This is so true. Wins feel very cheap or unsatisfying in this game and I play Steve which needs a lot of work. And still, I get the same boring feeling when I win with Heihachi even when I win with Steve
@@sayedomairsiam6344As a lowly hardstuck Fujin Lee who fought like 9 Heihachis in ranked today, that dude feels like a boss battle😂 probably gotta lab it
@@sayedomairsiam6344 lol are we playing the same game? Maybe rank up till you hit your skill floor if that's the case because at like Bushin and up every round with Steve is earned.
I agree with you on that. I've met many players who clearly got carried by their character rather than their own skills. And even if I win against those players I don't feel happy but anger due to the state of the game. These players rely heavily on those launchers and combos that take 50 - 60% health, they lack serious fundamentals. If it adds any context I main Steve by the way and boy is it tough out there with all these gimmicks.
KoF players refused to play the newest titles until they felt that it was up to their standards. Tekken players should do the same if they really feel this way.
Would be the case if the costs of development and scope weren't as large. A game that flops (low sales, low player base etc.) usually gets no sequel. No company is going to greenlight a 40-100m usd for a project thta previously flopped or even wasn't as finincially sound. That's the reality of gaming in the AAA space, and it won't change until investment from big companies diminishes to aorund 20% of what it is today, as it is much easier to lose 2m than 10m+
Tekken 8 is a very attractive game for newcomers to fighting games. 2 of my friends who’ve never played a fighting game purchased it at full price. 3 others have stated interested in purchasing the game prior to the formers purchase. The average layperson is a “graphics first” type person and tekken has basicaly the best graphics in the “popular” fighting game scene
He is just salty. He's not wrong in his observation, but his salt is clear. He only complains whenever he loses. Just look, he placed 65th place in PPG battle champ. And then not too soon after he twitted that. He lost to that Lili TGU and complained. He lost to some other guy and complained that it was his controller, etc, etc. He only complains about the game if he's not beating everyone.
@@xeonthehero9090Whether you’re good at the game or not, attack the point. Not him being salty. Being salty doesn’t have anything to do with whether he’s right or wrong.
Naw let's use our critical thinking hat here. Arslan went all in on Tekken and got sponsored, his life style depends on winning tourneys or at least placing high. If he got knocked out at 65th that's a big blow to his image. It's crazy he's saying " one launcher + 1 50/50" when every character has get off me tools in their kits everyone has to respect. And the universal armor of heat. The problem is he can't just "figure out" Tekken 8 like he could Tekken 7, in this game you can't just lab a character and know 90 percent how to beat them.
The literal champion of tekken right now doesn’t like how the game is played, idk how anyone can speak against that lol. Dude literally beats everyone in the game right now, and doesn’t like it the way it is.
He's just not though? He popped on the scene in Tekken 7, the most defensive, one dimensional, CH string heavy version of the game and spammed back dash and jab with kazumi. He then tier hopped through the DLC characters till the end of T7. Now that people have actual threats other than 2 moves like in T7 all the sudden, "the games bad", "It's just launch and 50/50". Lol T7 was just launch and the round was over so everyone just poked all day and kbd.
A lot of people argue that his opinions on the game are tied to his performance. When he does well he's positive, when he loses it's the complete opposite. I remember at the start of the year when all that Xiaoyu drama happened because Yoredz beat him decisively in a FT10. We had people on twitter seriously wanting to delete entire moves of Xiaoyu's all because of the shitstorm Arslan & Knee caused on twitter after they played him. And now? Nobody cares anymore despite her remaining relatively untouched.
Important context that non-Tekken players in these comments do not have: Arslan had no complaints when he won his EVO. He then made that tweet not an hour after placing 65th. He also has a history of being salty on twitter. The current champion of Tekken is undeniably Ulsan, who has only commented on the matter to make fun of people saying that the TK7 defensive playstyle should come back because it was boring and unfun to watch. This video is just theScore farming controversial titles, not to be taken seriously.
The bottom line is that bad players get tools to beat good players without actually having to be better and games are boring. This is on every level. People who find this fun are the ones benefiting from it.
They LOVE to claim people are complaining because they suck. If you can't deal with azucena spamming her running attack NON STOP remember that's YOUR problem. If you don't like fighting 3 dragonovs,then a top tier king,followed by 3 Bryan's and 2 more dragonovs then that means YOU need to labe the game more. If you get caught by a super long low from Kuma or feng that's YOUR fault. You too slow😒
@@Tk.Bogarts easy to spam his evo combos. Easy to play up down all game. Trip to kick you soon as you get up uppercut to wall combo to another trip to start al over again. How fun 😒
This is the first Tekken game I simply stopped having fun in and just dropped. 300hrs in and one day I woke up and said “nah there are better fighting games out im done”
I dropped at 270 hours in 8, i'd rather play Coin Flip sim than this. At least that doesn't force monetization down my throat and does not require a total 180 in mechanics and balance
@@wantu7816we bring up those games for movement. Not for balance. Did you even read what have been said here? Buff "movement" like those games mentioned No one said have same balanced "moveset" like those games
Implement "classic mode": No heat; no rage art; no power crushes; sidestep and backdash animation speed increased 5% for all characters. Then slowly promote this mode until it eventually becomes more popular and replaces the "standard" mode. Nobody is going to miss heat.
A key point for 50/50s too is, it's 50% to lose, and 50% to not die. You still have to deal with being in corner and your opponent having MORE buttons.
People hate on arslan and even tho he is a meta h**, he is right. This game is all about 50/50 and guessing. If i wanna guess then i go to a casino. Guessing has nothing to do with skill but rather luck.
6:37 I don't think buying a Map or Character with Tekken Coins is possible 💀💀💀 that would be too easy and convenient since you get a few from that dreaded Fight Pass
So you know why pros played that way with only backdashing and pokes every 10 seconds in T7? Because one launcher carries you to the wall for most of your health and then one 50/50 mix on oki was enough to finish you off. Funny that Plus everyone had crazy good CH tools, and sidestepping was terrible.
Another very important correction: they made the stage free and added it to the base game as included compensation, meaning it’s now available for everyone.
@professoremil another VERY very important correction: Only the NEXT dlc stage (that will be released in winter) will be free. You still need to pay for the Heihachi temple stage and like OP said, you cannot use Tekken Coins. 😊
I think the issue isn’t just the 50/50’s it’s the character’s frame data when applying it. When Kazuya ops for oki using FF 4 or Hell sweep, if it is blocked kazuya’s turn is recognizably over and he takes a full combo. Most characters that are top tier never give up their turn while applying their true 50/50s. You’re locked in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. It’s even worse when the opponent is a xiaoyu and every move looks like it can either go mid or low.
