Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus | The Absurd | Philosophy Core Concepts
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This is a video in my new Core Concepts series -- designed to provide students and lifelong learners a brief discussion focused on one main concept from a classic philosophical text and thinker.
This Core Concept video focuses on Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus, specifically on his discussion about what the Absurd is, and the triadic relation that comprises it, consisting of the human being, the world, and the divorce between them.
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I’m in my 80s & have persued Camus all my life like a best friend. This is one of the best discussions of the Absurd according to Camus that I have ever seen. Good job!
Thanks!
the "irrecognizable separation" that he points out is exactly what makes camus my favorite philosopher that I connect with the most. Anyone who thinks this lecture isn't deep doesn't truly understand it.
I do have to admit that one of the things I really do like about Camus is his consistency in the essay. . . there's no trying to put a nice face on matters for him
My best metaphor is a painter who is painting a picture of himself, who in the painting, is painting the world around himself.
There's a Rockwell painting sort of along those lines
Using consciousness to unlock the meta
We’ve always got this nostalgia for something that we feel is lost or missing, but it was never there to begin with. We never had that and we’re always seeking that and we want that from the world. The problem is that’s not what the world is going to provide you, that’s not what you get in this environment that’s not what you’ll ever get. Wow, Professor, that was powerful thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Philosophy is really stepping out of my comfort zone and you really helped me out with these videos. I greatly appreciate it.
Glad to read it!
Great Video. You keep saying "Siphisus".
Glad you enjoyed it. Beleive it or not, you're not the first person to point that out.
Good teacher: Clear, wise, human and humble.
Thanks!
Absurd is when you stand in front of a mirror and ponder over what the other man is thinking about.
I would agree with what you said about Camus being an existentialist in a broad sense, this common belief in him being in "absurdist" in opposition to an existentialist is because Camus often argued against the label of existentialist during public lectures and in some writings..
Yep, as did Marcel, and Heidegger, and . . . but looking back, he does fit solidly within the movement
what a great clip.
very clear and down to earth way of articulating the idea.
spiralsone Thanks! Glad you found it useful
The level of shade you threw at scientists and mathematicians (myself included to some degree lol) when you called them stunted was sobering, but spot on mate. I have this obsession with quantifying philosophical ideas and how they relate to the human experience of qualia that has well, stunted me. Thanks to people like you who make this sort of information free to access, people like me have a better shot of overcoming those hurdles. Loved the lecture
Glad it was useful for you!
When I was in college, I was a math major myself, which meant taking classes not just with the math types, but also the engineering, computer science, and even math ed majors
For some reason the way you talk reminds me of The Dude. Great video!
This was brilliant; easy to follow and insightful. Thank you for the introduction to Absurdism!
You're quite welcome!
Thank you for adding this to the world. What you're doing is good for all of us. Thank you.
You're very welcome
Thank you very much Dr. Sadler! I'm going through the Myth of Sisyphus and this helped me by clearing somethings up :)
Glad it was useful for you
Fantastic lectures, many thanks!
You're welcome -- glad you enjoy them
hey! Always found Albert Camus and his concept of Absurdism interesting, intriguing. Your video is big help. I'm quite into philosophy and hopes to know more concepts, at least in its rudimentary level. Keep it up, and thanks a lot.
You're welcome
Man, thanks you so much! You put everything across very clearly and you managed to help me solidify an understanding of this which I've been trying to grapple for some time. I've been planning to explore Camus' philosophy on absurdity for an upcoming project and I was wondering if you could recommend any examples in literature or film which demonstrate Absurdity well besides Camus' works, that and any critiques of the philosophy?
Good job of conveying the information.
Thanks
I'm finding myself more and more captivated by the application of quantum theory to various philosophies. All things seem to boil down to the one(the self), the other, and the point where the two interact. I'm personally at a loss of how to describe this in any substantive sense. Triads seem to be a theme that is unavoidable in a dualistic universe.
Thank you for the great lectures I love them!!!
You're very welcome! You might consider becoming a supporter on Patreon - www.patreon.com/sadler
Thank you for the video!!
You're welcome!
He was my favorite at one time
Who is your favorite now?
@@anonymouse1289 I don't have favorites now
@@GregoryBSadler Why? What changed ascribing the label "favorite"? Truly appreciate this video
@@42itousfate When you study any field in depth for a while, there ought to be growth and changes
@@GregoryBSadler This makes sense. It also makes sense that we would have our own individual path to growth and changes as we learn more...If you're open to it, would welcome your suggestions on where you steered next from Absurdism...Thanks for your time 🙏
Ab hominem ad infinitum: Knowledge is finite, but the pursuit of knowledge is infinite.
