There's one notable correction in this video (which is just a case of me misspeaking). At one point I say the PLAN is bigger than the USN in both hull count and tonnage. It isn't, it's smaller by tonnage (significantly) and is only larger by hull count. My brain wanted to say it was larger by hull count and was building more tonange but I flubbed the sentence and missed it in editing. The perils of doing these things without a script... Apologies for any confusion.
For the first time since you started making these vids, I'm actually MORE interested in the hot take than the long view...I even commented on your post how your long takes are much better...what a difference 48 hours makes, and what a pleasant change of events it's been!
I was thinking, "Wow Perun sure writes some really thorough and entertaining scripts for his presentations." Perun: This is what happens when I don't write a script. 😳
@@Cristieagle my partner thinks i am crazy that I’ve sat through every video from start to end. To be fair i find them pretty entertaining and informative.
I honestly look forward to it more than almost anything else on UA-cam these days. It's one of but a tiny handful of videos I literally put in my schedule.
Ha, ha, that's true. Partly that's because he's so secure in his great amount of knowledge, and partly because he knows being polite makes one a better thinker, since not projecting onto others.
Too bad as a UA-camr the only way he could become a Canadian citizen for real is to marry or somehow find $1.2 million CAD to invest. Social media is not on the list of jobs the quota points system is looking for.
I find it equally ironic, hilarious, and impressive that you have essentially shifted a *UA-cam channel* from civilian production (video games) to wartime industry....
No need to apologies for delaying the Ukraine update - no-one expected the excellent developments of the last few days! Hopefully the Ukrainians can consolidate and strengthen their gains, and maybe repeat the process in Kherson :)
I think Russia actually put some of its best troops in Kherson unfortunately. Supplied them as best they could for quite a while over the river. The fun part is that those troops can't easily pull out, especially with their equipment.
@@lordAvatar Well those Russian troops have nothing to worry about since Russia claims the frontlines haven't moved at all during this Kherson counter-offensive. /s
@@lordAvatar Yes, they probably have. Still, I wouldn't want to be in their boots right now, though - a determined Ukrainian army in front of me, a largely hostle population and a wide river behind me, supply lines getting hammered, bridges destroyed, air force AWOL, senior officials withdrawing to safety in russia, and it looking ever-increasingly like the only real options are surrender, retreat with only what can be carried and no guarantee of crossing the river, or pushing up the sunflowers...
@@lordAvatar There is no “unfortunately” about it. The Kherson offensive is a major component of Ukraine’s counter offensive strategy. A huge amount of planning went into this. A lot of effort has gone into determining Russia’s force dispositions and movements. A lot of options were planned, probabilities calculated, and gambles taken. Sadly for us observers, we can only speculate on the planning, including the contingency planning. What we do know is that Ukraine pre-announced a counter-offensive in one place, and because it was a real counter-offensive with very real preparations they were able to lure Russia into moving forces into Kherson from other fronts. And we do know that Russia spread itself thin around the Kharkiv front by rushing reserve units to Kherson. We can speculate with VERY high confidence that the Kharkiv assault was a well planned option, not just because of its speed, but because of the strategic points taken and the order in which they were taken. The process won’t be repeated in Kherson because some different tactics will be required. The troop transfer that weakened Russia’s Kharkiv line has strengthened Russia’s defense of Kherson. The siege of Kherson might take months even after weeks of slow encirclement. A lot of things went right at Kherson that created the conditions for the fast advance into Eastern Kharkiv.
Simple enough. Import north Korean designs. Confronted by a navy that can oppose the largest in the world, you've got a winner. Getting delivery could be challenging, and the quality might end up questionable
@@LionidasL10 'so you see Mr President we cut new portholes in the side and filled them with perspex windows to lighten the hull and improve morale of the crew! We are considering installation of a viewing panel in the bottom of the hull to offer views of the sea life beneath the ship and a wide angle viewing port at the rear of the ship for mine sweeping duties but have been struggling to find crew members trained to swim to clean the outside of these windows. Thus we are investing in the installation of a pool complex in every small town across our nation, so our rural residents can clean off in the baths and learn to swim all in one! Due to the lack of available water. The bathing pool is the only one filled with clean water while the swimming pool is a filled with mud, which the farmers work with regularly for maximum familiarity and thus lower operating costs!'
"Imagine the fun passengers could have if one of the activities is _you throw target bouys over the side _*_and occationally passengers for a little bit of extra_* could take turns trying to pop the targets with the 76-mil." Remember back in school, when your teacher told you that punctuation is really important? - This is why 😅
It's not necessary to clarify that sentence, though. Who is the subject of the second "could"? I think it can only be "passengers". Thus, "passengers" cannot be an argument of the "and" that forms the direct object of "throw".
There are strategic terms that come into play here also. US Navy is a Blue Water navy, and it's ship building concentration is on Large Combatant and Logistics shipping (Destroyers and Larger class ships, plus Nuclear power). Most Navies are Green Water (Sticking closer to shore). Smaller navies do not need Nuclear Powered subs, Carriers, etc. Germany and Italy really are good at making Corvette and Frigate type shipping, and conventional powered subs.
@@swunt10 In principle, AIP subs are still far smaller than nuclear subs which is the point the original commenter made. AIP is still green water navy stuff.
@@swunt10 AIP are considered 'Conventional' because they are not Nuclear, and in the case of the Stirling types they still rely on combustion of a type. AIP is a very quiet system, but still has some limits on range, power delivery (speed) and endurance. Nuclear subs are limited by Crew and Food capacity. Not saying they aren't "exotic" technology, but that again it's a short range (green water) type solution. Also Sub Reactors are generally cutting edge tech and those that have them want to keep their tech secret.
In some detailed work on procurement choices that I won’t do into, we found the core issue with US was more to do with the deep specialisation of each ship class, small countries need more multi mission designed ships, ie ASW, Anti surface, anti air, especially area denial, but us ships tend to do one role really well, as designed to be part of carrier group. EU etc were more multipurpose generalist ships.
You have quickly become one of my favorite youtubers. I started watching when you made the first Ukrainian video and have stayed with you through it all. Incredibly great content! I absolutely love it all!
I started following Perun for his Dominions content. Him moving to such classy takes on the Ukraine war and defence industry was bit a blessing and a curse.
I wonder what the export graph would look like if the EU countries were considered a single unit. I.e. Not counting a sale from France to Spain as export.
I could do that with a little work. If I get a spare half an hour I'll do so and see what it throws up and include it in the Euro Defence video if it's interesting.
As a guy from Kiel, Germany, the place where all the German submarines are built, I found that video really interesting! Made me a bit proud of my indepted home city :) Ship building is still on decline though because of several businesses in the commercial ship building sector going bankrupt in 2008 and ThyssenKrupp selling off their commercial capacities
I feel you, the crises and the conversion to more big companies instead of more small ones is something that in this economy breaks the neck for many economic sectors in this country.
@@MaticTheProto there is amazing news around that Rheinmetall wants to massively expand capacity at their plant in Kiel-Suchsdorf. I really hope that gets through, Kiel is one of the most advanced military industry locations in Germany and the downturn in investment into our defence industry has really hurt the city a lot, the city has been at the brink of bankruptcy since the 90's and one big employer after another laid off staff or closed factories. People from other regions of Germany oftentimes think we are just not an industrialised place and that's the reason why the economy is struggling, the real reason is that the government has been eager to support car manufacturers in the south whenever possible while ignoring sectors like shipping or the military
Hi Perun. I just wanted to thank you for these videos. I know close to nothing of the topics you cover, so I can only imagine the amount of work you put in researching, compiling and comparing all these values. Every video of yours that I watch is filled with quality data, unlike many others out there. Thank you for your efforts. We appreciate them.
I also am deeply grateful for the depth and detail in your videos - your channel is unique and it is my first choice for information on the Ukraine war and the many elements that are in play
I like to imagine imagine at the beginning of this week you had a long and well developed script surmising the past 7 months of the conflict, going in depth into supply chains, logistics, economic realities, and how things would probably be slow for awhile, and just had 3/4ths of that script rendered irrelevant by "haha Kharkiv offensive go BBBBRRRRRRRRR". At least you don't have it as bad as Oryx, as Ukraine is capturing vehicles faster than one man can count.
