My friend just mentioned this to me the other day. She was like, why is Rihanna constantly linked with these colorist men..something about that seems weird
Weird or simply she a colorist apologist herself. She's been put on a pedestal her whole life for being an ambiguous island gyal, like ofc she knows she would've never had this career and success with men if not for her fair complexion
@April wow.....why must people always consider ds bw bitter😑 when literally we just point out factors and patterns that we see over and over again. hell we get treated LESS THAN just because of our darker tone come on now. hell even some light skin black women SEE the nonsense that dark skin black women go through and empathize with us because THEY KNOW its not right for us to go through what we go through. It’s not about not being someone’s preference its about being treated with the same respect as other people.
@April that back handed comment wasnt necessary either “there are plenty of people who would settle for you anyway” now would you tell a dark skin woman whos a friend that? thats if you have any ds girlfriends but even if you didn’t imagine if you did.
@April lol no one said she wasn't talented. It's funny how black people can turn on you when it's colorism 😂 Human beings are so selfish. If the topic were racism, we would all be unitedly speaking against it, but now that it is something you benefit from, dark women are "bitter." Funny you chose a word that is used to silence ALL black women. Human beings, bruh 😂 Never surprised.
Hello Y’all, I’m 62yr, I was the darkest skin girl of my immediate family. My uncle, mother’s brother called me “Blackie” hardly ever my name. I felt Colorism as a young child. No one stopped him. My mother didn’t have love for me even though she birthed me, like I was damaged goods. That effected me ALL my life. Even though generally, I’ve been relatively successful in life, this issue has followed me in life...family, friends, dating, marriage, early school, college and adulthood. I was the “good one”. I had be, Life lived well, now at my age I don’t give AF about it anymore. However, I deeply appreciate that we’re finally taking this issue out the closets. Thank you🥰
thank you so much for writing this. I find this perspective to be very enlightening and affirming because it shows that it doesn't matter the age, colorism is something that will prevail our whole lives. thank you for sharing this story, and I can relate to feeling like you have to be perfect because of colorism. thank you for this perspective Miss Jones!
@@mayowasworld Thank You my Dear! I am so proud of you and other young Black women who are stepping out/up with courage and integrity to speak up and expose this generational trauma within our community. It’s generational, and so ingrained in our psyche that we intuitively just “suck it up”. You give me great hope for the future! Plus you make me smile with presentation, you’re Beautiful inside and out! Good mental health is not a given. Much Love Sis💖
I am so so sorry you went through that! That is just terrible and heartbreaking. Im so happy you are doing well now. thank you so much for talking about your story! I'm 17 and I have been learning so much these past years and i feel very comfortable in my skin and blessing myself with self love! Im so happy you rose above that! I am wishing you love and all the best ❤️❤️✨✨
@@princess-sn4dw My dear Alexandra, Thank you for your well wishes. YOU give me great hope for the future of OUR community! You have your head on straight. My younger self says “I want to be like her”! This world can be a scary place, however it is also an amazing, bountiful, beautiful place. Please continue to live with honesty, love, humility, integrity, compassion and grace, with yourself and others. Please continue to love you. Not Blindly, stay focused, especially when vetting Wise council. Education is important, it teaches you skills that you weren’t born with, these days look to life from a global perspective. Don’t fall for the social media “okey doke” I envy your your youth! Act responsibly. Life will give you ups and downs, in and outs, never give up on yourself! I see great things for you in the future! I love and feel your spirit. Take good care my Dear! Peace and Blessings! 💖💕🎉🔥🥰😘
@@corettejones Miss jones, I adore you and your wisdom with my entire heart❤️ I almost cried because of how beautiful your words of encouragment were for me! I know your younger self is smiling looking at all you have overcome and how successful you are because I sure am! :) You are so right this world can be scary and life can be hard at times but this is a beautiful place with beautiful people like yourself❤️❤️ I am gonna work so hard and become successful in life for the betterment of myself, my family, friends, and our community!! I am so happy to be talking with you! YOU have inspired me and gave me so much drive and I am so grateful and will live by your words everyday!! I will always continue to love myself and spread love whereever I go❤️❤️🥰🥰 please take care of yourself as well! Thank you so much!!! Have a blessed day beautiful! You have blessed mine🥰❤️❤️✨✨💕💕
How can someone claim to care about black women but date a man who refers to dark skinned women as “Wesley Snipes” , yet light skinned women were accurately referred to as “fair skinned”?
