This is what happens in this pc generation, 'ethical diversity' hiring practices taking precedent over hiring the person with the most experience/skill.
@@greatunz67 indeed. she didnt look like she would kneww the name of the guns that was used even. she looks to me like one of those that would demonstrate against gun rights
Aug 13th. FBI, Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger in fatal ‘Rust’ set shooting. The FBI forensic report concludes, the gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger.
@@satguy reminds me of the movie “The Right Stuff” where that one guy opened the hatch prematurely but was arguing it went off by itself and the scientists were like, nahh cant happen
Every single person who touches a gun has the job to check it. This is the most basic firearms safety rule there is. Even if you saw the armorer check it just a minute ago before giving it to you, your first job is to check it again. If this safety rule had been properly followed, no one would have died.
let's see what the facts are first before you make that determination prematurely, she may not have been present or notified that the gun was supposed to be used. The AD was the one who handed the gun to Alec. Why not charge him? He was the one who could have also looked inside the gun chamber to make sure there were only dummy rounds. The armorer isn't the only one to blame here, each and every person who was in charge in running this operation from bottom to top had some accountability in this, and that also includes Halyna, may she RIP.
@@Catrik Oh so now you have witnesses who say the guy who fired the gun was seen opening the chamber and fiddling with it moments before it killed someone? I'm sorry. But NO ONE but the professional should be opening and/or fiddling with the guns on a movie set. They cannot expect actors to know what to look for.
Her father is an armorer in the film industry. She got her job because of his connections. A good portion of the jobs in the entertainment industry are based on who you know.
@@wrayven she also got it due to the 'ethical diversity' hiring practices that have been pushed by the liberal pc generation so much in the last 10-15 years.
@@greatunz67 She got the job because of nepotism. Get a grip. I bet her father Thell Reed has a bunch of contacts among independent filmmakers and asked one of them to give his daughter a try. Here is a clip of him talking about working on Django Unchained: ua-cam.com/video/UGbx24hlK9Q/v-deo.html
If anyone's gonna be charged, I'm pretty confident that the Armorer will be the one in hot water. She loaded the gun and was suspose to check, double check even triple check it and She was obviously careless and I think that the guy in the hat and black that was always by her side distracted her or something, they seem like a couple by the way he was following her around and comforting her. I just feel like she was distracted somehow, because it's a SIMPLE task that she had to do and for the time she had to make sure Alec had a cold gun, there should be no reason for that to have happened. I think she's not being 100% truthful and who sits in a police car like that, she really think she's special, after all....daddy got her the job, way to go dad! This is why these careers require a degree but in the film industry, I guess you just gotta know someone that's got a foot in the door....sad, totally preventable. It just makes me sick that she was more worried about her job rather than the two people that were shot due to her carelessness! Sending prayers out to Halayna and her family 🙏.
@@curtisbrown5939 Hello Mcfly!....it's not his JOB to check the gun, He's an Actor, not an armorer, Hentz....That's the whole reason they have an "Armorer" on movie sets and have schools for it, because IT'S THERE JOB to make sure they're loading the proper casings into the gun, it's the ONE THING she had to do....and again... cause I don't think it's getting across to you....ITS HER JOB! That's why she was hired!! Not to stand around saying she's an armorer....but to load and unload the guns with thee proper bullet's....🤦. All she had to do was look and make sure it had a hole in the casing, why she missed that is beyond me.... stupidity is my guess, seeing that it's like a plague these days.
He never learned of her death on set like they suggested in this video by splicing him in learning of the entry points and then the voice-over saying that this is when he learned of her death. Shady reporting. He didn't find out until the last minute of his over hour long interview with detectives hours later. It was a very surreal moment. Check that out. He helped them out as much as he could for an hour and at the end of the interview they told him and he shut up really quickly. He was unnkowingly in shock but also knew he was in trouble at the same time in that moment.
@@iceswallow7717 either way I'll say again, my original statement stands. Acting or not acting, guilty or not guilty: He didn't know she died until the end of the interview. There would be no way he could.
@@agitatedmongoose they told him the bullet went across her entire body. And who cares when he figured out she died why the fuck was it pointed at her anyway
It shouldn't have had any ammo in it. It was a rehearsal. HOWEVER, the ammo wouldn't have caused a problem if Alec hadn't : cocked the hammer, pointed the gun at his victim, and pulled the trigger! Script supervisor said there was NO call for cocking the hammer or shooting the gun in that scene!
@@kmeccat doesnt matter, at all. WHether or not he was supposed to shoot the gun in thee scene doesnt matter at all. Actors improvise all the time and there is absolutley no reason a real bullet should be loaded into the prop.
@@kmeccat LOL, Another way off base. It's a single action revolver and he was drawing the gun to show 2 guns in the seen. The hammer has to be cocked on the draw. The gun should have been safe to do that.
@@Lala_Delrei Yes, it is his responsibility to check the gun. That's if you know anything about firearm's safety, which you do not. Do you also believe Baldwin when he said he didn't pull the trigger and that the gun just "went off" when he cocked it? Impossible with a single action old west firearm.
as long as guns are use in movies it will all ways happen sometimes mostly the Armours fault not the acters not there job....unless u want some crap CGI gun sounds and flashes lol
No lessons were really learned they’re already in place. On a similar note driving to sat is more dangerous in that case lessons were learned Megans law
@@greatunz67 No it's not, stop lying and making up bullshit based on your emotions you crybaby her daddy was a famous armourer, so she got the job. It's nepotism, always has been since forever.
What a Preventable Tragedy!! Who was minding the the inexperienced with the Killer Props? Why were they even Hired? Too inexperienced, Someone needs to Answer for this!! That poor Family! 😢
Her dad is a famous armorer in the industry is why she got the job. She has been on set with her dad so she knows the protocols ... it is simply and complete neglect on her part.
Or planted? But that's my theory. They also said the there is a couple who distract the armourer. Maybe they need to investigate them too. Also why is the person with her didn't check her work?
@@jeremycovelli If that is true, then couldn’t she had just warn him that there was a live round in the gun before he was gonna use it, and that she forgot to remove the bullet while she was “playing” with it?
Most People don't seem to Understand, Alec is an actor his job is to act. He was given a gun which was suppose to be unloaded by the armorer who was supposed to check the gun's condition beforehand. It's not Alec's job to check the gun. In conclusion, the armorer is responsible for that, It's her job to double check every weapon props used on set. What's worse she don't really seem to care judging from her reaction.
Standard protocol was Not followed by the Actor. Alec knows better. Check the gun. Don’t aim it anyone. Have safety glass if you must aim gun at camera. Use a fake gun for rehearsal. Standard.
it LITERALLY is everyones job to check the gun. Every single person who touches a gun, must check if it's in the condition that it's supposed to be (unloaded, or loaded with correct type ammo. Blanks or fakes, but almost never real ammo in filming). Trying to say anything else just means you do not understand even the most basic firearms safety.
@@latentsea Yup, you're right about that, however, Alec is an actor and not a regular gun owner, he might've been focused on the act rather than the gun. And that's the reason why there are armorers, because these actors has higher probability if forgetting the sop's of handling a gun, or they could be complacent that the gun is safe because they have armorers. Anyway, the armorer is quite suspicious having 3 incidents of loaded gun during the set. Either she is dumb or she's doing it on ourpose. 1 time is enough for a person to learn from the experience but 3 times? it is wuite unusual.
