Of course there is a limit. At some point you have to actually swim the race. It's impossible to do the 50 in 0 seconds. We aren't at the limit yet but we are getting close.
I am thinking that there is a limit, mostly because of drag, and there are limits to eliminating drag. Noticed you have a Race Club logo up there. Love his approach with all the underwater videos and his 'toys' to view and analyze everything. .
The greatest short term potential evolution in swimming world records, especially sprint events, would come from swimming drawing from a more global and diverse range of people, many of whom do not grow up with lap swimming pool infrastructures and/or a cultural connection to lap swimming
if u look at the fina clip from 0:59, you can see that one of the swimmers did 1 or 2 underwaters as he dived in not to mention another one during the pullout lol
Its kind of funny because the dolphin kicks as soon as someone enters the water actually slows down the swimmer. Sneaking a second fly kick during the pull out however is an art
Also, younger swimmers adopt the technique and learn things earlier on, making them faster as younger people and giving them more time to get better. Example, Carson foster, Thomas hielman, and Clark Kent Apuada
And where is Apuada now. If you see there are only videos about when he was 11. If you search him now there is nothing, not even 1 thing about him, and in swimcloud with now 15 he is not doing bad times but he have gotten much worse
I can remember when Joe Bottom's 22.71 seemed unbelievably fast... Yes, the suits created an advantage in 2009, with regards to the 50 free, the two guys who went under 21 that year also had the same Coach in Brett Hawke. While the suits have been reduced in size, I dare the technology in them is now equivalent to 2009 if not actually superior. Excellent coaching and new types of training is what ultimately is behind improvements. Dressel I don't believe is capable of 20.67 as your cover photo suggested. Though I do believe he does have a 20.89 in him. His start is the key, the momentum of his first 20 meters is unsurpassed.
I remember going back home from Sicily via Rome that summer on the day when all swimmers were returning home too. So I bumped into a group of these athletes standing and chatting away at Fiumicino airport and they sure looked like aliens from the outer space to me: tall, very long arms, very broad backs, legs seemed short in relation to the long torso and arms - evolution in action.
If its up to evolution, then surely we are getting slower as we evolved further away from our dorsal fin ancestors? Having longer limbs and stronger muscles doesnt qualify as evolution either as Neaderthals had longer limbs and stronger muscles than homo sapiens? Do you feel my dilemma?
My video was mainly an assumption about the future of the homo sapien swimming evolution, but I definitely agree with your points. It’s almost impossible we’ll be as fast as our dorsal fin ancestors but in the last 50 years, humans have got much faster timewise. If human evolution isn’t the main part of this trend, then it’ll be down to better technique and technology.
@@MaxSwims I have a theory that the Michael Phelps era of swimming caused an "evolution" for swimmers. The popularity in the sport rose and that brought a much larger pool (haha) of swimmers. If there are more people in the sport the likelihood for a freak of nature to come along and smash records increases. I looked at trends for american records in scy and noticed that for a lot of events the amount of time being taken off records has been decreasing from the 1970s-2010s but the recent records have been broken by larger margins.
3:22 Evolution or not the speed is going to be capped at around 20 seconds and will never be 5 seconds for instance. By the same token no ship travels at 200 knots.
200im is from 2011 by lochte Real challenge is 200,800free because no one can get even close to this times. In 200free fastest non-tech suit swim is 1:43,14 by Angel in 2012,exepct him, no one even broke the 1:44 barrier, it's just not beatable in my opinion And in 800free the best swimmers now days swim around 7:40, if they break 7:40 it's one of the best in the world and winning time last year in Tokio was 7:39 which is miles away from 7:32... I think this 2 records are most difficult to break if it will ever happen
200 back record is still around, Piersol was so good technically. Also 400 free relay from 2008 Olympics, that's going to be a tough one with Lezak going 46.06 on the end.
Everyone didn't though, for instance Michael Phelps had to use the speedo one because he was sponsored by them, I mean he didn't have to but he felt obligated and he thought he could be beiderman without it but he was wrong. The Jaked suit was far superior to the Speedo one in keeping the swimmer on top of the water. So just to make it fair and swimming less about who has the best suit, they banned them and made only jammers as the rule.
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Of course there is a limit. At some point you have to actually swim the race. It's impossible to do the 50 in 0 seconds. We aren't at the limit yet but we are getting close.
Very good analysis. The beauty of sport is that there is always someone faster.
I am thinking that there is a limit, mostly because of drag, and there are limits to eliminating drag. Noticed you have a Race Club logo up there. Love his approach with all the underwater videos and his 'toys' to view and analyze everything. .