This is what happens when Tekken's defensive systems honed over decades get thrown out the window for 'aggresive play' and wider audience appeal. Turns out it's bad for your competitive game if you remove decision making and interaction points from your game.
Bro tekken 7 combos were stupid 💀 they heavily nerfed combos in tekken 8 sure they’re long but the grey health is such a nerf. You could get hit with an 80% combo by someone if you simply tech rolled wrong and they had a wall
Tag 2 and Tekken 7 while having huge issues that did frustrate me. Both games kept me coming back for their entire lifespan. Tekken 8 is a little over six months in and I don’t play anymore and same goes for my friends who played these games with me from day 1. I truly believe they’ve taken the game into the wrong direction and don’t see people like me as the target audience anymore.
The person tweeting "people yearn for real tekken" is wild, because they don't know what actual Tekken is. Actual Tekken is sets of fighting interactions that conclude in a round won or lost, not touch of death or wall carries.
Arslan is already a Tekken 8 champion but guys in the comments are saying he's wrong because he lost. The Tekken community is actually unhinged, Every other FGC listens to their GOATS.
100% factually incorrect. There is no fan base that treats their goats as having perfect opinions. Not in strive, street fighter or Mortal Kombat. Stop glazing
Yeah... He wants Tekken 7 back so he can win more, there are plenty of people that just want to press buttons, it's a game not one person's cash cow so he can win titles over and over. T7 was hella boring and if you want to play "real tekken" there are characters for that. Knee uses Brian. Tekkenicain uses Steve to great effect, there are a lot of people having fun and mastering the game and a small minority being super loud.
@johnsmith-ol9qj your argument is pretty stupid tbh. It's not about him being salty or not winning. Look at his argument. Its absolutely true. The game basically has no neutral, and the 50/50s are just way too much. And its not even that balanced.
About the 500 Tekken coins, you can't actually buy the stage with coins, you still have to pay 5 very big, very real, buckeronis. Please add in a correction, this info is wrong, don't spread misinformation.
As a Feng main, I gotta say the Tekken 7 Feng Wei was much better as compared to the Tekken 8 one, the Character is and was OP no doubt and had almost every desired tool, but the Tekken 7 one was much more Approachable, hitting the combos was much satisfying for me personally.
Bandai Namco should have just let SCVI have their formula to themselves. Copying that made no sense for Tekken. It only works in SCVI because of the length of combos, the more simplistic/shorter command list and difference in weapons. Just go back, Bamco. Go back. It doesn't mix.
@leonelgarcia2651 Yes. " Project Soul ". Its THEIR fault. Shimbori from " DOA " is also responsible for the stage interactions. Shit, even " Akira " behind the graphics for " Fighting EX Layer " had something to do with how T8 looks and possibly even feels. The meeting they all had together gave birth to what we're dealing with RIGHT NOW.
@leonelgarcia2651 Another cookie crumb on " Project Soul " .... look at some of Yoshimitsu's moves. Look at the nunchucks on Law. Alisa kinda suspect in chainsaw mode. Now look at Victor in GENERAL.
The most unoriginal comment. This game has become something like league of legends, where every scrub can feel like a winner. Tekken was not about that. Learning a hard character, making decisions on the fly and beating your opponent with skills is way better than this shit. It became greedy, so they want to appeal to a more general audience. Tekken is dying. Because you are scrubs.
Agreed, in tekken there was always a rewards for learning more and mastering a character, with more grind came a greater reward in tekken, which is devolved in tekken 8@@Max-f3
@@Max-f3 lol this game will only grow ur delusional, its no where near dying and this game isnt scrubby based, the same faces that were champions in t7 are still champions, no scrubby player suddenly showed and beat all the og players, this will never happen, the only problem you all have which you dont realize is with broken characters, not the game in general
I think the problem is Bandai trying to make the game easier, but not really exploring what new players need, instead of that, they decided to just make modification and add mechanics that makes new players skip steps within the game just so they can beat better by abusing the 50/50 without even having to make strategies
Bamco catered to the western audience because the way the asians/pakistani's play the game requires a lot of patience and focus....something the west can't maintain for too long. Look at the character picks in the west compared to that of tge east...Look at tge playstyles...How many times have you seen a western player SS and df2 his opponent like AA or Knee has done regularly..?? Or better yet...Knee vs AA Evo 2019...Kazumi vs DJ....The way AA systematically kept SSL Knee to whiff punish DJ...Have you ever seen a western player that focused..?? Naaah...This game was specifically designed for the west because they were LOSING that battle..!!!
Enough with the juggle shenanigans 2D has you in a stun animation when you're perform a combo you can't move there basically the same thing but different scenarios stop the CAP
Variance its not about the top players can get top 8, its about places those players get a tournament, you cannot have same dominance like tekken 6, tag 2 and tekken 7
Let's not forget that at one point in Tekken 7, they made Kazuya's hellsweep tracking. They really just want to dumb everything down for newbies without sparing a thought to their long time playerbase. At this point, Tekken deserves to die and hopefully be replaced by a 3D fighting game that respects its players.
@@eddy3080Tekken alpha build is the only true Tekken, everyone who likes anything after that (including release version of Tekken 1) is either a scrub or a shill
Bruh this is horrible and the heat combo longevity is definitely hard hitting with the Mishimas because damn once i get launched by them, then they go into heat, I'm cooked like no chance to retaliate, it's just absolutely cheap
It doesn't matter if the top pro says the game is bad. Punk who is still the best NA Street Fighter 6 player complains about mechanics in 6 because he came from Street Fighter 5 and was a pro in that. Arslan was from Tekken 7 and complains about 8's mechanics. Same deal. These players want the game they fell in love with but are forcing themselves to play the new entries hoping it's the old game. Regardless of this I do think Tekken 8 has some issues though lol
Solid video! This is straight to the point and hammers down what the exact problem with Tekken 8 is right now. Thanks for making this, appreciate people making their voices heard, maybe Bandai will listen and make some drastic changes. When they said: "Tekken 8 is going to be more agressive". I never imagined that meaning 10-13 second matches because: You guessed wrong!
exactly what i have been thinking. great video and I don't think tekken 8 is perfect either but I have no idea why this is the breaking point either just super perplexing.