This armorer is an immature, inexperienced young girl. They should never have hired her. Alec has been in many movies involving weapons and KNOWS weapons safety protocol. He chose to ignore ALL safety protocol. Guaranteed if the scene called for him to attempt suicide by pointing the gun at his head and pulling the trigger, he'd have TRIPLE checked that the gun was empty--and used a rubber pistol for rehearsal!
It's not just the Amoror fault it's production. They failed to deal with the issues days before when the crew walked off set for that exact reason safety. Production ignored safety protocols.
Sure, and Baldwin goes free, even though he lied about the gun "going off" when he cocked it and didn't pull the trigger. Sad that the people who support Baldwin are the one;s that have absolutely no clue about firearm's.
Alec Could probably do a tour in a few years giving speeches and people would pay money to hear what he has to say, that is how sick some of the entertainment industry has become
RW killed his wife 40 years ago and has never been charged even though the autopsy showed she was beaten before falling into the water Hollywood privilege Roman Polanski raped a 13 year old and is still in hiding
@@latentsea obviously something needed to change. People incompetence needs to change. People not following protocol needed to change. Having real bullets on a movie set needed to change. Tf are you on
My question also, why are there real/live bullets on set. For whatever reason, I can only suspect a malicious intent from whoever is responsible for the guns or props. Bringing live bullets on set is already a setup for this kind of situation, Alec was just the fall guy who pulled the trigger, it could have been anyone on set.
It's amazing to me how someone was was murdered murdered accidentally on a supposedly controlled work site and no one has gon to jail for involuntary manslaughter unbelievable System we have
It's because it was clearly the armorer's innability to check the gun for live rounds. Nepotism in the industry, since her daddy was a "legendary armourer"
"168 videos released to the public" where exactly are all these videos released? all i can find are the same 10 second clips on random news articles and videos
The most heartbreaking thing is Halayna tragic death won't produce justice. I agree and said it from day one Alec should have shut up and not did one interview until the investigation was completely over. The remorse he has shown I don't think was for the loss, but for the fact he could have been in big trouble due to his and others negligence safety. As a producer he should be held accountable for her death and the lack of safety on that set. I pray her family sue the pants off him and the production. $136,000 is not enough for what happened which could have been avoided if they didn't ignore the first safety issues that happened a few before and the crew members walked off set.
It's a little more complex than that though. The armorer was experienced, Alec himself said she is the daughter of a very famous armorer in the business who had done this job for decades and passed his experience down to his daughter. Alec also said for the last 2 weeks nothing had gone wrong. What I am saying is, costs weren't cut in the armorer department, it was at standard. As for Halayna's justice, I have no doubt in my mind Alec will do what he can to make sure her family get her dues. It's true that Alec should have held silent during the interview, but there's a couple of things to note: Alec is in shock, he's trying to make sense of what happened, he doesn't want anyone to think he is trying to protect himself because it makes him instantly look suspicious; and he's simply trying to be helpful. I know the system eats people like that for lunch, but for some people, integrity comes first.
@@anam5099 If you believe that, then you know absolutely nothing about firearm's. Especially when Baldwin lied about the gun just "going off" without him pulling the trigger when it was cocked. That's not about profit, it's about justice. Baldwin should be charged, but he will get away with it.
And his police interrogation he says “when I shot her” and then he quickly corrects himself “when the gun went off” I don’t know boss, it just want bang bang.
These 'reporters' are so insensitive. Like nobody wants to hear news like it's hot gossip anymore god damn. And leave it to ET to get clowns to interview
Bingo. Doesn't matter if it was "supposed" to be cold. It's a REAL GUN. Anyone who is going to be holding a real firearm should very obviously be trained to always treat it as what it is. You never point it at someone else unless you mean to hit that target, and you absolutely ALWAYS make sure it's unloaded (yet still always treat it as if it's loaded), and if it's loaded, keep the damn safety on and make sure there isn't one in the chamber.
"Am I able to talk to them about pressing charges?" Bruh.. YOU are the director. Everyone was acting under YOUR literally direction. IF the person he wants to press charges on is Alec, then no he is absolutely wrong for that because Alec along with be rest of the actors are his responsibility. If he's talking about pressing charges on the Armorer, I agree she needs to be held responsible. She is very young and obviously very immature. Obviously too immature to have such an important job where you CAN NOT make mistakes. It's not a regular job where mistakes occasionally happen, that is the kind of job where you do not get to make mistakes. Every move you make has to be fully and clearly thought through and it is a necessity to take your time because it needs to be done right the first time. She should never have been in that position since she obviously could not handle it.
It was Alec's production company. He is ultimately responsible for everyone on set. The fact that he didn't fire the armory after the second misfire makes him even more culpable.
So then daunte wright should be responsible for kim potter accidently shooting him as he was the one who originally created the situation? Your argument is ridiculous. People are still responsible for themselves. This situation is deeper than one person being right over the other, both of them are at fault. “Mr. Baldwin knew that he could never point a firearm at crew members under any circumstances and had a duty of safety to his fellow crew members,” Gutierrez Reed
Funny how you ignore 1 he knew it was a real gun 2 he knew live rounds were being used in his gun the day before 3 he pulled back the hammer and pulled the trigger without checking the gun 4 So how come you cry about gun control and background checks but give guns to actors ?
Funny how you ignore the OSHA investigation and determination. Alec Baldwin's ill-fated movie "Rust" was hit Wednesday with the maximum possible fine by state safety officials in New Mexico for violations on the set that contributed to the death of Helyna Hutchins a cinematographer. A report released by the state Occupational Health and Safety Bureau blasted "Rust" producers for "plain indifference" and noted they "willfully violated" known industry safety protocols in imposing a nearly $137,000 fine for firearms safety failures. During a hasty rehearsal last October, actor and producer Baldwin discharged a replica Colt that killed 42-year-old Halyna Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza. In particular, the report indicates that the young armorer on the set, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, was not given the chance to perform her job. Reed was not in the church on the Old West set when the gun was handed to Baldwin and then went off. "Rust did not provide staff responsible for ensuring firearms safety with sufficient time to inspect ammunition received to ensure that no live rounds were present," the report said. The report can be found by Googling New Mexico.gov/oshbrustreport
Funny how people blame the armorer when the actor fire the said gun. You could say they both partially at fault not the only person. But who knows I'm just a person behind a computer screen typing away. Fyi you shoot a gun it is still your fault you are the one who shoot & kill & injure a person its your "Fault" or should I way partially your fault.
Aug 13th. FBI, Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger in fatal ‘Rust’ set shooting. The FBI forensic report concludes, the gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger.
@@latentsea what are u on about. why are u siding for the armourer when she literally proved my point. she don't look like an armourer! They manage weapons onsite they would be behave and dress more professional like most of them.
Spongebob, I was sticking up for you. Don’t pet leopards because they look scary and you’re probably gonna get scratched. and dont hire purple haired inexperienced armorers because they may not take life seriously enough for such a responsible position on set. Some leopards are friendly, some purple haired armorers are mature responsible adults. But I would hire the 30 year veteran, that keeps the tires on his truck inflated to proper psi, has everything in order, including his or her, appearance, and that does not joke around on set or pose like Yo! Was up?? But like, ya know, maybe I’m wrong.
