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  • @CS_Sardine
    @CS_Sardine Рік тому +61

    Great video and coaching as always.
    About the rant on 7 minute mark: The positions are different in lower ranks on Nuke. Looking for someone mini is fair given that newer players always have 1 garage, 1 mini, 1 heaven or a site and then 1 or 2 playing ramp. Not saying it's a good setup, just saying it happnes 95% of lower lvl games.

    • @Thrandweel
      @Thrandweel Рік тому +1

      100% There are also "PLAYS" that lower ranked players do that you almost never see in higher rank. Which Ironically... once you get to higher ranks can be good gamble plays on certain rounds because its unexpected. IMO its a very PUG based mindset but lets be honest... 99% of us just play pugs anyway.

    • @CS_Sardine
      @CS_Sardine Рік тому

      @Thrandweel Agreed. Plenty of times, I have seen plays that should not work, work.
      There is a parallel to draw with the Crieg and Aug meta; They had been in the game unchanged for years, but higher lvl players just agreed not to use them. Meanwhile, most newer players gravitate towards them because of their scopes but were often told by the majority of players not to use them. That whole situation must have been hilarious as a valve dev to see.

    • @Firebrandt
      @Firebrandt Рік тому

      @@CS_Sardine This is a misnomer. A lot of pros are rocking both those guns for situational long angle plays. Works great especially on the native servers. Kind of like how peakers advantage, smgs, and xms are meta.

    • @CS_Sardine
      @CS_Sardine Рік тому

      @Firebrandt Sure, they are viable again in CS2. In my comment, I was talking about the past CS GO meta. The guns had been in the game since start with crazy over powered stats and nobody noticed, because we all thought they were bad. I was making a point of about how we as CS players sometimes fail to see the obvious when it's right infront of us.

    • @CS_Sardine
      @CS_Sardine Рік тому

      @Firebrandt "A lot of pros are rocking both those guns for situational long angle plays."
      You are talking about the current meta, right? Or am I misunderstanding you saying allot of pros used to rock them back in the day, 2012-2018?

  • @wirate_palrus
    @wirate_palrus Рік тому +19

    I do completely understand that you shouldn't have to clear every angle when making an initial push from T side, especially after a pick. But I think it is worth noting, that coming from a low ELO range, nothing is out of the realm of expectations. You can have all 5 holding Nuke ramp, all on completely idiotic angles, some just standing in the open. I think being in low ELO reinforces this need to check LITERALLY every angle.

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому +10

      I get what you're saying - clearing every angle is a legitimate way to play in low elo - but it also just seems like a way to stay there. it'll be almost impossible to find timings, test your intuition, build on game sense etc. by following this rule.
      I know in my games there is typically some base logic to how people play, so I'm fine adding a little more risk to my game unless proven otherwise by the players on the other team.

  • @JishJosh
    @JishJosh Рік тому +19

    i love this series your teacher has loads of amazing insights

  • @Remu-
    @Remu- Рік тому +6

    11:14 the point Pienix is trying to make is that you were already pre-aiming the correct spot but then when you peeked you for some reason swung your crosshair on top of the red box which is an angle that doesn't really exist and then tried to readjust back to the enemy but it was too late.

  • @AsianKriss
    @AsianKriss Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this, Getting all this info for free is something people should take for granted. Was bingeing these as I was eating some food and after 1 video I found myself watching the rest, Thank you again for taking the time to post these.

  • @aidenless3479
    @aidenless3479 Рік тому +3

    11:00 what's happening is he's aiming as he's peeking the angle instead of trusting his pre-aim. He says "I need more practice on angle clearing on Nuke," and that's true but what will really teach him how to clear the angle properly is to have him not move the mouse and just get ready to click while he strafes with a/d so that he's using purely pre-aim, and then he would have the understanding of how to use pre-aim whenever he needs it.

  • @big_brein4
    @big_brein4 Рік тому +3

    I like to see that you are actually improving. Compared to your first video of this series it's very apparent.