Adding in get in for free mechanics, nuking movement, adding even more wall Carry mechanics than screw provided. T7 was bad and by the end we didn’t think it could get worse…. Then it did, anyone saying tekken 7 was too defensive was mad, compared to real legacy tekken like ttt1 movement was a joke in that game too. as a fighting game player i envy the legacy preservation games like CS has.
T8 is in absolute trash state. Of course, any game is allowed to be broken on release, but sometime in June devs said "no more major balance patching until 2025". And this approach can't be justified by any reasonable human being. They didn't stop adding paid content, mind you.
This crisis only exists in twitter... far from me to say Arslan is wrong or not legitimate in his observations and complains etc, but Tekken has always been very volatile, that's why matches are best of 5 rounds. It would be cool if you covered some analysis of how fighting games work every now and then, i imagine it would help everyone who appreciates the genere and follows a bit through channels like this every now and then and also the hosts. 50/50s are not meant to be reacted like you say around 1:45, it's a guess, and that's why it's a 50/50, because it's not about reacting it's a coinflip, you have to READ what the opponent will do
@@Bovineicide game being dead or alive can't be measured by twitch viewership when there are literally bath tub streams with millions of viewers. Clearly people on twitch are interested in something else. We should look at steam numbers and it's doing well
I get the feeling that Tekken is writing itself into a corner. Older games didnt need 100+ moves, long combos, or a plethora of stances and mixups to feel fun. I feel like every new Tekken just feels to add MORE moves and LONGER combos and 1up the previous entry without even checking to see if the product has become bloated, which I think it has.
What you have to understand is that Tekken has always been a 2-3 touch game and snowballs easily the reason why tekken 7 was so alow was because you can gey counterhit or low parry randomly and just die after a wallcombo and they made movement so shit while every string had amazing tracking it felt like you were forced to play a 2D game with just backdash and dash forward avoid a counterhit thats the reason why Tekken 8 released with heat what I dont like about T8 is that you can be put into a 50/50 guess more often but not having the tools to like backdash out of shit hurts a lot
And if he tweets tons of stuff of when he wins, you'd just use that as more ammo when he *does lose* and tweet it Can't ever win on social media, nevermind Twitter
@@dannyrpt Yeah i dont disagree with the goat arslan, just find it funny that he always tweets when he loses 😂 heat should not give safe powercrush on entry, + safe mid launchers and strong mixup options, and then end with a heat smash that gives you mixup on block
if you dont like the game now quit. no fighter has to my memory received core mechanic changes to a level that would alter the flow of the game in a major way. Parry, FADC, ABC combos, Roman cancels etc. They might get a little change but that is it. Example with Tekken is heat engagers not tracking anymore. That is likely gonna be it. If they slow it down to a redactable point it wont work for combos so that aint happening. the best we can hope for is being over -10 on block.
On April Arslan also said: "I'm tired of complaining about the game. I'm just going to adapt regardless of the meta..." then one time he complained about his stick, then one time he complained about a tournament on PC. Arslan has been crying since the start of Tekken 8.
I feel people are only repeating what Arslan said and hating on the game because it’s what some pros are doing, tekken 8 is the most fun I’ve had playing tekken since tekken 5
You actually can't buy the stage with the coins since the stage is DLC and sold only with real money. The 500 coins can be used towards a fight pass or other microtransactions from the TEKKEN store though
It seems like they forget what made Tekken 7 fun for fans they did not have to add all that mechanic to cater beginners. They sacrificed the real fans who mastered the game fundamentally now pros are getting cooked by new players abusing these mechanics that made the game revolve only on 50/50's. A glorified guessing game.
been saying the same thing since the beta, heat and immense combo damage just encourages this boring guessing game playstyle at all levels because defensive options are so weak now that the only way to win is by blowing the other guy up first
I flew 3 hours to get to my capital city to catch up with people within my community and play at locals in person, which I don't get to do often because I live remote. In T7 era, there would be a minimum of 10 setups with people queing up to play. I went yesterday for Tekken 8 (which I primarily went to see people, not play the game) and Tekken was relegated to a corner with 4 set-ups with everything else being street fighter and other retro fighters. I was there for 5 hours and people were not queuing to play. Set-ups were vacant, and there was zero hype. Spoke to members of the community only to be told most of the guys I grew up playing T7 stopped playing because they disliked T8. It actually made me sad, but I completely understood it. Were 10 months into the game and the competitive scene in my capital city is already dead. No one cares about this game, and I saw it first hand in my own community.
every character in T8 can wall carry and deal more damage than paul lol. launch punishables in T7 which is understandable, dont work anymore. even behind a character doing strings can instantly turn their face on you 😂
Read the notes on PhiDX's video "Knee has solved Tekken 8." As somebody who - not a Fighting game player altough I am invested in Tekken as a fan - likes to put alot of thought into Game Design that realistically works, I think the first part of the video has some potential for T8's redesign needs. Make aggressiveness more of a neutral, where sidestepping and contesting small frame advantages lead to more smaller combo trades. That way we could have alot of creative player interaction while giving more options to 50/50 without losing the aggressive idenity Just an inspiration for a thought direction - what would you change/add?
Thing is, it's already a thing with T4, even with backdash and sidestep nerfed, the game focused more on mini combos and tracking aren't as fierce as modern game since T6 (T6's tracking is considered tame, you know). EWGF didn't even launch on normal hit, generic launchers generally more linear, CH launches are specialty, juggles are limited and often very hard, only some of them like Lee had better juggles than the others. But of course everybody thinks the game's bad because of it's jankiness and balancing issues, but nobody considers the core gameplay and dismisses T4 entirely.
Tekken Fans: "Game is so unbalanced!!! You always had to deal with 50/50 risks to even play the game!!!" Master Duel Fans: "You can play the game there???"
Lifelong Tekken player here. The game is just trash. They dropped the ball on this one. I could go on for hours about all the things wrong with it but in general it's just bad mechanics. Heat sucks, the aggressive philosophy isn't fun, the micro-transactions and heartless actions of the money hungry namcops are all just getting to be too much. The games just not fun. I agree with Arslan, it legitimately makes your mood worse and makes you feel bad. There's no fixing this... they're in too deep.
Going full attack was always going to be an huge unbalanced direction for the game in long term. Tekken needs more defensive play style to be balanced, nerfing characters won’t save it unfortunately
Some of these paid DLC options like characters and stages really confuse me. I feel like I recall years ago them saying "Tekken is like chess, and if you have to pay extra for new pieces on your chess board then you're playing at a disadvantage" and for that reason they were never going to charge for stages and characters, only cosmetic stuff.
