8.3 Cummins Threw a Rod in a Combine [EP1]
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- What do you do with a Case IH 2366 combine when the engine throws a rod?
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As a farmer, I lmao-ed at your description of a farmer. Praying for rain, praying for sun, praying for rain and sun. Praying for the rain to stop. Yup thats pretty much it in a nutshell.
Knew the feeling when I was in construction.
That donor truck used to deliver wood shavings to my farm
I was thinking of a 5.9 swap but I now know it’s clear that I’ve gotta have a 8.3 in my s10
Itd be hard enough to fit and support a 5.9 in a s10 to begin with.
chase webber i have a old Nissan kingcab 2,5 liter turbo diesel in my 99 s10 and that mechanical engine is taking up 97% of the engine bay so I don’t se how you would fit a 5,9 in there?
@@lucassvedlund3851 I dont believe I said u could. Most definitely not a 8.3 lmao.
BS give me a torch, a welder, and some metal. We can make it fit. It might not be pretty but she'll fit alright lol
What kind of a wimp are you? Go straight to a N14. Now THAT's displacement!
Thank god the starter survived. Now all we need is a whole new motor and we can save the starter!
Sam Kowalski well if he didn’t have a starter he would have to order one or wait to buy one. Makes it easier to have a good one on hand
@@reverandhale863 whoosh !! 🙄😂
Lol modern day intelligence I guess? Haha.
Reverand Hale LOL. Do you by chance vote Democrat too?
That is a world record, two engines pulled and head pulled in seventeen minutes plus eleven seconds to introduce everyone, I couldn't pressure wash one in that time/LOL. I am looking forward to this finish..... painted, air conditioning charged with a tag on the engine that says Deboss Rebuild!!
No movie magic. You are right, this was a live stream!
@@DEBOSSGARAGE The magic off UA-cam.
Combine engines are great in trucks. My dad used to have a 1988 GMC 2500 squarebody. It was a huge truck, 3+3 with a long bed. Only a 2WD but that's all we need. He pulled a 6.354 out of an old Dodge medium duty truck and put it in the GMC. My neighbour has about 4 White combines and a couple White tractors with the same engine, just a different injection pump. That truck kept going when other trucks would have been dead for years. We finally got rid of it after it had a slight issue. Went to get a load of hay, before we left it sounded really bad but we were only going a couple blocks so we went anyways. Checked the compression when we got back, 0 compression on one hole and 250 psi on the rest. Rebuild spec is 400 psi. After that we got a 94 F250 with a 7.3 IDI, it sucked. Now we have a 98 Ram 2500 with a 12v. It's pretty nice.
Fantastic video Rich, love all the different machines that you get into and share on the channel.
Finally Cummins is putting inspection windows in the blocks!
Nice. Just got done parting a sterling 3406e last week.
We where after the frame rails to put in another truck. Tough but interesting work.
Buy yourself a pneumatic rivet buster they are icing on the cake alongside the torch for demolition
JB Weld that block, hammer that cam shaft straight again, toss in an unobtanium connecting rod and a couple new piston pull-back springs and she'd be up and running again.
I really enjoy the way you edit your videos and your judicious use of time lapse.
That combine has been sitting for more than the summer, or they just never clean the thing, they don't get that nasty in a season. Also never understood why they run the engine so fast in those combines, everything is ran off a gearbox so some re-gearing would bring the engine RPMs back to a safe speed and still run the machine correctly.
They run at the RPM where peak-power is being put out. There's nothing inherently unsafe about it, unless it's not being maintained or used properly, which was certainly the case with that Combine. The engine was literally set up to run at that RPM pretty much all the time. The only real fault I can find with that setup is the lack of a push-pull fan setup. The A-Pump setup can be problematic, but it's not impossible to keep an A-Pump equipped engine going. It just needs more care than its P-Pump equipped brethren. More gear-reduction = more torque multiplication, so running the engine at peak-power and heavily reducing it is the only way to go. In basic terms, it's the same kind of thing you would see with any other kind of industrial machinery, like bulldozers, scrapers and excavators, for instance. With the engine running at peak-power through multiple reduction stages, you can literally move mountains.