  • @SuperMorganW
    @SuperMorganW Рік тому

    Just started watching you and this is a great series! I like that the first half is pointing out the mistakes and the second half is talking about what you should do instead

  • @R.R.NLD.
    @R.R.NLD. 6 місяців тому

    Thank you both for sharing all the very educational lessons. Gr. Rob[NLD]

  • @SO7O_
    @SO7O_ Рік тому +1

    Your videos are so great, my faceit level has gone from 4-6 just by aplying these concepts! Keep up the good work

  • @philip0908
    @philip0908 Рік тому +2

    3:24 I love how pienix had to stop talking there.. he wanted to say "because you guys are trash" or something :D

  • @goldfish1837
    @goldfish1837 Рік тому

    These are soo good i watch these like 15 minutes before queuing premier

  • @Whoooodie
    @Whoooodie Рік тому +2

    thanks to this series I imagine a little pienix in my head telling me what i'm doing wrong and it makes me play better :)

  • @favorgod
    @favorgod 11 місяців тому +1

    yo bro, love ur content

  • @ЭрикВл
    @ЭрикВл Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the video! This will be quite helpful.
    I've used to hate nuke but after practicing it for a few weeks & learning prefire angles/smokes etc. it became one of my favourite maps. Maybe you'll start enjoying it too after some time :)

  • @metsavend112
    @metsavend112 11 місяців тому

    My idea about the crosshair moving over the target,is just reaction time.
    You just notice it a microsecond later.
    And viewing it in the replay makes it look even longer tbh.
    But the videos have helped me a lot.
    Thank you for the awsome content!
    Thank

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  11 місяців тому +1

      My reaction time is definitely slower than average, that i can agree with. But I have noticed in many scenarios a huge difference in my reaction speed when I clear something without thinking vs when I clear something expecting to see an enemy. Unfortunately it has proven really hard for me to maintain that sharp focus when clearing, I tend to go on autopilot. Trying to work on it. Thanks for watching : )

  • @PooHBeaRst
    @PooHBeaRst Рік тому

    so cool seeing your progress. you are legit better in every aspect of the game, and its noticeable also. remember in the very first video, he was showing you how to clear b on mirage. on thing that stuck with me he said short and sweet . he peeked every angle without making any steps . its helped me a ton instead of walking into the angle. i walk up to the angle then AD/DA

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому

      Yes!!! This is the thing, I straight up could not do that without making noise. I can now! (Even though sometimes I still mess up and make steps, it’s way less frequent)

    • @PooHBeaRst
      @PooHBeaRst Рік тому

      @@xboxlasagne what kinda keyboard do you got fam

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому

      recently got a wooting @@PooHBeaRst

  • @simoncollins69
    @simoncollins69 Рік тому +1

    this is actually such a good resource for learning.

  • @zululim98
    @zululim98 Рік тому +6

    love the vids bro, keep it up, feels like im getting coached as well

  • @Fyr35555
    @Fyr35555 Рік тому +2

    12:45 I think it would've been useful here if Pienix explained the different methods of clearing certain angles. In some situations its totally fine to clear one angle, then pre aim the next one before peeking. But here you have info they pushed lobby, so it would make sense to have your crosshair hugging the edge of the angle as you peek around the corner in case a player pushed up like that one did. Similar thing can apply to clearing out certain off angles in some scenarios, you don't always want to peek adjust crosshair peek over and over again.

  • @kumakumaa8146
    @kumakumaa8146 Рік тому

    thanks for making such videos it makes alot sense to me and helps alot. we really need to put in the time to practice everything alot!

  • @MrCheddah13
    @MrCheddah13 Рік тому +1

    At 14:00 minute mark I totally understood this, sometimes I prepare myself for a clear just because and not actually thinking someone is there. So my brain is trying to think two steps ahead without processing the information im looking at.

