider/whatever when you buy the normal version, this way they could still be a thing cause having options is nice, but not hog pages that could be used for other things. I also think we should go back to having separate tracks for the battle pass. If we did that, then the free stuff would have their own separate slots and that's a few extra slots for additional rewards in the full battle pass.
I can’t explain how much I miss seeing pets in the battle pass. They got me more hyped than the tier 100…They literally have a bunch of animals as options but they just don’t make them anymore.
tbh, i just wish epic gave us newer players a chance to get the older battlepasses, and maybe bring back older seasons in a more effiecent way. oh and stop the item shop rotation. but yea, i see old battle passes and i just feel like i missed out on so much, i hate fomo and how epic is using it they need to fix so much with the game but they just wanna focus on getting as many collabs as possible as if quantity is perferable over quality (it isnt)
@@ToastyBoi2005 exactly, im rather new in actually playing the game consistently, like epic could make the game so much better but insteads does crap like remove rarities and other things that NO ONE asked for
I agree with this, though I do have some things to say. I agree with the battle pass not needing whole pages just for an alternate style for a character, but I do like when skins are customizable and have different color variations. When you unlock the skin, a pick axe, or a glider, you should immediately unlock all color variants for it as well. I dislike when you unlock a skin and then the glider, but you have to wait a whole month for the quest reward to come out so you can unlock the glider color that goes with the skin. There's a lot of wasted space on current passes due to edit styles. It would have been cool to have Scarr on one page, and then the hyena concept art skin on the next page. They could be the same color and have different, interchangeable cosmetics that compliment each other. (Also, I'll be pissed if we don't get the hyena skin at all. I don't care if it becomes a store skin for 2000 Vbucks, that's one of the cooler concept art skins. Scarr is also one of the most disliked battle pass skins from what I've seen). With pets, I wholeheartedly agree that we need more of them. I still use a few of my pets (Some of them, I barely use because I can't unlock all the colors currently and would like a way to unlock the colors I missed). I love the little wolf back bling and use him fairly often. Some more would be nice. I know we occasionally get similar back blings like Billie's dog or the hermit crab, but more pets on the little chairs would be nice. Especially ones that are reactive, like the chameleon changing color every time you pick up an item. Finally, I'd like to say, I would love if they excluded cars, instruments, and LEGO builds from the normal battle pass. They take up space and I barely use them. Instruments should be put on the Festival pass instead. LEGO builds should not be on the Battle Royale pass at all, since they aren't usable in Battle Royale. While people say it was a free reward and didn't take up space, it still took time to develop. They could have spent that time making an extra contrail for the pass instead of something that isn't usable in the mode the pass was made for.
I think once every 5 months there was a bundle where when you buy it you choose which battle pass skin bundle you want let's say you chose Mids you get the whole Mids bundle and it will cost 1,600 V Bucks because you also only get one bundle for the price of one and a half battle pass and you also choose only one for six months what do you say I cooked or not
Personally they should resell older battle passes call me stupid, crazy, etc… but still some people can’t get their dream skin because it’s a locked skin from 6 years ago
i dont like how easy it is to level up in battle passes, i miss the weekly battle starts hidden in the loading screens and fun challenges not just dealing damaged while crouched or something the game just doesnt feel as goofy / fun anymore
Back then when the game was simple, the game was better and there were less complaints. Chapter 1 was PERFECT. It’s when they started adding extra shit early-mid chapter 2, that’s when this game started going down hill fr and they think adding more unwanted shit makes it better. Idk why they find it so hard to just make the chapter 1 map separate or permanent for ppl who wanna play it and just make battle passes simple, original and with no or barely any collabs. This game went downhill badly and the ppl holding on this game need to realize this game is not fun anymore
The only reason i bought the current battlepass was for the T60 power armor. If not for that, i probably wouldnt have bought it MegaloDon is cool and the Brite Raider with the helmet reminds me of Twister from Twisted Metal 2 but I'll rarely even play those.
This been happening sense chapter 2 and I don't think they are changing anytime soon as most of their fanbase now is new players who only knew this game for a year or two and they have to applied to new players but they failed to realize is that their old system was much better as the player counts during summer 2018 vs summer 2024 is very drastic, and most of us the og players left the game long time ago as it was not what we are used too, but if they fixed the system and the battle pass and notice the decrease in player count they will get (at least some of us) back to the game and also realism is also killing the game as this game was not supposed to have cars collabs every 2 seconds it supposed to be cartoony and adventure type of game that's why it was so appealing to many players man I don't even know why they make the changes worse😥
The 100 tier system with extra quests for specific skin styles and rewards felt much more rewarding as not everything had an edit style, and you had to do something extra other than grinding tiers to unlock it, which made them feel special and not just something you get anyway by getting higher tiers. Additionally, having set values for tiers and not having any way to skip them made the progression consistent, unlike now with quest XP and random XP values per level that fluctuate between each season just making getting tiers feel messy. When weekly quests came out in chapter 1 you knew that you will get the same amount of tiers each time, and now you get a randomized amount of tiers based on your current level. I have a lot more to say about why older passes felt better, but this comment is already too long.
I do think the older battlepasses were better overall, not to say there's not been any good ones in recent years there have been plenty that I enjoyed. However, I think Older Battle Passes were definitely better, modern Battle passes for some reason seem to have less stuff overall, which is rather unfortunate, modern battle passes also use the Battlestar system which has its pros and cons. Now instead of getting something every level you get something every 3 or 4 levels. One other thing that I'm not sure of, is that tier 100 skins have been replaced by variants of the skin on the previous page. I'm not one to turn down skin variants, but I also would like it if they didn't sacrifice tier 100 skins.
I liked playing Fortnite back then and actually trying to get to the tier 100 skin , not just by lvling up but actually doing the weekly quests for battle stars , plus not having to stress about extra super styles. You actually had to grind for the tier 100 back then, also they screwed up the gliders , instead of having reskins of the og blue glider we get gianormous ch2 gliders we can’t even see half the screen with
What you have a choice now but you really don’t have a choice bro. So it’s still a grind. What you said makes no sense. You can’t get the tier 100 skin now without unlocking everything. So you really have no choice. lol
To expand your point on the on seperate free and paid battle pass, i believe that the toal amount of rewards we got was 125 ish. which, guess what is the roughly the exact same amount we got for not just completeing the battlepass, but the ''bonus" rewards and, the quest rewards (which includes the base versions of some items???) and the 'secret' styles. They are just FOMO filler.
You do know that tier 100 skins are technically unobtainable unless you get everything else, and even if you want to say that getting their base style can be the option, you still need to reach the level 80s to attain them. I can kinda give you that for the free knicknacks, but it seems like they also just gives you xp as the alternative. Though xp boosts are definitely better then stickers and emoticons. Doesn't the secondary skins also have matching cosmetics, while simultaniously keeping star counts low since its been always 8 skins? Outside of that i agree with the rest.