In actually they run at about 2200-2400 rpm, but they're not like a truck that goes through gears and cruises at a lower rpm despite maxing at around 3000, they run that rpm alllll day, they just sit there and drive a hydraulic drive right off the crank that powers everything, they need to be very meticulously maintained to keep running correctly. Source: i have a 2366 on the farm i work, and we just had a spline shaft sheer the teeth off they hydraulic pump because it was never greased, thank christ there is an intermediary between the crank and the pump. Also worth noting, hydraulic pump, hydrostatic drive.
@@MFKR696 I´m guessing they just did what he described to kill the engine, with pinching the waste gate line off. The jeezless diaphragm box is the worst thing ever. I don´t know how many of these I´ve changed on our coop until we ultimately got new bines and tractors. As Rich said, they come faulty from the factory...
Da vid I never knew they where hydrostatic no wonder there so damn loud driving down the road
@@nolanmitchell7319 Just the easiest way of getting something driving slowly while still maintaining engine power to run all the implements.
Before you go cutting the cam gear try the wooden dowl trick. Get 12-1/2" round dowels and tap them into all the lifters. Then pull up on each cylinders pair of lifters and rubber band them up. When all 12 are up the cam pulls right out
We had that happen to a forage harvester where I used to work. It didn't help that the Mercedes engine was very slightly modified from the truck version (so a replacement was pricey) and turned up from 400 to 500hp (at the factory). My old boss is still using the con rod as a paperweight.
I'm stoked. I've got a 97 freightliner Fl70 with the 8.3 Cummins and a 6 speed. Truck is real reliable way better then the other FL70 we got with the 3126 CAT
cool that had the ventilated crankcase option.
little JB Weld should have that thing running good as new
We just did the head gasket in our 2366 this summer. The 8.3 is notorious for head gasket issues. I would bet that was the underlying cause of the rod deciding to leave.
to me it looks like oil starvation. If Rich said what happened to it, I missed it.
@@Zach-ju5vi very likely. We noticed ours was starting to go when we found water in the oil. We caught it soon enough.
I've only seen 2 8.3s have catastrophic failures. Not sure why it would be considered common. And if you're overheating you probably need to clean out the rad, coolers, and put new brushes on the rotary air screen.
Looking forward to the next episode ! Good job, guys ! 👍🏻👌🏻😎
hell yeah. DEBOSS is the best
Interesting, didn't think about being able to use hydraulics to run the steering to pull dead machines. Great info!
On the cooling side you should see if there's a coolant bypass for the rear (#6 cylinder) of the block. Cummins made them for the b-series, there's also aftermarket ones too. Also a waterless coolant could be an improvement & worthwhile.
I've got a use for that hydraulic PTO!!! I'm building a 4x4 rig and want to be able to power hyd. accessories.
having pulled a cotton picker backwards before I can guarantee the 3 guys in the picker cab trying to steer it would of loved the hydraulic line idea.
Good stuff. Happy Motoring and Happy Combine ing.
If Rich can't do it , it can't be done. Take Care be Safe.
Casey from O'Neils in Binbrook probably sold it to him new or new/used.
Use the pto to spin a generator just saying
The commentary,
Is epic !
Hey Rich i like your idea about the pto driven 4x4 you may be able to change the gear reduction on the pto and make it work. I would like to see if you can make it work.
Check input shaft on PTO housing seen splines have wear and wear on the end of shaft for pilot bearing
you really get your use out of that 5" milwuakee engine removing tool, maybe a comparison with the new 6" if you can get your hands on it
I want to see a 8.3 swapped truck.
Use the chandelier chain to pull the combine boss!
Just put tiny tires on the front axle!!!
(to compensate the speed difference)
Good video guys
Disassemble a 6.7 ford today come to find out the rocker arms and pushrods separated and found out that the plastic device tasked with holding my damn lifters inline with my damn camshaft broke so now it turns into a total dissemble, heads, front to camshaft, lifters, rocker arm sets because they wore and dropped the ball bearing that it runs on which I thought was the original problem. When I looked down in the pushrod area I knew that it was over. The lifters had ejected the tips on the individual lifters where my pushrods had thrown off and of coarse the lifters had turned on a roller cam and we now what that means. Sorry for the ramble. I like working On bigger engines.