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому +1

      yep!! i have a big problem with this clearly haha

  • @Radoychev
    @Radoychev Рік тому

    13:53 that' something I've noticed doing it myself and like wanting to remove that micro-movement, but not consiously working towards that goal. This can be observed in so many players actually. It's a fear of the unexpected :D
    Amazing series, thanks for these uploads. I am noticing tremendous difference in your play style since I started watching these videos of yours. Looks pretty good, mate. Greetings!

  • @Dili_999
    @Dili_999 8 місяців тому

    26:53 I'd like an experiment to call this in 4k elo and make a documentary of what happens😂

  • @CruiseAndChill
    @CruiseAndChill Рік тому

    I have about 9k hours, hovering around 20-21 k in premier and I took some really nice stuff out of those videos. Keep em up.

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому +1

      I love when people tell me this!

  • @Kondzino
    @Kondzino Рік тому +6

    I have an idea. Ask our couch what are the rules that he lives by in every match when on either the ct or t side. maybe there are rules that if you break them they statistically put you in a disadvantage. Would be great to know

    • @alfred9805
      @alfred9805 Рік тому

      I asked my couch but it didn't answer
      More seriously it's a good idea

    • @IrZ_Kuma
      @IrZ_Kuma Рік тому

      Here's one, if you are last alive, don't just take out flashes of nades. You will inevitably get punished with a nade in hand on timing way more often than you should. If you wanna make an exception to that, then press your nade key and throw immediately, don't hold it out and then throw it after a slight delay

  • @thdotcom1
    @thdotcom1 Рік тому

    always look forward to these! keep em comin!

  • @anti6017
    @anti6017 11 місяців тому

    Im lv 8 and my brain goes very often to autopilot which is clearing/flicking angles. I know its a bad habit. But sometimes it helps me getting warm after not playing for a long time... I definetly have to work on this :'D

  • @Monkeyman-qt1sm
    @Monkeyman-qt1sm Рік тому

    13:56 so I do this alot on accident, it’s not a mental thing for me a least, sometimes my mouse arm will literally twitch if someone “jumpscares” me or it will over react to the recoil because I’m not used to spraying. Almost like an involuntary micro adjustment in my arm

  • @TRIIXTEH
    @TRIIXTEH Рік тому

    Trying to get faceit 10 definitely need a little coaching aim is my biggest issue can’t wait to contact this guy after work

  • @fakuhu178
    @fakuhu178 Рік тому

    My favorite series

  • @rafaelmiesch1356
    @rafaelmiesch1356 Рік тому

    Best content by far.

  • @BiBimBus
    @BiBimBus Рік тому

    Please keep these coming

  • @nade5557
    @nade5557 Рік тому

    It's a different world in the lower elos, you will see some crazy shit

  • @geneseus
    @geneseus 9 місяців тому

    I am always playing mini what do you mean :D if I play nuke there is always one garage one a, one ramp, one outsite and me mini but we switch it up sometimes depends on the enemy team and the money situations

  • @Ragnar-bh1tu
    @Ragnar-bh1tu Рік тому

    I haven't watched it yet, but I am sure it's a great content so I left a like already

  • @migerrancan554
    @migerrancan554 Рік тому +1

    Broo I love Ur synths, what are your thoughts on the asm hydrasynth explorer?

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому +1

      lol thanks - I never played that one but it seems pretty cool

    • @migerrancan554
      @migerrancan554 Рік тому +1

      @@xboxlasagne Watss ur fav outta your collection!!

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому +1

      big fan of my novation peak i love making patches on that thing and the built in effects are actually quite good @@migerrancan554

  • @alfred9805
    @alfred9805 Рік тому

    I feel like ramp is such a disadvantage for Ts so I dont got there when solo queueing because there's no way to throw any utility to give me an edge it's just a 1on1 duel where the CT has positional advantage and T has peeker's advantage

  • @dw300
    @dw300 11 місяців тому

    10:03 - I do this too much as well. I think it's because as you are edging sideways, your brain wants to counteract that WASD movement with a mousemovement to get the crosshair in the right place. In 3D space this ins't that hard, but on screen, unless your mouse sens matches the WASD movement speed and the range at which you are trying to aim, then its easy to over adjust. So I guess it's just about practicing moving your crosshair with WASD rather than the mouse for fine adjustments that will fix this..? I know I try to move my mouse far too much.