The greatest short term potential evolution in swimming world records, especially sprint events, would come from swimming drawing from a more global and diverse range of people, many of whom do not grow up with lap swimming pool infrastructures and/or a cultural connection to lap swimming
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if u look at the fina clip from 0:59, you can see that one of the swimmers did 1 or 2 underwaters as he dived in not to mention another one during the pullout lol
Still peaty won lol
Its kind of funny because the dolphin kicks as soon as someone enters the water actually slows down the swimmer. Sneaking a second fly kick during the pull out however is an art
Also, younger swimmers adopt the technique and learn things earlier on, making them faster as younger people and giving them more time to get better. Example, Carson foster, Thomas hielman, and Clark Kent Apuada
And where is Apuada now. If you see there are only videos about when he was 11. If you search him now there is nothing, not even 1 thing about him, and in swimcloud with now 15 he is not doing bad times but he have gotten much worse
Well summarized. Next gen swimmers will break records without full body suits there is no limit of human body.
I can remember when Joe Bottom's 22.71 seemed unbelievably fast... Yes, the suits created an advantage in 2009, with regards to the 50 free, the two guys who went under 21 that year also had the same Coach in Brett Hawke.
While the suits have been reduced in size, I dare the technology in them is now equivalent to 2009 if not actually superior.
Excellent coaching and new types of training is what ultimately is behind improvements. Dressel I don't believe is capable of 20.67 as your cover photo suggested. Though I do believe he does have a 20.89 in him. His start is the key, the momentum of his first 20 meters is unsurpassed.
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I remember going back home from Sicily via Rome that summer on the day when all swimmers were returning home too. So I bumped into a group of these athletes standing and chatting away at Fiumicino airport and they sure looked like aliens from the outer space to me: tall, very long arms, very broad backs, legs seemed short in relation to the long torso and arms - evolution in action.
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Great Analysis
Technique, training, strength and speed.
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If its up to evolution, then surely we are getting slower as we evolved further away from our dorsal fin ancestors?
Having longer limbs and stronger muscles doesnt qualify as evolution either as Neaderthals had longer limbs and stronger muscles than homo sapiens?
Do you feel my dilemma?
My video was mainly an assumption about the future of the homo sapien swimming evolution, but I definitely agree with your points. It’s almost impossible we’ll be as fast as our dorsal fin ancestors but in the last 50 years, humans have got much faster timewise. If human evolution isn’t the main part of this trend, then it’ll be down to better technique and technology.
@@MaxSwims I have a theory that the Michael Phelps era of swimming caused an "evolution" for swimmers. The popularity in the sport rose and that brought a much larger pool (haha) of swimmers. If there are more people in the sport the likelihood for a freak of nature to come along and smash records increases. I looked at trends for american records in scy and noticed that for a lot of events the amount of time being taken off records has been decreasing from the 1970s-2010s but the recent records have been broken by larger margins.
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3:22 Evolution or not the speed is going to be capped at around 20 seconds and will never be 5 seconds for instance. By the same token no ship travels at 200 knots.
most tragic was that Thorpe lost his 2002 400m WR by one hundreth of a second to a speed suit
The limit is how fast the dolphin kick can go, this is the fastest way to swim afterall even though it’s not an actual event
I personally believe swimmers will always progress in swimming, however this would only be possible if they went to Monday lunch gym
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David popovic made 50 m in 18s.
Not all records are gone. 200 Free and 200 IM still a challenge
200im is from 2011 by lochte
Real challenge is 200,800free because no one can get even close to this times.
In 200free fastest non-tech suit swim is 1:43,14 by Angel in 2012,exepct him, no one even broke the 1:44 barrier, it's just not beatable in my opinion
And in 800free the best swimmers now days swim around 7:40, if they break 7:40 it's one of the best in the world and winning time last year in Tokio was 7:39 which is miles away from 7:32... I think this 2 records are most difficult to break if it will ever happen
And 400 IM
200 back record is still around, Piersol was so good technically. Also 400 free relay from 2008 Olympics, that's going to be a tough one with Lezak going 46.06 on the end.
Caeleb dressel did 17.63 once
This was in a Short Course Yards pool. The Long Course Metres WR is 20.91.
How was it unfair to use the super suit if everyone used it?
Everyone didn't though, for instance Michael Phelps had to use the speedo one because he was sponsored by them, I mean he didn't have to but he felt obligated and he thought he could be beiderman without it but he was wrong. The Jaked suit was far superior to the Speedo one in keeping the swimmer on top of the water. So just to make it fair and swimming less about who has the best suit, they banned them and made only jammers as the rule.
Not everyone chose to use it, and anyway it made swimming less of a ‘natural talent’ sport and more of a ‘who has the best suit’ sport.
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I think no will break 19 sec 50 m free in future
When they stop inventing stronger drugs. Its all chemistry now, not swimming.
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