Tekken community: we only listen to the pros. If you aint a pro your opinion dont count The best tekken player: i dont like this game Community: shut up! What do you know?! This community is so toxic. The game is toxic too. Arslan is the GOAT. And hes 1,000% right
6:42 you cannot buy the genmaji temple with the coins. You still have to purchase it with real money. They basically gave everyone store credit because the stage is $5.
Have to at least make heat burst not hit mid-air. Then you at least don't get an extra 20 damage from a launcher into oki with heat. Even better to remove it. Then if you choose an i14 or i15 baseline for a heat engager it becomes a variant launcher that gives you a single OP mixup. If damage is still too high reduce every launcher to a tornado during heat.
Or just have heat burst return you to neutral whether on hit or block. At least it would just function as an escape tool rather than either stealing a turn or getting a full combo.
2:40 "Your opponent gets about two chances to play the game." hmmm where have i heard this before? oh yeah when I was learning to play Tekken 7 in December last year in anticipation for Tekken 8. funny how things change they really stay the same.
I have a few ideas. Heat should have a longer bar and you can turn it on and off but it never recharges through all rounds. Having heat through every fight you can always be aggressive but this would add some strategy to it. Consider a breaker system that will make your character drop straight to the ground during a combo like MK. And it would use a chunk of heat as well making it a defensive tool as well as offensive.
5:26 Devil jin before tekken 8 was considered one of the best picks for playing a mishima, cuz he's more into jack of all trades mishima, good jab, good low, his damage were ok, no gimmick moves, good panic move(u+4), etc (excluding tekken 7 last season patch, cuz he's bad). But in tekken 8, he's in his most pathetic state ever, considered as the worst mishima. And you're expecting a NERF for Devil jin in this patch?
Man the state of tekken was the same the game started lol. Arslan is the one who spoke about the state then questioning it because of how simple it was. Then magically changed his mind and said he was enjoying tekken lol.
Thank god i didnt buy it! i was skeptic at first, and had a bad feeling about this game. Anyone remember Tag 2? How awesome Namco was? How Tekken made a statment about giving out most of the content for free? what the fuck happend here?! I would MUCh rather play Tag 2 then this garabage! how can they fuck up tekken so bad?!
you know a game has a problem, when even while you're winning, the game isn't fun. wins feel so unfulfilled, & cheap. feel scummy after a win.
you dont play the game ovi
This is so true. Wins feel very cheap or unsatisfying in this game and I play Steve which needs a lot of work. And still, I get the same boring feeling when I win with Heihachi even when I win with Steve
@@sayedomairsiam6344As a lowly hardstuck Fujin Lee who fought like 9 Heihachis in ranked today, that dude feels like a boss battle😂 probably gotta lab it
@@sayedomairsiam6344 lol are we playing the same game? Maybe rank up till you hit your skill floor if that's the case because at like Bushin and up every round with Steve is earned.
I agree with you on that. I've met many players who clearly got carried by their character rather than their own skills. And even if I win against those players I don't feel happy but anger due to the state of the game.
These players rely heavily on those launchers and combos that take 50 - 60% health, they lack serious fundamentals. If it adds any context I main Steve by the way and boy is it tough out there with all these gimmicks.
You cant buy genmaji temple with the coins they give you, you can buy everything else with them, but not the stage :\
KoF players refused to play the newest titles until they felt that it was up to their standards. Tekken players should do the same if they really feel this way.
People are too connected to tekken and 3d fighters and there is no alternative so here we are
Would be the case if the costs of development and scope weren't as large. A game that flops (low sales, low player base etc.) usually gets no sequel. No company is going to greenlight a 40-100m usd for a project thta previously flopped or even wasn't as finincially sound. That's the reality of gaming in the AAA space, and it won't change until investment from big companies diminishes to aorund 20% of what it is today, as it is much easier to lose 2m than 10m+
Tekken 8 is a very attractive game for newcomers to fighting games. 2 of my friends who’ve never played a fighting game purchased it at full price. 3 others have stated interested in purchasing the game prior to the formers purchase. The average layperson is a “graphics first” type person and tekken has basicaly the best graphics in the “popular” fighting game scene
This is what baffles me, T7 was nothing but red flags yet many Tekken fans thought T8 magically will have zero problems.
Saying he's salty is just an-hominem. Listen to what he's saying and whether it makes sense or not. And it does. 1 launcher + 1 50/50 = dead = boring.
He is just salty. He's not wrong in his observation, but his salt is clear. He only complains whenever he loses. Just look, he placed 65th place in PPG battle champ. And then not too soon after he twitted that. He lost to that Lili TGU and complained. He lost to some other guy and complained that it was his controller, etc, etc. He only complains about the game if he's not beating everyone.
@@xeonthehero9090 green rank comment
@@xHuie Pointing out patterns in someone's behavior means I am bad at the game. Excellent critical thinking right there 👍
@@xeonthehero9090Whether you’re good at the game or not, attack the point. Not him being salty. Being salty doesn’t have anything to do with whether he’s right or wrong.
Naw let's use our critical thinking hat here. Arslan went all in on Tekken and got sponsored, his life style depends on winning tourneys or at least placing high. If he got knocked out at 65th that's a big blow to his image. It's crazy he's saying " one launcher + 1 50/50" when every character has get off me tools in their kits everyone has to respect. And the universal armor of heat. The problem is he can't just "figure out" Tekken 8 like he could Tekken 7, in this game you can't just lab a character and know 90 percent how to beat them.
50/50's is about guessing not reacting. That's the problem.
That is the whole point of 50/50 buddy
Tekken 8 should be a game in a casino.
The literal champion of tekken right now doesn’t like how the game is played, idk how anyone can speak against that lol. Dude literally beats everyone in the game right now, and doesn’t like it the way it is.
He's just not though? He popped on the scene in Tekken 7, the most defensive, one dimensional, CH string heavy version of the game and spammed back dash and jab with kazumi. He then tier hopped through the DLC characters till the end of T7. Now that people have actual threats other than 2 moves like in T7 all the sudden, "the games bad", "It's just launch and 50/50". Lol T7 was just launch and the round was over so everyone just poked all day and kbd.
@@johnsmith-ol9qj you said a whole lotta nothing right then
A lot of people argue that his opinions on the game are tied to his performance. When he does well he's positive, when he loses it's the complete opposite. I remember at the start of the year when all that Xiaoyu drama happened because Yoredz beat him decisively in a FT10. We had people on twitter seriously wanting to delete entire moves of Xiaoyu's all because of the shitstorm Arslan & Knee caused on twitter after they played him. And now? Nobody cares anymore despite her remaining relatively untouched.