Everything you said is so true. Something similar to this recently just crossed my mind. If you’re a black women (referring specifically to brown skins and dark skins) who’s attracted to a man you know FULL WELL is colorist and you think you can get him because your “not that dark” or a “pretty dark skin” you’re colorist too🤦🏾♀️ screw complicit you’re COLORIST. If you’re a light skin woman dating a colorist man, you’re a colorist. Because being okay with and letting yourself benefit from it is as bad as doing it yourself!
a colourist man's self-concept is too damaged to have an authentically loving relationship with any woman, light-skinned or dark-skinned. Light-skinned women may feel like it's beneficial to have lighter skin, but the reality is that any relationship they have with a colourist man will be one of perverted power. Lighter skin does not help with having a successfully loving relationship. Colourism really sucks for everyone, whether they know it or not. It's divisive and sad. Speaking as a light-skinned woman here. Sorry to hear about your ex-friends their behaviour towards you was disgusting and shameful.
Preach!!! This should be pinned lol Rihanna was Chris Brown’s preference and he beat the shit out of her. All of these colorist rappers with their bright and white partners treat them like shit. You have to date a man of substance and character, not one obsessed with your looks.
Yeah it’s almost like men and women are a natural contrast to each other just like light and dark are. And for the record something like 80% of dark skin black men date and marry dark skin black women. So stop trying to act like y’all are facing some epidemic or something.
@@superbrian7997 could you provide a citation for that last stat? It's just i haven't seen a study that recorded the shade of women that dark skin men marry and it'd be interesting to have a look. Also I've seen that 80% stat cited as the amount of black men that are married to black women not specifying dark skin woman so I just want to check you're not using that and extrapolating.
Also...if you go back to her before and after pics, she was a light brown complexion now she is looking more Latino...lighter...I think she lighten her skin
@@jayajaya788 I feel like it's coz she is rich and like she is eating well everything is she having is like quality stuff her Skin complexion can change I have seen stuff like that happen without using lightening creams or whatever
@@jayajaya788 she was never dark even her baby pics she's super light she's the same color she's always been even in the pic of her, y'all are really trying to build a case on her 😂
It’s always the worst when it’s your own dad. My dad told my mom when she was pregnant with me (their first child) that he did want any dark skinned daughters. It hurt me so much when I was older and she told me that. Even though I’m brown skinned and my sister is lighter it still hurts. My two brothers are dark skinned and he loves them. My parents loved us all but the fact that he would even say that broke my heart. Why couldn’t he just love us for being his good daughters no matter what color we are?
@@unapologetic7281 Because alot of black men actually don't necessarily want biracial sons (some see light boys as soft/ effeminate). But many dads want beautiful daughters and that means light skin for them. I've seen black men have kids with white women then when the dad is older date black women but have no kids with her.
@@michelleannor6944 that’s really sad to know. BM seem to be associating skin tones with femininity/masculinity, forgetting that the men who c0nqu€r€d, c0l0n!sed and €n$laved them were light/wh!te men- so why don’t BM associate weakness and softness with Wh!te men?
@@unapologetic7281 It's a similar scenario with gay black men. Many (successful affluent ones) date white men and without wanting to offend but it seems the white one of the more effeminate one.
When I heard she was dating ASAP Rocky, my visceral reaction was ewww. I saw his interview where he verbally disavowed Black Lives Matter. He distanced himself from the black experience. Bro. .. I wrote him off then. I laughed when he got arrested in Sweden. To find out Rihanna’s now dating him is disappointing to say the least. But I’m not surprised, Rihanna has a penchant for dating trash cans it seems.
Tbh, Rihanna and ASAP share the same politics. For some reason people have convinced themselves that Rihanna is pro-Black but if you pay attention to certain things, she really isn't.
@@kokolatte825 like what??? Could u share I remember on Chelsea lately she talked about how it was in Australia and then Rihanna was like first thing you noticed is how dark some of the people are...
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i've always looked sideways at fenty beauty and rihanna for her supposed support for darkskinned women.. it always rubbed me the wrong way even more so now because of this A$AP mess. like yeaaaa darkskinned women are lining her pockets but she's in a relationship with a whole colorist..doesn't seem genuine to me.