I don't think this was an accident based on Alec Baldwin's past behaviours. He went off on his daughter on the phone and he also once said "I wonder what it's like to accidentally kill someone". He's never shown any signs of remorse from this incident and he's more concerned about himself and blames others every chance he gets. Everyone else in this video is showing remorse except for him, it's almost like he's not bothered by it or that he already knew this was going to happen because it was premeditated. Everyone on set said they thoroughly checked the guns and for some convenient reason a real bullet only appears in the hands of the last person to hold the gun, who is Alec Baldwin. I personally believe that Alec Baldwin has always been very angry and I think that quote in the past was a clear sign of what goes on in his head. I think he knew he could get away with killing someone on set and play it out to be an "accident". He knew he could get away with it by blaming the other people on set for not checking the gun and everyone's too scared to tell the truth about Alec being the only person possible for putting it in there. The people on set would be too scared to get blacklisted from the industry or get taken to court by a rich celebrity. Alec snuck a bullet in there knowing he could blame it on them so he could finally learn what it's like to kill someone. He saw the perfect opportunity on a western set where guns are everywhere and knew how easy it was to call it an accident. Please let me know if anyone else agrees.
Only one problem. The bullets that were live and yes there was several on set were all half power hand loads from the guy that reloads there blanks and also live rounds. The half loads was a special request for another movie set some time back that somehow got mixed in with dummy rounds.
I don't really agree on that. Maybe he's an angry person....maybe hes gone off at his family members and said some things in the past but thats not proof he intentionally would kill someone or did kill someone. The calmest person in the room has been guilty of murder so having an angry personality and saying shit in the past doesn't automatically mean hes guilty. He may not make him look great but doesnt mean hes not innocent. And, unfortunately, a similar incident like this has happened before with the tragic accident of Brendon lee where he was shot by a projictle lodged in a gun that wasn't checked correctly and was handed to a unsuspecting actor. The prop person was found responsible not the actor who fired the weapon. I dont see why an actor would produce a film and star it in only to intentionally shoot someone....to then have that production shut down so he can be investigated and it become public so he can what?...get away with murdering the cinematographer for...some reason...in front of witnesses. From what ive seen of his reaction...he seems very shaken and not happy at all. Take his reaction how you think but everyone reacts differently to death and nothing can prepare you for how you'll feel about. As far as him blaming others...seems more like hes acting lile it shouldn't of even happened tp begin with and in his time of dealing with firearms this has never happened to him. Youd be looking for answers and people responsible. Imagine if you were handed a gun as actor for a scene then you fired it thinking it wasn't a real gun it turns out it was and it hit someone....are you going to assume that it was your fault straight up or are you going to freak the fuck out and try to find out what happened.
Also, the armourer girl her self said that she should have checked the gun more thoroughly so right there is a red flag. It seems more like incompetence than a conspiracy to murder someone on a film set.
The main people responsible are the armorer, the person who hired the armorer, and those who are in charge of the movie. A movie shouldn't be made if you can't afford the proper safety and profesional requirements.
I only have three questions; 1. How did a live round get into that gun? 2. Were live rounds mixed with prop rounds on the set? 3. Why were live rounds even on the set? Some actors are given gun safety training. Some are not. It is not usually up to the individual actor to check a gun because the action of rolling a revolver barrel might mix a dummy round used to show rounds in the chamber might get mixed with a flash, smoke, or other type of prop round. Sometimes the actor is a child, or even an animal. Sometimes actors are afraid of guns. The system is simple. The arms expert is required to directly hand any actor the gun and say “hot gun”, or “cold gun”. That did not occur in this case. So who is wrong?
The guy that supplied the armorer the guns and dummy rounds didn't check the box after it came back from another set. Evidently they had some half powder live loads made up for that set. several of those live rounds were mixed back in the box of dummy rounds. She somehow didn't shake that round to make sure it was a dummy. She most likely put the round she checked down when she had to brush out one cylinder and then picked up by mistake a different round than she had checked. Dave then was presented then gun to double check and he said he see 3 dummy rounds, Never checked the other 3. He just gave it a quick half visual inspection and missed the live round.
Was it one bullet? So it hit her in the shoulder and exited the other shoulder AND then hit the director in his shoulder? She never had a chance with a trajectory like that.
Everyone here blaming everyone but the person who fired the round. IDC how many times someone tells you a firearm is empty. You ALWAYS double check. Anyone who has ever properly handled a firearm knows this. You assume every firearm is loaded until double checked. NEVER take ANYONE'S word when you're dealing with other people's lives. It's 100% his fault. He should know better and should def get whatever is coming to him for being so careless. Yes, i know they're using blanks but you still HAVE to check.
i thought she was some teenager they put in charge of the guns. Honestly, she was too young and inexperienced to be in charge of the weapons. Why don't they hire like an ex special forces guy or something. Like one of the crew members said, the armorers are children
They usually do, and certainly used to back in the day, but since the pc generation of the past 10-15 years started, politically correct hiring practices for diversity have put a lot of unqualified people into jobs they have no business doing.
This whole incident was unfortunate..I've heard news about it here and there but never delved too deep into it..but I agree with the PI who stated that it's too early to release these body cam footage since the case is still ongoing..I watched a few of them before this video and thought the same exact thing
Everyone in the chain of custody should be criminally charged, including Alec Baldwin. All failed in their duties and did not follow the basic gun safety protocols. You are not excused from your obligation because someone else also was negligent.
You don't tell children to follow basic gun safety protocols when handling toy water guns any more than you should have told Alec Baldwin, whose duty was to ACT as an ACTOR with a pre-checked unloaded firearm-not be a firearm specialist. While practicing those protocols could have prevented this from happening, that loaded gun should have NEVER been in the actor's hands in the first place and even if he didn't shoot it then it would most likely have been unfortunately used to shoot later. The guilty conscience that stems from the realization that Baldwin has taken a life, even if unintended, should be more than enough of a consequence for him. Hopefully this incident shows that people working in such fields should NOT trust people to do their jobs and check and/or test possible deadly weapons themselves personally in the off-chance this were to be repeated.
@@01nagni This is not comparable to children and water guns. This is about an adult who did not practice gun safety, which resulted in an injury and death. Gun safety is not excused because you are an actor. In fact in the actors Firearms Safety Guide it says: "Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly". Feeling bad for a result based on a persons actions is not what the law is about. Most people who drive drunk and kill someone feel bad, but it does not excuse the behavior. Ignoring and/or not knowing gun safety is not an valid excuse for improperly handling a firearm. The act and result speak for themselves.
im sorry but no....the only one that should be fined and charged is the armoror....no one else....alec was acting doing his job, it was not his job to double triple check shit that is suppose to be safe and checked by the armorer before hand....you wouldnt charge a 5 year old for dropping a toaster in the bathtub where u r bathign after watching his father plug it in and hand it to him....the kid "alec" did nothign wrong he just did what he was told to do....its the father "armoror" who is in the wrong here
@@Scypher0th Gun Safety 101: Treat all guns as if they are loaded and never point a gun at anything you do not intend to shoot. Two simple rules that were not followed by Alec. If he had only followed one of them, the resulting death/injury would have been avoided. The Actors Firearms Safety Guide states: "Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly". This is Actor specific, which Alec should be aware of and follow, as he is an Actor. Here is what Arizona Law States: AZ SS 13-1102 A. A person commits negligent homicide if with criminal negligence the person causes the death of another person, including an unborn child. The legal definition of "Criminal negligence" in Arizona is given in AZ SS 13-105-10 (d) "Criminal negligence" means, with respect to a result or to a circumstance described by a statute defining an offense, that a person fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the result will occur or that the circumstance exists. The risk must be of such nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the situation. If your logic were to apply, a bad armorer could issue 20 loaded guns on set, nobody would need to check them, and 20 people could be killed/injured and only the armorer could be charged. Alec ignored basic gun safety, the Actors Firearms Safety Guide, and was in violation of Arizona law, which resulted in a death and injury. Perhaps his attorney will use your defense and argue that Alec is a 5 year old with a toaster.