@@johnsmith-ol9qj He won biggest Evo playing T8 and is currently number one in TWT rankings so.
Important context that non-Tekken players in these comments do not have: Arslan had no complaints when he won his EVO. He then made that tweet not an hour after placing 65th. He also has a history of being salty on twitter. The current champion of Tekken is undeniably Ulsan, who has only commented on the matter to make fun of people saying that the TK7 defensive playstyle should come back because it was boring and unfun to watch. This video is just theScore farming controversial titles, not to be taken seriously.
The only way to fix Tekken is to take Tekken force and make it a 4 player party mode.
Never let bro cook again 💀
@KiriNimi mf hates pizza because he's lactose intolerant.
The bottom line is that bad players get tools to beat good players without actually having to be better and games are boring. This is on every level. People who find this fun are the ones benefiting from it.
It’s crazy how people will argue against this when the developers themselves literally said that was a big part of their design for this game lmaooo
They LOVE to claim people are complaining because they suck. If you can't deal with azucena spamming her running attack NON STOP remember that's YOUR problem. If you don't like fighting 3 dragonovs,then a top tier king,followed by 3 Bryan's and 2 more dragonovs then that means YOU need to labe the game more. If you get caught by a super long low from Kuma or feng that's YOUR fault. You too slow😒
@@SuntanXxSuperman tfs bryan doing in there lmao hes nowhere near of any of the rest of the chart and the easily the hardest character
how is this on every level when the same dudes are still winning tournaments??? Yall just yap
@@Tk.Bogarts easy to spam his evo combos. Easy to play up down all game. Trip to kick you soon as you get up uppercut to wall combo to another trip to start al over again. How fun 😒
This is the first Tekken game I simply stopped having fun in and just dropped. 300hrs in and one day I woke up and said “nah there are better fighting games out im done”
See 7 was the only game in the series that i dropped without spending hundreds of hours on.
I dropped T8 at 60 hours. Thousands on the previous games.
I dropped at 100 hours in. I only picked it up again for heihachi and extra story. After I understood his play style, I dropped the game again.
I dropped at 270 hours in 8, i'd rather play Coin Flip sim than this. At least that doesn't force monetization down my throat and does not require a total 180 in mechanics and balance
@@keko1130 thats super impressive i literally dont have enough spare time to spend 1000 on a single game let alone thousand(s).
It’s not like you can remove 50/50s. The game is cooked on a fundamental lvl
Wth not?
@@FUJIN-UCHIHA yeah and you shouldn't remove them either. They're fundamentally needed so you can do damage in a fighting game.
The best answer is just up the movement to something like Tekken 5DR or even just Tag2
@@Dyleniz You guys keep bringing those games up when the balancing there was even worse than today.
@@wantu7816we bring up those games for movement.
Not for balance.
Did you even read what have been said here?
Buff "movement" like those games mentioned
No one said have same balanced "moveset" like those games
Implement "classic mode": No heat; no rage art; no power crushes; sidestep and backdash animation speed increased 5% for all characters. Then slowly promote this mode until it eventually becomes more popular and replaces the "standard" mode.
Nobody is going to miss heat.
Absolutely 💯 agree with this
I had this exact thought the other day.
Terrible, terrible idea.
I like Heat and Rage.
Terrible idea. Split the already fragmented player base?
A key point for 50/50s too is, it's 50% to lose, and 50% to not die. You still have to deal with being in corner and your opponent having MORE buttons.
People hate on arslan and even tho he is a meta h**, he is right. This game is all about 50/50 and guessing. If i wanna guess then i go to a casino. Guessing has nothing to do with skill but rather luck.
6:37 I don't think buying a Map or Character with Tekken Coins is possible 💀💀💀 that would be too easy and convenient since you get a few from that dreaded Fight Pass
It's because most of the The stages are too small. Thanks to heat you'll be carried to a wall within one combo .
Even when you come across another player who is GOOD and/or your level, sets feel too short, WINS feel empty, and losses feel frustrating
So you know why pros played that way with only backdashing and pokes every 10 seconds in T7?
Because one launcher carries you to the wall for most of your health and then one 50/50 mix on oki was enough to finish you off. Funny that
Plus everyone had crazy good CH tools, and sidestepping was terrible.
Ppl forgot this😂😂😂
This. It seems eople who whined about Tekken 7 being too defensive, always forget why it got into that points in the first place.
Just a FYI correction, the Genmaji stage cannot be bought with Tekken Coins. The coins they give are basically for cosmetics only. Stage is still $5.
Another very important correction: they made the stage free and added it to the base game as included compensation, meaning it’s now available for everyone.
@professoremil another VERY very important correction: Only the NEXT dlc stage (that will be released in winter) will be free. You still need to pay for the Heihachi temple stage and like OP said, you cannot use Tekken Coins. 😊
I think the issue isn’t just the 50/50’s it’s the character’s frame data when applying it. When Kazuya ops for oki using FF
4 or Hell sweep, if it is blocked kazuya’s turn is recognizably over and he takes a full combo. Most characters that are top tier never give up their turn while applying their true 50/50s. You’re locked in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. It’s even worse when the opponent is a xiaoyu and every move looks like it can either go mid or low.
This is what happens when Tekken's defensive systems honed over decades get thrown out the window for 'aggresive play' and wider audience appeal. Turns out it's bad for your competitive game if you remove decision making and interaction points from your game.
Tekken 7 is Valid for Long Combos but in Tekken 8 it's Actual Hell. 💀
Bro tekken 7 combos were stupid 💀 they heavily nerfed combos in tekken 8 sure they’re long but the grey health is such a nerf. You could get hit with an 80% combo by someone if you simply tech rolled wrong and they had a wall
@@Sin-pt2eqIn T8 average combo damage is higher
Tag 2 and Tekken 7 while having huge issues that did frustrate me. Both games kept me coming back for their entire lifespan. Tekken 8 is a little over six months in and I don’t play anymore and same goes for my friends who played these games with me from day 1. I truly believe they’ve taken the game into the wrong direction and don’t see people like me as the target audience anymore.
If there were more game modes the problems with the game wouldn't be as in your face since only playing 1v1 24/7 makes it super sweaty
The person tweeting "people yearn for real tekken" is wild, because they don't know what actual Tekken is.