How Fortnite structures it's battle passes today are way better then how they used to be in terms of accessibility and time spent to fully complete each pass, but I will still agree in terms of how they format the pass I do have my own personal issues with. I wanna start off this rant by saying I disagree with the point that grinding these passes are hard, and we need xp boosts to fill out slots in the pass. I am a babysitter of 3 kids who I take care of most of the week and often find myself with barely any personal free time to really sit down and play Fortnite. but I've never not reached tier 200, with all bonus rewards, quest rewards, and bonus skin completed. Same with the kids I take care of, they on their own are able to fully complete the passes by themselves with no help from me at all. They do not play the game every day and often end up not playing for weeks at a time but still manage to finish their passes, but that is mainly because they play the other modes. I personally hate Fortnite is now a metaverse platform with a major push towards UGC content rather then just continuing to be a live service game from Epic, but everyone is typically able to finish their passes as long as they are willing to put in time to playing the other modes. Epic should buff the xp battle royale gives while also adding xp playtime boost the other modes give so battle royale is an actual viable method of leveling up your pass! Maybe try and do more frequent double xp weekends to encourage people to play more often rather then leaving the game to be super soulless and dry consistently each season. With that rant being out of the way, here is some of my personal gripes that I feel are genuine problems in the battle passes we get now. - Collab's I think Collab's being shoved into each pass to seemingly meet some sorta quota is really unfair, and my reason isn't just because "oh, Collab's are ruining the game!" My primary issue is using iconic characters to shill a pass and them no longer coming back again is so upsetting, especially when trying to convince someone new to get interested into the game. Darth Vader, The Predator, Mandalorian, Peter Griffin, and a whole arsenal of Marvel characters physically cannot come back and it's gut wrenching to see people not able to obtain these. Personally they can take up a slot in the pass, I am fine enough with only getting 7 skins a pass (2 Collab's in one pass is way too much!) But they should return to the shop eventually, but the ultimate way of dealing with this situation is just shove them in their own mini-pass or some major scale event since they like making items related to the Collab's within the pass and leave the battle pass completely original! (Quick personal note here, but c5s2 was intended to be a completely original pass but Korra was shoved in last second, this is supported by the earlier description of Ares' cinematic trailer stating he was a battle pass skin, the description stated he was the bonus skin of that pass. Another detail that could be spotted in-game, upon fighting him, an icon appears at the start of the fight to alert the battle has been started, a different helmet design was used for Ares. This helmet design isn't featured on him or his minions but actually the helmet he had in his concept art! This implies that when Ares was a battle pass skin instead of being forced into Fortnite crew, he was going to have modular parts instead of just having a singular color alt. His concept art also implies he had an bronze color alt on top of the black style and the red style!) - Alt styles Alt styles in specifically c3s2 was handled perfectly in terms of being a final reward in the page but unlocking that alt gave you several rewards. The imagined when you got her purple alt, not only gave you a helmet style, it gave you a color alt for her ENTIRE set, this condenses the reward clutter and make styles taking up tier slots in the pass feel more rewarding and overall should be how Fortnite distributes color alts. Chapter 4 and onwards has this ridiculous issue of only just presenting a color alt for the base skin and that's all you get. Biggest example I can think of off the top of my head, I was really excited to see a pink Artemis color alt in the pass mainly because it was a color pallet they rarely use, but getting disappointed right after when that was the only part of the set that had actually had gotten the color alt. Solution? Either just make the color alts separate challenges to keep players actively playing the game (Make it like fortbytes if they really want too ig) or just go back to how they handled it before. - Tier arrangement This is just nitpicking rather then being more of a genuine complaint. Epic really needs to revaluate where they put skins in the pass, make the lamer skins early pass and leave the more heavy designs for later on. c4s3 is a good example for how weird tier placements can be, leaving characters with more complex designs be the tier 1 of the pass, but the most basic skin design you've ever seen be tier 10? Simplicity isn't bad but I do miss when more badass skins were later on in the pass, made it feel more rewarding to put in the grind and earn those skins. Building up to a final reward sometimes barely feel genuine, but I feel they've been getting better at LEAST with the tier 100's but that's the only thing they've improved on. I don't like Cerberus, but I do like The Machinist, them being Tier 1's is so incredibly lame but that's just my personal take! Overall despite me not fully agreeing with most points brought up in this video, it's a great topic of discussion and I want to thank you for bringing it up and really build up talk so Epic can hopefully take some points as suggestions on how they can improve the game!
I mean, you still have to get to Tier 100 to get Megalodon. They don't let you choose ANY skin just out of order, you still have to grind. There are still level requirements
Me that played in Season 4 but didnt get the Orange Justice Emote 😔 😭 , it was SUCH a Good , Og and Iconic Emote and Iconic Music , that it was soo duuumb of my oast self NOT EVEN THIINKING that " ohhh... I started play this game now for the first time on ps4 slim mm....maybe until I spend some money to unlock my first bp " which was in season 7 for Christmas, " I should just see what the Free Track has to offer and if its sth good I ll grind for it " . Tier 23 wasnt that hard to unlock
To counter the Megalo Don point, the 'choose what you want' only applies if you're getting his first version. But since you said tier 100, that would prove your point false, because you need everything else in the battle pass in order to get the tier 100 reward. Besides that, I completely agree with everything you said. The battle pass has a LOT of problems which could easily be fixed.
God days and old days are gone. Now the days are getting worser and worser sorry to say and not just regarding the video games and fortnite but also in the world days are getting worser and worser.
Fr I miss when battle stars functioned like this and not the XP thing we have now it use to take weeks to get too tier 100 (unless you payed $$) now its just takes a week
Those edit styles they put in the passes are often times better than the base skin and sometimes I won’t even run the base version because the edit style is soo much better. I think edit styles are a much better reward than crap like emojis and sprays. I think that newer skins having lost of edit styles makes them far superior because some people might only like one style.
Personally I like the stars system cuz it means you can get the rewards you actually want sooner but I do with the rewards would be a bit more varied, I feel like a mix between the old system and the new would work best
for megalodon: u talking about the tier 90 version or the tier 100 version? tier 90, u can get the skin once u reach it. though his second style, u HAVE to redeem everything else in base pass. (yes, im specifying just incase)
i say fortnite doesnt care anymore, there game is just a promotional money making machine for them. They dont care what the coomunity says I mean it just shows more and more each chappter how each one gets shorter. Fortnite is out of ideas. such as live events, updates, weapons, shit they said the next season will be all marvel like? not to mention battle passes will never be the same. Its like what happened with save the world they stopped giving it updates and didnt care about it anymore, feels kinda the same way with battle royale right now. with them, adding things such a Lego or Fortnite festival. There game isnt dead I would say, but theya re trying to keep on an idea that is 7 years old now and people will realize its teh same shit every season, every chapter and every live event. There is no story anymore and that is what made the game fun. great video though and I agree with how battle passes are truly so shit now, they dont try like they used too.
Maybe you are right but the reasoning isn’t. Chapters being shorter does nothing in itself, the live events being lesser and story content being reduced is true, however they are bringing back the story from chapter 5 slowly. Save the worlds situation was completely different because it had a minimal amount of players, battle Royale from the time it launched had more players then save the world, while you could combine Lego / festival / racing and it would still not reach the numbers of battle Royale, I’m sure br isn’t gonna get abandoned because while there is a loop, it’s an incredibly fun loop, which is why the games been alive for 7 years.
I feel like new battle passes have lost identity. Battle passes back in chapter 1 and early chapter 2 were so iconic with not only just players but also people outside the game. Everybody knows skins like drift, calamity, lynx, peely, midas, etc. They used to give so much attention and character to the skins in the old battle passes. They gave them so much personality, like remember drift and his friend group in those roadtrip loading screens? Also in chapter 2 season 2 arguably one of the most iconic battle passes ever, gave each character unique personalities with their own cutscenes, rooms, pois, mythics, etc. They also had styles you could individually choose for each skin which made you kind of bond with that skin to choose the style you prefer. Most people are able to name every character in that battle pass, even the less popular ones like brutus or tntina. That's also not even mentioning the challenges they used to give skins in the old battle passes so you could unlock their styles and extra rewards outside of the main battle pass. Now I feel like battle passes rely on collabs for their identity/selling point. I mean honestly do most people even remember most of the battle pass skins nowadays outside of the collab skin? They are just not memorable or iconic anymore and fortnite barely does anything to help that. They don't give them personality and they don't give them stuff like challenges to unlock styles or extra rewards for them. I also think stuff like overtime challenge styles were both so much better and memorable than super styles Also it sucks that new players can't get stuff like pets or toys anymore since 99% of them were locked behind old battle passes. I think there's like one pet and toy that can be bought in the item shop but they only ever come back once every year or two. I really thought for season OG they were gonna introduce a new pet and toy in the OG pass since they were both such a big part of chapter 1 battle passes. Like some ideas I thought they could maybe do is a mashup pet of bonesy and the merry munchkin to make a gingerbread dog or maybe a taco toy to match the tomato and durrr burger toys we've gotten before but nope
I want you to name any other bp skin that wasn't the most popular skins from the old bps. I rarely see anyone mention people like Valor, Zoey, and Sledgehammer so I completely disagree that they used to give so much details to older skins, especially when all new bp skins get multiple styles. I agree that unlocking their cosmetics through challenges was good. I don't know how a character that has dialogue, poi, loading screens, and an npc are less memorable than skins that never did anything. All chapter 5 skins have done more and had more importance than most chapter 1 skins. You mention the reason why they don't put pets and toys in the bp and yet still are upset.