Thanks for this one. He actually does explain a bit on the paradox of explaining the absurd and mentions that his explanation of it will not have a complete truth because it technically doesnt exist. Which of course i agree that this is absolutely existentialism. In my own personal thought is that the only way to solve any philosophical problem is to recognize that any meaning we come across is never an absolute and is always dependent and depended upon to even exist in the nature of interaction. In other words for anything to be perfectly absolute, our reality would simply have to stop existing. Once we find a separation in anything, we find the traces of the first philosophical question. His is by far the closest ive come across to my own passive thoughts of existing while being burdened by having to exist at the same time. Again thank you.
You're quite welcome!
Awesome video. Have to do a paper on the concept of absurdity from Albert Camus. I have subscribed to your channel.
Glad it was useful for you
I'm really enjoying your lectures on Camus. Have you considered releasing these as audio podcasts as well? They would be nice to listen to when UA-cam isn't an option. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Not sure if you are aware now considering the time since you wrote this, and if you've followed him you might be aware but he has now at least podcast episodes of his videos, at least the newer episodes
thank you for a great video
You're welcome. Well. . . that's an interesting one.
Given the standard narrative, and the Buddha's sermons about the nature of the world and human desire, I think you could say that what he encountered is in fact what Camus is calling the Absurd.
The Buddha, though, comes up with quite a different response . . and by the time that you get to Mahayana Buddhist schools, for the most part they've managed to make the whole universe have meaning again!
Excellent explanation, thanks alot :)
You're welcome!
Great video. Thanks! SUBBED!
You're welcome!
This is pretty amazing, but it would be great if you would transcribe it in the description! Thank you.
Well, if you'd like to commission my time to do that work, I'd be happy to engage in it. Otherwise, I'll stick to producing the free video content
Camus is my favorite philosopher.
I didn't understand 'the absurd', now I do. Thank you.
You're welcome
Thanks for uploading this! Would it be accurate to say that the Buddha encountered the Absurd when he became disillusioned with his life in the palace after experiencing the four sights?
new Core Concept video -- aimed at clearing up some confusions about what "the Absurd" actually means for Camus in the Myth of Sisyphus
Gregory B. Sadler Excellent video Dr. Sadler! I just made a video about Camus' Myth of Sisyphus. You do a tremendous job of fleshing out the subtleties of the text. Thanks for your work!
The Rugged Pyrrhus You're welcome!
And, as they say: life is short, but art is long
Thanks man, this helps us first years out a lot ^_^
You're welcome! glad it was useful for you
Your video has served me well, thanks for sharing.
I'm in need of a little help professor , I'm writing a research about Existentialism in Franz Kafka's Writing and I have to go back to see the relation or did it happen from Modernism to theater of absurd to existentialism! is there any book , article , video that helps ?
Thank you again professor.
Glad the video has been useful for you. There's no book that comes to mind for me, but there's plenty out there on those topics. I'd start digging around in your library, and also use JSTOR/MUSE, etc. searching on those particular terms
Thanks!
I've looked into that a bit. But, there's plenty of UA-cam to mp3 converters out there -- so really, anyone can make a podcast out of these.
Prof Sadler,
I was wondering what your thoughts were on any similarities between McGinn and Camus. Specifically McGinn's argument that the Mind-Body problem cannot be solved. His argument says that there are two ways in which we have attacked the mind-body problem thus far, through observable science and introspection, coming to the conclusion that neither of these will answer the problem. Your thoughts on these similarities (if any) would be most helpful!
I haven't read McGinn, as far as I know.
great!
Thank you.
You're welcome!
How do stoics feel about absurdim? There is some connection between stoicism and absurdism?
There is no intrinsic or historical connection between Stoicism and absurdism
Gregory B. Sadler But if we look after an intrinsec or Historical,...tradition connection. Where we have to look?
You start with the texts, right? Interpretations that aren't grounded in the texts are usually a waste of time
So Camus would say that the word contains both absurdity and reasonableness, because to call the world absurd presupposes an understanding of rationality as found in the world. ?
It presumes an understanding of rationality that is not actually found in the world, but desired as being there -- where that understanding, or rather "nostalgia", comes from. . . Camus doesn't really say
I thank you.
You're welcome!