Except for it was the actors responsibility to check the gun. It was the Armorer and Dave who was in charge of safety to check the gun and make sure it was safe. Both failed and missed a live round getting in that was mixed in with the dummy rounds box.
I heard they routinely transferred the armory girl to a different department of the production after lunch, so she was no longer supervising the arms and ammo then. Somebody else was, after lunch. And the video inside the church set clearly shows that AB put his finger on the trigger both times he drew the weapon. He rapidly drew, then put his finger on the trigger, then pointed at camera crew members. It is extremely easy to pull the trigger when you are quick-drawing and trigger-touching and aiming pretty much all at the same time. He might not have intended to press the trigger, but trigger rearward movement only needs to be about 0.5-0.75 inches/12-19 mm.
Even if the armorer was negligent in her duties, it was also up to Baldwin to check the gun before using it. He was the final line of defense against a live round shooting out of the gun and he failed.
A tragic event that has affected many people. When it comes to guns, always assume they're loaded until you check it yourself. tragic event for everybody involved
Why even need an "armorer" in the first place on a film set? In what circumstance would a live round be required for a movie set? Someone in this situation killed a person on purpose. I think they are all in on it.
The Armourer will be charged but so will the production company. She should never have had to split her duties between wrangling weapons and dealing with on set props. The production company violated safety protocols.
@@nicholasmelby5361 are you the dumb one, the actor is literally the one that is going to be on set & is supposed to have everything ready for him he doesn't have the responsibility to do anything other than act, she was supposed to check the gun to make sure no live rounds were in the gun and the live rounds are very different from blanks so that was definitely her fault
It is also the actor job to check if it is a loaded. They take courses about gun safety. Your still accountable cause you point & shoot! Also they should have bulletproof vest in this kind of movies.
This was a Tragic accident. But you know people are going after Baldwin in such a mean way. Yes, you could say Baldwin is arrogant, but he seems to actually be a really decent person and he's a pretty good actor.People need to lay off the hatred for him, I don't think he deserves all of this horrible treatment. I doubt Ms Hutchin's would approve !
As soon as they interviewed the armorer I rolled my eyes.
i thought i was the only one
This is what happens in this pc generation, 'ethical diversity' hiring practices taking precedent over hiring the person with the most experience/skill.
@@greatunz67 indeed. she didnt look like she would kneww the name of the guns that was used even. she looks to me like one of those that would demonstrate against gun rights
Seriously! She literally said she should have checked the gun more .... YOU THINK!!!!
@@greatunz67 Well her dad apparently is a "legendary armorer" which is why she got the job. She definitely had no excuse not knowing what to do.
Shocking. That armorer looks like an incredibly responsible person that everyone should feel safe putting their life in her hands
How many years was she sentenced?
@@itsnophun Hannah Reed, armorer, did nothing wrong.
@@sergeantmasson3669 why are people trying to frame her then?
@@itsnophun she was supposed to Handle the gun and she didn’t make sure the bullets where fake
@@user-hq3bn8dr7m I heard that she was the one who brought the real bullets to the set? All the guns and bullets on set was props
NO lawsuit or any amount of money can fix this, and that ending about the son just breaks you to hear. God bless to all involved. Heartbreaking
this ole boy needs hard time....
A perfect hit?
Aug 13th. FBI, Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger in fatal ‘Rust’ set shooting. The FBI forensic report concludes, the gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger.
@@satguy reminds me of the movie “The Right Stuff” where that one guy opened the hatch prematurely but was arguing it went off by itself and the scientists were like, nahh cant happen
i personally believe that the armorer should be charged, it’s the armorers job to check the weapons before being used
according to some reports the armorer wasn't even notified that they were using the gun, the scene was apperently inpromtu
Every single person who touches a gun has the job to check it. This is the most basic firearms safety rule there is. Even if you saw the armorer check it just a minute ago before giving it to you, your first job is to check it again. If this safety rule had been properly followed, no one would have died.
@@mattisony oh, well if that’s true, then that changes my thoughts
let's see what the facts are first before you make that determination prematurely, she may not have been present or notified that the gun was supposed to be used. The AD was the one who handed the gun to Alec. Why not charge him? He was the one who could have also looked inside the gun chamber to make sure there were only dummy rounds. The armorer isn't the only one to blame here, each and every person who was in charge in running this operation from bottom to top had some accountability in this, and that also includes Halyna, may she RIP.
@@Catrik Oh so now you have witnesses who say the guy who fired the gun was seen opening the chamber and fiddling with it moments before it killed someone?
I'm sorry. But NO ONE but the professional should be opening and/or fiddling with the guns on a movie set. They cannot expect actors to know what to look for.
The armorer looks like a teenager!! Who would EVER trust or hire her for this?!
EXACTLY
Her father is an armorer in the film industry. She got her job because of his connections. A good portion of the jobs in the entertainment industry are based on who you know.
@@wrayven she also got it due to the 'ethical diversity' hiring practices that have been pushed by the liberal pc generation so much in the last 10-15 years.
@@greatunz67 She got the job because of nepotism. Get a grip. I bet her father Thell Reed has a bunch of contacts among independent filmmakers and asked one of them to give his daughter a try. Here is a clip of him talking about working on Django Unchained:
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I SAID THAT SPECIALLY TAKING SELFIES WITH GUNS!!!
If i was at a range , and that girl was presented as the armorer , I dont think id feel safe.. She seems half baked.
B movies get D level crew
Fully baked, stupid and sloppy
If anyone's gonna be charged, I'm pretty confident that the Armorer will be the one in hot water. She loaded the gun and was suspose to check, double check even triple check it and She was obviously careless and I think that the guy in the hat and black that was always by her side distracted her or something, they seem like a couple by the way he was following her around and comforting her. I just feel like she was distracted somehow, because it's a SIMPLE task that she had to do and for the time she had to make sure Alec had a cold gun, there should be no reason for that to have happened. I think she's not being 100% truthful and who sits in a police car like that, she really think she's special, after all....daddy got her the job, way to go dad! This is why these careers require a degree but in the film industry, I guess you just gotta know someone that's got a foot in the door....sad, totally preventable. It just makes me sick that she was more worried about her job rather than the two people that were shot due to her carelessness! Sending prayers out to Halayna and her family 🙏.
Pretty sure pulling the trigger did it
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Alec Baldwin shot her, not the armourer.
He should have checked the gun.
@@curtisbrown5939 Exactly
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@@curtisbrown5939 Hello Mcfly!....it's not his JOB to check the gun, He's an Actor, not an armorer, Hentz....That's the whole reason they have an "Armorer" on movie sets and have schools for it, because IT'S THERE JOB to make sure they're loading the proper casings into the gun, it's the ONE THING she had to do....and again... cause I don't think it's getting across to you....ITS HER JOB! That's why she was hired!! Not to stand around saying she's an armorer....but to load and unload the guns with thee proper bullet's....🤦. All she had to do was look and make sure it had a hole in the casing, why she missed that is beyond me.... stupidity is my guess, seeing that it's like a plague these days.
@@michaeljo9820 What ain't getting through to you is the simple fact that Alec Baldwin shot and killed a woman.
He never learned of her death on set like they suggested in this video by splicing him in learning of the entry points and then the voice-over saying that this is when he learned of her death. Shady reporting.
He didn't find out until the last minute of his over hour long interview with detectives hours later.