@@ltisdabest21 Yes there were less popular skins but I'd argue people still know who they are. The thing about current battle passes is none of the skins stick except for the collabs. You mention npc dialogue and stuff but honestly who is going out of their way to read all that? The main way to read npc dialogue is to actively search for it on twitter which not many people do. The loading screens they get are alright, but if they did those storyline loading screens again I'd argue the characters would have more personality within those and people would actively see what's going on with the characters and the story of the season. Also most of the battle pass skins now only get recolor styles. Only 3 out of the 7 skins in the main battle pass this season have a style that actually changes something and it's pretty much just clothing with maybe a new mask. Now I know the immediate argument is "chapter 1 skins also had recolor styles or none at all" which is fair, but I think that's made up by the progressive skins. The progressive skins are basically two skins in one, starting as one skin and each style making them better and better until the last style which looks like a completely different and cooler skin. Battle pass skins are obviously gonna have recolor styles no matter old or new which is ok, but wouldn't you rather have 2 or 3 of the skins be progressive? Imagine if the tier 1 skin this battle pass was progressive, she would have been so much cooler and memorable especially if you had to earn her styles through challenges. Also where exactly did I mention the reason pets and toys aren't in the battle pass anymore? Anytime they're brought up people just say how they should bring them back
Something I really don’t like is how you have to get above level 100 to get all your vbucks it used to be 1500 vbucks in the 100 levels and now a part is put in the extra stuff
As someone who hasn't played fortnte consistently since Season X, I have zero incentive to hop back in purely because of battle passes. I have nothing to grind because I have NO IDEA how the new passes work, the skins aren't even that good and are mostly just advertisements from the next big ip or one from the 80s which I don't get, and it's just way too complex!
Ngl I know this battle pass isn’t like old old only like a couple months old but ngl I kinda wanted Artemis but due to irl stuff i couldn’t get her or any styles
Would you ever consider doing a video on how they could bring back old battle passes? Me personally, I think there should be an option to replace the current pass with an old one for the cost of a couple hundred more V-bucks. (And to compensate for the Og owners they could give a new style to a skin or two If the pass they owned reached a certain goal like 500 people purchasing it)
I do wish that Fortnite would bring back progressive skins, because for the tier 100 skins, I find myself only using the base style, because the super styles and other edit styles often aren’t for me. The progressive skins had stages that evolved the skin, and looked better than the styles that we have for skins today
Niffty spitting facts
Also My favorite skin is a progressive skin that was tier 1 and his name is hybrid
@@NaturedSwisha my favorite progressive skin was Catalyst, which I unfortunately wasn’t able to unlock all the colors for
@@Underseacornmine was drift on my old mobile acount I just got the battle pass quit came back later and fully unlocked drift
@@UnderseacornI played every season since season 2 - my favorite progressive skin is between drift and calamity
I wanted progressive skins ever since chapter 2. Look at the fade skin, he could've easily been a progressive skin!
I miss those battle stars you would find around the map in Chapter 1 of Fortnite. Finding those would always feel like winning the lottery
I feel like challenges now for battle passes are so boring. I miss those challenges like when you had to dance with multiple people to make the disco ball go up or find the hidden battle stars and banners around the map
Something that also annoys me is that tier 100 isn’t even a skin it’s just a built in emote that turns it into a new style that isn’t even good
EXACTLY
It's a style but they also get built-in emotes also that's subjective.
The built in emote is a bonus it's still a style
@@RooEditz no it’s not it’s a level
Megalodon hades and kado look so badass when they do the emotes stop crying over og not being in the game anymore
I just think fortnites gotten lazy bc they've made it, they're one of THE biggest games rn, they just dont need to try as hard anymore, also they rely on collab skins waaay too much
in the battle pass? i'd say not really, most collabs take a lot of effort to get right, and most of the older ones looked so similar
@@optimumplatinum2640 but still its kinda lazy focusing on making the collab skin great and the others not so much
@@Methfrfr these new ones are good, even have great super styles
@@optimumplatinum2640 i dont rlly like the super styles tbh
@@optimumplatinum2640 did you just say these super styles are great???? 💀
I got hit HARD by those old battle pass pictures... I miss those old days man. Now the only thing keeping me on Fortnite is the nolstalgia
Cornball
I thought it said “I got hard”🫢
The bad part is that since it seems Fortnite isn’t gonna bring stuff back to the shop unless it can support in the other modes, battle passes probably won’t get any new item types for a long time, if at all
What i dont understand about that whole "dosent support other modes" is that what about rocket racing? It dosent support emotes so what were never getting emotes again?
@@Methfrfr I think for the most part, it refers to LEGO. For example, Polar Patroller doesn't have a LEGO skin outside of the generic placeholder base model. So we have to wait an unknown amount of time for the devs to create a LEGO style for that skin before he returns to the store. Same with emotes: If the LEGO character can't do a specific dance, that emote won't return to the store until a lego animation is made.
There are also some skins in limbo due to issues with other companies, but that's an entirely different situation. (Very unfortunate as well, since I want Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil).
@@brandonstarstorm3289what a terrible system😕
That irritates the hell out of me because I've been anticipating the t800 skin, but now it seems like it won't come back
@@Deadman_Elit3 Same for me waiting for the Resident Evil skins. Hopefully Epic Games will do something if people complain enough, but I don't know.
1:52 to get the tier 100 skin you still have to own everything else in the battle pass you cannot just skip to the tier 100 skin
Well you could just not buy anything until you get to him
@@cringycam2546 yeah but before you can claim it, you have to claim everything else though
@@Monarch-lf7yc isn’t that only for the second style?
@@cringycam2546 yes but technically the 2nd style is the level 100 skin
@@geckogangstudios1405 no? If you actually watched the video one of the points he made was about how stupid secondary styles are
imo there are things that old passes do better and there are things that new battle passes do better.
what I prefer about older passes:
-progressive outfits (like Drift & Calamity)
-having multiple emotes that actually play music
-having a new type of cosmetic (like sprays, toys, wraps) introduced in every pass, tho I get why they don't do that anymore
-skin styles being unlockable even after the season ends
-not having collabs in the pass
what I prefer about new passes:
-better overall skin quality and amount of styles for each skin
-less filler
-less of a grind
-being able to get it through the crew pack
-the original skins all fitting the season's theme
-the skins feeling more like characters with personality, instead of just outfits
-the progression system being based around in-game levels instead of having battle stars as a seperate way of progression
-2D loading screens made by artists that were specifically commisioned for them (and the artists being credited in the description)
I agree with a lot that you said but also disagree with some
-I think the skin quality has gone down, battle pass skins now only get one style that just has different clothing and the rest are recolors. While yes some skins back then only had recolor styles, they were made up with the multiple progressive skins that each battle pass had which all had an insane amount of styles with good quality
-I think battle passes now have more filler, especially with edit styles taking up so many tiers. These styles could easily be made into challenges you get when unlocking the skin like how it was in chapter 1 but they all take up battle pass slots. Also in chapter 1 we had stuff like pets and toys that weren't filler at all
-Personally I think battle passes being a bit harder to grind was better and more rewarding. This one is just personal preference tho, and I understand why they're easier now especially with bonus rewards going all the way up to level 200
-I feel like skins now don't have much personality. Compare recent battle passes to ones like chapter 2 season 2 where each skin got so much personality and attention which lead to that battle pass being so memorable
@@89carti
I'll just reply to your points about skin quality & personality, because the other points are completely subjective and I think what you said about those is fair.