A joke I saw online goes like this: By the end of this war, not only can Ukraine recoup all the tanks they've lost, they can give back all the tanks that other countries like Poland gave them (with interest!) and still end up with a bigger tank fleet than they started with before the war
@@dx-ek4vr I can't help but wonder if Ukraine is going to give some of these vehicles (and training) to other post soviet countries that are having problems with Russia...
@@drs4983 Poland, Finland, Germany, Czechia, & Baltic countries are being intentionally beefed up behind the curtains while their legacy systems are being shipped to Ukraine. They can't export more faster becuase they are all operating on a strict timetable. US military & NATO cooperation are making this "military operation" look worse & worse for the Russians as time drags on.
I think you're missing a trick, Japan is the ONLY nation that can produce a destroyer capable of operating F-35s, I mean, that's got to be a unique selling point 😇
That actually is an aircraft carrier instead of a ridiculous name at helicopter destroyer. Every modern destroyer mainly arms with missiles only carriers use jets as a primary weapon.
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@@rainboworiental9521 The ships you're referring to, Izumo and Kaga, aren't helicopter destroyers or aircraft carriers. They're "Multipurpose Operation Destroyer" that specializes in anti-submarine warfare through the generous use of rotary-wing aviation, off of their slightly enlarged helipads. These slightly enlarged helipads, as well as the destroyers helicopter hangers, have been retrofitted to allow for the occasional use of F-35B's (the VTOL variant), which realistically, are just fixed-wing helicopters, and make for very effective anti-submarine warfare platforms.
Recently became homeless staying in a hostel, but new Perun dropped so time to re-align my priorities for the night. Gives you an idea for the quality of these videos.
@@PerunAU Cheers. I moved country, funnily enough to Oz, so it's not like I got laid off and lost my house or anything crazy. Just part of the process right now. I'm doing well enough to fit in the weekly hour long powerpoint. ;)
The feeling one gets here when our host says "that will be in another video" is quite remarkable. Thank you for yet another great learning opportunity.
I can only agree. Although my time at the Bundeswehr is 25 years ago, it matched what I saw in the video and also matched the procurement habits of other German ministries and agencies. Beschaffung - da liegt der Hund begraben.
Excellent work. Highights include: the bit when line was going up, then went down again, casinos and pools on warships, 76mm guns on cruise ships, clarifying the location of the ROK.
re: water cannon There's also nothing more german arms than building something EASILY converted in war time. Rheinmetall really wants to export, but there are lots of limits on that under German law. So you ship out units and hope the locals keep them for riot control, e.g. with the conversion kits kept in germany with proprietary/secret tricks to keep third party contractors for swapping in the actual cannons. Really.
Thanks for clarifying! I was wondering about that - it looked like a water cannon could relatively easily be swapped out for any other type of cannon but would depend on whether the hull and surrounding materials would be able to support something much heavier, hotter, and wear-intensive. Very interesting!
@@QuizmasterLaw - Haha! Yes, and when you start both world wars, I suppose you get good at locking up war-making capabilities behind a robust wall of bureaucracy, thank goodness!
To add onto that: The whole point of the F-125 class of ships was to relief our surface combat vessels that do pack a punch (like the F-124 class) from low intensity mission which they were not designed and - to be frank - quite unfit for. Stuff like multiple VLS launchers are impressive, no doubt, and absolutely necessary in symmetric warfare but they won't give any benefit in anti piracy or humanitarian relief missions (aka basically all of the missions our navy undertook apart from NATO exercises in the last few years). They were seen as unnecessary dead weight and therefore removed from the next class of ships which were specifically designed for long standing times and a completey different mission profile as a whole. The F-125 may not be a deadly surface combattant (especially compared to its weight and size), but it fits its intended mission profile to a T. Whether or not it actually excells in the missions it was designed for remains to be seen, but it definitely allows our actual warships to do their intended jobs.
@@Desmeria If we (Germany) got ourself some extra smaller low intensity frigates or so, that probably wouldve been fine. What we instead did, was invest a ton of money into large 8000 ton frigates, which drained budgets that were already small, and worse, replaced actually capable multi purpose frigates. Germany got a rotation of 3 types of frigate classes usually, and this replaced one of them. The math shouldnt difficult on how much capability got lost. That doesnt even include the construction-problems, being so flawed they didnt get accepted and instantly returned for fixes. Or being overweight which means there isnt much space for upgrades, which is pretty bad for a warship, to say the least. The F125 is a major mistake and gonna be a big drain on the german navy for their entire lifetime. Piracy isnt even a primary concern anymore, its mostly stopped and countries like Russia and China being beliggerent is way more of a problem.
The Kamatchka. Many pairs of innocent binoculars lost their lives because of that Russian ship. :D I highly recommend Drach's "Voyage Of The Damned" video here on UA-cam.
1:59 Yes man, and there is a good reason... the Spaniards 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇺, or other European countries have vast experience (literally shipyards with centuries of tradition), World First Class engineers and they work cheaper... It has been very critizised, but take a look to the S-80 submarines series from Spain, soon they will be exported too, not only the frigates... it is not that well-known, but there are a lot of physical and human capacities in this sectors across the whole European Union 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺.
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No need to apologise for taking some time to collect data. This is why I'm here. If I want a quick, somewhat more biased and quite unreliable update, I can read a newspaper. However, I don't trust them to actually take the time and have the knowledge to see beyond official claims, twitter and the occasional reporter segment. That takes time, knowledge and passion, and has a much smaller audience. You're my go to source for that.
The research and expertise you display in the making of these video is incredible as always! I’ll end up falling asleep to this the first go through but by the third i’ll nail it hahaa Great work with the caption team- really knocking it out of the park
I'm a South Korean but the future of our ship building industry doesn't seem that promising. After about decade long recession because you can't get as cost competitive as China they let go a lot of welders and they felt betrayed and found work somewhere else. Now orders are coming back in that gives the industry hope but no one is willing to return to the dockyards because past feelings and the pay is meager compared to the intensity and danger involved. And can't say a lot of people are willing to start working there when entrance level pay will be similar working at convenience store but with bigger chances of injury and death. The manpower shortage had the government recently loosen restriction for foreign works for the shipbuilding industry that isn't a fundamental solution .
A story as old as time with first world countries. We give big salaries to people who, far from creating value, literally suck wealth away from everyone else. A welder should get paid more than a trader.
@Chronochaos - What is the state of Union culture in Korea? Like, do you have many industry unions? Are they big enough to influence the government? We have some in the US that can command certain things like where the industry must hire from first, etc.
@@velvetmagnetta3074 unions are banned in South Korea, last time there was a strike in South Korea (carmaker industry), most of them were branded as enemies of the state, and those that survived the strike could not find work due to being blacklisted among the corps despite winning the legal case. The series "squid 🐙 games" kinda talked about it in a fictional way. Also corps dominate the government, as it was decided to let chaebols dominate the economy to build up the export base. There is a reason y south Korea is sarcastically known as Samsung's republic
@@ALV694 Unions aren't banned, but rather weak since there isn't support from the government. And in case of strikes there were multiple this year and last year, the most recent one on June.
@@velvetmagnetta3074 We do or I think we do. I'm not that sharp on the subject there there are unions that have big influence but I don't think the changes effect workers under subcontractors. And while they have influence I'm not sure on public support or efficiency. Recently there was a strike at the Daewoo shipyards(DSME) with mixed reactions. Support for trying to fix the poor conditions and backlash for terrible timing. DSME was zombie firm being kept alive on tax money and was hoping to get back to normal because contracts were coming back but the strike left them with a $590mil loss and the strike seemed to stop when public opinion started to sour and the Korea Development Bank started to threaten that they would just let the company go bankrupt if the losses got higher. At the end the strike just seemed to have made the situation worse and I doubt it'll bring positive change to the industry
31:53 I know you made a joke here, but I’d still like to address how accurate and fair your analysis of the Bundeswehr was. While the people serving there are doing an amazing job, it’s important to point out all the shortcomings and structural problems that are still hindering them in their job. Something no German in their right mind would find offensive.
I feel like this is a strength of many European. We don't have a problem with criticism of part of our governments(or armies). Even if the criticism comes from the outside, or if it hits part of our country that we are proud of. In my experience many other countries don't like criticism about their country. And people from these countries also take the criticism somewhat personal. also I have to assume that Perun knows this and plays with it every time the Bundeswehr comes up.
Perun: "I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not put a 76 millimeter gun on the cruise ship and let customers buy it. It's obviously very illegal and not possible..." Me: "Why isn't it possible?" Perun: "It's just not possible. " Me: "Why not, you stupid bastard?"