It's been a while since I read The Myth of Sisyphus. I have to say, I wish you were around when I first tackled it. But it seems you're leaving out what he recommends to do about it. I'm a bit fuzzy, but he does suggest that you can take up a hobby, cause, or religion to provide one's life with meaning, but that this is a sort of evasion of the issue of the Absurd. Does one go on living, or does one end it? I think he says that one should go on living, but I don't quite remember his argument for doing so...
You realize this is a Core Concept video, right? I have three 1-hour videos on the Myth of Sisyphus over in the Existentialism playlist
Haven't got to them yet, but hope to get to them soon.
PS: It wasn't my intention to upset or offend you.
J. Cloyd
You didn't
+Gregory B. Sadler Brilliant content! I was wondering if you would consider making another Core Concept video on Absurdity as a starting point. I am watching your other videos on Camus, yet there are unmistakable advantages to the format of the core concept videos. There is a sort of enhanced clarity that comes with this short form. It would be useful for many people as a practical guidance to their lives myself included. I really enjoy your videos and thank you for making them available to the public! Thanks
Gregory could you please do more on existentialism please?
ua-cam.com/video/vkXKtxleGA8/v-deo.html
I can certainly relate to the world not behaving as I think it should! Absurdity abounds definitely! Is Camus the most pragmatic philosopher I wonder?
Camus thinks that there's a lot of other philosophers who have many of the same insights about the absurd. If you read the text, you'll see him discussing them
When Camus, or anyone discussing Camus, mentions "the world", is that essentially indicating everything that isn't "the self"? Or is it something more specific?
You're part of the world too, aren't you?
You're welcome
It seems as though we are complicit in the absurdity of everything, since it is our search for "meaning" outside of ourselves that creates the 3-way intersection. We think everything is absurd (or it *is* absurd) because it fails to meet an inherent need for meaning. Maybe we're looking in the wrong place for something that is potentially in existence on some level?
Is "the leap" the same thing as nostalgia for Camus?
Good question -- no, it's not at all the same. Nostalgia for the never-existing (in Camus' view) rational relation between the human being and the world is part of the condition of the absurd. Taking "the leap" is a possible response to the absurd
Yes, there's no reason which would rule out the absurd being beautiful in some manner.
Great clarification on Camus! The big-box-store version is so "life is meaningless" that existentialists are getting a bad rap as nouveau philo-punks. Absurdity is as beautiful as its inputs, I believe.
That sounds like a job for "Google, man". There are literally hundreds of critiques of Camus' position of one stripe or another.
Glad the videos are useful for you
This was a helpful video. Thank you!
Well, not much to say to that. Anything to say about the actual content of the video?
I value absurdity for creating greater individualism...I think I often explore the opposite side of the spectrum from most people, which actually contributes to overall balance in society (even if I may appear to be "unbalanced" by some people's judgment). Absurd, isn't it? The reason I am exploring this may be even more absurd.
You might mean something different by "absurdity" than what Camus means
Gregory B. Sadler Maybe.
It was my understanding that Camus advocated a strong uncertainty or scepticism of inherent meaning coupled with a defiant pursuit of it?
That's one way to put it, I suppose, though it's really less about "uncertainty" or "skepticism" than the disconnect and disharmony between the human being and the world
@@GregoryBSadler Well I guess it also depends on whether we are just talking about the absurd or Absurdism as a whole. I understand that the absurd is a significant concept in absurdism, but what I thought really sets absurdism apart from other existentialist philosophies or nihilism is in the response to the absurd. If the absurd is the disharmony between humans desire to seek inherent meaning and our in ability to find any, then embracing the absurd seems to me to be a kind of scepticism or uncertainty of inherent meaning itself. I mean the absurd itself as I've seen it defined doesn't lend a lot of weight to the existence of inherent meaning on it's own.
Well, there is no "absurdism as a whole" as far as I can see.
And my point wasn't to say that Camus is endorsing "inherent meaning". It's to say that the way you're framing it - and you can do whatever you like, after all - doesn't seem to jibe with Camus well
@@GregoryBSadler So what do you make of the 3 responses to the absurd that Camus says we have, physical suicide, philosophical suicide, and rebellion?
You know, I've created 1-hour lecture videos going through the whole text, which you can easily find in my channel.
My time is a scarce resource. If you'd like to have a longer, in-depth discussion about Camus' works and thought, you may consider booking a tutorial session. If you're interested, here's the page - reasonio.wordpress.com/tutorials/
I should mention that, as busy as I currently am with classes, existing clients, content production, and events, I'm not taking on any new clients until mid-October
If one digs deep enough, the absurd can't be fully explained, only accepted.