Actual Tekken is sets of fighting interactions that conclude in a round won or lost, not touch of death or wall carries.
The fix is very simple: make heat once per game. And to prevent auto activations on heat engagers make it so you have to hold forward.
6:41 IIRC you can't get that stage with Tekken Coins, only real cash.
Arslan is already a Tekken 8 champion but guys in the comments are saying he's wrong because he lost. The Tekken community is actually unhinged, Every other FGC listens to their GOATS.
100% factually incorrect. There is no fan base that treats their goats as having perfect opinions. Not in strive, street fighter or Mortal Kombat. Stop glazing
not everything arslan says is correct. following blindly just because he's "the goat" is crazy dickriding.
How is Arslan wrong tho? @@Mayhem242
Yeah... He wants Tekken 7 back so he can win more, there are plenty of people that just want to press buttons, it's a game not one person's cash cow so he can win titles over and over. T7 was hella boring and if you want to play "real tekken" there are characters for that. Knee uses Brian. Tekkenicain uses Steve to great effect, there are a lot of people having fun and mastering the game and a small minority being super loud.
@johnsmith-ol9qj your argument is pretty stupid tbh. It's not about him being salty or not winning. Look at his argument. Its absolutely true. The game basically has no neutral, and the 50/50s are just way too much. And its not even that balanced.
About the 500 Tekken coins, you can't actually buy the stage with coins, you still have to pay 5 very big, very real, buckeronis. Please add in a correction, this info is wrong, don't spread misinformation.
As a Feng main, I gotta say the Tekken 7 Feng Wei was much better as compared to the Tekken 8 one, the Character is and was OP no doubt and had almost every desired tool, but the Tekken 7 one was much more Approachable, hitting the combos was much satisfying for me personally.
Bandai Namco should have just let SCVI have their formula to themselves. Copying that made no sense for Tekken. It only works in SCVI because of the length of combos, the more simplistic/shorter command list and difference in weapons.
Just go back, Bamco. Go back. It doesn't mix.
You know I was thinking about that i heard that some of the game devs for SCVI did work on tk8 so that explains everything 🤦🏾
@leonelgarcia2651 Yes. " Project Soul ". Its THEIR fault. Shimbori from " DOA " is also responsible for the stage interactions. Shit, even " Akira " behind the graphics for " Fighting EX Layer " had something to do with how T8 looks and possibly even feels. The meeting they all had together gave birth to what we're dealing with RIGHT NOW.
@leonelgarcia2651 Another cookie crumb on " Project Soul " .... look at some of Yoshimitsu's moves. Look at the nunchucks on Law. Alisa kinda suspect in chainsaw mode. Now look at Victor in GENERAL.
At this point I'd be over the moon for a Tekken 7 remaster
Remove heat, remove long combos, remove bound at the wall, remove lock 50/50 guesses, remove chip damage, remove gaining health, remove Alisa
The most stupid thing about all that fight is that people are listening to top players who only play toptiers vs toptiers.
The most unoriginal comment. This game has become something like league of legends, where every scrub can feel like a winner. Tekken was not about that. Learning a hard character, making decisions on the fly and beating your opponent with skills is way better than this shit. It became greedy, so they want to appeal to a more general audience. Tekken is dying. Because you are scrubs.
Because most of us commenting aren't fucking casuals and care about the state of the game lol
Agreed, in tekken there was always a rewards for learning more and mastering a character, with more grind came a greater reward in tekken, which is devolved in tekken 8@@Max-f3
@@Max-f3 lol this game will only grow ur delusional, its no where near dying and this game isnt scrubby based, the same faces that were champions in t7 are still champions, no scrubby player suddenly showed and beat all the og players, this will never happen, the only problem you all have which you dont realize is with broken characters, not the game in general
I think the problem is Bandai trying to make the game easier, but not really exploring what new players need, instead of that, they decided to just make modification and add mechanics that makes new players skip steps within the game just so they can beat better by abusing the 50/50 without even having to make strategies
Bamco catered to the western audience because the way the asians/pakistani's play the game requires a lot of patience and focus....something the west can't maintain for too long. Look at the character picks in the west compared to that of tge east...Look at tge playstyles...How many times have you seen a western player SS and df2 his opponent like AA or Knee has done regularly..?? Or better yet...Knee vs AA Evo 2019...Kazumi vs DJ....The way AA systematically kept SSL Knee to whiff punish DJ...Have you ever seen a western player that focused..?? Naaah...This game was specifically designed for the west because they were LOSING that battle..!!!
Who wants to play a game where youre just getting juggled for half the time
Enough with the juggle shenanigans
2D has you in a stun animation when you're perform a combo you can't move there basically the same thing but different scenarios stop the CAP
Who would want to play a game where you're literally just back stepping for the entire minute??? At least get some blls to press buttons
Variance its not about the top players can get top 8, its about places those players get a tournament, you cannot have same dominance like tekken 6, tag 2 and tekken 7
Calling a player salty when he won everything there is to win is just NOOB behavior.
Let's not forget that at one point in Tekken 7, they made Kazuya's hellsweep tracking. They really just want to dumb everything down for newbies without sparing a thought to their long time playerbase. At this point, Tekken deserves to die and hopefully be replaced by a 3D fighting game that respects its players.
Knee was saying same day one.
Nah, you guys should be back to Tekken 7. Tekken 8 is a different game.
Scrub spotted
@@azteckjumbie9344 Casual spotted
Tekken 7 sucks balls. Tekken 5DR is the only way.
Tekken 3 is the only true tekken
@@eddy3080Tekken alpha build is the only true Tekken, everyone who likes anything after that (including release version of Tekken 1) is either a scrub or a shill
Harada deserves all the heat for the current stage of the game.
Greed over gameplay at Bamco.
You can’t get the stage still btw.
yeah, i just launched the game to check, it just opens the steam store page with a request for 5€. No option to use the 500 coins anywhere?
Tekken 5 was Peak
100 %
Tekken 5 dr
Bruh this is horrible and the heat combo longevity is definitely hard hitting with the Mishimas because damn once i get launched by them, then they go into heat, I'm cooked like no chance to retaliate, it's just absolutely cheap
it may be too aggressive. they should buff back dashing.
It doesn't matter if the top pro says the game is bad. Punk who is still the best NA Street Fighter 6 player complains about mechanics in 6 because he came from Street Fighter 5 and was a pro in that. Arslan was from Tekken 7 and complains about 8's mechanics. Same deal. These players want the game they fell in love with but are forcing themselves to play the new entries hoping it's the old game. Regardless of this I do think Tekken 8 has some issues though lol
Solid video! This is straight to the point and hammers down what the exact problem with Tekken 8 is right now. Thanks for making this, appreciate people making their voices heard, maybe Bandai will listen and make some drastic changes.
