Roses in Tropical Climates
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Roses are not generally tropical plants, but thanks to the inclusion of a couple of sub-tropical species in the breeding of modern roses, many can take the higher temperatures and moisture of lower latitudes. In this video, I discuss managing roses in times of high temperature, humidity, rainfall - and I also recommend some roses that perform well in tropical gardens.
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Thank you Jason, finally something I can relate to because I live in Papua New Guinea in a place called Lae and the constant rain. Thankfully I have drainage but some of my roses have not bloomed yet like the climbers.
Very funny! Here in the Netherlands we're trying and struggling to plants palms, bananas and olive trees and you're trying to grow roses which grow in almost every garden here!
I love the combination of roses and tropical plants btw!
big yes for tropical plants and roses...🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
I have about 50 roses, all in ground. I live in Queensland Australia, so crazy hot crazy humid, insane sun. They flower all year round. Biggest tips actually living somewhere tropical is plant the graft an inch above ground, prevention spraying for black spot almost year round. Mine are in 100% full sun, they are perfect, they just adapt
Thanks so much for your insight! We hear so much in cool temperate climates about burying the graft union deep, and it's a good reminder that the best knowledge is often local knowledge.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm yep,my mum finally got a bunch last year after seeing mine do well for many years. I told her what to do with regards to planting (which I learnt of an elderly local lady) and she ignored me and went with the packet instructions 😅 (freezing temps where they are grown and shipped from down south and no real wet season either). They grew alright for a bit, but the first time we got a few proper months of rain they died one by one. As soon as she dug them out and replanted with the graft above soil she didn't lose another one.Still in the same raised garden bed 3 years on and they look amazing, was just the one change.
Hope the roses don’t fly out of the ground with the 100km winds we are about to receive in Brisbane 😩 what roses do you mainly grow? I’ve ordered at least 25 bareroot for planting this winter
@@tonitempleton8666 I don't really stress about winds, I'm in Mackay and most have seen several cyclones now with no issues. It's easy enough to stake them though if need be but I've never needed to. It's super humid and wet here, so I should grow more disease resistant varieties but honestly I totally ignore all that and just get whatever I like the look of. They all seem to fare the same. I've got mostly hybrid teas, probably 70% and the rest are floribundas. I actually just planted 10 bare roots today. My best performers up here are soul sister, st Patrick's, Harry wheatcroft, mothers love,Virgo, full sail, black magic. They flower year long here,no winter dormancy, I would say you will be the same in Brissy.
@@heythere5817 Cool, I grow miniatures up in Townsville in terracotta pots - being the dry tropics it's ideal, they bloom all year round - just got to keep the water up with slow release fertiliser.
Ii live in Vietnam, things you are describing is amazing. Thank you for caring about other rose lovers from the world
Thank you! I'm in the southern Caribbean and grew up with roses planted by my mother. These were Dutch roses that she bought bare root from an international chain called Woolworth that had stores here. (That was in the 60s and 70s.) In the 80s and 90s I started growing roses of my own... all HT, including one (Tiffany) that my mother had grown very successfully. I lived in a very wet, hot valley and my battle with black spot was relentless: sulphur, systemic fungicides, the works, would just keep the BS at bay for the better part of one flush. I plan to grow roses again but I have to find varieties that aren't affected by BS because I refuse to use the spray chemicals again. Two that you mentioned here keep coming up in my search, namely Beverly and Belinda's Dream. (BTW, there are varieties that have grown here that never get BS, but I don't know their names. From what I can recall, they are shrub roses. I'm searching for these old local roses too. My mother (now 86) remembers her father's roses (cabbage roses, she says) that also grew well here on the equator.
Thank you so much. I hope that other gardeners from tropical (or subtropical) areas are reading through these comments and will continue to add recommendations. One more resource I just came across is from the Florida Southern College - where they grow plenty of new and especially old roses in a warm climate. Here's their instagram for pics and names: instagram.com/fsc.rosegarden/?hl=en
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you!
I live in Brazil (coastal region) and the temperature range is between 77ºF (Winter) and 93ºF (Summer, at night...). Most modern roses struggle during Spring and Summer (September to March), going into thermo-dormancy (ugly bare branches, occasionally with smaller, ugly and deformed flowers).
Hybrid Perpetuals do perfectly fine (no thermo-dormancy, no diseases), but they are once-blooming...