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  11 місяців тому

      interesting theory, could be

  • @ze_kenn
    @ze_kenn Рік тому

    Great video, pienix keeps proving to me how good of a teacher he is.
    Btw, how are u downloading ur games? Here in Brazil at least my CS 2 doesn't have that option. I like to rewatch my games so I can analyse my mistakes, but recently I've not being able to download it.
    Arrived here from the mirage videos and I'm enjoying a lot your content lasagne, keep up the good work man.

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому

      thanks! this isn't a demo, it's just a screen recording.

    • @MontySlython
      @MontySlython Рік тому

      If you are interested in that kind of thing I recommend you just play faceit, its free after all and gives you access to demos on top of a better anticheat.

  • @An1m3
    @An1m3 Рік тому

    13:48 I think another way to explain this situation is that you are playing on autopilot. Like you knew you had to clear it but at the same time you weren't methodically clearing it.

  • @marcusnielsen2869
    @marcusnielsen2869 Рік тому

    11:15 youre talking past eachother. youre saying he moved his mouse left too, while he keeps understanding- and seeing it as if its just the movement of his strafe to the left only😅
    also while its important to learn the right tactics, its not always wrong to play and expect things from lower rank players that you think seems to be a mistake hes doing, like the mini talk. But great vid, hope to see more overpass

  • @mattroberg7728
    @mattroberg7728 Рік тому

    Great content bro. Thanks heaps :)

  • @muhaiminmangudadatu7321
    @muhaiminmangudadatu7321 Рік тому

    Great videos bro!

  • @peaceandwealthseeker4504
    @peaceandwealthseeker4504 Рік тому

    Low elo always has a mini player but higher elo usually not

  • @MrSatoou
    @MrSatoou 10 місяців тому

    Question: in my lower elo games there is always an CT awper or with an AUG guarding ramp from headshot and he will destroy us every round because my teammates don’t trade me and he’s really hard to kill with one shot for me… any suggestions how to take ramp?

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  10 місяців тому +1

      work on your angle clearing and/or rush his ass down with your team. tough with randoms who won't run in with you though!

  • @ronals2
    @ronals2 Рік тому +1

    no need to feel embarrassed or anything you are trying to better yourself in the best way you think possible and it will pay off I think if you apply things you learn here and there . I've been enjoying the series, curious what rank you are in premier now?

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому +1

      i think i was around 5k when i played this game. (the videos lag about 2 weeks behind the present day) close to 7k now.

    • @ronals2
      @ronals2 Рік тому

      well im glad you are progressing I have some of your same bad habits with movement and crosshair positioning on a spot back and forth someday well be smooth like butter =p@@xboxlasagne

  • @Georetic
    @Georetic Рік тому

    good stuff, subscribed!

  • @cs2kitchen
    @cs2kitchen Рік тому

    Great video as usual :)

  • @kazmo9148
    @kazmo9148 Рік тому

    I have the same problem of thinking someone isn't at an angle for whatever reason and therefore doing a double take or weird aim like you do lol. Not sure what it is but brain vs screen is definitely not the same lol

  • @Aika3178
    @Aika3178 Рік тому

    Hey how far have you gone elo wise?
    Because I got a feeling you should clear almost everything sometimes unless your enemies are playing properly
    But otherwise im curious how your elo has improved alongside your skill's improvement?

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому

      i calibrated around 3.5k, made it above 7k a couple days ago and then lost a couple in a row

  • @NOOLEm_
    @NOOLEm_ Рік тому

    you dont need to repeat the part from the intro once the intro is over.

  • @renstillmann
    @renstillmann Рік тому

    Uncommon on high rank can be common on low rank though. Just saying.

