Archer armies need a high level POTM. it's an absolute must. in 3v3 potm Archer is practically a guaranteed win. with a lvl 3 trueshot aura, and max upgrades, the archers are doing nearly 40 damage a shot, outclassing any other ranged in DPS, and in range.
The huge downside of archer that it quickly dies to AoE and magic spells, Dryad, on other hand has spell inmunity and with bears it becomes a good force.
Hey, that tee cup is the same as traditional tea cups in Ukrainian trains, that were in use until few years ago. It's kinda metal holder for a glass, so you don't burn your hands. It goes since soviet union time. Sorry if there are any mistakes in my English =)
POTM earlier, roar, and a bit more protection for Grubby's heroes and this was an easy GG. Even with just 1 of these things, not 3. Guess he wanted to make it harder for himself, or got overconfident. GG nonetheless! I fully expect to see this strat tried out more and showing more success. It's too good!
@@RiffandRoll. nope. Watch nearly any pro NE game on Back2Warcraft and you'll see. Archers and Huntresses are the only real reason NE is even competitive because of their (relatively) weak lategame tech options. Dryads and MG's are the only other units I've ever seen recently and I've been watching a lot of Moon and Lawliet games. Good micro makes archers powerhouses.
@@RiffandRoll. nah taurens are gonna get sniped with keeper + alchemist's spells (entangle + acid bomb) and focus fire from all units, Huntresses can tank some damage by upgrading their armor + using scroll of protection, and wisps... thanks to mass wisps, they can burn the caster's mana. What you said is true but it would take some powerful harass and a good early game start to ever reach those ideal levels + build but it has a quick answer to it. If you can surprise the night elf army (which is very unlikely due to mass wisps scout) then its possible i guess.
not a wc3 pro anything but i believe not every unit is supposed to be relevant at late game. Just switch to another unit or upgrade them to hippo riders or someshit.
I remember somebody saying when it comes to RTS's range units always end up becoming the best and then I say this how is it that night elf primarily a ranged army big unit just so happens to be melee
Hmm. Maybe, if you had druids of claw for roar plus heroes healing and/or Priestess of the moon with aura as second hero. To overcome fragility of archers, through high damage. And Alchemist as third hero, if you use him just for healing. It would be alot better strategy. Still good try Grubby.
22:50 because mass archer probably worst in late especially against Undead... Just imagine if they had greater gold and summoned mass skeleton (Necromancer and Meat Wagon) and sacrificed each skeleton to refill lich mana... 😂😂😂
Yes, the heroes alone are a counter no matter what you build as undead. You can go gargoyle and still win against mass archer as long as you got that aoe hero nuke.
if you're wondering why does he play best with it, well he is a big fan of hit and run tactics, and orc's allow you to have that advantage due to having access to pillage. That style of play is what made him a champion in his competitive career. Now, a lot of balancing patches happened over the years and that style is not that popular recently but he is quick to adapt and can even help to dictate the new meta game for orcs.
Orcs are also the most fun to play. Grubby said it once, with all other races, you are usually forced into the same army and hero compositions. Undead just goes hero nuke with DK, Lich, etc., plus statues and mixture of fiends/ghuouls/aboms. NE goes DH or Keeper plus either huntresses or bears and dryads. Human goes fast expand usually and AM with either MK or Pally, and sorcs/priests plus either tier 3 air or melee units. But Orc, has so much variety. Can go any first hero and still be competitive. Can have any army composition. Full trolls? Check. Shamans plus upgraded grunts? Check. Tauren plus spirit walker revives? Check. Plus raiders, batriders, windriders...there is no Orc army unit that just plain sucks or is irrelevant (besides being countered ofc); so Orc games are always fresh and variety. This plus pillage is I think why Grubby likes Orc so much.
@@Christoff070 in NE vs NE you can play potm mass hunt and glaive. In Ne vs orc the meta is mass hunt and then mass archers with keeper and alchimiste. Vs orc the Ne can also play talons or driades mg. Vs human the meta is warden tinker on most of the maps. You can also play keeper Naga potm with three orbs and MG, all in mass hunts. In FFA the normal play is Dr /panda /potm or dh/panda/potm or dr/panda/keeper... with mass hipo and chimera with one bears and two talons. Human also have many srats.