You can, in fact, buy a 76mm cannon in the US. Just complete a BAFT Form 1 (the NFA form), pay your $200 Tax, and do the background check. Several months later, that 76mm Cannon is yours. The big issue is that each round of NON-EXPLODING ammo is also a Form 1 and a $200 Tax Stamp. Don't even THINK about explosive ammo in the US.
Dude I am completely obsessed with this content. Honestly could run this up the chain and brief a chief or commander on the situation. Keep up the good work!
Europe: "after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, we should increase our naval power" Asia: "after the degradation of relationships between China and Taiwan, we should increase our naval power" Leaonardo in Italy producing the FREMM frigade "allow us to introduce ourselves"
Thanks Perun for covering another topic I knew nothing about until now. Your well researched approach to every video is always appreciated. I'm glad you opted to delay the Ukraine update; a wise choice to ensure greater accuracy as the fog of war clears over time.
Good call on delaying the UA update video because of the recent incredible developments. It will be really interesting to see what has actually happened after the dust settles.
yup delayed since Ukraine just liberated over 4000 squarekilometers :) izyum just got liberated and there is talk about them advancing into luhansk, problem is hes myabe have to delay it further if the Kherson pocket also collapses
@@tuehojbjerg969 I wouldn't bet on Russia remaining stunned like they are. Take them a few days to move troops and stiffen routed ones. Every plan that relies on the enemy not reacting, will fail. And if you ask my opinion, Ukraine should shift its focus south now. The Cherson region has more economical significance than the whole occupied eastern section, both the 2014-2021 occupied area and what they took recently. There's not much industry there. While unlocking the Dnipro river and securing full acces to the Black Sea (Odessa being within missile range just won't do longterm) is simply vital for Ukraine's economic succes. Assuming Ukrainian army staff share that strategic analysis, we'll see the counteroffensive stop now that they've reached their goals and then shift south. This way Ukraine also retains the initiative and keeps Russia reacting.
@@nvelsen1975 I don't see Ukraine being in a hurry in the south. Kherson is a siege, not an assault. And Russia doesn't seem in a position to care about organizing a relief army right now.
This might not be the kind of channel that's mainstream with animations etc, but your audience is definitely going to be much more engaged I think and loyal. Loving the content.
I thought you would have your video this week with the sudden shift in conditions in Ukraine, I didn't expect a well researched interesting video instead. You consistently produce high quality content I feel should be given by a professor at a military university instead of on youtube. Thank you for your work.
Look - a few things happened. Cross referencing anything has become hard and a lot of usual sources are going to be harder to get onto at the moment for obvious reasons.
As a pior nuclear machinists mate my last few years in the navy was spent in dry dock in New Port News shipyard and 21:28 I can verify that you don't have to like to think, but it is a fact that Admiral Rickover portrait is in a load of offices both on the ships and in the offices in the shipyard
Perun I will always appreciate your talent for efficiently giving absolute loads of information in a very easy to listen to and digest format. I especially appreciate you being as unbiased as possible and always give tons of objective information to back up your reasoning of what’s going on. Any military would be lucky to have you doing intelligence briefings and I look forward to your videos the most by a long shot.
As Willy II pointed out a century ago: "Germany's future is at sea." 🙃 I am actually surprised, because there were some contractions in german yards in the last decade and the cancellation of some deals like the large series of patrol boats for Saudi-Arabia. Great Video! Thanks!
I will say outside of some of my more depressed days where I just do nothing, I have been following your content since you started with these style of videos. They are amazingly informative and well thought out. Thank you for making these.
Don't forget the two Mistral-class Amphibious Carriers the French cancelled after the Crimean invasion. Imagine the "Special Military Operation" if Russia had two amphibious carriers in the Black Sea.
If we knew that russian navy lacked protection against missiles, we could have sold them. Two pratice targets for Ukraine ; less money for Russia. Fair deal.
Another great video my guy- have u ever considered making a video covering the PMC market? I saw task and purpose’s video on it and I had no idea how many PMCs China had- I think an in depth video would be really interesting - I understand if u can’t however- keep up the good work! U make Sunday my new favorite day of the week
I read and listen to geo-politics all day for work. Your videos are easily some of the best analysis that I have the pleasure of consuming and its better than most of the paid "professional" sources. Your dry wit and humor is also a welcome touch to spice up the presentations and keep the listener engaged. I really hope fortune shines favorably on you with ad revenue and the algorithm and I look forward to hearing your presentations for a long time to come. Spot on mate.
Your decision to delay Ukraine reporting is exactly why I impatiently await your next effort. As you say, accuracy trumps immediacy when it comes to long form reporting and analysis. There are hundreds of sources for breaking news, precious few for depth and reflection of carefully weighed data collection. Keep up the good work.
I know this is one of your lesser viewed videos but I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed it and watched it twice. Once on my commute as a podcast then later I sat and watched the slides. Great work man.
Take your time with an update on the ukraine situation. Alot of media orgs tend to jump the gun and report anything and everything that comes up with a developing situation. Unfortunately that tends to spread alot of unverified info. I like this channel since it takes a moment to let things settle and report a more clear picture of what's going on. Will be waiting eagerly!
i agree what many below have commented on, which is that most countries outside of the US, are not global powers so their priority with their navies are completely different. the US is a global superpower and the ships that make up the US Navy reflects that. plus, the various exports law in the US heavily restricts what can be sold
I have never ever had even the slightest inclination to set foot on a cruise ship, not even if the tickets were free and I was being paid, but that 76mm cannon idea has me thinking differently…
@@First-Last_name There’s a reason why they’ve been called floating “Petrie dishes” for long before COVID, the cruise ship industry always has regular outbreaks of the flu, various respiratory infections, norovirus and other GI infections that spread like wildfire in confined spaces…yuck!
As a Brit, I'm left feeling a little neglected. I know we're just a little, inward looking, island off the European coast these days, but I was fairly sure we were still exporting things that kill in some numbers. Well, maybe not things that float and kill, but we did make an aircraft carrier recently. OK, it's not got any planes, and doesn't work too well, and we haven't exported it (yet), but we did make it!
I like all of your videos Perun, but as an old seadog myself I must admit I really loved this one! Take as long time as you feel you need for the next uppdate, your videos are worthwhile waiting for!!!
Perun, I found and subscribed to your channel not long after you started posting videos about the Ukrainian/Russian war and the related subjects. I just wanted to say that the level of comprehensive detail that you go into is incredible and has become one of several gold standards for how I judge info videos. Keep up the incredible work! Slava Ukraini!
It's a wonder why they thought the Japanese were there in Europe. Probably because the UK is allied to Japan and somehow thought the Brits were housing some secret Japanese task force to intercept their fleet leaving Europe? Or maybe they were actually wary of the Brits entering the war alongside Japan, thus attacking British vessels, but just came up with the dumb excuse to not escalate things?
Thanks again for your well researched analysis. I was surprised you didn't mention the the incursion of Fincatieri into the US shipbuilding market with its acquisition of Marinette Marine and the development to build FREMM frigates for USN. Looking forward to the 6 month review, don't worry that your video might be as much of a wild ride as the Ukrainian offensive.
Hi Perun! Thanx so much for this, from a Spaniard here. Keep up your great work, please!. Anxious for your vid on the evolution of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, especially given recent developments...
this is a cool video, however i think it may have been good to also cover the UK, while not part of the EU it has an odd placing in it namely, BAE systems and rolls royce, not to mention the UK is coming into the export market quite heavily now, with the planned exports of numerous somewhat high tech frigates to commonwealth nations and the fact that Australia is likely soon going to be buying SSN's. it might be a good idea to just do a overview of the uk in general and how its stuff hits the export market, namely the fact that now adays militaries are buying alot of stuff the UK has had a big hand in, things like the F35, NLAW, alot of naval systems, Rolls royces hand in innumerable aircraft being used by militaries, the EURO fighter typhoon, panavia tornado, harrier. and also the upcoming things like the exports of new frigates and the joint development between sweden Italy and the uk on a new 6th gen fighter plus rolls royces involvement in japans new 6th gen project.
I was wondering what the weekly PowerPoint would be about this week, and while I would love a Ukrainian update, I expected that the fog of war would preclude that. Thanks for explaining all of the reasons why different countries might make political choices that aren’t only about price or total capabilities. I think those are sometimes forgotten.