  • @guilhermeredtfox
    @guilhermeredtfox Рік тому

    Thanks for the video, it's going to be very helpful. Your content is good too. Besides CS2, are you going to bring more Valorant videos?

  • @Bloodworia
    @Bloodworia Рік тому

    This coach clearly hasn't played against my friend. He hides everywhere.

  • @josedamas7272
    @josedamas7272 Рік тому

    whats your elo rn btw?

    • @xboxlasagne
      @xboxlasagne  Рік тому

      around 5k when i played this game and near 7k now.

    • @josedamas7272
      @josedamas7272 Рік тому

      @@xboxlasagne awsome progress ive been stuck around 8-9k but recently started 5stacking and got to 11k its like when i play with othewr ppl i get more focused and kill more its wierd

  • @davesuvill1761
    @davesuvill1761 Рік тому +3

    one thing i dont like about this is how he assumes that people in low elo play the game correctly. you cant predict stupid

    • @doktorduggieducker9615
      @doktorduggieducker9615 Рік тому +5

      I would argue that he knows how to rank up and his advice will work more often then not.

    • @kshimi
      @kshimi Рік тому +3

      you can predict stupid, its way easier than predicting smart... the idea of not being able to predict stupid is a fat copium

  • @lemb3157
    @lemb3157 Рік тому

    Super siiii

  • @tjayk9127
    @tjayk9127 Рік тому +22

    Not checking corners because you expect it to be clear after a kill is how you get 3Kd from behind by a double stack.
    I strongly disagree with the “stop checking corners” just because you killed someone in a location. 2 people play same spot enough of the time in hopes of getting positive trades for me to agree with that take.

    • @ClickingHeads
      @ClickingHeads Рік тому

      No offense but what rank are you? I'm like 4.5k just wondering if it's worth double checking.

    • @notrobert8284
      @notrobert8284 Рік тому +10

      ​@ClickingHeads at your rank, clear every angle. Drill it into your brain. At much higher ranks (faceit 9+) it becomes a lot more common for people to play smarter than stacking 2 angles. For where you're at right now, focus on clearing EVERYTHING. It will get you free kills.

    • @xXxC0nSUm3rXxX1337
      @xXxC0nSUm3rXxX1337 Рік тому

      ​@notrobert8284 this is fair what rank are u sir?

    • @nathansexton9620
      @nathansexton9620 Рік тому

      @@xXxC0nSUm3rXxX1337I’m only about 6k in cs2 but I was dmg in GO (still not even high) but I agree with him saying clear most angles at this rank the only exception that comes to mind would be places you know the timing of from spawn when hard pushing on T side that you know they can’t possibly be at yet

    • @carsonclashed8860
      @carsonclashed8860 Рік тому

      I agree, they could definitely be boosting another player on boxes and baiting for them.

  • @MD-qr3fb
    @MD-qr3fb Рік тому +1

    lmao NA ropz

  • @jabrowski_
    @jabrowski_ 9 місяців тому

    Silf sahbootaige

  • @CS_Sardine
    @CS_Sardine Рік тому +3

    First! 😅

  • @davesuvill1761
    @davesuvill1761 Рік тому

    i think his sens is just to high, thats why hes moves his cross hair so much

  • @davesuvill1761
    @davesuvill1761 Рік тому +1

    mf says obviously no one else in gonna be there but the amount of times people do what he thinks is un common is highly common in low elo

    • @Syrupstorm
      @Syrupstorm Рік тому +2

      If someone is holding bad nonsensical spots then you adjust to their shitty play for that 1 game after you die to it.
      You don’t clear that spot for the rest of your life because one bad silver held a rat angle on an off timing. That just makes you bad too.

    • @davesuvill1761
      @davesuvill1761 Рік тому

      @Syrupstorm yeah bro ok. You do you. I could say the same do it and when you see their habits and positions stop doing it as often

  • @asch251
    @asch251 Рік тому

    ive played you lmao im right in debussy on steam