@@009_Ghostly_Systematic NE are also hit and run through use of range, poison and moon wells. They are also very micro intensive though like strategies that involve archer, or massing talons only really work if you have good micro.
Is it me or has the amout of commercials in your videos incrased? If this keeps up I am honestly considering switching to some other wc3 content provider, as I cant click the commercials away if i am doing chores as i usually do when i watch your vids. Just wanted to give you a heads up in case others feel the same.
This game, I will make Archers.
Not enough imo
Love archers, such high damage
Thats cool and all but, are you going to be making glaives in the next video doe?
20:48 is my keeper in every game.... makes treants in a useless stuck position, proceed to dance forward into ud nuke xD
Crypt Lord : Don't cry Grubby, you can try next time... 😁😁😂😂 with those BITCH OF THE NIGHT ELF... 😂😂😂
Keeper lvl5 is dead. Alchemist lvl4 retreats. POTM lvl1 be like: trust in my command
and grubby be like " Yea, you're in charge now" and leaves the game.
"Sometimes I think this tea cup is the most interesting thing about me"
Well that's a mood
I laughed out loud at that comment, self affirmations grubz
Archer armies need a high level POTM. it's an absolute must.
in 3v3 potm Archer is practically a guaranteed win. with a lvl 3 trueshot aura, and max upgrades, the archers are doing nearly 40 damage a shot, outclassing any other ranged in DPS, and in range.
The huge downside of archer that it quickly dies to AoE and magic spells, Dryad, on other hand has spell inmunity and with bears it becomes a good force.
@@codeblue1517archers are cheaper and easier to produce than dryads though.
Archers do so much damage.
My micro is too bad for them to stay alive.
Wouldn''t Elune's Grace be an impactful upgrade vs the magic damage your archers are taking en masse?
Where is roar and a priestess? Feel like it would have been so viable here
Still very entertaining to watch. Any NE game is awesome ^^
As terrible a this idea is, you can still see the anguish in his eyes of defeat.
So sad.
Hey, that tee cup is the same as traditional tea cups in Ukrainian trains, that were in use until few years ago. It's kinda metal holder for a glass, so you don't burn your hands. It goes since soviet union time. Sorry if there are any mistakes in my English =)
8/10, needs more archers
Nice haha I do this sometimes, upgrades for the archers are so important! I love your content man, I love this game!
Please more NE games!!
10:36 that block made me laugh)
POTM earlier, roar, and a bit more protection for Grubby's heroes and this was an easy GG. Even with just 1 of these things, not 3.
Guess he wanted to make it harder for himself, or got overconfident.
GG nonetheless! I fully expect to see this strat tried out more and showing more success. It's too good!
Tall order, well played
Archers need a little buff in late game, Marksmanship should also alow them to shoot arrows a bit quicklier
not according to the NE vs ORC meta. Archer's are completely overwhelming for the orcs, accompanied it with Huntresses.
@@009_Ghostly_Systematic even at late game?, stomp + chain lighting + taurens should work easily
@@RiffandRoll. nope. Watch nearly any pro NE game on Back2Warcraft and you'll see. Archers and Huntresses are the only real reason NE is even competitive because of their (relatively) weak lategame tech options. Dryads and MG's are the only other units I've ever seen recently and I've been watching a lot of Moon and Lawliet games. Good micro makes archers powerhouses.
@@RiffandRoll. nah taurens are gonna get sniped with keeper + alchemist's spells (entangle + acid bomb) and focus fire from all units, Huntresses can tank some damage by upgrading their armor + using scroll of protection, and wisps... thanks to mass wisps, they can burn the caster's mana.
What you said is true but it would take some powerful harass and a good early game start to ever reach those ideal levels + build but it has a quick answer to it. If you can surprise the night elf army (which is very unlikely due to mass wisps scout) then its possible i guess.
not a wc3 pro anything but i believe not every unit is supposed to be relevant at late game. Just switch to another unit or upgrade them to hippo riders or someshit.