Obviously it's also subjective how much you enjoy current skins compared to older ones, but I feel like the edit styles we get now don't offer much less customization than the ch1 ones. For example the Brite Raider skin from this pass has 3 normal color options, a helmet on or off option and 3 super style color options. Compare this to the Drift skin where you have 5 clothing options and a vfx effect you can put on the fifth clothing style. No color or mask options at all. It boils down to personal preference in the end but I think being able to run a completely different colorway on a skin makes much more of a difference than putting a vest on it and nothing else.
The point about skin personalities is a bit less subjective imo. Skins nowadays all have unique facemodels (except for stuff like Vengeance Jones, since he's a new rendition of an existing character) compared to older skins which often used one of the 8 default models. Epic also puts new characters on the map as npcs who have unique dialogue, which helps a lot. That plus having theme songs, own pois on the map and appearing in story quests just gives them more character to me. They're less iconic than older outfits of course, but that's inevitable since we have thousands of skins atp. I definitely agree on your opinion about the ch2 s2 battle pass, that one was great. Though by older battle passes I exclusively meant chapter 1 passes
@@froggo9539 I see what you mean, and you are definitely right about the skin personalities. You mentioned a lot that I wasn't keeping in mind, but I still feel like these are just small things that aren't really memorable. I think they could do much better to make the personalities show more, since I feel like most people aren't really going to remember stuff like npc dialogue. Now for drift I agree he would have been better with stuff like color styles, not sure why he didn't get any color styles when both carbide and calamity, the tier 1 skins before and after him had color styles. But I'd say catalyst makes up for that, since she's the best of both worlds. Brite raider is cool but her styles don't seem too interesting but obviously that's up to preference. Her styles are just recolors and one adds a helmet that changes nothing else. She could have been so much cooler if she was somehow progressive
I whole heartily believe that Drift to this day is still the best battle pass skin ever released
Considering the insane amount of drift reskins there are, that is probably true
It's a tough choice, but Omega has always been my favorite skin, and having all his edit styles is prob my proudest achievement in FN lol. Well, except having the full gold Agent Peely from reaching lvl 350 in CH2 S2.
My fav and always will be is Valor
Omega is my favorite too, i dont have it, but i still love the simple but cool design
Yeah agreed. Probably one of the best. I have summer drift, Sanctum, and Drift walker.
Something about the simplicity of older seasons just made them so much better. Now we're just getting already existing characters from other games. No originality
So every skin in the current bp is a collab?
@@ltisdabest21no but almost every battle pass has at least one collaboration skin. either it’s in the pass already or it’s a secret skin which is just one waste of a slot for an original character
@@Wano-KunoHow is it a “waste of a slot”, most of the time the skin is good
Even with fortnite's original skins, they reuse themes from their own characters way too much (in the battle pass not the item shop.) What I'm saying is this new "Rust" "The Machinist" and especially that brite raider have got to go in the item shop. We already have skins like those.
@MichealAfton1983 even whether the skin is or isn't good it doesn't feel as rewarding as a unique character. Would you rather get a new character that unlocks styles or colors throughout the pass or quests like some of the chap 1 skins, or another iteration of thor or something with 1 or 2 styles and an emote. And I don't hate the collabs directly, I like some of the skins like the new iron spider and some non-skin items from c2s4 (which I don't mind because it is supposed to be a marvel season), but there are so many of the marvel skins and items that including them in the battle pass constantly feels more filler than a reward. And it doesn't help that the new item shop is just a full on catalog with the same items for as long as you need. Like it feels like a fluke when I see an older skin I recognize and like in the item shop, despite it still being overshadowed by the same collab skins in the shop for the last week.
I Don't mind the lowering of the amount of cosmetics as a whole, because fortnite had a lot more to experiment back in chapter 1. What i don't like now is that we have bonus tiers now which, apart from the super styles feel like bloat and a way to extend play time in regards to FOMO. Why are we adding lego sets and rocket racing cars to the battle pass when it's supposed to be all about battle royale. For the lego mode if we're not getting our content in updates then why is the customization content being paywalled in the shop as well.
Progressive skins were way better in concept and execution. AND i believe you could work on unlocking styles after the season had ended.
Also having collab skins of some of the most iconic characters expected to never return (Gaming legends, Marvel, Star wars) is just cruel
CH1 Season 2 - CH2 Season 6 Were amazing and i wish we went back to them. 😢
ikr I agree with you so much...I wish we could go back all over again to when Fortnite just got released...I miss the OG times so much....so much nostalgia man 😭 and even Fortnite's "OG Season" was a fake bro they took old skins and modified them 😭😭😭
Good news!! We will!
@@Wolfie_the_Reaperdude you understand that they can’t f*cking release old battle pass skins legally because that was part of their deal.
Remember when you actually had a tier 100 skin instead of a built in emote that unlocks an additional style? And when battle stars weren’t a thing? I liked the old stuff way better.
yes i HATEEEE battlestars and fortnite has gone too lazy with their BP
Battle stars were a thing 😂
@@AcousticBros69 but not for the battle pass
@@AcousticBros69 They were completely different tho
@@Ace2cozzy They were the way to level up the bp so yes they were for the bp
Old passes felt so rewarding to complete, but now challenges are so easy you will complete them without even knowing what they are, now it’s too easy for battle passes. And they are just cash grabs
removing skin rarities was sad, sure it didnt serve much of a purpose but a legendary skin being earned at the end or unlocking all the stages for a legendary skin was so cool
I miss the map, the skins, the weapons and content, how progressive the battle pass was and the simplicity of it all. Wanting to get the cosmetics soo badly, now idc for any of that in this game. The season OG they released awhile ago brought back all of that monetarily and they only let us have it for a month. They need to make that a separate feel for people who miss that
Good to see youtubers like you talking about the old battlepasses i dont like the new battle stars system its just boring and not rewarding these days the battlepasses are just lazy and are just carried by collabs i dont like it
I agree with you so much man...I keep watching Fortnite make new battle passes and when I see the next season coming I think "Oh, well here comes another bad season 💀" I feel like this season is more about the cars than the actual players....😢
Then don't play the game. Every season and battlepass since CH4 have been great with one or two exceptions. The problem isn't the game bud it's you so go find something else to play and stop crying😂
"Oh, well here comes another bad season" is going to sum up the next season for me if the season is going to be Marvel themed. I don't have an interest in Marvel and having a battle pass themed around specific IPs like that is just a bad idea in my opinion. I like when the season has a general theme and skins revolve around that and can vary greatly.
@@brandonstarstorm3289 I agree with you. Fortnite was much better when they would make up ideas for BPs instead of copying Marvel or Star Wars.
@@STK_Itsuka You must be a new player, because if you started in Season 1 you would be just as upset as I am. I'm not crying, I'm just an OG player from Season 1 that's mad at Fortnite's dumb decisions to copy other games/movies instead of making up their own stuff like they used to. And by the way, I have stopped playing Fortnite for a little bit, but since they're supposed to have Titled Towers back, I'm gonna see what it's all about, and if it's garbage, I'll just resume to playing RDR2 which is a WAY better game. And what I mean is that BR Fortnite is garbage. Creative is still okay, and that's the only thing I'd ever play. And they also copied COD, with Ranked Mode. Fortnite's Ranked mode used to be ARENA with Hype Points. And if you knew anything, the game isn't the problem, the problem is EPIC GAMES being lazy.