It was a very surreal moment. Check that out. He helped them out as much as he could for an hour and at the end of the interview they told him and he shut up really quickly.
He was unnkowingly in shock but also knew he was in trouble at the same time in that moment.
it was some of the most obvious acting, both in this interview and with the police
@@iceswallow7717 either way I'll say again, my original statement stands.
Acting or not acting, guilty or not guilty:
He didn't know she died until the end of the interview. There would be no way he could.
@@agitatedmongoose they told him the bullet went across her entire body. And who cares when he figured out she died why the fuck was it pointed at her anyway
Yep the armorer for sure looks like she is well trained and knowledgeable about weapons, definitely a super responsible person💀.
Oh my god that armorer is too much
I just can't imagine why the gun would be loaded with live ammo to begin with! Why was there a real bullet anywhere near the prop gun?!
yup someone's looking for a pay day
It shouldn't have had any ammo in it. It was a rehearsal.
HOWEVER, the ammo wouldn't have caused a problem if Alec hadn't :
cocked the hammer,
pointed the gun at his victim,
and pulled the trigger!
Script supervisor said there was NO call for cocking the hammer or shooting the gun in that scene!
@@kmeccat doesnt matter, at all. WHether or not he was supposed to shoot the gun in thee scene doesnt matter at all. Actors improvise all the time and there is absolutley no reason a real bullet should be loaded into the prop.
@@kmeccat LOL, Another way off base. It's a single action revolver and he was drawing the gun to show 2 guns in the seen. The hammer has to be cocked on the draw. The gun should have been safe to do that.
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Very bad accident that shouldn't have never happened God bless her soul may she rest in peace
His career is shot
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it was most certainly NOT an accident. it was a chain of negligence ending with alec baldwin.
Why is everyone blaming Alec Baldwin?!! HE'S an actor! It's not he's job to check whether the gun is loaded it not! That's the armorer's job
she got killed....what peace do you think she has?
@@Lala_Delrei Yes, it is his responsibility to check the gun. That's if you know anything about firearm's safety, which you do not. Do you also believe Baldwin when he said he didn't pull the trigger and that the gun just "went off" when he cocked it? Impossible with a single action old west firearm.
The saddest thing about this - after the death, of course - is that the lessons learned won't stick.
as long as guns are use in movies it will all ways happen sometimes mostly the Armours fault not the acters not there job....unless u want some crap CGI gun sounds and flashes lol
No lessons were really learned they’re already in place. On a similar note driving to sat is more dangerous in that case lessons were learned Megans law
Unfortunately something like this will happen again. They cry about change and safety and nothing will ever change.
I would not expect them to hire someone so young and not really that sophisticated to handle guns and weaponry
They hired her because of “THE MESSAGE”
Who cares if not the right person is hired.... as long as the libs are happy.
Age has nothing to do with it. I know 14 year olds with more gun safety then her. It boils down to inexperienced
She seems like she's loaded with dim intelligence. She seemed NOT confident in her own role.
@@imanoldurango8213 man gtfoh
No doubt that the armorer is responsible and should be held accountable with jail time.
If it were me to feel comfortable I would ALWAYS check the gun.
Exactly
Here is his defense
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@@thesoftballer16 Please share the video
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The hiring of a budget armorer who behaved unprofessionally in the presence of the Executive Producer is the fault of the Executive Producer.
moreso in this case it's the fault of politically correct "diversity hiring practices"
@@greatunz67 No it's not, stop lying and making up bullshit based on your emotions you crybaby
her daddy was a famous armourer, so she got the job. It's nepotism, always has been since forever.
What a Preventable Tragedy!! Who was minding the the inexperienced with the Killer Props? Why were they even Hired? Too inexperienced, Someone needs to Answer for this!! That poor Family! 😢
Alec to blame
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Unprevantable
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If the actor skip gun safety class, yes unpreventable. But probably both at fault who know?
Her dad is a famous armorer in the industry is why she got the job. She has been on set with her dad so she knows the protocols ... it is simply and complete neglect on her part.
Someone needs to be held accountable for what took place. Why would there EVER be a “real” bullet on a set?
Exactly, and that live round didn't get into the gun by itself, somebody put it there either accidentally or deliberately.
Why the fuck is live ammo on set anyway.
Right?????
There are some rumors from the people who were on set that she (the armorer) was "playing" with the gun in off time shooting targets with it.
@@jeremycovelli so dumb
Or planted? But that's my theory. They also said the there is a couple who distract the armourer. Maybe they need to investigate them too. Also why is the person with her didn't check her work?
@@jeremycovelli If that is true, then couldn’t she had just warn him that there was a live round in the gun before he was gonna use it, and that she forgot to remove the bullet while she was “playing” with it?
Most People don't seem to Understand, Alec is an actor his job is to act. He was given a gun which was suppose to be unloaded by the armorer who was supposed to check the gun's condition beforehand. It's not Alec's job to check the gun. In conclusion, the armorer is responsible for that, It's her job to double check every weapon props used on set. What's worse she don't really seem to care judging from her reaction.
Standard protocol was Not followed by the Actor. Alec knows better. Check the gun. Don’t aim it anyone. Have safety glass if you must aim gun at camera. Use a fake gun for rehearsal. Standard.
it LITERALLY is everyones job to check the gun. Every single person who touches a gun, must check if it's in the condition that it's supposed to be (unloaded, or loaded with correct type ammo. Blanks or fakes, but almost never real ammo in filming). Trying to say anything else just means you do not understand even the most basic firearms safety.
Everyone including Alec and even the victim deserve a blame for such a sloppy set.
@@latentsea Yup, you're right about that, however, Alec is an actor and not a regular gun owner, he might've been focused on the act rather than the gun. And that's the reason why there are armorers, because these actors has higher probability if forgetting the sop's of handling a gun, or they could be complacent that the gun is safe because they have armorers. Anyway, the armorer is quite suspicious having 3 incidents of loaded gun during the set. Either she is dumb or she's doing it on ourpose. 1 time is enough for a person to learn from the experience but 3 times? it is wuite unusual.
This armorer is an immature, inexperienced young girl. They should never have hired her.
Alec has been in many movies involving weapons and KNOWS weapons safety protocol. He chose to ignore ALL safety protocol.
Guaranteed if the scene called for him to attempt suicide by pointing the gun at his head and pulling the trigger, he'd have TRIPLE checked that the gun was empty--and used a rubber pistol for rehearsal!
Clearly it’s the armorors fault, she should go to jail.
I couldn't agree more. And the director.
It's not just the Amoror fault it's production. They failed to deal with the issues days before when the crew walked off set for that exact reason safety. Production ignored safety protocols.
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I thought I heard she was at lunch when he got the gun?
Sure, and Baldwin goes free, even though he lied about the gun "going off" when he cocked it and didn't pull the trigger. Sad that the people who support Baldwin are the one;s that have absolutely no clue about firearm's.
Alec will definitely be retiring from Hollywood after this mess. RIP to the victim
Alec Could probably do a tour in a few years giving speeches and people would pay money to hear what he has to say, that is how sick some of the entertainment industry has become
I don’t understand why no one has been charged yet, and why are there real bullets in guns on movie sets to begin? Shouldn’t they all be blanks?!?!
RW killed his wife 40 years ago and has never been charged even though the autopsy showed she was beaten before falling into the water
Hollywood privilege
Roman Polanski raped a 13 year old and is still in hiding
Before the gun was handed to Baldwin it should have checked to make sure the gun wasn't loaded. There needs to be a rule instated.