Rihanna is smart, she makes herself likable for business. She's a capitalist 💰 Thats the case for most -- if not all -- of these celebrities. That's why we shouldn't be stanning for anyone 🥴
Lol just because Rihanna has a brand that is diverse and inclusive doesn't mean her personal beliefs and values reflect that 🤣 why do people assume this? I feel like it sets you up for disappointment. Stop expecting shit from celebs
@@imxel2193 her mother! And most of her family is dark skinned. Say you hate her and go, comparing her to Trump because the man she's with said white women shouldn't wear purple lipstick. Rihanna has spoken about and up for dark skinned women. The women around her are dark skin. Spoken about when creating products that those women must be about to use it too or she wouldn't want her name on it.
@@iambluegossip her mother just lightened her skin so your excuse is void.this is not the first or last colorist man she has dated who constantly puts darkskin women down and its disgusting.
I love Rihanna, but it's kind of awkward that she came out with an inclusive cosmetic line that sells the idea that her highlighters, blushes, and lipsticks can look good on all skin tones, but dates men that would basically say nah that red lipstick is not meant for darker skinned women
Years ago I dated someone who adored by dark beautiful self. He was loving, respectful, and kind. Just like myself. He eventually took me to meet his parents. As soon as his dad laid eyes on me his reaction was "she's too damn dark. Where's the other girl you're dating? She's prettier"! We both were shocked! His mother said absolutely nothing but my bf, lit into his father and profusely apologized to me. We are no longer together but I'll never forget what his father said to me with all the vitriol he could muster!
Now that’s sad I’m sorry these are the men they call fathers and kangs I don’t respect no black man anymore because it’s always seem fake I went thru a similar situation but intsead the father told his son I look like a man(imma girl) like y would ur black father even say that ?especially wen his black wife look a mess like a bull in a China shop ,her weight was sloppy and her son was hideous but idc about looks so I don’t judge off the bat ,I have unique features it’s like we will only like ur strange unique features only if ur a super model well I’m thick in all the right places so that was out, even though I try to remain confident that hurt til this day I was 14
Water seeks its own level. Y’all forgetting Rihanna’s colorist behavior? Like how she clowned that young ds girl who complimented her & made a dress like one she wore. Instead of being flattered & praising her ingenuity, she publicly clowned a fan, a young black girl & never apologized that I know of. Also, why are we surprised that a preference would gravitate to colorists who tell her she’s the exception, pedestalizing her over “regular” black women.
I just love your intellect. I live in the Caribbean and it's filled with colorist men...but these conversations are never/ hardly ever discussed on public platforms.
When I was a teenager I found out late that I was dating a colourist. Many of my close friends happened to be light skinned mixed girls and I slowly started noticing his obsession with them and the fact that he enjoyed being with me just to get close to those girls. It was very traumatizing and hurtful because I obviously loved my friends and it wasn’t their fault that he was a weirdo…
“Wesley snipes complexion” vs “light skin women” told me everything I needed to know lol. He’s 1 shade away from being mr snipes’ complexion but still talking shit. An apology isn’t “y’all just sensitive” 🙄 the down bad down grade. Not saying her guy before was special. I personally believe most men aren’t worth the trouble no matter how attractive or how much money they have. Men always feel entitled and that woman should wait on him hand and foot just because he is a man. F the patriarchy. But I do believe there are men with sense who don’t have a chip on their shoulder from the misogynoir and misogyny that’s prevalent in our society.
Everything you said is on POINT! Been looking at Rihanna very suspiciously and for me, once you’re connected to a colourist man, you’re colourist too🤷🏾♀️
@@kmdaye04 oh honey, missing the point. She's complicit in this because she doesn't care about the derogatory ways he's targeted dark skinned women. She even had the nerve to try to get Black women to support him when he was locked up.
@@kokolatte825 and you're literally didn't have to..... So what's the point. Rihanna couldn't make you do anything clearly y'all didn't support him so.... take the positive imagery that she offers up a darker skin black women or her platforms that are much larger than any platform dumbass ASAP Rocky has and then go home. Let the Chris Brown's, Drake's and ASAP Rocky beat her light-skinned ass problems and not yours
“But they our sisters man ” , Shows how CERTAIN black men don’t see any romantic, nor physical attraction, value in black women because we are only their “sisters”. Kinda like when your brother gets to say things to you that no other person can say about you but in reality, if we are not blood related, I am not your sister. Respect is deeper than that.
Rihanna more than likely is deeply insecure, when it comes to men and the relationships she has with them. It's giving - low self- esteem! It's giving - "I deserve more, but accept less." It's giving - Childhood trauma." ASAP is beneath her and she knows it.