When they said: "Tekken 8 is going to be more agressive". I never imagined that meaning 10-13 second matches because: You guessed wrong!
This has been Tekken for years since Tekken 7 or even Tag 2. I agree but I don’t understand why this is the breaking point now.
Because heat just took it too a whole new level, 7 movement played a much bigger role, and consistently mashing would get you fucked
Because plus frames aren't as prominent as it is now.
@@Nkodtbbut isn’t most fighting games have plus frame heavy mechanics
exactly what i have been thinking. great video and I don't think tekken 8 is perfect either but I have no idea why this is the breaking point either just super perplexing.
Adding in get in for free mechanics, nuking movement, adding even more wall Carry mechanics than screw provided. T7 was bad and by the end we didn’t think it could get worse…. Then it did, anyone saying tekken 7 was too defensive was mad, compared to real legacy tekken like ttt1 movement was a joke in that game too. as a fighting game player i envy the legacy preservation games like CS has.
They shouldn't mixed SCVI's formula into Tekken
It’s the scrub mechanics
T8 is in absolute trash state. Of course, any game is allowed to be broken on release, but sometime in June devs said "no more major balance patching until 2025". And this approach can't be justified by any reasonable human being. They didn't stop adding paid content, mind you.
2:22 core a gaming is the best channel for this stuff
Yessir
This crisis only exists in twitter... far from me to say Arslan is wrong or not legitimate in his observations and complains etc, but Tekken has always been very volatile, that's why matches are best of 5 rounds.
It would be cool if you covered some analysis of how fighting games work every now and then, i imagine it would help everyone who appreciates the genere and follows a bit through channels like this every now and then and also the hosts. 50/50s are not meant to be reacted like you say around 1:45, it's a guess, and that's why it's a 50/50, because it's not about reacting it's a coinflip, you have to READ what the opponent will do
IDK how to tell you that t8 is dead on twitch lol. No one wants to watch this game
@@Bovineicide No one watched T7 either no one watches fighting games on twitch
@@rutherfordium2954 Street fighter 6
@@Bovineicide game being dead or alive can't be measured by twitch viewership when there are literally bath tub streams with millions of viewers. Clearly people on twitch are interested in something else. We should look at steam numbers and it's doing well
I get the feeling that Tekken is writing itself into a corner. Older games didnt need 100+ moves, long combos, or a plethora of stances and mixups to feel fun. I feel like every new Tekken just feels to add MORE moves and LONGER combos and 1up the previous entry without even checking to see if the product has become bloated, which I think it has.
Idk if its a blessing in disguise but I couldn’t afford tekken 8. And now im not going to buy until tekken & is going to be great.
What you have to understand is that Tekken has always been a 2-3 touch game and snowballs easily the reason why tekken 7 was so alow was because you can gey counterhit or low parry randomly and just die after a wallcombo and they made movement so shit while every string had amazing tracking it felt like you were forced to play a 2D game with just backdash and dash forward avoid a counterhit thats the reason why Tekken 8 released with heat what I dont like about T8 is that you can be put into a 50/50 guess more often but not having the tools to like backdash out of shit hurts a lot
Tekken 7 feels like 2d on 3d.
Tekken 8 feels like 3d
My biggest issue is bamco's greed and incapability of giving good updates or balance changes
This dude arslan only tweets stuff when he loses, its wild
He's been saying this since week 3 of T8. If the Evo champion can't complain who can?
you don’t even compete at all
You can't lie with Tekken 8 being a 50/50 guessing game.
And if he tweets tons of stuff of when he wins, you'd just use that as more ammo when he *does lose* and tweet it
Can't ever win on social media, nevermind Twitter
@@dannyrpt Yeah i dont disagree with the goat arslan, just find it funny that he always tweets when he loses 😂
heat should not give safe powercrush on entry, + safe mid launchers and strong mixup options, and then end with a heat smash that gives you mixup on block
if you dont like the game now quit.
no fighter has to my memory received core mechanic changes to a level that would alter the flow of the game in a major way.
Parry, FADC, ABC combos, Roman cancels etc. They might get a little change but that is it. Example with Tekken is heat engagers not tracking anymore. That is likely gonna be it.
If they slow it down to a redactable point it wont work for combos so that aint happening. the best we can hope for is being over -10 on block.
On April Arslan also said:
"I'm tired of complaining about the game. I'm just going to adapt regardless of the meta..."
then one time he complained about his stick, then one time he complained about a tournament on PC. Arslan has been crying since the start of Tekken 8.
I feel people are only repeating what Arslan said and hating on the game because it’s what some pros are doing, tekken 8 is the most fun I’ve had playing tekken since tekken 5
"i like it so that must mean other players are wrong and are only 'repeating what top plyers are saying' "
Most people are npc who don’t have their own opinion. That’s a life.
@@xaevius5319Yes
@@xaevius5319you're just proving his point buddy
So, when other people dislike something, it means they’re wrong and their opinion is unoriginal? Nice logic
You actually can't buy the stage with the coins since the stage is DLC and sold only with real money. The 500 coins can be used towards a fight pass or other microtransactions from the TEKKEN store though
It seems like they forget what made Tekken 7 fun for fans they did not have to add all that mechanic to cater beginners. They sacrificed the real fans who mastered the game fundamentally now pros are getting cooked by new players abusing these mechanics that made the game revolve only on 50/50's. A glorified guessing game.
been saying the same thing since the beta, heat and immense combo damage just encourages this boring guessing game playstyle at all levels because defensive options are so weak now that the only way to win is by blowing the other guy up first
the GOAT has spoken
I flew 3 hours to get to my capital city to catch up with people within my community and play at locals in person, which I don't get to do often because I live remote. In T7 era, there would be a minimum of 10 setups with people queing up to play. I went yesterday for Tekken 8 (which I primarily went to see people, not play the game) and Tekken was relegated to a corner with 4 set-ups with everything else being street fighter and other retro fighters. I was there for 5 hours and people were not queuing to play. Set-ups were vacant, and there was zero hype. Spoke to members of the community only to be told most of the guys I grew up playing T7 stopped playing because they disliked T8. It actually made me sad, but I completely understood it. Were 10 months into the game and the competitive scene in my capital city is already dead. No one cares about this game, and I saw it first hand in my own community.
every character in T8 can wall carry and deal more damage than paul lol. launch punishables in T7 which is understandable, dont work anymore. even behind a character doing strings can instantly turn their face on you 😂
Fantastic video. Very happy the score covers fighting games.