Yep. Nobody pretends to entirely explain it.
Of course, Camus says the opposite of you in the work. The absurd isn't to be accepted, but revolted against
@@GregoryBSadler but the revolt is ultimately absurd and a byproduct of the initial acceptance. It was not my intention to offend or debate and I apologize. It's a very complex subject.
I really enjoyed your video.
Monty Python were familiar with Camus.
I suspect they were indeed
that's absurd!
FilmsFor SMARTpeople I remember they did an entire skit about Jean Paul Sartre
hope you and yours are well, professor Sadler. Camus is having a moment right now, eh? lol
I think a lot of people are buying - and usually then not reading - the Plague, yes
I've read the stranger, should I read the myth of sysyphus? I'm not that bothered either way, just seems like something someone like me would ask.
Whenever you ask "should I read X" and it's a book likely to be worth giving a shot, that's what we call a "no-brainer"
@@GregoryBSadler sorry sir was trying to be clever and funny, I will read it yes
thx
You're welcome
Do we need to read the myth of sisyphus to read this book?
read the book, and find out
@@GregoryBSadler but the problem is I am having trouble understanding the book. What can I do?
@@earnrobuxandmore5768 Read, reread, watch the videos. It takes work, right?
@@GregoryBSadler thank you so much. ❤What should I do before reading Camus? Do I need to read a book?
@@earnrobuxandmore5768 You read the book in question, The Myth of Sisyphus
There's a certain absurdity to doing a serious study (like Camus does, and like I'm doing of Camus here) of the meaning and structures of absurdity
Professor lectures on Camu's concept of the absurd. While he pushes the stone to the top it is revealed that Sisyphus is pronounced incorrectly. When the professor looks below he becomes conscience of the absurd nature of communicating so much information only for so many people to point out his mispronunciation.The professor will become the absurd hero when he happily says Sisyphus' name correctly.
I'll probably always shift into mispronouncing it. And, quite frankly, given how much free content I provide people on philosophy, getting that one name right is pretty low on my priorities
The univers is indiferent
What makes the world so irrational that the nostalgia we seek becomes irreconcilable? Camus accepted atoms and electrons, so why suddenly remove himself from science and call it poetry
Not sure what you're asking here
No, you'd need to be accredited -- by one of the regional accreditation bodies -- before you can even join the ACE
This discussion was rather rudimentary, however the one thing i can appreciate out of your work is the passion. Even though most of your videos don't dig deep enough for me, I deeply respect your passion for teaching.
How nice -- you've watched several hundred of my videos then, if you can say something about "most".
As far as being "rudimentary", you might read the video description. These Core Concept videos are designed to be precisely that.
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+Thomas Moore Hahaha! Best of luck with that!
I really enjoy your lecture but i am distracted by how much you look like Kevin from Shameless.
Glad you enjoyed the lecture
Thank you, sir.
Man sees the absurd in the world, so he creates God.
That's quite a leap there
@@GregoryBSadler Sorry, I guess I should have explained my idea better. I think what happens, when faced with a world that he finds irrational, disappointing or unreasonable, he will try to find reason or meaning behind it. Anthropomorphizing the universe to make sense, even though it seems so chaotic, man wants to give it a "piece of heart." It seems a natural reaction, to me at least, that when faced with that uncertainty and longing for his nalstalgia, man would create a projection of himself to gain some control in a world that he finds absurd. That way he can relieve that constant existential nagging that he has and give simple answers to very complex questions. Thereby creating god.
Sorry if my idea doesn't make sense. Probably not fleshed out enough. Great video by the way.
Hahaha! You never know if you're going to have the time -- more of the absurd, eh?
It has meaning but is ultimately pointless, for at least your lifetime. Everything every one did in the past has brought us here today. The absurd is ultimately a contradiction. Nihlism but with hope.
I'll have to check out your other videos. I just discovered The Absurd.
Join, or Die There is no hope, thats the point.
There is, and that is absurd.
+Gregory B. Sadler is this correct what he says?
I do my artistic research about this subject, it would be pretty amazing if it is true. Then I have finally an explanation for my art.
+Antonnie ofzo I've no idea what "this" refers to here, or whether "he" refers to Camus or to Join or Die (since you're writing in his comment thread).
I've presented Camus' position, as I do with any other philosopher I discuss in my videos, accurately
Your dark tie on your dark shirt is causing me nausea.