How old are yall??? When you are successful you are likely to meet men that are beneath you financially....Rihanna wants to get married, like most human women they will go with people that they know rather than finance
@@charmainej4820 Being beneath someone doesn't necessarily mean you're beneath them financially. He's beneath her morally and ethically because he's a colorist.
I’ve had the unfortunate experience of dating a ds bm man who was colorist. I specifically remember him saying, “ If you line up 5 ds bw and 5 ls bw together, the ls bw will be more attractive by default.” That comment really stung and confused me bc he was ds himself. He also had a ls bm as a baby mom that he revered and as$ kissed. I was younger, not as enlightened so I stayed in that horrible relationship longer than I should have. He tried to get me back years later and I told him all about himself which of course was met with lies and denial. Thankfully, I know much better now and will instantly drop a guy the second they do or say anything remotely colorist.
If Rihanna didn’t have lightskin and green eyes, she wouldn’t even be with him per his request lmfao I love her aesthetic and her music but I have slowly backed out of supporting her.
@@kokolatte825 she would have a career but she wouldn’t be as popular as she is today lightskin privilege exists look at the amount of Instagram followers lightskin famous women have likeZendaya and Rihanna compared to other darker skinned actors or singers like SZA and Lupita Nyongo.
She not the first and won't be the last to date a man with an off past it's probably a bunch in the comments with a dude they've taken back for the 3rd time frontin 🤣
I’m from Bk & always hung out in Harlem and we all knew ASAP. Yes, ppl grow, however, he hasn’t changed much. Still doing heavy weird ass drugs, has a horrible temper, still a colorist. I LOVE Rihanna & when I found out they were dating I was beyond shocked to say the least because I know him & the kind of person he Is so I was appalled that shes attracted to him. Them dating makes me look at her completely different.
LIBRA male energy. They always on something eh? I knew he was hiding substance abuse. They are really good at that. I don't get why ppl think he is so cute and great. So many things about him seem awkward and fake.
Replying late but I'd like to add that ASAP Rocky is also classist. I remember him disregarding BLM around 2016 & he said "all lives matter". Then he said he's not talking about Ferguson bcos he can't relate to poor black ppl. The colourism thing isn't a surprise bcos rappers using language like "redbone", "lightskin", "exotic" is a tell tale sign they're colourist.
I'm lightskin in Brazil and this also exists here: dark people are not valued as the lighter ones are. But the difference is that we don't call it "privilege", because we understand that privilege is something structural and at least in Brazil there is nothing that is positively structured for black people in general, so we don't talk about privileges but "lightskin advantages". Because for us privilege is something good that you have anywhere, so we understand that only white people have it, while the advantage depends on where you are: so if lightskin is in the middle where dark people are, they are more valued, but if these lightskin people are among white people, they are harmed. I'm just explaining the Brazilian reality, but as I said I recognize that we have something more in relation to dark people. I know it may sound weird, but I don't want to have those advantages, because if I have something it means others don't. So how can we end colorism? I think recognizing the advantages is the first step. But,after? I met your channel yesterday, but I already love it. it hurts to hear that people like me (lightskin) are valued more, because i understand that in a way we contribute to the non-valuation of the dark, but that's the truth and we need to change. Kisses from Brazil
We can end colourism by being honest about people’s ethnic/racial heritage. 1) Nobody in West Africa (where the original slaves were taken from to the Americas/Caribbean) is ‘light skin’. You are most likely biracial/multiracial. Authentic and original black people are LIMITED in shades, having deep-dark skin, wide noses and African-textured hair. Mixed people are the ones who are diverse with a range of skin tones (include dark-skin mixes), phenotypes and hair textures/colours. 3) Therefore, colourism is a mixed/biracial people problem.
@@unapologetic7281 I don't understand why you said West Africans aren't lightskin, because that's obvious. But don't forget that when darkskin women arrive in Brazil, they are raped so that their blackness is diluted and future generations gradually turn white (search for "Cam's Redemption"). This imposed mestizaje gave rise to biracial people, such as "pardo", "mestizo", but the racial identification is unique: you can be a black person (light or darksin), "yellow" (which are Asians), indigenous or you can be a mestizo (this can be read as white, indigenous black or yellow). This all depends on the phenotype. Violence against black women was strong here, so calling a black person with light skin "lightskin" rather than "biracial/multiracial" is a form of resistance against the Brazilian state that denies black and indigenous people their rights. This imposed miscegenation makes black men and women relate more to white people because they think they are the saviors (I'm not legitimizing the interracial relationship, but we understand that we have a past and present that encourages this interracial relationship, with the objective of erasing black people from the country's history). So here in Brazil there are lightskin, as well as in the USA, the difference is that these people are more valued than the darkskin, so that needs to be fought.