Love you giving shouts to the big tekken youtubers.
Read the notes on PhiDX's video "Knee has solved Tekken 8."
As somebody who - not a Fighting game player altough I am invested in Tekken as a fan - likes to put alot of thought into Game Design that realistically works, I think the first part of the video has some potential for T8's redesign needs. Make aggressiveness more of a neutral, where sidestepping and contesting small frame advantages lead to more smaller combo trades. That way we could have alot of creative player interaction while giving more options to 50/50 without losing the aggressive idenity
Just an inspiration for a thought direction - what would you change/add?
finally a thoughtful comment
Thing is, it's already a thing with T4, even with backdash and sidestep nerfed, the game focused more on mini combos and tracking aren't as fierce as modern game since T6 (T6's tracking is considered tame, you know). EWGF didn't even launch on normal hit, generic launchers generally more linear, CH launches are specialty, juggles are limited and often very hard, only some of them like Lee had better juggles than the others. But of course everybody thinks the game's bad because of it's jankiness and balancing issues, but nobody considers the core gameplay and dismisses T4 entirely.
@@Rylaine Wow thanks for the discourse. What exactly was different in T4?
Im not as familiar with the details, I just grew up messing around in it :P
IN MY OPINION JUST REVERT BACK TO TK7. TK7 IS PEAK TEKKEN. WE NEED MORE TK7 TIER 1 COMPETITION.
Tekken 7 is garbage. If you want actual peak tekken, then play 5DR.
They need to make a no rage art , heat engage, power crush mode.
Tekken Fans: "Game is so unbalanced!!! You always had to deal with 50/50 risks to even play the game!!!"
Master Duel Fans: "You can play the game there???"
I never got into Tekken but 50/50 mix ups? I quit Mortal Kombat 1 because Johnny's mix ups. Thank God I never dedicated myself to this game.
Don't try to capitalize on senseless negativity!
Lifelong Tekken player here. The game is just trash. They dropped the ball on this one. I could go on for hours about all the things wrong with it but in general it's just bad mechanics. Heat sucks, the aggressive philosophy isn't fun, the micro-transactions and heartless actions of the money hungry namcops are all just getting to be too much. The games just not fun. I agree with Arslan, it legitimately makes your mood worse and makes you feel bad. There's no fixing this... they're in too deep.
I never thought I'd be playing SF6 more than Tekken 8 this gen of fighting games.
And this is how AK thrived on this game.
people really think winning in a fight game is scummy noobs
Going full attack was always going to be an huge unbalanced direction for the game in long term. Tekken needs more defensive play style to be balanced, nerfing characters won’t save it unfortunately
No Josie Rizal, that explains the crisis itself
This guys face looks like Escanor from 7 deadly sins 😂
Some of these paid DLC options like characters and stages really confuse me. I feel like I recall years ago them saying "Tekken is like chess, and if you have to pay extra for new pieces on your chess board then you're playing at a disadvantage" and for that reason they were never going to charge for stages and characters, only cosmetic stuff.
Tekken community: we only listen to the pros. If you aint a pro your opinion dont count
The best tekken player: i dont like this game
Community: shut up! What do you know?!
This community is so toxic. The game is toxic too. Arslan is the GOAT. And hes 1,000% right
Goat? who cries if he doesnt dominates the game? such a bullshit.
@@ThelongWatchesshould we ignore people's opinions, regardless of how reasonable they are, if they're not popular?
6:42 you cannot buy the genmaji temple with the coins. You still have to purchase it with real money. They basically gave everyone store credit because the stage is $5.
Have to at least make heat burst not hit mid-air. Then you at least don't get an extra 20 damage from a launcher into oki with heat. Even better to remove it. Then if you choose an i14 or i15 baseline for a heat engager it becomes a variant launcher that gives you a single OP mixup. If damage is still too high reduce every launcher to a tornado during heat.
Or just have heat burst return you to neutral whether on hit or block. At least it would just function as an escape tool rather than either stealing a turn or getting a full combo.
Jesus this is the only video where i was givin backshot ads. 8 normally
Tekken becoming mainstream is like a nightmare. Tekken 5 was the peak. Now its corporate greed. So sad
2:40 "Your opponent gets about two chances to play the game." hmmm where have i heard this before? oh yeah when I was learning to play Tekken 7 in December last year in anticipation for Tekken 8. funny how things change they really stay the same.
See the difference there is that game had a 7 at the end, and this one has an 8. They're not being hypocrites
I have a few ideas. Heat should have a longer bar and you can turn it on and off but it never recharges through all rounds. Having heat through every fight you can always be aggressive but this would add some strategy to it.
Consider a breaker system that will make your character drop straight to the ground during a combo like MK. And it would use a chunk of heat as well making it a defensive tool as well as offensive.
Arslan is not the "Greatest Of All Time" Buddy. He is the Greatest Of Recent Times.
Sorry but if you win like 5 Evos, I think he can be considered as one of the best
He is the GOAT without any objection.
@@Matt_Underwood I said he is one of the best. Stop twisting my words
Only way to fix this is to make StarCraft Broodwar the world's #1 game again
Me, a strike-throw game player:
I see, I see (I don’t understand it at all).
5:26 Devil jin before tekken 8 was considered one of the best picks for playing a mishima, cuz he's more into jack of all trades mishima, good jab, good low, his damage were ok, no gimmick moves, good panic move(u+4), etc (excluding tekken 7 last season patch, cuz he's bad). But in tekken 8, he's in his most pathetic state ever, considered as the worst mishima. And you're expecting a NERF for Devil jin in this patch?
A nice system change would be letting players choose between Heat and Rage system. Having both available every round is too much.
Man the state of tekken was the same the game started lol. Arslan is the one who spoke about the state then questioning it because of how simple it was. Then magically changed his mind and said he was enjoying tekken lol.
the fix is relatively simple, remove some of the heat mechanics, nerf them really hard or remove it all together
Thank god i didnt buy it! i was skeptic at first, and had a bad feeling about this game.
Anyone remember Tag 2? How awesome Namco was? How Tekken made a statment about giving out most of the content for free? what the fuck happend here?! I would MUCh rather play Tag 2 then this garabage! how can they fuck up tekken so bad?!
Double the health, prolongs the game and 1 launcher wont end the game