There are already many safety protocols. There were not followed. Nothing needs to change, just follow existing protocols
@@latentsea obviously something needed to change. People incompetence needs to change. People not following protocol needed to change. Having real bullets on a movie set needed to change. Tf are you on
My question also, why are there real/live bullets on set. For whatever reason, I can only suspect a malicious intent from whoever is responsible for the guns or props. Bringing live bullets on set is already a setup for this kind of situation, Alec was just the fall guy who pulled the trigger, it could have been anyone on set.
Why is even real guns or bullets anywhere near the movie scene in the first place???
It's amazing to me how someone was was murdered murdered accidentally on a supposedly controlled work site and no one has gon to jail for involuntary manslaughter unbelievable System we have
It's because it was clearly the armorer's innability to check the gun for live rounds. Nepotism in the industry, since her daddy was a "legendary armourer"
same thing happened in Ireland in the 80’s when Matthew Broderick killed someone while driving drunk. let him go
"168 videos released to the public" where exactly are all these videos released? all i can find are the same 10 second clips on random news articles and videos
Why is there real bullets in the first place? I don't understand that
The most heartbreaking thing is Halayna tragic death won't produce justice.
I agree and said it from day one Alec should have shut up and not did one interview until the investigation was completely over.
The remorse he has shown I don't think was for the loss, but for the fact he could have been in big trouble due to his and others negligence safety.
As a producer he should be held accountable for her death and the lack of safety on that set.
I pray her family sue the pants off him and the production. $136,000 is not enough for what happened which could have been avoided if they didn't ignore the first safety issues that happened a few before and the crew members walked off set.
It's a little more complex than that though. The armorer was experienced, Alec himself said she is the daughter of a very famous armorer in the business who had done this job for decades and passed his experience down to his daughter. Alec also said for the last 2 weeks nothing had gone wrong. What I am saying is, costs weren't cut in the armorer department, it was at standard. As for Halayna's justice, I have no doubt in my mind Alec will do what he can to make sure her family get her dues. It's true that Alec should have held silent during the interview, but there's a couple of things to note: Alec is in shock, he's trying to make sense of what happened, he doesn't want anyone to think he is trying to protect himself because it makes him instantly look suspicious; and he's simply trying to be helpful. I know the system eats people like that for lunch, but for some people, integrity comes first.
His career is shot no matter what happens This will haunt him forever
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Alec should absolutely NOT be charged for this. People like you only think about how to profit from a death.
@@anam5099 I agree with you
@@anam5099 If you believe that, then you know absolutely nothing about firearm's. Especially when Baldwin lied about the gun just "going off" without him pulling the trigger when it was cocked. That's not about profit, it's about justice. Baldwin should be charged, but he will get away with it.
There shouldn't be LIVE ROUNDS on set AT ALL.
The wheels of justice turn very slowly when there are rich and influential people involved, sad but true !
Alec Baldwin is not to blame here, it's that green-haired twats fault.
Someone could have slipped a bullet into the chamber, knowing the armorer and/or Baldwin would take the fall. How did the bullet get in there?
"The gun went off". He has never admitted he pulled the trigger.
And his police interrogation he says “when I shot her” and then he quickly corrects himself “when the gun went off” I don’t know boss, it just want bang bang.
He absolutely does in the long form interrogation video
These 'reporters' are so insensitive. Like nobody wants to hear news like it's hot gossip anymore god damn. And leave it to ET to get clowns to interview
2:00 "I'm the armorer - or at least I was."
She's more concerned about her job than about the condition of Halyna
Should be in prison.
People this is why, you always check to see, if a gun is unloaded every time you are given one by someone else. It's not rocket science people.
Amen!
Bingo. Doesn't matter if it was "supposed" to be cold. It's a REAL GUN. Anyone who is going to be holding a real firearm should very obviously be trained to always treat it as what it is. You never point it at someone else unless you mean to hit that target, and you absolutely ALWAYS make sure it's unloaded (yet still always treat it as if it's loaded), and if it's loaded, keep the damn safety on and make sure there isn't one in the chamber.
How is that 'armorer' even allowed to hold a job to begin with, nevermind something such as this.
Everyone involved should be at fault, especially the producers. I'd be sueing big time!!!
"Am I able to talk to them about pressing charges?" Bruh.. YOU are the director. Everyone was acting under YOUR literally direction. IF the person he wants to press charges on is Alec, then no he is absolutely wrong for that because Alec along with be rest of the actors are his responsibility. If he's talking about pressing charges on the Armorer, I agree she needs to be held responsible. She is very young and obviously very immature. Obviously too immature to have such an important job where you CAN NOT make mistakes. It's not a regular job where mistakes occasionally happen, that is the kind of job where you do not get to make mistakes. Every move you make has to be fully and clearly thought through and it is a necessity to take your time because it needs to be done right the first time. She should never have been in that position since she obviously could not handle it.
It was Alec's production company. He is ultimately responsible for everyone on set. The fact that he didn't fire the armory after the second misfire makes him even more culpable.
Agreed. Armorer is waaaay too young and immature to be handling lethal weapons. It was negligent to skimp on safety
So then daunte wright should be responsible for kim potter accidently shooting him as he was the one who originally created the situation? Your argument is ridiculous. People are still responsible for themselves. This situation is deeper than one person being right over the other, both of them are at fault. “Mr. Baldwin knew that he could never point a firearm at crew members under any circumstances and had a duty of safety to his fellow crew members,” Gutierrez Reed
when they showed the armorer for the first time i immediately thought: yep it all makes sense now
It's so funny how you don't see anyone mention armorers until something like this happens and they suddenly become all knowledge about the topic
This is what you get when your system prioritizes diversity over whether or not they're qualified.
why are live rounds on set at all?
A free thinking republican would’ve been sentenced already to imprisonment for just his political views from the same actions
the "armourer" hair colours say it all..
Her hair says nothing except about her personal style choices.
@@GH-oi2jf she's kinda responsible for someone's death too....
There should never have been any live ammunition on that movie set!
Funny how people are blaming everyone other than the armorer
Funny how you ignore
1 he knew it was a real gun
2 he knew live rounds were being used in his gun the day before
3 he pulled back the hammer and pulled the trigger without checking the gun
4 So how come you cry about gun control and background checks but give guns to actors ?
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Funny how you ignore the OSHA investigation and determination. Alec Baldwin's ill-fated movie "Rust" was hit Wednesday with the maximum possible fine by state safety officials in New Mexico for violations on the set that contributed to the death of Helyna Hutchins a cinematographer.
A report released by the state Occupational Health and Safety Bureau blasted "Rust" producers for "plain indifference" and noted they "willfully violated" known industry safety protocols in imposing a nearly $137,000 fine for firearms safety failures. During a hasty rehearsal last October, actor and producer Baldwin discharged a replica Colt that killed 42-year-old Halyna Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza.
In particular, the report indicates that the young armorer on the set, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, was not given the chance to perform her job. Reed was not in the church on the Old West set when the gun was handed to Baldwin and then went off.
"Rust did not provide staff responsible for ensuring firearms safety with sufficient time to inspect ammunition received to ensure that no live rounds were present," the report said.
The report can be found by Googling New Mexico.gov/oshbrustreport
or baldwin
Funny how people blame the armorer when the actor fire the said gun. You could say they both partially at fault not the only person. But who knows I'm just a person behind a computer screen typing away.
Fyi you shoot a gun it is still your fault you are the one who shoot & kill & injure a person its your "Fault" or should I way partially your fault.