@@unapologetic7281 Colorism is a problem strategically created by Whiteness to pretend to accept black people and unfortunately the Lightskin are also reproducing this, because they benefit. But since we can't expect anything from white people, it's us lightskin who must work to end this. sorry if something is misspelled, i am using the translator
@@unapologetic7281 actually as a West African I can confirm that there are light skin people in West Africa we’re not limited in shades at all not even considering mixed people
@@ms-gb6if Stop girl! I'm mixed and proud to be one! And the situation here is not like to compare to USA. Nothing is the same and also depends of the region where people came from. For sure same region has a big issues with dark black but not all of them. All state here has a type of people and also their culture. Stop to talk about white people because the best part of my family is white and not because they are white it is because they were the people that took care of me independent of my color. This is really dumb and racist too!
could you make a video discussing featurism and eurocentric features? i’ve been noticing that ppl use the word eurocentric as a way to deflect from benefitting from featurism
but what can we expect from a person who was given a career mostly because of their looks and colorism ? and who should black women date in a industry where all of them are colorists ? like She is always in proximity to these men.. Sadly most of these men are conditioned from childhood to be colorists.. very few deconstruct..
🔑 🔐❤️❤️Her boyfriend is not even in a mature state to reconstruct everything he understands about women in general. She’s basically dating backwards, i’m very sure she’s took in time to think about it, and the relationship is probably based off of a strong friendship that they have, but I don’t think most people like ASAP rocky after his past verbal remarks of immaturity, as a matter of fact Rihanna‘s making him look good. It’s truly proof that you should not follow celebrities.
I don’t understand what Rihanna see in him. What happened to the rich Arab man she was with. I don’t know why they together it make me give her the side eye. That man very colorist and disrespectful.
I love Rihanna, but I think a lot of people who date or even are friends with people like ASAP don’t recognize that their affiliation with those individuals speaks partially to the types of bullshit they’ll tolerate and look past. If you claim to be inclusive, but choose to spend your time with people who aren’t, I’m kind of looking at you sideways because where does the limit to your inclusivity start? Those things don’t necessarily affect them directly so they overlook the problematic ways of their significant other/ friend. Now, I don’t think anyone is 100% free of colorism because it’s literally embedded in our everyday lives, but it’s also up to us to recognize and change how we navigate things like that, and it’s also our jobs to call others out when we see it.
I honestly feel like ASAP Rocky is the rebound from the Arabian guy she was dating. He probably really broke her heart because she seemed really into him and Rocky was probably there to console her and she just don’t care to be single anymore especially after her on/off situation got a porn star pregnant (Drake) maybe she just settling idk these are just my silly thoughts lol 🤷🏽♀️
I love how the insult to drake is that he is dating a porn star, not that he's a pedophile lol. Such underlying/subconscious misogynoir at work lmao.. Even when ur trying to insult the man, a random woman gets the hit
I love when you spoke about the “quick forgiveness” aspect too people are so quick to be like oh just forgive and I be like NO lol they don’t deserve my forgiveness
Great topic! I most definitely experience colorism with my ex. He is Caucasian and I was fine he would say things that were races that I would need to check home on and he will defend himself. And when his business partners will say something racist like for example one time he told me I look like a homeless. Smh 🤦🏽♀️ we were in New York City and I had an smoothie in my hand. After those couple of instances I no longer felt safe.