Strange, as an American I've always viewed warships as an asset that a military must always make themselves, never considering the fact that some nations without good navel building could just buy them from somewhere else like an airplane.
I think it depends on the country's budget and it's geography. In my eyes personally, the US basically have 10/10 location and economy and thus capable to max out on each industry, land, air and sea. Whereas most smaller countries can probably focus on one or two of those aspects and buy the rest to fill in the spaces. In my country, we invested heavily on domestic RnD on land and naval systems that we pretty much lack any industries on aerospace. So we just straight up buy F16s/F15s/F35s, logistics and what not for the airforce. On the flip side we also make our own vessels (to a degree) and buy whatever equipment to fill in the gaps, like frigates or submarines.
Here's a funny story: Apparently, while the offensive in the Kharkiv Oblast was going on, Putin was busy inaugurating a ferris wheel in Moscow. Gotta hand it to Putin, man has his priorities straight
I work for a small US shipyard in the US that is trying to break in to the defense industry and I have to say that this video is spot on. I really want to show it to my boss and his boss.
Weird that you didn't mention the Constellation deal. That's essentially Italy exporting the FREMM to the US Navy. So, not only the US don't export ships, but they even found themselves as the importers. Italy has also made a deal with Korea for a technology transfer over the mentioned CVX. This confirms Korea's lack of experience in the military shipbuilding, as you were suggesting, despite its large commercial shipbuilding capabilities.
as far as I remember, US is not importing the ships but those ships need to be build under license in US Shipyards. There is a law in US that prevent military to buy equipment that is not produced in US.
There was a common thing in the early 20th century of governments subsidising the construction of fast liners and cargo ships with locations built into the design to take guns and other weapons in case of war, the Armed Merchant Cruiser. There were a number of notable incidents during WW1 and WW2 of these ships actually engaging in fights but they turned out to not do very well even against smaller warships due to lack of armour, trained warfighting crews, damage control etc. When these ships ran into the Big Boys it was pretty much game over immediately (see the AMC Jervis Bay vs. Kriegsmarine heavy cruiser Hipper for an example).
USN 1945 strength was 6 supercarriers (Midway and Forrestal fitting out), 24 Essex class Fleet Carriers, 9 Light Carriers, 158 Escort Carriers, 4 Iowa class Battleships, 4 South Dakota class Battleships, 2 North Carolina Class Battleships, 12 Standard Class Battleships, 200 plus cruisers, almost 1000 destroyer and destroyer escorts, and a lot of submarines. And there is a enough vessels still in the reserve fleet to replace every vessel in the active fleet... twice.
Incorrect in a number of particulars. In particular, the Forrestal class weren't even ordered until 1951 so could not have been fitting out in 1945. The cruiser count was nowhere near 200 (I count about 81 that survived the war), and the escort carriers would be disposed of almost as soon as the war was over.
@@kemarisite USS Card, an Escort carrier was serving as an aircraft ferry during the Vietnam War, most where still in service under 1946-1948. Was wrong about Cruiser count and Forrestals... Want to count destroyers ranging from Clemson to Gearing plus destroyer escorts?
Watching through this - you are uniquely good at making great videos on boring topics. Your way of structuring the topics and building a story to explain it plus the occasional joke ist stellar. Keep it up
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Oz move from French Naval Group diesel submarines to a US/UK nuclear alternative (when the French could have done that too).
We Australians realise the AUKUS deal was the last grasp of a desperate and unpopular political party stuck in the cold war and generally in the past , and realise that the deal will never go through .
@@mathewkelly9968 do you think it might be geopolitically strategically important? Assuming there will be a strong confrontation with China at some point. I know almost zero of Aussie politics, so please explain, I'd be very happy to learn the reality from an Aussie. Thanks.
I think Perun stays away from politics. The AUKUS decision was extremely political and maybe isn't globally important enough for him to dance around that fact.
thank you for another educational start to my sunday. was thinking it was more of an issue of not wanting to export vs. not having export potential. this really set in stone some key points beyond what data simply shows.
There's one notable correction in this video (which is just a case of me misspeaking).
At one point I say the PLAN is bigger than the USN in both hull count and tonnage. It isn't, it's smaller by tonnage (significantly) and is only larger by hull count. My brain wanted to say it was larger by hull count and was building more tonange but I flubbed the sentence and missed it in editing.
The perils of doing these things without a script... Apologies for any confusion.
It ruined the whole video. Take it away 😒
For the first time since you started making these vids, I'm actually MORE interested in the hot take than the long view...I even commented on your post how your long takes are much better...what a difference 48 hours makes, and what a pleasant change of events it's been!
The US still has a larger navy if you include its coast guard. It does not, yet China does.
I was thinking, "Wow Perun sure writes some really thorough and entertaining scripts for his presentations."
Perun: This is what happens when I don't write a script.
😳
The fact that you are doing these off the cuff is, frankly, mindblowing.
Ah yes , my weekly dose of 1 hour slide presentations on youtube
Unironically it's like a fucking drug, I love it.
Unfortunately this is the type of content UA-cam lacks.
@@Cristieagle my partner thinks i am crazy that I’ve sat through every video from start to end. To be fair i find them pretty entertaining and informative.
I honestly look forward to it more than almost anything else on UA-cam these days. It's one of but a tiny handful of videos I literally put in my schedule.
The rush is real 😮💨
Perun is so polite and apologizes so often for non-issues that he’s going to be given honorary Canadian citizenship.
Imagine wanting to be a Cucknadian..
Ha, ha, that's true. Partly that's because he's so secure in his great amount of knowledge, and partly because he knows being polite makes one a better thinker, since not projecting onto others.
Or Japanese.
Too bad as a UA-camr the only way he could become a Canadian citizen for real is to marry or somehow find $1.2 million CAD to invest. Social media is not on the list of jobs the quota points system is looking for.
@@WellBattle6 Could marry a Ukrainian.
I find it equally ironic, hilarious, and impressive that you have essentially shifted a *UA-cam channel* from civilian production (video games) to wartime industry....
I had to check Perun's channel page to confirm. The question now becomes whether or not Perun will be able to transition back to peacetime.
@@themastermason1 War sells and so does war statics and reviews so probably not.
@@themastermason1 he has a seperate gaming channel now
@@themastermason1 For his old gamer fans, that would be a peace dividend.
Just like how nations pivot into war economies during mass conflicts
No need to apologies for delaying the Ukraine update - no-one expected the excellent developments of the last few days! Hopefully the Ukrainians can consolidate and strengthen their gains, and maybe repeat the process in Kherson :)
I think Russia actually put some of its best troops in Kherson unfortunately. Supplied them as best they could for quite a while over the river. The fun part is that those troops can't easily pull out, especially with their equipment.
@@lordAvatar Well those Russian troops have nothing to worry about since Russia claims the frontlines haven't moved at all during this Kherson counter-offensive. /s
@@lordAvatar Yes, they probably have. Still, I wouldn't want to be in their boots right now, though - a determined Ukrainian army in front of me, a largely hostle population and a wide river behind me, supply lines getting hammered, bridges destroyed, air force AWOL, senior officials withdrawing to safety in russia, and it looking ever-increasingly like the only real options are surrender, retreat with only what can be carried and no guarantee of crossing the river, or pushing up the sunflowers...
@@lordAvatar There is no “unfortunately” about it. The Kherson offensive is a major component of Ukraine’s counter offensive strategy. A huge amount of planning went into this. A lot of effort has gone into determining Russia’s force dispositions and movements. A lot of options were planned, probabilities calculated, and gambles taken.
Sadly for us observers, we can only speculate on the planning, including the contingency planning. What we do know is that Ukraine pre-announced a counter-offensive in one place, and because it was a real counter-offensive with very real preparations they were able to lure Russia into moving forces into Kherson from other fronts. And we do know that Russia spread itself thin around the Kharkiv front by rushing reserve units to Kherson.
We can speculate with VERY high confidence that the Kharkiv assault was a well planned option, not just because of its speed, but because of the strategic points taken and the order in which they were taken.
The process won’t be repeated in Kherson because some different tactics will be required. The troop transfer that weakened Russia’s Kharkiv line has strengthened Russia’s defense of Kherson. The siege of Kherson might take months even after weeks of slow encirclement.
A lot of things went right at Kherson that created the conditions for the fast advance into Eastern Kharkiv.
I'm hoping UA is so energetic that it will be months before you can do an update.