Good day I am not even a half ass mechanic but I was at a generator place & there was a 4 cyl. cummins sitting there with hole on side of motor #4 cyl & cam shaft was broke same way, kinda odd. Good video Thanks
2366 is a extremely good machine
My brother bought a 1680 with the 466 that had been ran low coolant and turns out the intake manifold had a huge hole rotted in it also. Rebuilt and it burnt a month ago hes gonna have to pull it 8 or 10 miles like u just did.
I could use that pump!
Not gonna lie in November I had to put a rebuilt rear in our 650 dump. When they said it chattered in 4 wd I was like fuuuuuu. Eh well next time I'll check the ratio first. I was just happy it was the rebuild shop f-up not mine
Is there a way to add a couple psi of boost and gear the Combine up so it could run less rpms and not break?
Did a swap like this on a hyster due to the operator not refitting the dipstick
Where the hell are you in canada? It looks so green
What was that orange tractor in the first intro clip? Was it an Allis Chalmers or no?
Uncle Rodney, heh. I've never heard that one before
Why is overheating a problem? Why don't they fix it?
You know if Jenn watches this, she's gonna here ya Kevin! 15:40
GM trucks best on the planet!
I clicked and I watched then I subbed.
You will not regret that decision
They scrapped that truck because of a dead starter? That’s nuts.
Uncle Rodney 🤣🤣🤣
How many hours were on the combine engine?
6500-7000 iirc
"Uncle Rodney" :-)
interesting video thank you
Why is that left front tire on backwards?
The good one was already repurposed. Or its so you can drive out of a hole when you are stuck easier in reverse. You decide the proper answer
Uncle Rodney
Liked, subscribed.
What size stacks did you put on the international service truck
Hey Rich. Can you say Hi to Kevin for me? We went to high school together. Haven't seen him in 20 years.
Ok before I continue watching this video please tell me the f250 7.3 swap is going to happen soon?
No, the 3126 Caterpillar F350 swap is happening soon. After the C10 is running and moving. The CAT is getting rebuilt right now
I’m sure you could have unbolted the knocked rod, patched up the hole in the block with some bits and bobs and a tube of liquid metal and have a usable 5 cylinder running the same day. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👍👍👍
Kind of a potentially stupid hypothetical question here... Say the engine was running for the sake of the argument. If they mounted a large electric fan on the front of the rad to create a push-pull setup, wouldn't that help it run at closer temps to how it would run while moving?
What's the torque on that? 17ft#? Right?
That's clearly why it blew a hole. 18ft or nothing!
That is one poorly maintained combine. The owner must be proud!!
"... she's been ridden hard and put away wet". lol
Always something isn't there
Tha could be cool if you used a John Deere engine for swap in a truck.... I'm doing that on my Dodge Ram 1500 2004. :D
12:27, was that bucket slowly lowering on it's own?
That is the auto lower feature only found on older models. Helps when installing parts by yourself
is that an old Fiat tractor at minute 7:20?
Man that thang looks neglected
14:47 Goedzo ? :-)
Yep, watch the latest q&a session where he mentions he's been to the Netherlands for a while. Well, he says Holland but he's Canadian so he's probably sorry.
@@Torchedini yeah I've seen that. but I thought it was his buddy saying it.
Neighbour...he is as far away, as two average cities or a few more towns in Germany from each other.
coolant hose halfway Kinkt and radiator full of junk exploded too bad there's no video of Chaos haa
Ya sure do keep busy lol.
Could I fit combine in bed of my 93 Tacoma?
Probably but make sure you don't have the header attached
On what planet did you find a 93 Tacoma. They didn’t even make the Toyota Tacoma in 93. I think it was just called a pick up back then. Didn’t they start Tacoma’s in 1995.
The 8.3s are not that great in trucks ether the bottom ends are at their limit at 300to350 hp the rod bearing are to small compare them to a dt466 which is less displacement and usually lower rated hp the dts are alot bigger also the rod itself is a lot stronger and the block is a lot stiffer
obsolete isn't a bad thing and a lot of us don't need babied so the lack of OSHA approved bullshit is irrelevant. Why so many of us prefer the old iron.
That red thing your looking at is junk!
“Hey boss - the Ford needs a new start....”
“Scrap it. Those starters must cost like 250 bucks.”