The biggest secrets to growing roses in extreme heat are:
- An exceptional quality potting mix (commercial or homemade);
- Perfect drainage;
- Careful irrigation (never allow plants to dry completely during heatwaves and warm spells).
Thanks so much for all of these growing tips! I'm always grateful to hear from those with climate-specific growing experience.
I just started growing roses in Houston. I got a number of recommendations from local rose enthusiasts. Belinda’s Dream was at the top of the list! I have that one. Also heard great things about Sunbelt Savannah and the sunbelt roses in general for our heat. I don’t have enough experience yet to form an opinion but looking forward to what the year brings. Hopefully it’s not as hot as last year. We went at least 6 to 8 weeks without rain and temps in upper 90s or above 100.
Thanks. I've grown South Africa and Savannah - both great roses!
Ty for the rose suggestion at the end. I’m from Puerto Rico and I never thought of growing roses in this climate until now. that’s gonna be my gardening goal for 2023 and for 2024 the blooming
Hi Jason thank you so much for the beautiful red heart and the beautiful message stay safe keep well happy and healthy 🌹
From Philippines! Choosing a variety is a must for Tropical Climates. Old Garden roses from Teas, Chinas, Bourbons and Polyantha do well here. :)
I even have a rose named 'Clotilde Soupert' which is prone for balling. Lo and behold! This rose does not care the extremely humid tropical climate.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Where do you buy your roses
Thank you! I am in the tropics ~ Papua New Guinea
Good to hear from you. Any varieties you can recommend?
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Oklahoma rose has been doing well. But the only thing is it's petals always gets scorched.
What a fantastic topic!!
You helped me a lot!☺️
Greetings from India
If my rose bushes could talk, they would say" Thank you Jason!"🌺😃🌺 every single day . Today I used your semi-hard wood method to propagate over a dozen rose plants, I'm so looking forward to my new set of roses come next spring/summer 😊
So happy to hear about your success Marcy.
Hi Marcy are you from PH? Which part? Are you a commercial grower? Thanks
@@coffee4050 Hi! Thank you, hope you are well there! Stay safe!
I think China Roses do well here in the tropics. I've had several of them. I do note that they tend to have "thicker" petals and have a more pronounced "star" or spiked shape when the flower matures, the soft delicate curvy petals are hard to see except for one white Bengal Rose that I do not know the exact variety name. They also fail to create seeds 😅. This is my experience growing roses here in the Philippines, constant 90-80 degrees farenheit throughout the year. Most common pest is actually scale! Thanks for the info Jason. I wish to get more varieties. 😊😇
Will look into them. We have a pale pink rose that I don't know how to identify. Looks like Beverly kinda. Here in southern Africa
Thanks so much Jesse for sharing your experience and success. We don't see much scale here except on houseplants and (seasonally) hydrangea.
Hi Jesse which part of PH are you? Are you a commercial grower?
@@raymundsantos2324 hi! I'm just a home grower. 😁 I live in Albay province 😊
@@JesseJamesPigon me too I'm in Q.C.
I live in Queensland Australia which is considered Subtropical. For me the entire old Tea family, the China's, Noisettes, Hybrid Musks, most Floribunda's and David Austin's all do extremely well.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. Good to hear the DA roses have done so well for you. I hear that some of them are real stars in the American south as well.
Where in Qld are you? I’m planting my first ones in Qld this year.
@@jacintasart6902 hey, I'm in Sunshine coast hinterland.
@@jacintasart6902 I'm in Mackay, so far more tropical than the south of qld, and they thrive :)
@@jacintasart6902 I’m planting my first ones in Brisbane this year, purchased 25 bareroot sand majority are
DA.
Indonesian here. Just inform you, old garden rose, bourbon rose and miniature rose really do well here (in my garden, plant on pot). Its almost become wild roses here. Fyi, altough not near a beach, my location less than 10 meter above the sea level. Here always hot and humid with 33c average all year aroud.
its like sombreuil rose, old blush cina rose, maggie rose, luis phillip rose, archduke charles rose, cherry brandy rose.
the newest, i found moncour and julie andrews rose, really do well for me. they not give alot of bloom but they fast growing and the flower not become smaller. Also rose called perle de jardin do well in my group friend garden.
I’m so glad you made this video I’m in Hawai’i in the middle of winter and I have flowers
I envy your climate!