A fun idea for a future video: “Elbonian military procurement - horrible purchasing decisions do’s and don’ts”
Simple enough. Import north Korean designs. Confronted by a navy that can oppose the largest in the world, you've got a winner.
Getting delivery could be challenging, and the quality might end up questionable
"Mud exports"
🤣
Naval imports with speed holes.
@@LionidasL10 'so you see Mr President we cut new portholes in the side and filled them with perspex windows to lighten the hull and improve morale of the crew! We are considering installation of a viewing panel in the bottom of the hull to offer views of the sea life beneath the ship and a wide angle viewing port at the rear of the ship for mine sweeping duties but have been struggling to find crew members trained to swim to clean the outside of these windows. Thus we are investing in the installation of a pool complex in every small town across our nation, so our rural residents can clean off in the baths and learn to swim all in one!
Due to the lack of available water. The bathing pool is the only one filled with clean water while the swimming pool is a filled with mud, which the farmers work with regularly for maximum familiarity and thus lower operating costs!'
Ha! Agreed!!!
"Imagine the fun passengers could have if one of the activities is _you throw target bouys over the side _*_and occationally passengers for a little bit of extra_* could take turns trying to pop the targets with the 76-mil."
Remember back in school, when your teacher told you that punctuation is really important? - This is why 😅
In every cruise there are some passengers you would love to occasionally throw overboard and target practice with a 76-mil, so he isn't wrong.
@@marcogenovesi8570 Touché
I'd call it "The international waters sun, fun and gun package". THAT would sell.
@@ArKritz84 Then you book passage in Somali waters for a "target rich" environment.
It's not necessary to clarify that sentence, though. Who is the subject of the second "could"? I think it can only be "passengers". Thus, "passengers" cannot be an argument of the "and" that forms the direct object of "throw".
There are strategic terms that come into play here also. US Navy is a Blue Water navy, and it's ship building concentration is on Large Combatant and Logistics shipping (Destroyers and Larger class ships, plus Nuclear power). Most Navies are Green Water (Sticking closer to shore). Smaller navies do not need Nuclear Powered subs, Carriers, etc. Germany and Italy really are good at making Corvette and Frigate type shipping, and conventional powered subs.
I don't think Fuel cells AIP subs are considered 'conventional powered'
@@swunt10 In principle, AIP subs are still far smaller than nuclear subs which is the point the original commenter made. AIP is still green water navy stuff.
@@swunt10 AIP are considered 'Conventional' because they are not Nuclear, and in the case of the Stirling types they still rely on combustion of a type. AIP is a very quiet system, but still has some limits on range, power delivery (speed) and endurance. Nuclear subs are limited by Crew and Food capacity. Not saying they aren't "exotic" technology, but that again it's a short range (green water) type solution. Also Sub Reactors are generally cutting edge tech and those that have them want to keep their tech secret.
Do not forget sweden,very capable subs.
In some detailed work on procurement choices that I won’t do into, we found the core issue with US was more to do with the deep specialisation of each ship class, small countries need more multi mission designed ships, ie ASW, Anti surface, anti air, especially area denial, but us ships tend to do one role really well, as designed to be part of carrier group. EU etc were more multipurpose generalist ships.
You have quickly become one of my favorite youtubers.
I started watching when you made the first Ukrainian video and have stayed with you through it all.
Incredibly great content! I absolutely love it all!
Oh, I've seen you around! All the entertainment of Canopus and yet hour long powerpoints can still have that magic.
@@doctorgeneric8070 One must have equal parts in entertainment, economics, and war!
I started following Perun for his Dominions content. Him moving to such classy takes on the Ukraine war and defence industry was bit a blessing and a curse.
All bling no basics?
I wonder what the export graph would look like if the EU countries were considered a single unit. I.e. Not counting a sale from France to Spain as export.
I could do that with a little work. If I get a spare half an hour I'll do so and see what it throws up and include it in the Euro Defence video if it's interesting.
Dont know about military side, but as a block the EU is the biggest economic entity in history without question.
@@PerunAU that would be lovely!
@@madamesaundere How do you figure that? USA has a higher GDP and China is larger in terms of population and GDP too
@@silverhost9782 I’d say quality and quantity - US shipyards are outnumbered heavily in capability vs EU shipyards
42:00 "is that flagrantly illegal? Yes, but I stant by the concept." lmao
"Is it flagrantly illegal? Yes, it is but I stand by my concept." is a sentence I'll try to slip into my conversations starting right now.
"It's fragrantly illegal, but I stand by the concept!" 🤣😂
As a guy from Kiel, Germany, the place where all the German submarines are built, I found that video really interesting! Made me a bit proud of my indepted home city :) Ship building is still on decline though because of several businesses in the commercial ship building sector going bankrupt in 2008 and ThyssenKrupp selling off their commercial capacities
I feel you, the crises and the conversion to more big companies instead of more small ones is something that in this economy breaks the neck for many economic sectors in this country.
As a fellow German I wish most the german population didn’t have such a hateful stance against anything military related. Our arms industry is amazing
@@MaticTheProto there is amazing news around that Rheinmetall wants to massively expand capacity at their plant in Kiel-Suchsdorf. I really hope that gets through, Kiel is one of the most advanced military industry locations in Germany and the downturn in investment into our defence industry has really hurt the city a lot, the city has been at the brink of bankruptcy since the 90's and one big employer after another laid off staff or closed factories. People from other regions of Germany oftentimes think we are just not an industrialised place and that's the reason why the economy is struggling, the real reason is that the government has been eager to support car manufacturers in the south whenever possible while ignoring sectors like shipping or the military
Hi Perun. I just wanted to thank you for these videos. I know close to nothing of the topics you cover, so I can only imagine the amount of work you put in researching, compiling and comparing all these values. Every video of yours that I watch is filled with quality data, unlike many others out there. Thank you for your efforts. We appreciate them.
I second what he said.
I also am deeply grateful for the depth and detail in your videos - your channel is unique and it is my first choice for information on the Ukraine war and the many elements that are in play
I like to imagine imagine at the beginning of this week you had a long and well developed script surmising the past 7 months of the conflict, going in depth into supply chains, logistics, economic realities, and how things would probably be slow for awhile, and just had 3/4ths of that script rendered irrelevant by "haha Kharkiv offensive go BBBBRRRRRRRRR".
At least you don't have it as bad as Oryx, as Ukraine is capturing vehicles faster than one man can count.
"Oh sh*t!" - Full contents of the latest Russian army's internal inventory report 😉
A joke I saw online goes like this: By the end of this war, not only can Ukraine recoup all the tanks they've lost, they can give back all the tanks that other countries like Poland gave them (with interest!) and still end up with a bigger tank fleet than they started with before the war
@@dx-ek4vr Poland's moving on, they're getting SK and US tanks
@@dx-ek4vr I can't help but wonder if Ukraine is going to give some of these vehicles (and training) to other post soviet countries that are having problems with Russia...
@@drs4983 Poland, Finland, Germany, Czechia, & Baltic countries are being intentionally beefed up behind the curtains while their legacy systems are being shipped to Ukraine. They can't export more faster becuase they are all operating on a strict timetable. US military & NATO cooperation are making this "military operation" look worse & worse for the Russians as time drags on.
Came for ships, got a Tropico tutorial. Not disappointed in any way! Great video and very insightful, El Presidente congratulates you!
I think you're missing a trick, Japan is the ONLY nation that can produce a destroyer capable of operating F-35s, I mean, that's got to be a unique selling point 😇
That actually is an aircraft carrier instead of a ridiculous name at helicopter destroyer. Every modern destroyer mainly arms with missiles only carriers use jets as a primary weapon.
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Uh pretty sure Australia also did it
@@MacTac141 Australia had an aircraft carrier that took out two destroyers…
And Russia had multiple aircraft carrying cruisers.
@@rainboworiental9521 The ships you're referring to, Izumo and Kaga, aren't helicopter destroyers or aircraft carriers. They're "Multipurpose Operation Destroyer" that specializes in anti-submarine warfare through the generous use of rotary-wing aviation, off of their slightly enlarged helipads. These slightly enlarged helipads, as well as the destroyers helicopter hangers, have been retrofitted to allow for the occasional use of F-35B's (the VTOL variant), which realistically, are just fixed-wing helicopters, and make for very effective anti-submarine warfare platforms.
Recently became homeless staying in a hostel, but new Perun dropped so time to re-align my priorities for the night. Gives you an idea for the quality of these videos.