Yeah... I didn’t actually call the starter store on that price. Kinda just spitballed it off the cuff there. Always glad to be corrected though.
@die warlock how much is it? $300?
@die warlock the starter itself can be found for 189 for a DB electrical off amazon. I quote that brand because I Have experience with it for starters and alternators. Now labor would likely be costly.
No kidding that looked like a perfectly good truck :/
@@pospc2 why?
2 minutes in and this series already sounds like fun
So often when I watch Deboss I ask my self. Am I even a mechanic?
Am I even a man?
Just what I need. Another existential crisis.
😂😂
You are not alone mate.
Great comments like that remind us of all the humor, fun, and good will that still fills this world. (We just have to crawl out of the tool box once in a while and laugh)
If you need a crisis in your life, watch Project Binky. Then you start thinking that you have the means to rebuild cars because you own a kettle and some biscuits. The phrase "How hard could it be?" starts circulating around your skull. Soon, you buy an old piece of junk and leave it sitting in your backyard for six months because you don't have a shed to work on it. But, I'm not having a mid-life crisis. You have them when you turn 40. I'm 53.
Even I have never "dropped" a motor. What
You can watch all the hydraulics leaking on the timelapse lol
I got a kick out of that too. Great use of time lapse
Love these farm equipment jobs. Wish could have seen the Versatile tractor engine swap!!
That steering hackup is both extremely ghetto and genius. I can see why it was a scary one haha
Late to the game Rich, we did this to a 2144 and a 5.9 a year ago 😉 with help from your videos of course. Thanks for all you do!
15:40 We all know that feeling... somehow my lady can hear the sound of a beer opening in my hand anywhere within 50km and the call comes within 30 seconds of that.
TheCanadianBubba that's funny, I thought I was the only one with that problem.
My old lady has the same keen sense of hearing. Its amazing from 100km away she hears a Blue Star pop and phone rings " Wadda at? Your not sittong around your buddy's shed doing nothin' all day, again, are you?" Yet when I need a towel from the closet because is freakin February she never seems to hear me. Odd innit?
Oh just to hear the audio bleeps when y’all were going down the road with two people steering 😊😊😊
I warned him that if he took the corner too wide, he would hit my gas meter and we would both blow up. Too bad it didn't make the cut. I think it was too loud in the cab
That Uncle Rod is a party pooper 😂
I've learned so much from your channel. I've been watching for 2 and a half years and I've watched the 5.9 Cummins rebuild series like 8 times lol. Great content and I'm sure this series will be good as well
That mx 110 brings back good memories. The mx series case were a solid platform. Best day on the farm is when we found out McCormick bought the rights and started making them again...
Totally agree
Always a fun video when tractors are involved. Thanks Rich, looking forward to part II cheers
Am I the only one who noticed the hydraulic cylinder on the forklift boom loosing pressure.
Its not excessive tho,not worth fixing it at this point
That's the auto lower feature for when you install the engine by yourself
@@DEBOSSGARAGE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍
Judging from the dirty condition of the combine my money says that engine failure was caused by lack of maintenance
Doesn't matter how well you maintain it a combine is always going to get dirty from all the dust it produces.
@@maxwellolson8580 I understand it getting dirty. Comes with the territory but that is pure neglect
Typical farmer. Give no fucks then whinge when it breaks
Matt Lockart how dumb are you city’s bitches
maxwell olson just spend 30 seconds with a leaf blower everyday when your servicing it
Use the PTO for a Generator 🤔
Thanks again for being in my video Rich! I love the heavy equipment content. For anyone wondering Rich and Aaron are exactly as cool in real life.
"uncle Rodney came over and said hello" lololol
He knocks loudly when he comes over.
Other guy: my forklift want go that high
DEBOSS: hold my torque wrench.
Haha Nice 👍
This is honestly tickling my fancy! Great swap. Can't wait to see how she runs
I had a thought once, combine engines have the worst life. They sit and sit and usually never get run for 10-11 months out of the year, then they are fired up and run wide open under full load for 16 hours a day lol. Had this thought while I was feeding ether into an 860 Massey to get her running for the season lol
Hahaha I'm glad I'm not to only one running old shitty equipment, those Perkins engines are damn tough thought.