Just starting to grow roses in Hawaii. Zone 12b Kona on BI about 700 foot elevation. Really have to keep on top of watering so they don't sunburn. The Alnwick Rose is one of the ones doing very well in ground. Queen of Sweden struggles, by contrast but she is still in a pot.
I love how the rose garden is set up I love roses
Thank you so much for the beautiful red heart and the beautiful message and thank you so much for the wonder interesting video 😀🌹❤️ stay safe keep well happy and healthy
Wow Thank you for the tips! I live near equator in Indonesia and I grow some English rose esp David Austin and Japanesse rose. I am very happy because some DA's are growing well here in my place.
Nice to say hello and thank you for your tips on roses in warmer climates. Haven’t been up with gardening and sadly to say, my roses know it. I enjoy your videos all the same, they make me grow in knowledge... I look forward for cooler weather. Summer’s here are too hot!
Thanks Ignacia - I hope you get a nice respite from the heat soon!
Fraser Valley Rose Farm. Thank you Jasón for answering. This sad climate change is also affecting the Baleares Island with drought and far too many days with higher temperatures than usual. I resent these hot summers so does my small garden and plants in pots. Sure look forward to our short winter and dream of winters with real cold and snow. Blessings Jasón.
I am from Indonesia and I grow up some DA roses here: Christopher Marlowe, Juliet, Lady of Shalott. I think I don't have problem with climate, even can't get the optimal size of flower (smaller than the optimal size). Never mind I think. I grow up also : Honey Dijon, Rainy Blue, Mon Coeur. But my big problem and our Indonesian Rosarian is how to deal with spider mites and thrips. Hot climate make them going crazy and hard for us to handle it.
I hope you will be interested to make a video how to deal with spider mites and thrips on the hot climate location. Thanks for your video, Jason
Thanks Rudy. I just heard another recommendation for Lady of Shalott - thanks so much for sharing your success. Both spider mites and thrips are tough pests in most any climate. If you can find a good locals source for beneficial mites, persimilis does well in higher temps and solves spider mite problems quickly. I'll have to do a video on thrips soon too.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks for your answer, Jason. I glad to hear about your plan to make video about the thrips. 🙏🙏
I have a rose called blue girl and it does well in hot climates and the foliage is strong and disease resistant
Thank you Juan
I used to grow some roses in Puerto Rico. I didn't have many roses but knockout roses grow beautifully there. Others that grew well were Cecile Brunner climbing rose, some hybrid teas, miniatures, Brindabella roses grow very well there too, I had three colors of the Brindabella series.... and also some old roses, one was probably a china rose and the other was a white climbing rose that produces bouquets of white flowers and can often be found in old gardens. I also had Lady Banks which grew beautifully but never produced flowers (maybe it needed to grow more) .
Many of the David Austin roses grow well too. I've seen on Facebook someone who grows very beautiful David Austin roses in Sukhothai, Thailand. His name is Matthew Gardening.
Thanks for sharing your recommendations!
thanks for this!!! been waiting for this.
DA, Kordes, Meilland etc..roses doin well here in South East Asia.. most of the roses.. grafted one.. we got from Thailand & Vietnam.. the biggest country in SEA who export them to nearby country.. most of the grafted really suitable for the wheather here..Malaysia, Full Tropical climate..my area, where i stayed..Kundasang, Ranau Sabah..I am blessed with 'cool' temperature.. the view Mt. Kinabalu so majestic..but still.. fungicide & pesticide is the main issues..Denmark rose.. Holland rose.. the miniature rose.. even China Hybrid rose been planted here.. average temperature 16-21 degree Celsius..
Thanks for those insights Andrew - very helpful!
Loved the video, thanks for the information. I am in zone 12b so it will be quite difficult, but I am hopeful cause I have seen pictures of beautiful roses in nearby towns, even my favorite, the Peace rose!
Thank you Jason. You might want to tell about Damask roses that grow well in these climates.
Thanks. And I also hope viewers will read down through the comments for local recommendation. I hear damasks do decently in India and in Bermuda.
Very informative. I'm 9b/10a central Florida. Have 5 roses (3 hybrid and 2 floribunda)
Water Deeply ~ so true!
Mulch yes
My roses went dormant in the extreme Philippine tropical summer heat and humidity. Even if I deep water them twice daily and liquid feed them every two weeks, they just refuse grow . They are now just starting to come to life again in the monsoon rains
That's tough. I know that some breeders (especially in India) have been working on roses that cope better with tropical weather
Thank you that was helpful. In Fl zone 9 with full sun
Thank you I live in Pakistan. Where it's very hot and severe monsoons. David austin don't seem to do well.