All the best mate , hope you're ok.
Stay strong king, you got this.
@@PerunAU Cheers.
I moved country, funnily enough to Oz, so it's not like I got laid off and lost my house or anything crazy. Just part of the process right now. I'm doing well enough to fit in the weekly hour long powerpoint. ;)
@@TACTICALPEPE It's an experience.
You're gonna make it.
The feeling one gets here when our host says "that will be in another video" is quite remarkable. Thank you for yet another great learning opportunity.
As a german fan, of course I am still here! Your video on the Bundeswehr was accurate and necessary!
I can only agree. Although my time at the Bundeswehr is 25 years ago, it matched what I saw in the video and also matched the procurement habits of other German ministries and agencies. Beschaffung - da liegt der Hund begraben.
Excellent work. Highights include: the bit when line was going up, then went down again, casinos and pools on warships, 76mm guns on cruise ships, clarifying the location of the ROK.
re: water cannon
There's also nothing more german arms than building something EASILY converted in war time. Rheinmetall really wants to export, but there are lots of limits on that under German law. So you ship out units and hope the locals keep them for riot control, e.g. with the conversion kits kept in germany with proprietary/secret tricks to keep third party contractors for swapping in the actual cannons. Really.
Thanks for clarifying! I was wondering about that - it looked like a water cannon could relatively easily be swapped out for any other type of cannon but would depend on whether the hull and surrounding materials would be able to support something much heavier, hotter, and wear-intensive.
Very interesting!
@@velvetmagnetta3074 when you lose a world war or two you get good
real good
at trade wars
@@QuizmasterLaw - Haha! Yes, and when you start both world wars, I suppose you get good at locking up war-making capabilities behind a robust wall of bureaucracy, thank goodness!
To add onto that: The whole point of the F-125 class of ships was to relief our surface combat vessels that do pack a punch (like the F-124 class) from low intensity mission which they were not designed and - to be frank - quite unfit for. Stuff like multiple VLS launchers are impressive, no doubt, and absolutely necessary in symmetric warfare but they won't give any benefit in anti piracy or humanitarian relief missions (aka basically all of the missions our navy undertook apart from NATO exercises in the last few years). They were seen as unnecessary dead weight and therefore removed from the next class of ships which were specifically designed for long standing times and a completey different mission profile as a whole.
The F-125 may not be a deadly surface combattant (especially compared to its weight and size), but it fits its intended mission profile to a T. Whether or not it actually excells in the missions it was designed for remains to be seen, but it definitely allows our actual warships to do their intended jobs.
@@Desmeria If we (Germany) got ourself some extra smaller low intensity frigates or so, that probably wouldve been fine. What we instead did, was invest a ton of money into large 8000 ton frigates, which drained budgets that were already small, and worse, replaced actually capable multi purpose frigates. Germany got a rotation of 3 types of frigate classes usually, and this replaced one of them. The math shouldnt difficult on how much capability got lost.
That doesnt even include the construction-problems, being so flawed they didnt get accepted and instantly returned for fixes. Or being overweight which means there isnt much space for upgrades, which is pretty bad for a warship, to say the least.
The F125 is a major mistake and gonna be a big drain on the german navy for their entire lifetime. Piracy isnt even a primary concern anymore, its mostly stopped and countries like Russia and China being beliggerent is way more of a problem.
The Kamatchka. Many pairs of innocent binoculars lost their lives because of that Russian ship. :D
I highly recommend Drach's "Voyage Of The Damned" video here on UA-cam.
Agree its a great video, and highly hilarious. I just loved their collection of 'pets'!
Hahaha, and I just noticed he has a sequel, the Battle of Tsushima.
1:59 Yes man, and there is a good reason... the Spaniards 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇺, or other European countries have vast experience (literally shipyards with centuries of tradition), World First Class engineers and they work cheaper... It has been very critizised, but take a look to the S-80 submarines series from Spain, soon they will be exported too, not only the frigates... it is not that well-known, but there are a lot of physical and human capacities in this sectors across the whole European Union 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺.
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I get national pride, but i'm not sure the S-80 is the best example, what with the delays and overweight issues.
La experiencia no se acumula por siglos.
Los astilleros españoles son unos recién llegados realmente.
No need to apologise for taking some time to collect data. This is why I'm here. If I want a quick, somewhat more biased and quite unreliable update, I can read a newspaper. However, I don't trust them to actually take the time and have the knowledge to see beyond official claims, twitter and the occasional reporter segment. That takes time, knowledge and passion, and has a much smaller audience. You're my go to source for that.
The research and expertise you display in the making of these video is incredible as always! I’ll end up falling asleep to this the first go through but by the third i’ll nail it hahaa
Great work with the caption team- really knocking it out of the park
I'm a South Korean but the future of our ship building industry doesn't seem that promising. After about decade long recession because you can't get as cost competitive as China they let go a lot of welders and they felt betrayed and found work somewhere else. Now orders are coming back in that gives the industry hope but no one is willing to return to the dockyards because past feelings and the pay is meager compared to the intensity and danger involved. And can't say a lot of people are willing to start working there when entrance level pay will be similar working at convenience store but with bigger chances of injury and death. The manpower shortage had the government recently loosen restriction for foreign works for the shipbuilding industry that isn't a fundamental solution .
A story as old as time with first world countries. We give big salaries to people who, far from creating value, literally suck wealth away from everyone else. A welder should get paid more than a trader.
@Chronochaos - What is the state of Union culture in Korea?
Like, do you have many industry unions? Are they big enough to influence the government?
We have some in the US that can command certain things like where the industry must hire from first, etc.
@@velvetmagnetta3074 unions are banned in South Korea, last time there was a strike in South Korea (carmaker industry), most of them were branded as enemies of the state, and those that survived the strike could not find work due to being blacklisted among the corps despite winning the legal case.
The series "squid 🐙 games" kinda talked about it in a fictional way.
Also corps dominate the government, as it was decided to let chaebols dominate the economy to build up the export base. There is a reason y south Korea is sarcastically known as Samsung's republic
@@ALV694 Unions aren't banned, but rather weak since there isn't support from the government. And in case of strikes there were multiple this year and last year, the most recent one on June.
@@velvetmagnetta3074 We do or I think we do. I'm not that sharp on the subject there there are unions that have big influence but I don't think the changes effect workers under subcontractors. And while they have influence I'm not sure on public support or efficiency.
Recently there was a strike at the Daewoo shipyards(DSME) with mixed reactions. Support for trying to fix the poor conditions and backlash for terrible timing. DSME was zombie firm being kept alive on tax money and was hoping to get back to normal because contracts were coming back but the strike left them with a $590mil loss and the strike seemed to stop when public opinion started to sour and the Korea Development Bank started to threaten that they would just let the company go bankrupt if the losses got higher.
At the end the strike just seemed to have made the situation worse and I doubt it'll bring positive change to the industry
I'd watch this dude's PPT about the thermodynamics of paint-drying. Just give us something to look forward to every week, lol.
31:53 I know you made a joke here, but I’d still like to address how accurate and fair your analysis of the Bundeswehr was.
While the people serving there are doing an amazing job, it’s important to point out all the shortcomings and structural problems that are still hindering them in their job.
Something no German in their right mind would find offensive.
I feel like this is a strength of many European. We don't have a problem with criticism of part of our governments(or armies). Even if the criticism comes from the outside, or if it hits part of our country that we are proud of.
In my experience many other countries don't like criticism about their country. And people from these countries also take the criticism somewhat personal.
also I have to assume that Perun knows this and plays with it every time the Bundeswehr comes up.
Perun: "I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not put a 76 millimeter gun on the cruise ship and let customers buy it. It's obviously very illegal and not possible..."
Me: "Why isn't it possible?"
Perun: "It's just not possible. "
Me: "Why not, you stupid bastard?"
It is possible, just illegal
You can, in fact, buy a 76mm cannon in the US. Just complete a BAFT Form 1 (the NFA form), pay your $200 Tax, and do the background check. Several months later, that 76mm Cannon is yours. The big issue is that each round of NON-EXPLODING ammo is also a Form 1 and a $200 Tax Stamp. Don't even THINK about explosive ammo in the US.
Dude I am completely obsessed with this content. Honestly could run this up the chain and brief a chief or commander on the situation. Keep up the good work!