The armorer seemed not to care at all! like wow
It could just be a reaction, kinda like shock. That being said with her evident inexperience with firearms she should not have had that job,
Why isn't Alec facing charges for negligent homicide atleast?!
Actors are generally not responsible for arms safety on set. They should never be responsible for gun safety.
Why is there even LIVE bullet on set???
I’m so sorry, Andrew.
So sad for her son
Aug 13th. FBI, Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger in fatal ‘Rust’ set shooting. The FBI forensic report concludes, the gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger.
The armorer has some heat with that camera
Man
she doesnt even look like an amourer
Judging by the cover. Huh!
Would you pet a leopard? Or a a racist animal hater judging by the exterior looks ?
@@monrey5698 thats ironic because she sucked at her job as well so my judging by the cover was right.
@@latentsea what are u on about. why are u siding for the armourer when she literally proved my point. she don't look like an armourer! They manage weapons onsite they would be behave and dress more professional like most of them.
Spongebob, I was sticking up for you. Don’t pet leopards because they look scary and you’re probably gonna get scratched. and dont hire purple haired inexperienced armorers because they may not take life seriously enough for such a responsible position on set. Some leopards are friendly, some purple haired armorers are mature responsible adults. But I would hire the 30 year veteran, that keeps the tires on his truck inflated to proper psi, has everything in order, including his or her, appearance, and that does not joke around on set or pose like Yo! Was up?? But like, ya know, maybe I’m wrong.
A young female armorer, that explains it.
How in the FUCK does this happen. The negligence is incomprehensible..
I don't think this was an accident based on Alec Baldwin's past behaviours. He went off on his daughter on the phone and he also once said "I wonder what it's like to accidentally kill someone". He's never shown any signs of remorse from this incident and he's more concerned about himself and blames others every chance he gets. Everyone else in this video is showing remorse except for him, it's almost like he's not bothered by it or that he already knew this was going to happen because it was premeditated. Everyone on set said they thoroughly checked the guns and for some convenient reason a real bullet only appears in the hands of the last person to hold the gun, who is Alec Baldwin. I personally believe that Alec Baldwin has always been very angry and I think that quote in the past was a clear sign of what goes on in his head. I think he knew he could get away with killing someone on set and play it out to be an "accident". He knew he could get away with it by blaming the other people on set for not checking the gun and everyone's too scared to tell the truth about Alec being the only person possible for putting it in there. The people on set would be too scared to get blacklisted from the industry or get taken to court by a rich celebrity. Alec snuck a bullet in there knowing he could blame it on them so he could finally learn what it's like to kill someone. He saw the perfect opportunity on a western set where guns are everywhere and knew how easy it was to call it an accident. Please let me know if anyone else agrees.
Only one problem. The bullets that were live and yes there was several on set were all half power hand loads from the guy that reloads there blanks and also live rounds. The half loads was a special request for another movie set some time back that somehow got mixed in with dummy rounds.
I don't really agree on that. Maybe he's an angry person....maybe hes gone off at his family members and said some things in the past but thats not proof he intentionally would kill someone or did kill someone. The calmest person in the room has been guilty of murder so having an angry personality and saying shit in the past doesn't automatically mean hes guilty. He may not make him look great but doesnt mean hes not innocent.
And, unfortunately, a similar incident like this has happened before with the tragic accident of Brendon lee where he was shot by a projictle lodged in a gun that wasn't checked correctly and was handed to a unsuspecting actor. The prop person was found responsible not the actor who fired the weapon.
I dont see why an actor would produce a film and star it in only to intentionally shoot someone....to then have that production shut down so he can be investigated and it become public so he can what?...get away with murdering the cinematographer for...some reason...in front of witnesses.
From what ive seen of his reaction...he seems very shaken and not happy at all. Take his reaction how you think but everyone reacts differently to death and nothing can prepare you for how you'll feel about. As far as him blaming others...seems more like hes acting lile it shouldn't of even happened tp begin with and in his time of dealing with firearms this has never happened to him. Youd be looking for answers and people responsible. Imagine if you were handed a gun as actor for a scene then you fired it thinking it wasn't a real gun it turns out it was and it hit someone....are you going to assume that it was your fault straight up or are you going to freak the fuck out and try to find out what happened.
Also, the armourer girl her self said that she should have checked the gun more thoroughly so right there is a red flag.
It seems more like incompetence than a conspiracy to murder someone on a film set.
He looks like my dirtball neighbor who stole something, denies it, then attacks you for catching him do it.
Title is crazy wild
Y didn't they have a professional checking all the guns not a hair died 24 year old that probably has no idea how to handle a gun 🤔 😕
So he did have his finger on the trigger
What a coincidence. A live bullet, on a film set, in a prop revolver, that has been checked, loaded into that exact chamber.
Jus because your FATHER was an armorer does NOT mean you should take his place lolololol
Armorer looks like she doesnt know what a gun is..
And Alex looks like he doesn't know what trigger discipline is.
Just what you would expect from anti-gun activists.
The main people responsible are the armorer, the person who hired the armorer, and those who are in charge of the movie. A movie shouldn't be made if you can't afford the proper safety and profesional requirements.
Spot on and I have to also add, if I was given any gun, I would check it myself
I only have three questions;
1. How did a live round get into that gun?
2. Were live rounds mixed with prop rounds on the set?
3. Why were live rounds even on the set?
Some actors are given gun safety training. Some are not. It is not usually up to the individual actor to check a gun because the action of rolling a revolver barrel might mix a dummy round used to show rounds in the chamber might get mixed with a flash, smoke, or other type of prop round. Sometimes the actor is a child, or even an animal. Sometimes actors are afraid of guns.
The system is simple. The arms expert is required to directly hand any actor the gun and say “hot gun”, or “cold gun”. That did not occur in this case.
So who is wrong?
Alec Baldwin should be charged, because he shouldve checked the cylinder first, NOT AIM IT AT PEOPLE, and not pull the damn trigger.
@@IsraelGovermentOfficial Actors are not supposed to check the gun, or roll the barrel on most film sets with guns. That is the job of the expert.
The guy that supplied the armorer the guns and dummy rounds didn't check the box after it came back from another set. Evidently they had some half powder live loads made up for that set. several of those live rounds were mixed back in the box of dummy rounds. She somehow didn't shake that round to make sure it was a dummy. She most likely put the round she checked down when she had to brush out one cylinder and then picked up by mistake a different round than she had checked. Dave then was presented then gun to double check and he said he see 3 dummy rounds, Never checked the other 3. He just gave it a quick half visual inspection and missed the live round.
Why was this necessary to show?
Entertainment is very necessary.
Alec is powerful and his team put pressure to put it out . So now thee less chance of criminal charges because jury has been corrupted
Hollywood, and liberals in general, don’t take fire arm education seriously. This was an easily avoidable situation.
Not at all true. I know many liberals at our firing range. They take gun safety dead serious.
Alec has done nothing but lie and cover his ass from the start. He was holding the gun and it was his movie set. No respect for this guy, none.
Was it one bullet? So it hit her in the shoulder and exited the other shoulder AND then hit the director in his shoulder? She never had a chance with a trajectory like that.