You’re the first to speak on this and I’ve been telling ppl this for a minute. Kehlani and Rih had me lookin at them sideways lol. Thank you for this, also you’re stunning to watch! I love your content on Instagram and now on UA-cam. Soon on Patreon 😍
Dating in the lgbt community and being feminine darkskin more then masculine is literally horrible I had a lot a lot of weird sketchy things happen to me but truly knowing your value and not settling down for any boy and standing out for yourself is the one of the best value my big sis taught me and I’m a Rihanna navy and a full amount of real navys knows where you coming from and understand itt fully 🖤🖤
I appreciate your commentary so much. This has been on my mind ever since I saw the first hint that they were hanging out. I'm doing my best to unlearn all bigotry, not just that which harms me. But when I realized that some folks have no reciprocity, I stopped worrying about those particular individuals. I was legit praying for Tyrese's most 2nd wife until I thought about how open he'd been about his colorism and narcissism all these years. So it was a choice. I'm happy for someone to find my body attractive, but I want no parts of a man who's fatphobic. Seems to me we should be building a larger network to make life healthy for all. As a dark skinned woman, I must give a shout-out to your gorgeous complexion, Mayowa.
thank you for this!! and yes youre right there's no need investing time into people who are still going to be abusive to us. and yes thank you for also speaking on men who are fatphobic/anti fat. thank you for the compliment!!
For 1) your skin is absolutely gorgeous! You are working that top. For 2) Rhianna stay dating these misogynistic colorist men. It’s like she has major daddy issues and she can’t help herself. I hope she learns to love herself and realize she can do better. I feel like she gives 0 Fs about colorism because she’s the preferred for a bunch of these rappers. I never got into her and don’t care about her businesses 🤷♀️
So when he also said that light skin women don’t look good with orange or purple did that also qualify him to be a colorist? I am dark skinned and never liked myself in red lipstick. Since there are many lipstick colors produced we can choose whatever we like: browns, orange, tan for me. To me a colorist is yes our own race of people prejudiced against ourselves according to our different hues. In his statement I did not hear him say that dark skinned women are unattractive to him. You like red lipstick on you yet I refuse to wear red on me. As far as the industry unfortunately most female performers that make it and dancers used in videos are of a lighter complexion and that has been a long standing problem from top to the lower levels of the industry.
I didn't realize he had said that, ewww, he's wrong for that. I think riri was settling after splitting up from that billionaire, didn't he marry someone else not long after been with her.
He said that???? I guess he never seen Class Act. Kid's love interest in that movie was darker than Wesley Snipes and rockin a red dress with cherry red lipstick.
I think ASAP was supposed to be a hook up not a relationship. Even she hasn’t claimed him in public but wouldn’t be surprised if he been pushing for them to be an official couple for his benefit. I just hope that he doesn’t use her for her money coz if he disrespects women like that in public what’s stopping him from doing that to her one day?
What you said is all true!!! I ♥️ Rih, but Let’s be honest, rih benefits from kolorism. So it’s no surprise that she’s dating him! As a fellow island gyal, we all know the sentiments of most “red” ppl like rih! So 🤷🏽♀️ it’s not a disappoint or surprise to me.
I have definitely made the mistake of dating a colorist man, who let me know I was not his preference. I used excuses like "oh he's carribean and maybe he will adapt and change with intellectual conversation..." No. Nonsenseeee. The only thing that comes from dating someone who is shamelessly colorist is trauma for the other person involved. *sighs in triggered*
Thank you so much for this video...the 'tall, dark,and handsome' idea hit levels. Society could also view women as 'masculine' if they are dark and beautiful because of that concept 🤯. Sucks. It makes sense why I would be treated a certain type of way automatically. It's embedded in the subconscious.
Unfortunately Rhianna has a brand, there’s also Chris Brown and I wouldn’t be surprised if that Prince she dated wasn’t of the same low opinion towards darker skinned women. Why would Rhianna be attracted to those type of men with that slave-like mentality regarding our beautiful melaninated sisters? Both ASAP and Chris Brown went beyond “preference” and “exotic”, they vocally expressed derogatory wrong opinions against darker skin women, Rhianna is aware of it, does she low key and unconsciously share the same opinions?
You pointed out everything I was thinking. I Love your content 💗 Colorism has so many layers that,I get kind of overwhelmed when talking about it. But fortunately your channel exists.
I have ebony skin. I saw a biography about Rihanna which stated that she was taunted as a child for having a light complexion. When I heard that she had recently reached billionaire status, I thought to myself that she had succeeded in spite of her haters. My next thought was that my own success was on its way. I was happy that she had done well for herself. At this point, I have dissociated myself from all of this painful colorism. The world is just so effed up. If I dwelled on it I would lose my mind. I can't afford to do that. I don't the have time and emotional energy to waste.
Rihanna could get herself any race of men. I don’t get the choices she’s making when it comes to her love life. She needs a nice man. He doesn’t have to be any particular color or ethnicity. Choose wisely, Riri.