Europe: "after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, we should increase our naval power"
Asia: "after the degradation of relationships between China and Taiwan, we should increase our naval power"
Leaonardo in Italy producing the FREMM frigade "allow us to introduce ourselves"
Thanks Perun for covering another topic I knew nothing about until now. Your well researched approach to every video is always appreciated.
I'm glad you opted to delay the Ukraine update; a wise choice to ensure greater accuracy as the fog of war clears over time.
I'm glad you are holding out on the war update. It's rapidly changing, whatever you record would be obsolete by the time you publish.
Good call on delaying the UA update video because of the recent incredible developments. It will be really interesting to see what has actually happened after the dust settles.
yup delayed since Ukraine just liberated over 4000 squarekilometers :) izyum just got liberated and there is talk about them advancing into luhansk, problem is hes myabe have to delay it further if the Kherson pocket also collapses
@@tuehojbjerg969
I wouldn't bet on Russia remaining stunned like they are. Take them a few days to move troops and stiffen routed ones.
Every plan that relies on the enemy not reacting, will fail. And if you ask my opinion, Ukraine should shift its focus south now. The Cherson region has more economical significance than the whole occupied eastern section, both the 2014-2021 occupied area and what they took recently. There's not much industry there. While unlocking the Dnipro river and securing full acces to the Black Sea (Odessa being within missile range just won't do longterm) is simply vital for Ukraine's economic succes.
Assuming Ukrainian army staff share that strategic analysis, we'll see the counteroffensive stop now that they've reached their goals and then shift south. This way Ukraine also retains the initiative and keeps Russia reacting.
@@tuehojbjerg969 Over 8000 square kilometers now :-)
@@nvelsen1975 I don't see Ukraine being in a hurry in the south. Kherson is a siege, not an assault. And Russia doesn't seem in a position to care about organizing a relief army right now.
@@illumi3604 yup noticed they are the the russian border in the north and pushing eastward also to some degree
This might not be the kind of channel that's mainstream with animations etc, but your audience is definitely going to be much more engaged I think and loyal. Loving the content.
I thought you would have your video this week with the sudden shift in conditions in Ukraine, I didn't expect a well researched interesting video instead. You consistently produce high quality content I feel should be given by a professor at a military university instead of on youtube. Thank you for your work.
Good call on postponing the 6-7 months update because holy shit the last few days lol
Look - a few things happened. Cross referencing anything has become hard and a lot of usual sources are going to be harder to get onto at the moment for obvious reasons.
As a pior nuclear machinists mate my last few years in the navy was spent in dry dock in New Port News shipyard and 21:28 I can verify that you don't have to like to think, but it is a fact that Admiral Rickover portrait is in a load of offices both on the ships and in the offices in the shipyard
Perun I will always appreciate your talent for efficiently giving absolute loads of information in a very easy to listen to and digest format. I especially appreciate you being as unbiased as possible and always give tons of objective information to back up your reasoning of what’s going on. Any military would be lucky to have you doing intelligence briefings and I look forward to your videos the most by a long shot.
I'd take a cruise with Perun any day...
His concept of cruise ship sounds fun
As Willy II pointed out a century ago: "Germany's future is at sea." 🙃 I am actually surprised, because there were some contractions in german yards in the last decade and the cancellation of some deals like the large series of patrol boats for Saudi-Arabia. Great Video! Thanks!
I will say outside of some of my more depressed days where I just do nothing, I have been following your content since you started with these style of videos. They are amazingly informative and well thought out. Thank you for making these.
Good luck with your coverage of the counter offensive, it feels like more and more data comes with each passing hour
Yeah i think he's going to have to wait till snow falls in Ukraine. Until then the front will probably continue to rapidly change.
Perun cant catch a break at this point
Brilliant presentation.
Don't forget the two Mistral-class Amphibious Carriers the French cancelled after the Crimean invasion.
Imagine the "Special Military Operation" if Russia had two amphibious carriers in the Black Sea.
So the French denied the Ukrainians some Prime target practice?
If we knew that russian navy lacked protection against missiles, we could have sold them.
Two pratice targets for Ukraine ; less money for Russia.
Fair deal.
Yes we choosed not to sell them to an autocratic regime like Russia. They were sold instead to the much more democratic Egyp... eer.. never mind.
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Did anyone claim that Russia being Autocratic was the problem?
Another great video my guy- have u ever considered making a video covering the PMC market? I saw task and purpose’s video on it and I had no idea how many PMCs China had- I think an in depth video would be really interesting - I understand if u can’t however- keep up the good work! U make Sunday my new favorite day of the week
I’m VERY interested in that somewhere down the road ^^ ❤️
I read and listen to geo-politics all day for work. Your videos are easily some of the best analysis that I have the pleasure of consuming and its better than most of the paid "professional" sources. Your dry wit and humor is also a welcome touch to spice up the presentations and keep the listener engaged. I really hope fortune shines favorably on you with ad revenue and the algorithm and I look forward to hearing your presentations for a long time to come. Spot on mate.
Your decision to delay Ukraine reporting is exactly why I impatiently await your next effort. As you say, accuracy trumps immediacy when it comes to long form reporting and analysis. There are hundreds of sources for breaking news, precious few for depth and reflection of carefully weighed data collection. Keep up the good work.
And most of those sources of breaking news are just rah rah propaganda.
I want to compliment the audio quality for this video. Keep up the amazing work man
Frigate yachts and armed cruise ships … we're learning so much on this channel! ;-)
I know this is one of your lesser viewed videos but I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed it and watched it twice. Once on my commute as a podcast then later I sat and watched the slides. Great work man.
Take your time with an update on the ukraine situation. Alot of media orgs tend to jump the gun and report anything and everything that comes up with a developing situation. Unfortunately that tends to spread alot of unverified info. I like this channel since it takes a moment to let things settle and report a more clear picture of what's going on. Will be waiting eagerly!
i agree what many below have commented on, which is that most countries outside of the US, are not global powers so their priority with their navies are completely different. the US is a global superpower and the ships that make up the US Navy reflects that. plus, the various exports law in the US heavily restricts what can be sold
I have never ever had even the slightest inclination to set foot on a cruise ship, not even if the tickets were free and I was being paid, but that 76mm cannon idea has me thinking differently…
There was a bad flew break out at one I was on. I was hallucinating grabbing apples out of thin air 😅 🍎
@@First-Last_name There’s a reason why they’ve been called floating “Petrie dishes” for long before COVID, the cruise ship industry always has regular outbreaks of the flu, various respiratory infections, norovirus and other GI infections that spread like wildfire in confined spaces…yuck!
To be fair, it’s not just ship builders who keep pictures of Admiral Rickover in their offices.
I love the ways that he presents these topics so much. Just enough humor to make the clear points being made more poignant.
In riso veritas 😉
You do not have German fans despite of the video about the Bundeswehr. Rather because of it.
It is good, that someone finally said it so clearly.
Currently, my favorite “show” to watch, on all media areas.
I keep coming back to these videos, refreshing my memory. You have taught me a lot.
As a Brit, I'm left feeling a little neglected. I know we're just a little, inward looking, island off the European coast these days, but I was fairly sure we were still exporting things that kill in some numbers. Well, maybe not things that float and kill, but we did make an aircraft carrier recently. OK, it's not got any planes, and doesn't work too well, and we haven't exported it (yet), but we did make it!
Oh, and our Queen just died, so surely that counts for something??
I like all of your videos Perun, but as an old seadog myself I must admit I really loved this one! Take as long time as you feel you need for the next uppdate, your videos are worthwhile waiting for!!!
Perun, I found and subscribed to your channel not long after you started posting videos about the Ukrainian/Russian war and the related subjects. I just wanted to say that the level of comprehensive detail that you go into is incredible and has become one of several gold standards for how I judge info videos. Keep up the incredible work! Slava Ukraini!
As a german, i feel obliged to comment - your analyses of the Bundewehr was spot on and unbiased.
On the 1904 torpedo boat thing, the entire voyage of the second pacific squadron was an absolute disaster, and there are plenty of good videos on it.
And the _Kamchatka_ kept spotting 'Japanese torpedo boats' the whole voyage. Drachinifel's "Voyage of the Damned" is my favorite example.
@@boobah5643 Except for the *actual* Japanese ships anyway, which they somehow managed to misidentify as Russian.
@@boobah5643 that was my first exposure to Drach’s channel, actually. Thanks, Mike Duncan.
It's a wonder why they thought the Japanese were there in Europe.