Thanks 🙏🏼
My pleasure. Thanks so much for watching
I can’t believe I live in Hawai’i and I never heard of the aloha rose
Great informative Video. Thanks
Thank you very much Jason! Very informative video! My question is: what kind of mulch should I use that won't attract termites? And how do people know what variety or cultivar a rose plant is just by looking at it? All roses seem familiar even to rose lovers? From the Philippines!
Thanks Raymund - depends on what you have available locally. Rice hulls, coir, peat, straw, manure. All will keep moisture in the soil (which to some extent will allow insect populations to flourish as well - so maintain a dry buffer around the house or other wood structures)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you! Will try that. Have a nice day!
Vanessa Belle, strawberry hill, graham thomas, from David austin, double delight, fragrant dream, lexi, smith's Parrish, old bush, Collette, 1812 rose, love song, sweet mademoiselle, mother of pearl ,Louis Felipe, Jubilee celebration, abraham darby, Mary rose, Alnwick, Desdemona, LA Marque. Sugar moon, angel face, releasing Georgia, James galway, clotilde soupert, fragrant cloud, rosette delizy. Those are the best ones in my south florida 10a home. I have almost 300 roses.
Thanks so much Denise - I'm glad to get recommendations from someone with loads of warm-climate experience.
Jason. I have some David Austin roses and several red Knockout roses here in Charleston, SC. My Knockouts tend to become leggy and drop most of the inner leaves beginning in mid to late July. They get predominantly midday sun and bloom beautifully in the spring. They have continued to bloom,as I snip back to 5-leaf sections and new growth emerges.
The dropping of leaves and the “legginess” concerns me. Do you have any possible solutions or recommendations from across the continent? I always enjoy your videos.
By contrast, I have the same collections of roses in central Virginia, and those roses do exceptionally well.
Dropping the inner leaves is a classic sign of drought stress - but the difficult bit is this: in high temperatures and humidity, it's difficult for the plant to take up moisture quickly enough, even if ample water is present in the soil. The stretchy growth would be another response to high humidity. Short of offering some kind of shade during the hottest parts of the day, I can't think of much else you can do to help them out.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks Jason, for your quick response today. This is what I’ve figured.
My roses in Virginia get midday shade and do quite well with loss of inner leaves.
As always, I enjoy and appreciate, the information you provide.
I'm from the Maldives my island is very close to he equator. I really want to fill my garden with rose plants but don't know where to start
thank you so much
I’m from Malaysia. And i can say almost all of david austin roses can survive here. And also japanese Roses. But What’s your thoughts on pinching a flower buds method?
Thanks - good to know the Austin roses are so adaptable. If you're talking about deadheading, yes, it's a great help to hasten the next set of flowers.
Thanks 😊
My friends grow some English roses in a Malaysian tropical climate quite well, although the florets appear smaller.
Among others are :
#Abraham Darby # Lady of Megginch # Graham Thomas # Joseph Coat # Elbflorenze & # Evelyn.
I think l want to try # Don Juan & # Sombreuil.Thanks :)
Thanks. I appreciate you sharing your experience.
Hello thank you for this informative video.
I do have a question. I am planing to open a flower shop in Eastern Africa. It’s pretty hot for the most past of the year. How do I manage the flowers in hot weather? Someone advised me to install A/C’s. I would love to hear more from you.
Thank you so much.
They could be right. Cut stems last much longer in cooler temps, and even shade and humidity probably won't solve the problem.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you sir for your reply 🙏🏾
Hi! I'm from the Philippines and actually my roses likes direct sun light compared when I put them in the shade. Also our roses here doesn't produce seeds, so we propagate them via cuttings instead. Your roses are very beautiful! What are the chances of you sending me some seeds? 😄
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hey Meeka! I'm from the Philippines as well from manila to be exact. I strated to grow hybrid tea rose which they call here american rose. I'll be waiting for it to bloom in our weather to see if it will do well. It also recieves full sun with no shade, I hope they do well because my miniature rose do good in that kind of sunlight exposure. Do you know where can I get floribundas? Thank you!
@@kennethrobles6656 yeah, you can buy one on facebook. I think all roses that they sell on FB came from the north. Benguet, Baguio specifically.