@@STK_Itsuka Well if you're going to start using uneducated words, keep your opinions to yourself. I'm just voicing my opinion and you don't need to start using the words "Dumbass" and "moron" just because I'm replying to your comment and letting you know what I think about the way Fortnite is now. I apologize if I offended you by assuming you were a new player. If you like the way Fortnite is now, I can respect that you have your own likes and dislikes, I was just saying I don't like the way Epic Games has changed Fortnite.
1:48 this isn’t really true because to unlock megladon or any of the skins you have to finish the whole page. Also if you just don’t collect something from the pass, at the end of the season they will automatically collect
Also I think the extra Xp as rewards is such a good idea especially since it’s so hard to level up now
At this point I realized bro is crying over things that makes no sense.
Everything is the same, only thing different is nowadays we have better and detailed skins instead of default skins with different styles from C1.
@@hellween-He has a couple valid points but a lot of the things he’s complaining about aren’t even bad, hell he’s complaining about good things. Why is he annoyed about extra edit styles for skins?
@@wet0wl he's more annoyed with the fact that they're included WITHIN the battlepass, not that they have extra styles. Those tiers that the extra styles are taking up could be replaced with something else rather than having the edit style within the battlepass. Back then, no styles were included within the pass, they were given by doing challenges and to add onto it, they were progressive too by reaching a certain level. The point is that we could be getting other rewards in place of those and just unlocking the edit styles by other means like challenges and yes we may get additional styles for completing quests and leveling up after level 100 but quantity doesn't always necessarily mean the quality is good. Instead of having 4 different colored variants of a singular skin, we could have a singular different variant that looks good or hell, a progressive skin that as you put work into it, it starts to look better and better. That's his point in the video.
I definitely miss the secret skin being original like the prisoner, not just some collab
Remember when you could get the Battle Pass and as long as you got to level 100 you had pretty much unlimited time to work and unlock the edit styles? I miss that.
Battle stars ruined battle passes for me it gives the illusion of choice you need level 96 to be able o buy the final skin yet you need to buy everything before to be able to buy the last skin which makes it a tier 100.
we need to keep fighting for bring back the old battle pass skins
Only type of people I hate when it comes to battle passes, is that they buy the entire thing. And then complain that there’s nothing to grind for.
Ppl were saying Fortnite died in chapter 2 but it really started to die chapter 4
Every new battle pass back in chapter one was new and innovative like toys, backblings, and pets (rip btw) I miss Donald Mustard as creative director
I love how we always look at the past and make it look like it was something amazing but when those times were current, we used to hate on it. We talked so much trash about it happens in eco We hate the current product and look back on the past like it was so great. Never fails.
You have to get every single reward prior to a skin in order to unlock it, so in the case of the level 100, you HAVE to unlock everything else
Currently the tier 100 these past few seasons is a transformation emote for the tier 90 skin.
Awesome video!
Straight to the point!
You covered some things that I never even thought of in that way. Thanks for the new perspective!
I also 100% agree with what you said about pets and toys. It would be awesome to see them back in the game! I use Kitsune, Kyo and Ohm all the time. It would be cool to add some more to the collection!
Saw people on twitter judging the video by its thumbnail so I went to watch for myself. Good video with good points, just a few that I disagree with but overall it was nice to hear opinions voiced such as yours presented in this video. I don't see much of it said often so thank you for this
The only problem I see with this argument is the grind for one level back then, I use to play every day during season 6, did every quest and daily quest, hell I even used vbucks from the battlepass to buy levels… I only got to level 92. I’m much happier now that the grind is less hard
i miss secret skins where we actually had something to look forward to every single time we completed all the weekly tasks, we would all unlock the loading screens and seek the secret banner or battle star as well as see the clues to what might come in the future of the season, the time before deadpool where we weren't spoiled day one for what its to come, the time where most of these skins mattered to the current season story and for the next one. this loading screens would also connect to what was happening during the updates, were we would see digging sites near the lake and we would see the characters discovering it. there was so much involvement between the player's progression and the season's progression. our excitement for new updates didn't come from seeing videos on youtube of leaked stuff, instead we would all hear and find out about them in game, with clues and not just a twitter post announcing a collab.
And this is why I’m glad I bought all CHPTR1 season 2 through x battle passes and maxed them out because I knew nothing like them would come back again.
Something I miss with the old battle pass was how creative it was. If you look at season 5 chapter 1 for example. We got a sushi spray, tic tac toe banner, a potato aim spray. Nowadays all tiers is dedicated to the page skin and you can’t really get creative with the stuff you get.
I miss battle stars...
For me, what has made the battles passes less good is the removal of the evolving skins, because in fact the skins in the latest passes aren't so bad in the sense that there are some good ones like the crystal guy from season 1 chapter 5, Nisha or even skins in the season 2 chapter 4 pass like Renzo, Mizuki, the galaxy samurai chick. But for me what made a battle pass good was those evolving skins, now they make us grind on super styles, super styles have become boriiiinnng asfff, I prefer when he had two skins that you max well, I find it much more interesting than just color styles.
i think the battle pass from fortnite OG gives a taste of what those old battle pass skins were like which makes it the best battle ever for me
I think the problem is that fortnite realised that they don’t have to try on a skin because they can put a collab in there and the skins would be gone in 3 months
I just wish Fortnite would bring back these old battle passes. It would make Fortnite feel like Fortnite again.
This^ 100%
i get your point about the tier 100 skins, but you still do have to have claimed every other item, even in the new ones, before you can claim the last one
Part of the reason I wouldn’t care if they brought back older parts is simply due to the fact the items were nice, they put a lot more effort into their own creation. Epic seems to have lost that more and you can tell, and if you played through the whole battle pass back in the day there was enough free vbucks earned to get the battle pass for free. Only issue I had back then is you couldn’t finish your it battle pass when the next season came out, I still use the water balloon and soccer toy ngl.
I miss the ch2 s2 pick your faction system
this is such a made up issue, both the quality and the amount of rewards have increased incredibly, the whole arguement that "you can just unlock megalodon but in the good ol' days you had to get to tier 100 for omega" is just pure bullshit. You HAVE to have everything else in a battlepass unlocked before u can get the final skin, and dont go with the fkn ultima knight bullshit cuz if you actually played in season X you would know what kind of bullshit challanges u needed to unlock both the origin knight style and the red style (pretty much that ages superlevel rewards), if you only reached tier 100 which i did with my account level being something like 37 you would only unlock the base style, and recently when i tried to match with my friends they didnt have silver ultima knight nor the origin style so dont try to bullshit your way through
and please, we still get the same amount of rewards you used to "back in the day" you just dont notice it cuz its all on the same line nowadays , you get 5 stars per level, and some rewards shocker cost less than 5 stars 😨
and wtf kind of an arguement is that the ability to chose your rewards is bad? if i want to speedrun to a skin i can save up stars and skip the skins i dont gaf, me personally i think this is a good thing
the only thing you got right is 2 skins compared to 1 right now on tier 1, but the skin being spread out isnt much of an issue in my opinion but i can see how it can annoy you.
"with so much filler that is clogging up todays battlepasses like banner icons, emoticons etc" like holy fuck do you remember when they introduced sprays? every page had 5 of them out of 10 slots, do you remember when they introducted toys? yes you do cuz u mentioned it but u didnt mention how they'd have 2 recolors of the same toy "clogging" up the battle pass
and xp bonuses seriously dont matter cuz epic already gives so much xp, you can get 15/20 levels a day in under 2 hours by just knowing what gamemodes to play
"technique battlehawk , sledgehammer, squadleader, valor skins people used to consider to be decent skins at the time even without styles" NO??? everyone was hyped about the fact that s4 and s5 had these skins that HAD the edit styles, and why is having more rewards like the peabody slap style a bad thing? would you rather get another banner and a spray like we used to in the good ol times instead of an extra FREE variant to a skin
put off the nostalgia glasses cause the ammount of shit you get in the battlepasses has been reduced a LOT and this is just a complaint to complain
Thanks for saying this, tired of these youtubers with nostalgia goggles just crying for made up issues.