12:43 wisp OP
21:07 oof
That was oddly satisfying. I say that as someone who often goes TC with shockwave.
YEEEAAAH! Night Elf game!
Slaughterhouse? Indeed
I remember somebody saying when it comes to RTS's range units always end up becoming the best and then I say this how is it that night elf primarily a ranged army big unit just so happens to be melee
Hmm. Maybe, if you had druids of claw for roar plus heroes healing and/or Priestess of the moon with aura as second hero. To overcome fragility of archers, through high damage. And Alchemist as third hero, if you use him just for healing. It would be alot better strategy. Still good try Grubby.
what about one bear for roar, and one or two mg to tank the abom and avoid disease cloud
22:50 because mass archer probably worst in late especially against Undead... Just imagine if they had greater gold and summoned mass skeleton (Necromancer and Meat Wagon) and sacrificed each skeleton to refill lich mana... 😂😂😂
Yes, the heroes alone are a counter no matter what you build as undead. You can go gargoyle and still win against mass archer as long as you got that aoe hero nuke.
Follow Grubby!
Imagine playing a pub and matching against grubby
15:37 "My gameplan this game is Archers". That's a horrible strat... unless you're Grubby.
Hey Grub, why do you think you play best as orc?
if you're wondering why does he play best with it, well he is a big fan of hit and run tactics, and orc's allow you to have that advantage due to having access to pillage. That style of play is what made him a champion in his competitive career. Now, a lot of balancing patches happened over the years and that style is not that popular recently but he is quick to adapt and can even help to dictate the new meta game for orcs.
Orcs are also the most fun to play. Grubby said it once, with all other races, you are usually forced into the same army and hero compositions. Undead just goes hero nuke with DK, Lich, etc., plus statues and mixture of fiends/ghuouls/aboms. NE goes DH or Keeper plus either huntresses or bears and dryads. Human goes fast expand usually and AM with either MK or Pally, and sorcs/priests plus either tier 3 air or melee units. But Orc, has so much variety. Can go any first hero and still be competitive. Can have any army composition. Full trolls? Check. Shamans plus upgraded grunts? Check. Tauren plus spirit walker revives? Check. Plus raiders, batriders, windriders...there is no Orc army unit that just plain sucks or is irrelevant (besides being countered ofc); so Orc games are always fresh and variety. This plus pillage is I think why Grubby likes Orc so much.
bc be plays the most orc, and choose to main orc because orc vs orc is the most enjoyable mirror match, so i remember hearing
@@Christoff070 in NE vs NE you can play potm mass hunt and glaive. In Ne vs orc the meta is mass hunt and then mass archers with keeper and alchimiste. Vs orc the Ne can also play talons or driades mg. Vs human the meta is warden tinker on most of the maps. You can also play keeper Naga potm with three orbs and MG, all in mass hunts. In FFA the normal play is Dr /panda /potm or dh/panda/potm or dr/panda/keeper... with mass hipo and chimera with one bears and two talons. Human also have many srats.
@@009_Ghostly_Systematic NE are also hit and run through use of range, poison and moon wells. They are also very micro intensive though like strategies that involve archer, or massing talons only really work if you have good micro.
why no bear druid :(
22:35
Is it me or has the amout of commercials in your videos incrased? If this keeps up I am honestly considering switching to some other wc3 content provider, as I cant click the commercials away if i am doing chores as i usually do when i watch your vids. Just wanted to give you a heads up in case others feel the same.
Two adds in 20+ min. You can literally fast forward like 10-20 seconds. Yes. It is just you
@@saltypretzelcb5411 i can't, that is tje thing. It gets stuck at the yrllow line
Lawliet, back to warcraft, Warcraft3 art FFA master league make very good videos.
stardreamer187 can’t you skip it after a couple of seconds. If anything grubby gets more revenue if you just watch the add.
"content provider" lol
I cannot play this quick!
Can always tell when Grubby loses. He gets more than 10 thumbs down.
how can skellies and 2 heros do that much damage lol
gj
Grubby kind of fell apart there , sad
Hey Grubby, how can I get that addon that has the ping, score, and timer.. I need that.
is this HD version? I mean remastered?
no
Wow
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