I agree with you, dating is very complicated. You should profile this person. So much about him. What kind of women his ex girlfriends were. Why they broke up. What kind of people this person's friends are... All about this person's family, all their family dynamics... And so on
Rihanna has never done squat music wise or community wise. In fact I think that she has used the black woman card left, right and barely whenever she felt was more beneficial to her. I do not understand why people like her so much. Anyways, girl I am liking you, your shaved eyebrows and your whole looks. 💗
There is so many layers. Yes, she has an extremely inclusive personal brand and has been verbal about wanting as many different people as possible to be reflected and valued in her makeup and clothing lines. But then you have the added nuance of them having romantic/ platonic history, her being from a different country, her specifically being a certain complexion from a Caribbean country, their economic classes, etc. Like I’m not surprised she is with him but I am curious how she came to that decision.
We forget that the most colorist and even racist people we engage on a daily are our own families and so called friends. Even activist have these issues man. So courage is what we need every time we address the issues. I have lost many but I have gained enormously.
Black women date colorist men because most black women are colorist too, I don’t see how ppl don’t understand this and furthermore, black women’s self esteem is built off dark skinned women being put down I guess I’m the only one who gets this concept!
I don't get the big deal. That's his opinion if he doesn't think women of a certain shade doesn't suit a certain colour what's the big deal? I'm black but I don't think tattoos look good on black people simply because the contrast doesn't show up as well on dark skin as it does on pale white skin. Just like I think white people don't suit certain colours. Just because someone is black/dark-skinned it doesn't mean we suit all colours. I wore a jacket with some trainers, my friend said the colour of the jacket didn't suit me and ut didn't go with the trainers(I thought it looked good). We went out and a stranger complimented me on the colour of the jacket saying it complimented my skin. Point being everyone has their own opinion, why let someone's opinion like ASAP rocky bother you? Leave him too it.
You were soooo on point. On the other day I tried to debate about this with my darkskin male friend and he went crazy defending his lightskin diva 💀 that really made me feel uncomfortable as fuck.
I love the look! 😍 It's giving 2005 Megan Good. The vision is clear. It's refreshing to see thin brows, the colored in thick caterpillars are played out. About the topic; it's not even melanin rich women forgiving, they're being forced to forgive and forget. The perpetrator won't allow the conversation to progress until they've bullied the melanin rich woman into silence and complacency. And if she isn't silenced she's the aggressor. Anyone who doesn't understand how horrible this is or doesn't speak up when they're in the midst of this madness is part of the problem. Rihanna loves her some abusive men, colorism is verbal abuse, she loves being assaulted, objectified, publicly humiliated. At the end of the day it's just sis and her billions. These males don't care about her. The preferences are treated poorly too. In a twisted way, that's the only reason bm are being called out for their BS and colorist ways, they're treating non Black and light preferences poorly. Before their public disdain began a few years ago, the issue of colorism fell on deaf ears, now it's a commonly used term. Preferences being treated poorly has helped the cause by proxy.
I do agree with the whole “getting the bag”. Same with the lgbtq community . They do deserve respect but I strongly believe people are pretending to like them to either gain money/clout or look good in people eyes
At first before watching the full video I thought based on a few comments that you were just being sensitive because “it was 7 years ago” but after actually watching the full video, #1 you’re so well spoken and communicate your points so well. #2 You’re absolutely right. The part about “you have the privilege of staying quiet because you don’t have to engage in those messy conversations” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 yup right again. & #3 that part about not having to forgive someone if you don’t want to 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Go tf offffff PERIOD ! I just feel like people don’t watch the full video before commenting or they lowkey colorist themselves cause you said some real shit. 👏🏽🔥
I love how confident u r within yourself to do what makes u feel happy and not to do what society deems is acceptable n that is something a lot of people wish they could do. N btw it’s not a backhand compliment to say your not pretty because I think u r but I value confidence of beauty cause beauty consistently changes within our society but confidence is something that always remains the same
Very well put. People who believe in themselves are so attractive. No matter how much the beauty standards change, having high esteem in yourself will never go out of style.