@@meekaraineromaquin they don't call it floribunda so I guess I have to look at the pictures and the size of the flower so I won't make a mistake of buying pitimini rose
Very interesting! I didn't know that roses can grow in the tropics. Uve seen lots of tropical plants here in New York. We get hot and humid weather form June through September.
Kindly make a video about root rot in roses and dieback 🙏
Thanks. I'll put it on the list
Does it make a difference for planting cuttings in the tropics?
A few things. You probably can take cuttings year-round in the tropics. Here, the right timing makes a bit of a difference. You may have to shade the cuttings more carefully because of higher temperatures.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you for your advice
Hi Jason
I live in a climate with temp over 50 c in summer and around 0°c in winter. Can you help me pick up a rose type that has many big flowers with many petals that can undergo my climate.
Fraser hi.. I’ve discovered my rose stick sprouting in 3 different places in the front garden with all the sproutings now gone.. so i dug it up & saw some roots on it .. put it in the back garden in a pot with other roses.. will it start to sprout from the bottom one day?.. thanks for listening & would be grateful for a bit of encouragement ( may be passing dogs chewed it up )
Only time will tell - but so long as it has viable roots and some living stem, there's a chance that a dormant shoot will sprout.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank u very much for your reply..i had 3 sprouts coming out & one at a time .. may be a passing dog nibbled at it .. i felt as if my child had died..all 3 were gone..it had one white root coming so i put it in the safety of the back garden .. most beautiful cream color hybrid tea .. i was waiting for the owner of my house ( before i bought it ) in her drive & i noticed this cream color very intricate rose in full bloom.. i went crazy & so i was given a cutting.. thanks again..lots of love to you & your family from London England 🏴
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm The rose bush was growing in neighbour’s front garden & she gave me a cutting of it
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm sorry I called u Fraser in my desperation.. jason
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I had a dark pink rose which had died I’d bought it in 1995.. a cutting of it has sprouted in 4 different shoots.. so i’ holding my breath for the cream one
Hi Jason hope you are well, I have a question: do hybrid tea roses and other roses not native to tropical climates go dormant? Is it a built in mechanism? And what NPK fertilizer should I use to get them to have more leaves? Thank you!
Hi Raymund - most modern roses will only go (semi) dormant as they deal with less sun and cold temps. They'll stay in active growth in tropical climates. I'd usually choose something fairly balanced (like 10-10-10) - you can encourage more foliage with a higher N, but the plant needs a complete diet.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks! so I guess it's either lack of water or too much water or maybe dieback? I don't water everyday and keep feeling the soil first. I saw your unruly roses site and will try to post pics there. By the way, how long do hybrid tea roses become fully established in a pot from the time it was bought from the nursery? I'm planning to sell established rose plants in pots since most people have the notion that roses are hard to grow and it might be a good idea to sell them a fool proof rose plant.
I have a shrub rose growing in container. Can you please help me help me with the Id?🙏
How can I share the picture of it?
Thanks 😊
You can't share anything on the video comments here on UA-cam. Facebook groups are good because there are plenty of experienced rose hobbyists. I have one (Unruly Rose Society) linked in the description of the video, but there are other good active groups on Facebook as well
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you so much.
How do you know i'm focusing on that red lily behind you?
Just because it was what I focused on while editing the footage!
I live in the African continent, by the Mediterranean waters. and the temperature in my area goes from 45-50-75-85 Fahrenheit throughout the year and the humidity goes from 62-78 percent. is there any way I can grow roses in my area with red soil? I know that red soil isn't the best for them nor is the temp and humidity but I really am tempted to try and grow them, so is there any chance I can? thank you!
Sounds like a difficult spot to attempt roses - I wonder if you could make it work. Some shade during he most intense sun might be required. Frequent light irrigation during the hottest periods will help with some cooling.
Would old garden roses do ok in zone 8b South Carolina?
I live in Louisville and we sure act as if we are tropical. My dependable bloomer is Abraham Darby, an old English shrub. PROLIFIC BLOOMER UP TO FROST. There will be nothing else in bloom. Wonderful flower and fragrance.
Check the list from the Baton Rouge rose society - they had some nice choices on there.
When should you prune roses in tropical climates?
You can pick a time based on any seasonal variation in your area: at the front end of the cool season, or maybe just after the rainy season.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks so much! I have been so confused about this since I have had my rose. It doesn’t ever go into dormancy here while most youtube tutorials tell us to prune in the winter. You saved me and my rose!!