Probably because the UK is allied to Japan and somehow thought the Brits were housing some secret Japanese task force to intercept their fleet leaving Europe? Or maybe they were actually wary of the Brits entering the war alongside Japan, thus attacking British vessels, but just came up with the dumb excuse to not escalate things?
If only Beresford had had a crack at them with the Channel Fleet. How history may have changed.
Once again, a lot of information about a subject I knew absolutely nothing about, in which you kept me entertained and educated. LOL
Thanks again for your well researched analysis. I was surprised you didn't mention the the incursion of Fincatieri into the US shipbuilding market with its acquisition of Marinette Marine and the development to build FREMM frigates for USN. Looking forward to the 6 month review, don't worry that your video might be as much of a wild ride as the Ukrainian offensive.
Hi Perun! Thanx so much for this, from a Spaniard here. Keep up your great work, please!. Anxious for your vid on the evolution of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, especially given recent developments...
My favourite weekly PowerPoint content
So much great info here. I look forward to your videos every week.
this is a cool video, however i think it may have been good to also cover the UK, while not part of the EU it has an odd placing in it namely, BAE systems and rolls royce, not to mention the UK is coming into the export market quite heavily now, with the planned exports of numerous somewhat high tech frigates to commonwealth nations and the fact that Australia is likely soon going to be buying SSN's.
it might be a good idea to just do a overview of the uk in general and how its stuff hits the export market, namely the fact that now adays militaries are buying alot of stuff the UK has had a big hand in, things like the F35, NLAW, alot of naval systems, Rolls royces hand in innumerable aircraft being used by militaries, the EURO fighter typhoon, panavia tornado, harrier. and also the upcoming things like the exports of new frigates and the joint development between sweden Italy and the uk on a new 6th gen fighter plus rolls royces involvement in japans new 6th gen project.
As a former Newport News Shipyard employee, I can confirm that I did (and still do) have a picture of Admiral Rickover hanging in my cubicle
I love watching content from Perun!
Feels like watching something fun like a thriller movie (personal opinion) and twice as deep.
I'm really excited for the war updates when they're ready, you clarify and verify things wonderfully Perun!
I love this new fantasy state concept. Please use it in the future if you find it fitting.
Narrative in the Perun-verse, you say? 🥸
Well take my money & sign me up ❤️
Hey, just wanted to say that the new graph zoom in is very appreciated. Makes graphs way easier to read. Cheers!
I was wondering what the weekly PowerPoint would be about this week, and while I would love a Ukrainian update, I expected that the fog of war would preclude that. Thanks for explaining all of the reasons why different countries might make political choices that aren’t only about price or total capabilities. I think those are sometimes forgotten.
I want to share these high quality videos with someone but I don’t know anyone who would be as eager as I am to watch a 1hr PowerPoint
Strange, as an American I've always viewed warships as an asset that a military must always make themselves, never considering the fact that some nations without good navel building could just buy them from somewhere else like an airplane.
You can buy them from other countries but I think a navy is something you should try to do yourself.
There is a third option, widely used by the British. Get the French to build them for you and then just take them.
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Would you happen to know if the Brits still leave them unattended on the Medway by any chance?
Generally if you have enough coastline and shipping to need a navy, you probably already have shipyards anyway.
I think it depends on the country's budget and it's geography. In my eyes personally, the US basically have 10/10 location and economy and thus capable to max out on each industry, land, air and sea. Whereas most smaller countries can probably focus on one or two of those aspects and buy the rest to fill in the spaces.
In my country, we invested heavily on domestic RnD on land and naval systems that we pretty much lack any industries on aerospace. So we just straight up buy F16s/F15s/F35s, logistics and what not for the airforce. On the flip side we also make our own vessels (to a degree) and buy whatever equipment to fill in the gaps, like frigates or submarines.
It isn't often that I'll watch an > 30 minute video but yours go by very easily. Thanks for your hard work.
New Slideshow dropped, my day is saved :D
Never boring, always clear and engaging. Something to look forward to, keep it up.
Wishing Ukraine continued success in both the South and North East.
Here's a funny story: Apparently, while the offensive in the Kharkiv Oblast was going on, Putin was busy inaugurating a ferris wheel in Moscow. Gotta hand it to Putin, man has his priorities straight
@@dx-ek4vr here's a funny update: Apparently that same ferris wheel has already broken down
I work for a small US shipyard in the US that is trying to break in to the defense industry and I have to say that this video is spot on. I really want to show it to my boss and his boss.
Did you show it to them yet?
@@theprophetofthepastagod5633 Not to my boss, but to some of my coworkers.
Weird that you didn't mention the Constellation deal. That's essentially Italy exporting the FREMM to the US Navy.
So, not only the US don't export ships, but they even found themselves as the importers.
Italy has also made a deal with Korea for a technology transfer over the mentioned CVX.
This confirms Korea's lack of experience in the military shipbuilding, as you were suggesting, despite its large commercial shipbuilding capabilities.
as far as I remember, US is not importing the ships but those ships need to be build under license in US Shipyards.
There is a law in US that prevent military to buy equipment that is not produced in US.
I always get excited when I see a new Perun video drop. Your content is so informative and enjoyable. Keep up the good work
I like the idea of a Gatling gun on a cruise ship - turning it into a 'cruiser'. Fun for the whole family.
There was a common thing in the early 20th century of governments subsidising the construction of fast liners and cargo ships with locations built into the design to take guns and other weapons in case of war, the Armed Merchant Cruiser. There were a number of notable incidents during WW1 and WW2 of these ships actually engaging in fights but they turned out to not do very well even against smaller warships due to lack of armour, trained warfighting crews, damage control etc. When these ships ran into the Big Boys it was pretty much game over immediately (see the AMC Jervis Bay vs. Kriegsmarine heavy cruiser Hipper for an example).
USN 1945 strength was 6 supercarriers (Midway and Forrestal fitting out), 24 Essex class Fleet Carriers, 9 Light Carriers, 158 Escort Carriers, 4 Iowa class Battleships, 4 South Dakota class Battleships, 2 North Carolina Class Battleships, 12 Standard Class Battleships, 200 plus cruisers, almost 1000 destroyer and destroyer escorts, and a lot of submarines. And there is a enough vessels still in the reserve fleet to replace every vessel in the active fleet... twice.
Incorrect in a number of particulars. In particular, the Forrestal class weren't even ordered until 1951 so could not have been fitting out in 1945. The cruiser count was nowhere near 200 (I count about 81 that survived the war), and the escort carriers would be disposed of almost as soon as the war was over.
@@kemarisite USS Card, an Escort carrier was serving as an aircraft ferry during the Vietnam War, most where still in service under 1946-1948. Was wrong about Cruiser count and Forrestals... Want to count destroyers ranging from Clemson to Gearing plus destroyer escorts?
Comprehensive. Very well presented.
Watching through this - you are uniquely good at making great videos on boring topics. Your way of structuring the topics and building a story to explain it plus the occasional joke ist stellar. Keep it up
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Oz move from French Naval Group diesel submarines to a US/UK nuclear alternative (when the French could have done that too).
We Australians realise the AUKUS deal was the last grasp of a desperate and unpopular political party stuck in the cold war and generally in the past , and realise that the deal will never go through .
@@mathewkelly9968 do you think it might be geopolitically strategically important? Assuming there will be a strong confrontation with China at some point.
I know almost zero of Aussie politics, so please explain, I'd be very happy to learn the reality from an Aussie. Thanks.
I think Perun stays away from politics. The AUKUS decision was extremely political and maybe isn't globally important enough for him to dance around that fact.
The French submarine deal was also five years behind schedule…
Also french nuclear boats don't have a reputation for being that quite either
Minor thing maybe, but I really wanted to say that I appreciate the effort you take in saying names correctly in their local pronunciation.
"That's the southern one for anyone who wasn't sure." Classic.
I’m a simple man, I see Perun posts a new video and I immediately click on and watch it. Keep up the great work man!
Thanks for touching on the russian second pacific squadron :D I can't recommend Drachinifel's video enough on this topic.
Poland also has Oliver Hazzard Perry Class cruisers with the Polish Navy.
Hi Perun, thanks for all the research you do. Once America brought those destroyers from Italy i knew it was a different world.
Drachnifel's video on that 1904 journey is just gold.
*Ducks thrown binoculars*
thank you for another educational start to my sunday. was thinking it was more of an issue of not wanting to export vs. not having export potential. this really set in stone some key points beyond what data simply shows.