Everyone here blaming everyone but the person who fired the round. IDC how many times someone tells you a firearm is empty. You ALWAYS double check. Anyone who has ever properly handled a firearm knows this. You assume every firearm is loaded until double checked. NEVER take ANYONE'S word when you're dealing with other people's lives. It's 100% his fault. He should know better and should def get whatever is coming to him for being so careless. Yes, i know they're using blanks but you still HAVE to check.
i thought she was some teenager they put in charge of the guns. Honestly, she was too young and inexperienced to be in charge of the weapons. Why don't they hire like an ex special forces guy or something. Like one of the crew members said, the armorers are children
They usually do, and certainly used to back in the day, but since the pc generation of the past 10-15 years started, politically correct hiring practices for diversity have put a lot of unqualified people into jobs they have no business doing.
She got paid dirt for her work so it's not surprising they went cheapest
Bro she’s 21! The fuck
The armorer doesn’t seem distraught. She seems BORED. Like she could not care less about killing someone trough her neglectance.
Lots of legal prescriptions to keep her anxiety at bay . Makes you kinda flat..
This whole incident was unfortunate..I've heard news about it here and there but never delved too deep into it..but I agree with the PI who stated that it's too early to release these body cam footage since the case is still ongoing..I watched a few of them before this video and thought the same exact thing
Crew-members walked off of the job due to severe reckless use of the guns
Never trust someone with multicoloured hair
Everyone in the chain of custody should be criminally charged, including Alec Baldwin. All failed in their duties and did not follow the basic gun safety protocols. You are not excused from your obligation because someone else also was negligent.
You don't tell children to follow basic gun safety protocols when handling toy water guns any more than you should have told Alec Baldwin, whose duty was to ACT as an ACTOR with a pre-checked unloaded firearm-not be a firearm specialist. While practicing those protocols could have prevented this from happening, that loaded gun should have NEVER been in the actor's hands in the first place and even if he didn't shoot it then it would most likely have been unfortunately used to shoot later. The guilty conscience that stems from the realization that Baldwin has taken a life, even if unintended, should be more than enough of a consequence for him.
Hopefully this incident shows that people working in such fields should NOT trust people to do their jobs and check and/or test possible deadly weapons themselves personally in the off-chance this were to be repeated.
@@01nagni This is not comparable to children and water guns. This is about an adult who did not practice gun safety, which resulted in an injury and death. Gun safety is not excused because you are an actor. In fact in the actors Firearms Safety Guide it says: "Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly". Feeling bad for a result based on a persons actions is not what the law is about. Most people who drive drunk and kill someone feel bad, but it does not excuse the behavior. Ignoring and/or not knowing gun safety is not an valid excuse for improperly handling a firearm. The act and result speak for themselves.
im sorry but no....the only one that should be fined and charged is the armoror....no one else....alec was acting doing his job, it was not his job to double triple check shit that is suppose to be safe and checked by the armorer before hand....you wouldnt charge a 5 year old for dropping a toaster in the bathtub where u r bathign after watching his father plug it in and hand it to him....the kid "alec" did nothign wrong he just did what he was told to do....its the father "armoror" who is in the wrong here
@@Scypher0th Gun Safety 101: Treat all guns as if they are loaded and never point a gun at anything you do not intend to shoot. Two simple rules that were not followed by Alec. If he had only followed one of them, the resulting death/injury would have been avoided.
The Actors Firearms Safety Guide states: "Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly". This is Actor specific, which Alec should be aware of and follow, as he is an Actor.
Here is what Arizona Law States:
AZ SS 13-1102 A. A person commits negligent homicide if with criminal negligence the person causes the death of another person, including an unborn child.
The legal definition of "Criminal negligence" in Arizona is given in
AZ SS 13-105-10 (d) "Criminal negligence" means, with respect to a result or to a circumstance described by a statute defining an offense, that a person fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the result will occur or that the circumstance exists. The risk must be of such nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the situation.
If your logic were to apply, a bad armorer could issue 20 loaded guns on set, nobody would need to check them, and 20 people could be killed/injured and only the armorer could be charged.
Alec ignored basic gun safety, the Actors Firearms Safety Guide, and was in violation of Arizona law, which resulted in a death and injury.
Perhaps his attorney will use your defense and argue that Alec is a 5 year old with a toaster.
Except for it was the actors responsibility to check the gun. It was the Armorer and Dave who was in charge of safety to check the gun and make sure it was safe. Both failed and missed a live round getting in that was mixed in with the dummy rounds box.
They should’ve just cut their loses on this film out of respect of that woman and her family.
I heard they routinely transferred the armory girl to a different department of the production after lunch, so she was no longer supervising the arms and ammo then. Somebody else was, after lunch.
And the video inside the church set clearly shows that AB put his finger on the trigger both times he drew the weapon. He rapidly drew, then put his finger on the trigger, then pointed at camera crew members.
It is extremely easy to pull the trigger when you are quick-drawing and trigger-touching and aiming pretty much all at the same time. He might not have intended to press the trigger, but trigger rearward movement only needs to be about 0.5-0.75 inches/12-19 mm.
Half inch trigger pull? This wasn't a Super Soaker...
Seems like she was set up to be the fall guy
This case is already taking waaay longer than its suppose to.....
Even if the armorer was negligent in her duties, it was also up to Baldwin to check the gun before using it. He was the final line of defense against a live round shooting out of the gun and he failed.
A tragic event that has affected many people. When it comes to guns, always assume they're loaded until you check it yourself.
tragic event for everybody involved
Why even need an "armorer" in the first place on a film set? In what circumstance would a live round be required for a movie set? Someone in this situation killed a person on purpose. I think they are all in on it.
Wow...my first reaction was, THAT's the armourer????
The same thing happen to Brandon Lee. Brandon should still be here today. It shouldn't have happen to him and the woman from the Rust movie.
Who ever armed him should be charged in recklessly endangering everyones lives. That wasn't a cold gun.
OMG that's the armorer!?!?!? Hollywood really has lost their minds.
RIP
The Armourer will be charged but so will the production company. She should never have had to split her duties between wrangling weapons and dealing with on set props. The production company violated safety protocols.
What about the part where they ask it was her blood, Alec Baldwin laughed and said it is fake. That’s sick.
Charges?
Yeah "I got shot"
I can never look at Alec Baldwin the same. Kind of like Will Smith. Major disappointments.
Why in F--- was there live rounds on set?
I wouldn't pay to go see a movie of his
The detective left him alone in an interview room with his phone...
Great work.
He incriminated himself.
The armorer is annoying af
Umm, like.... i dunno. Maybe kinda?
Someone needs to be held accountable.
I don’t think anyone will go to jail over this, atleast not soon. If anyone should be arrested though imo it should be Baldwin as well as the armorer
Accident or not the person handling the gun is 100% responsible
Armour fault.
@@icekingforyou that's like saying if someone rents a car and runs someone over it's the rental agents fault. You see how dumb that is?
@@nicholasmelby5361 are you the dumb one, the actor is literally the one that is going to be on set & is supposed to have everything ready for him he doesn't have the responsibility to do anything other than act, she was supposed to check the gun to make sure no live rounds were in the gun and the live rounds are very different from blanks so that was definitely her fault
How can the armored not check thoroughly, she looks ver inexperienced, there’s so many safety failures here it’s ridiculous.
It like, was like, like hot that day.
It is also the actor job to check if it is a loaded. They take courses about gun safety. Your still accountable cause you point & shoot! Also they should have bulletproof vest in this kind of movies.
They have 1 inch lexan safety glass . Always put up when weapons pointed at cameras
This was a Tragic accident. But you know people are going after Baldwin in such a mean way. Yes, you could say Baldwin is arrogant, but he seems to actually be a really decent person and he's a pretty good actor.People need to lay off the hatred for him, I don't think he deserves all of this horrible treatment. I doubt Ms Hutchin's would approve !