So true, I really don’t get the hate for the newer battle pass system. It’s not even bad in any way. You still get a hundred rewards, it’s easy to level up, you can choose which rewards you want, you still get extra styles, vbucks, and 8 skins. People need to start appreciating what they have more before it’s gone.
I think if we got
The progression from the old
And the content from the new ones
That would be a better pick
wow you actually put out a good argument 🫂
okay so let me ask this whats special about the battlepasses now when everyone can unlock it easily why not get rid of the battlepass and just put the skins in the store
Especially the old skins! because nowadays people like myself only buy the battle passes for Collab skins :/
I also just wish Epic would start making good skins in general for the battle pass. All the skins nowadays largely just kind of suck. Like remember Black Knight, Reaper, Rust Lord, Dark Voyager, Omega, Ice King, Catalyst, Lynx, Vendetta, or Ultima Knight? The only skins in the battle pass that have interested in me over the past couple years are the crossover skins, the original skins suck ass like 85% of the time. I rarely ever buy battle passes because nowadays there’s only like 1-2 actually good or cool skins. We honest to God didn’t know how great we had it back in chapter 1.
They also need to work on emotes, in all respect but the recent battle pass emotes suck. For this season I understand as it's marvel themed but the other seasons got no reason for their best emote to be a short little action when back in the day you'd get legendary dances like the orange justice, flamingo, etc.
I don't mind edit styles, but it would be nice if they just came with the skin/pickaxe/glider/whatever when you buy the normal version, this way they could still be a thing cause having options is nice, but not hog pages that could be used for other things.
I also think we should go back to having separate tracks for the battle pass. If we did that, then the free stuff would have their own separate slots and that's a few extra slots for additional rewards in the full battle pass.
2:50 how is it a downgrade when you get the same amount of skins in each battle pass
Facts, i agree Fortnite has a lot of issues but this guy is just picky
I can’t explain how much I miss seeing pets in the battle pass. They got me more hyped than the tier 100…They literally have a bunch of animals as options but they just don’t make them anymore.
tbh, i just wish epic gave us newer players a chance to get the older battlepasses, and maybe bring back older seasons in a more effiecent way. oh and stop the item shop rotation. but yea, i see old battle passes and i just feel like i missed out on so much, i hate fomo and how epic is using it
they need to fix so much with the game but they just wanna focus on getting as many collabs as possible as if quantity is perferable over quality (it isnt)
Fr, it sucks butt now.
@@ToastyBoi2005 exactly, im rather new in actually playing the game consistently, like epic could make the game so much better but insteads does crap like remove rarities and other things that NO ONE asked for
I agree with this, though I do have some things to say.
I agree with the battle pass not needing whole pages just for an alternate style for a character, but I do like when skins are customizable and have different color variations. When you unlock the skin, a pick axe, or a glider, you should immediately unlock all color variants for it as well. I dislike when you unlock a skin and then the glider, but you have to wait a whole month for the quest reward to come out so you can unlock the glider color that goes with the skin.
There's a lot of wasted space on current passes due to edit styles. It would have been cool to have Scarr on one page, and then the hyena concept art skin on the next page. They could be the same color and have different, interchangeable cosmetics that compliment each other. (Also, I'll be pissed if we don't get the hyena skin at all. I don't care if it becomes a store skin for 2000 Vbucks, that's one of the cooler concept art skins. Scarr is also one of the most disliked battle pass skins from what I've seen).
With pets, I wholeheartedly agree that we need more of them. I still use a few of my pets (Some of them, I barely use because I can't unlock all the colors currently and would like a way to unlock the colors I missed). I love the little wolf back bling and use him fairly often. Some more would be nice. I know we occasionally get similar back blings like Billie's dog or the hermit crab, but more pets on the little chairs would be nice. Especially ones that are reactive, like the chameleon changing color every time you pick up an item.
Finally, I'd like to say, I would love if they excluded cars, instruments, and LEGO builds from the normal battle pass. They take up space and I barely use them. Instruments should be put on the Festival pass instead. LEGO builds should not be on the Battle Royale pass at all, since they aren't usable in Battle Royale. While people say it was a free reward and didn't take up space, it still took time to develop. They could have spent that time making an extra contrail for the pass instead of something that isn't usable in the mode the pass was made for.
Remember when tier 1 skins were actually good 😢
NAHHHHH I THOUGHT THEY WERE WORSE
I think once every 5 months there was a bundle where when you buy it you choose which battle pass skin bundle you want let's say you chose Mids you get the whole Mids bundle and it will cost 1,600 V Bucks because you also only get one bundle for the price of one and a half battle pass and you also choose only one for six months what do you say I cooked or not
The one thing we want simpler but we don’t get it simpler
Personally they should resell older battle passes call me stupid, crazy, etc… but still some people can’t get their dream skin because it’s a locked skin from 6 years ago
True, it would ruin the "Rareness" or whatever but then again, this would be a big win for Epic. Maybe during the OG seasons? Or something like that.
100% agree with you.
You should have played back then🤷🏻♂️ they do more than enough reskins
i dont like how easy it is to level up in battle passes, i miss the weekly battle starts hidden in the loading screens and fun challenges not just dealing damaged while crouched or something the game just doesnt feel as goofy / fun anymore
They have to make it easier, cuz not everyone has the time to play Fortnite 24/7 because of school/work.
@@vernal5545they didn’t care about that then, you had to be there or be square during the season, until overtime was introduced
@@drchanciepoo you don’t have any proof that people didn’t care, just because you can play the game 24/7 doesn’t mean other people can.
back then skins were beautiful, majestic, stylish and so on. but now skins are just ugly and gay...
Technically Master Key, Sentinel and Yon3r had an edit style at tier 99 6:42 but I fully agree with everything you said
1:52 no, you cannot skip the rewards until you reach level 100, it requires you to have purchased the rest of the pass, investigate more
Back then when the game was simple, the game was better and there were less complaints. Chapter 1 was PERFECT. It’s when they started adding extra shit early-mid chapter 2, that’s when this game started going down hill fr and they think adding more unwanted shit makes it better. Idk why they find it so hard to just make the chapter 1 map separate or permanent for ppl who wanna play it and just make battle passes simple, original and with no or barely any collabs. This game went downhill badly and the ppl holding on this game need to realize this game is not fun anymore
The only reason i bought the current battlepass was for the T60 power armor. If not for that, i probably wouldnt have bought it
MegaloDon is cool and the Brite Raider with the helmet reminds me of Twister from Twisted Metal 2 but I'll rarely even play those.
This been happening sense chapter 2 and I don't think they are changing anytime soon as most of their fanbase now is new players who only knew this game for a year or two and they have to applied to new players but they failed to realize is that their old system was much better as the player counts during summer 2018 vs summer 2024 is very drastic, and most of us the og players left the game long time ago as it was not what we are used too, but if they fixed the system and the battle pass and notice the decrease in player count they will get (at least some of us) back to the game and also realism is also killing the game as this game was not supposed to have cars collabs every 2 seconds it supposed to be cartoony and adventure type of game that's why it was so appealing to many players man I don't even know why they make the changes worse😥
The 100 tier system with extra quests for specific skin styles and rewards felt much more rewarding as not everything had an edit style, and you had to do something extra other than grinding tiers to unlock it, which made them feel special and not just something you get anyway by getting higher tiers. Additionally, having set values for tiers and not having any way to skip them made the progression consistent, unlike now with quest XP and random XP values per level that fluctuate between each season just making getting tiers feel messy. When weekly quests came out in chapter 1 you knew that you will get the same amount of tiers each time, and now you get a randomized amount of tiers based on your current level. I have a lot more to say about why older passes felt better, but this comment is already too long.
I do think the older battlepasses were better overall, not to say there's not been any good ones in recent years there have been plenty that I enjoyed. However, I think Older Battle Passes were definitely better, modern Battle passes for some reason seem to have less stuff overall, which is rather unfortunate, modern battle passes also use the Battlestar system which has its pros and cons. Now instead of getting something every level you get something every 3 or 4 levels.
One other thing that I'm not sure of, is that tier 100 skins have been replaced by variants of the skin on the previous page. I'm not one to turn down skin variants, but I also would like it if they didn't sacrifice tier 100 skins.
I liked playing Fortnite back then and actually trying to get to the tier 100 skin , not just by lvling up but actually doing the weekly quests for battle stars , plus not having to stress about extra super styles. You actually had to grind for the tier 100 back then, also they screwed up the gliders , instead of having reskins of the og blue glider we get gianormous ch2 gliders we can’t even see half the screen with
What you have a choice now but you really don’t have a choice bro. So it’s still a grind. What you said makes no sense. You can’t get the tier 100 skin now without unlocking everything. So you really have no choice. lol
To expand your point on the on seperate free and paid battle pass, i believe that the toal amount of rewards we got was 125 ish. which, guess what is the roughly the exact same amount we got for not just completeing the battlepass, but the ''bonus" rewards and, the quest rewards (which includes the base versions of some items???)
and the 'secret' styles. They are just FOMO filler.
Played since season 2. I really Miss the simplicity of the old battle pass
Nobody care about pets and toys from what I see 😂 even in game
Bro, you’re wrong. It’s not just season 8-10 that has 2 tier 1 skins, it was season 4-13
Chapter 1 Season 4 was peak bro idc, No battlepass will ever beat it.
You do know that tier 100 skins are technically unobtainable unless you get everything else, and even if you want to say that getting their base style can be the option, you still need to reach the level 80s to attain them.
I can kinda give you that for the free knicknacks, but it seems like they also just gives you xp as the alternative. Though xp boosts are definitely better then stickers and emoticons.
Doesn't the secondary skins also have matching cosmetics, while simultaniously keeping star counts low since its been always 8 skins?
Outside of that i agree with the rest.
You still have to reach tier 100 to claim the final reward.
How Fortnite structures it's battle passes today are way better then how they used to be in terms of accessibility and time spent to fully complete each pass, but I will still agree in terms of how they format the pass I do have my own personal issues with.
I wanna start off this rant by saying I disagree with the point that grinding these passes are hard, and we need xp boosts to fill out slots in the pass. I am a babysitter of 3 kids who I take care of most of the week and often find myself with barely any personal free time to really sit down and play Fortnite. but I've never not reached tier 200, with all bonus rewards, quest rewards, and bonus skin completed. Same with the kids I take care of, they on their own are able to fully complete the passes by themselves with no help from me at all. They do not play the game every day and often end up not playing for weeks at a time but still manage to finish their passes, but that is mainly because they play the other modes. I personally hate Fortnite is now a metaverse platform with a major push towards UGC content rather then just continuing to be a live service game from Epic, but everyone is typically able to finish their passes as long as they are willing to put in time to playing the other modes. Epic should buff the xp battle royale gives while also adding xp playtime boost the other modes give so battle royale is an actual viable method of leveling up your pass! Maybe try and do more frequent double xp weekends to encourage people to play more often rather then leaving the game to be super soulless and dry consistently each season.
With that rant being out of the way, here is some of my personal gripes that I feel are genuine problems in the battle passes we get now.
- Collab's
I think Collab's being shoved into each pass to seemingly meet some sorta quota is really unfair, and my reason isn't just because "oh, Collab's are ruining the game!" My primary issue is using iconic characters to shill a pass and them no longer coming back again is so upsetting, especially when trying to convince someone new to get interested into the game. Darth Vader, The Predator, Mandalorian, Peter Griffin, and a whole arsenal of Marvel characters physically cannot come back and it's gut wrenching to see people not able to obtain these. Personally they can take up a slot in the pass, I am fine enough with only getting 7 skins a pass (2 Collab's in one pass is way too much!) But they should return to the shop eventually, but the ultimate way of dealing with this situation is just shove them in their own mini-pass or some major scale event since they like making items related to the Collab's within the pass and leave the battle pass completely original!
(Quick personal note here, but c5s2 was intended to be a completely original pass but Korra was shoved in last second, this is supported by the earlier description of Ares' cinematic trailer stating he was a battle pass skin, the description stated he was the bonus skin of that pass. Another detail that could be spotted in-game, upon fighting him, an icon appears at the start of the fight to alert the battle has been started, a different helmet design was used for Ares. This helmet design isn't featured on him or his minions but actually the helmet he had in his concept art! This implies that when Ares was a battle pass skin instead of being forced into Fortnite crew, he was going to have modular parts instead of just having a singular color alt. His concept art also implies he had an bronze color alt on top of the black style and the red style!)
- Alt styles
Alt styles in specifically c3s2 was handled perfectly in terms of being a final reward in the page but unlocking that alt gave you several rewards. The imagined when you got her purple alt, not only gave you a helmet style, it gave you a color alt for her ENTIRE set, this condenses the reward clutter and make styles taking up tier slots in the pass feel more rewarding and overall should be how Fortnite distributes color alts. Chapter 4 and onwards has this ridiculous issue of only just presenting a color alt for the base skin and that's all you get. Biggest example I can think of off the top of my head, I was really excited to see a pink Artemis color alt in the pass mainly because it was a color pallet they rarely use, but getting disappointed right after when that was the only part of the set that had actually had gotten the color alt. Solution? Either just make the color alts separate challenges to keep players actively playing the game (Make it like fortbytes if they really want too ig) or just go back to how they handled it before.
- Tier arrangement
This is just nitpicking rather then being more of a genuine complaint. Epic really needs to revaluate where they put skins in the pass, make the lamer skins early pass and leave the more heavy designs for later on. c4s3 is a good example for how weird tier placements can be, leaving characters with more complex designs be the tier 1 of the pass, but the most basic skin design you've ever seen be tier 10? Simplicity isn't bad but I do miss when more badass skins were later on in the pass, made it feel more rewarding to put in the grind and earn those skins. Building up to a final reward sometimes barely feel genuine, but I feel they've been getting better at LEAST with the tier 100's but that's the only thing they've improved on. I don't like Cerberus, but I do like The Machinist, them being Tier 1's is so incredibly lame but that's just my personal take!
Overall despite me not fully agreeing with most points brought up in this video, it's a great topic of discussion and I want to thank you for bringing it up and really build up talk so Epic can hopefully take some points as suggestions on how they can improve the game!
I mean, you still have to get to Tier 100 to get Megalodon. They don't let you choose ANY skin just out of order, you still have to grind. There are still level requirements
Me that played in Season 4 but didnt get the Orange Justice Emote 😔 😭 , it was SUCH a Good , Og and Iconic Emote and Iconic Music , that it was soo duuumb of my oast self NOT EVEN THIINKING that " ohhh... I started play this game now for the first time on ps4 slim mm....maybe until I spend some money to unlock my first bp " which was in season 7 for Christmas, " I should just see what the Free Track has to offer and if its sth good I ll grind for it " . Tier 23 wasnt that hard to unlock
To counter the Megalo Don point, the 'choose what you want' only applies if you're getting his first version. But since you said tier 100, that would prove your point false, because you need everything else in the battle pass in order to get the tier 100 reward.
Besides that, I completely agree with everything you said. The battle pass has a LOT of problems which could easily be fixed.
Yes that’s what I mean’t to say lol
God days and old days are gone. Now the days are getting worser and worser sorry to say and not just regarding the video games and fortnite but also in the world days are getting worser and worser.
Fr I miss when battle stars functioned like this and not the XP thing we have now
it use to take weeks to get too tier 100 (unless you payed $$)
now its just takes a week
One thing, you cannot get the tier 100 without getting level 100, they block it even if you have enough stars.
Chapter 1 battlepasses only got better when Season 5 came out
Those edit styles they put in the passes are often times better than the base skin and sometimes I won’t even run the base version because the edit style is soo much better. I think edit styles are a much better reward than crap like emojis and sprays. I think that newer skins having lost of edit styles makes them far superior because some people might only like one style.
Yeah you got 3 skins at the start but then you got nothing till way later on
Personally I like the stars system cuz it means you can get the rewards you actually want sooner but I do with the rewards would be a bit more varied, I feel like a mix between the old system and the new would work best
Season 4- Chapter 2 Season 3 was the elite days of battle passes
I don’t think that they were necessarily better, we were just less accustomed to the art styles of Fortnite back then.
for megalodon: u talking about the tier 90 version or the tier 100 version? tier 90, u can get the skin once u reach it. though his second style, u HAVE to redeem everything else in base pass.
(yes, im specifying just incase)
i say fortnite doesnt care anymore, there game is just a promotional money making machine for them. They dont care what the coomunity says I mean it just shows more and more each chappter how each one gets shorter. Fortnite is out of ideas. such as live events, updates, weapons, shit they said the next season will be all marvel like? not to mention battle passes will never be the same. Its like what happened with save the world they stopped giving it updates and didnt care about it anymore, feels kinda the same way with battle royale right now. with them, adding things such a Lego or Fortnite festival. There game isnt dead I would say, but theya re trying to keep on an idea that is 7 years old now and people will realize its teh same shit every season, every chapter and every live event. There is no story anymore and that is what made the game fun.
great video though and I agree with how battle passes are truly so shit now, they dont try like they used too.
Maybe you are right but the reasoning isn’t. Chapters being shorter does nothing in itself, the live events being lesser and story content being reduced is true, however they are bringing back the story from chapter 5 slowly. Save the worlds situation was completely different because it had a minimal amount of players, battle Royale from the time it launched had more players then save the world, while you could combine Lego / festival / racing and it would still not reach the numbers of battle Royale, I’m sure br isn’t gonna get abandoned because while there is a loop, it’s an incredibly fun loop, which is why the games been alive for 7 years.
1:54 Actually no, you can't skip to Megalo Don. You still have to unlock everything in the battlepass before you can get him.
Why is it so hard to hit tier 100 now did they nerf xp?
Na it’s easier to get xp playing br or no builds and creator maps
@@nazareth6262 get no xp playing creative and ranked only get 5 levels per day
@@SosaIDK5 levels a day means 35 levels a week. which means 140 levels a month. 5 levels a day is fine
@@willowpop15 I hit 210 yesterday
What’s the background music from the beginning?
I feel like new battle passes have lost identity. Battle passes back in chapter 1 and early chapter 2 were so iconic with not only just players but also people outside the game. Everybody knows skins like drift, calamity, lynx, peely, midas, etc. They used to give so much attention and character to the skins in the old battle passes. They gave them so much personality, like remember drift and his friend group in those roadtrip loading screens? Also in chapter 2 season 2 arguably one of the most iconic battle passes ever, gave each character unique personalities with their own cutscenes, rooms, pois, mythics, etc. They also had styles you could individually choose for each skin which made you kind of bond with that skin to choose the style you prefer. Most people are able to name every character in that battle pass, even the less popular ones like brutus or tntina. That's also not even mentioning the challenges they used to give skins in the old battle passes so you could unlock their styles and extra rewards outside of the main battle pass. Now I feel like battle passes rely on collabs for their identity/selling point. I mean honestly do most people even remember most of the battle pass skins nowadays outside of the collab skin? They are just not memorable or iconic anymore and fortnite barely does anything to help that. They don't give them personality and they don't give them stuff like challenges to unlock styles or extra rewards for them. I also think stuff like overtime challenge styles were both so much better and memorable than super styles
Also it sucks that new players can't get stuff like pets or toys anymore since 99% of them were locked behind old battle passes. I think there's like one pet and toy that can be bought in the item shop but they only ever come back once every year or two. I really thought for season OG they were gonna introduce a new pet and toy in the OG pass since they were both such a big part of chapter 1 battle passes. Like some ideas I thought they could maybe do is a mashup pet of bonesy and the merry munchkin to make a gingerbread dog or maybe a taco toy to match the tomato and durrr burger toys we've gotten before but nope
I want you to name any other bp skin that wasn't the most popular skins from the old bps. I rarely see anyone mention people like Valor, Zoey, and Sledgehammer so I completely disagree that they used to give so much details to older skins, especially when all new bp skins get multiple styles. I agree that unlocking their cosmetics through challenges was good. I don't know how a character that has dialogue, poi, loading screens, and an npc are less memorable than skins that never did anything. All chapter 5 skins have done more and had more importance than most chapter 1 skins. You mention the reason why they don't put pets and toys in the bp and yet still are upset.
@@ltisdabest21 Yes there were less popular skins but I'd argue people still know who they are. The thing about current battle passes is none of the skins stick except for the collabs. You mention npc dialogue and stuff but honestly who is going out of their way to read all that? The main way to read npc dialogue is to actively search for it on twitter which not many people do. The loading screens they get are alright, but if they did those storyline loading screens again I'd argue the characters would have more personality within those and people would actively see what's going on with the characters and the story of the season. Also most of the battle pass skins now only get recolor styles. Only 3 out of the 7 skins in the main battle pass this season have a style that actually changes something and it's pretty much just clothing with maybe a new mask. Now I know the immediate argument is "chapter 1 skins also had recolor styles or none at all" which is fair, but I think that's made up by the progressive skins. The progressive skins are basically two skins in one, starting as one skin and each style making them better and better until the last style which looks like a completely different and cooler skin. Battle pass skins are obviously gonna have recolor styles no matter old or new which is ok, but wouldn't you rather have 2 or 3 of the skins be progressive? Imagine if the tier 1 skin this battle pass was progressive, she would have been so much cooler and memorable especially if you had to earn her styles through challenges. Also where exactly did I mention the reason pets and toys aren't in the battle pass anymore? Anytime they're brought up people just say how they should bring them back
Something I really don’t like is how you have to get above level 100 to get all your vbucks it used to be 1500 vbucks in the 100 levels and now a part is put in the extra stuff
As someone who hasn't played fortnte consistently since Season X, I have zero incentive to hop back in purely because of battle passes. I have nothing to grind because I have NO IDEA how the new passes work, the skins aren't even that good and are mostly just advertisements from the next big ip or one from the 80s which I don't get, and it's just way too complex!
Ngl I know this battle pass isn’t like old old only like a couple months old but ngl I kinda wanted Artemis but due to irl stuff i couldn’t get her or any styles
Yeah. I do, sometimes there were ACTUALLY more then 1-2 good skins in 1 battle pass.
Get better preferences then.
Would you ever consider doing a video on how they could bring back old battle passes? Me personally, I think there should be an option to replace the current pass with an old one for the cost of a couple hundred more V-bucks. (And to compensate for the Og owners they could give a new style to a skin or two If the pass they owned reached a certain goal like 500 people purchasing it)
Will consider :)
Yes that would be so amazing!
@@itstrulymysticPlease do!
I believe the reason they won't bring back xp bonuses fir challenges is because of all the new modes and how much xp u can get from them
You have to get tier 100 for the last cosmetic