This makes me think of 2 things immediately. 1. I expected more from Rihanna. I remember seeing a special on Oprahs channel where Rihanna bought her mom a house. To my surprise and Joy her mother is a beautiful chocolate woman. In my head from then on I assumed she was an ally. Lol that was very naive on my part. 2. When this conversation comes up I ALWAYS think about Tina Knowels and how I believe she is a fake ally. On one hand Kelly Rolland credits Tina with some of her confidence being dark skin woman, citing her talks with Tina about how rare and beautiful chocolate is. On the other hand however, I saw an interview with Mathew knowels admitting when he first saw Tina he thought she was a white woman. That was his initial attraction to her. So.....you mean to tell me you were married to a very deep completed man who was initially attracted to you because he thought you were white for almost 30 years who remind you she only got a divorce from because she found out about his Toddler side baby. It wasn't the colorism. It was the cheating......furthermore you were never an ally. You were a beneficiary until it no longer SERVED you to be with such a mentally sick broken and self hating man. I think this is often the thing with light skin women. Because we are on the other side, its usually very easy to spot the brokenness in colorist men. That cant HELP but to spill over into other aspects of their manhood. Because it's a very delicate deep seated inner hate issue. We get it. The LS women who deal with colorists on the other hand very much like white ppl about Blk ppl problems feel like it isn't their issue. Until it is. Then they all of a sudden have dozens of red flag stories that they thought didn't affect them until in hindsight their able to connect the dots. But as far as I'm concerned at that point it's TOO late. You were already complicit.
When Rihanna first came to the states. She said she identified with Mariah Carey as a fellow biracial. That changed because a lot black americans pressure mixed race people into claiming black only. And plenty of self hating mixed race people insist that they are black. Rihanna to me has always been a mixed woman. She is the preference for black men who don't want to go full white but get the light eyes, light skin and maybe looser hair. Side note: there are different shades of red and different undertones. It all depends on your undertone and getting the right shade
Me being a lightskin black man I know exactly what u mean most women assume I'm soft for whatever reason without even getting to know me and all my male darkskin friends only date lightskin or flat out white women it's so sad
Let's be real, LOTS of light skinned women date colorist men. Some know their man is colorist, some do not pick up on it. Rihanna, being light with green eyes benefits from colorism. That's just what it is...I side eyed most the men she dated.
I love this video and this voice you have brought out here. Like we need this so bad, Colorist discourse isn’t even in the vocabulary of “leftist” figures/people whatever, which is funny, cause this is an issue that is relevant to all minorities!!
Rihanna has green eyes , light skin, Carribean girl . She benefits from colorism . She’s privilege. But I somewhat agree too bc she was so quick to drop draya wen she made stupid comments about domestic violence bc Rihanna can relate to it but when it came to ASAP rocky she didn’t drop him bc she either doesn’t care or can’t relate despite the women in her family being darker skin. She’s privilege that all I can say .
Most black rappers in America are colorist.🤷 That is unfortunate and sad.
Unfortunately it's not just in America.
Rappers are bad news regardless
most ? more like all of em
@@0nly.bhadbby40 i conquer
I can barely count the amount of black rappers that are dating/married to darkskin black girls on one hand and that says a whole lot.
My friend just mentioned this to me the other day. She was like, why is Rihanna constantly linked with these colorist men..something about that seems weird
Weird or simply she a colorist apologist herself. She's been put on a pedestal her whole life for being an ambiguous island gyal, like ofc she knows she would've never had this career and success with men if not for her fair complexion
@April wow.....why must people always consider ds bw bitter😑 when literally we just point out factors and patterns that we see over and over again. hell we get treated LESS THAN just because of our darker tone come on now. hell even some light skin black women SEE the nonsense that dark skin black women go through and empathize with us because THEY KNOW its not right for us to go through what we go through. It’s not about not being someone’s preference its about being treated with the same respect as other people.
@April that back handed comment wasnt necessary either “there are plenty of people who would settle for you anyway” now would you tell a dark skin woman whos a friend that? thats if you have any ds girlfriends but even if you didn’t imagine if you did.
@April you're trippin
@April lol no one said she wasn't talented. It's funny how black people can turn on you when it's colorism 😂 Human beings are so selfish. If the topic were racism, we would all be unitedly speaking against it, but now that it is something you benefit from, dark women are "bitter." Funny you chose a word that is used to silence ALL black women. Human beings, bruh 😂 Never surprised.
Hello Y’all, I’m 62yr, I was the darkest skin girl of my immediate family. My uncle, mother’s brother called me “Blackie” hardly ever my name. I felt Colorism as a young child. No one stopped him. My mother didn’t have love for me even though she birthed me, like I was damaged goods. That effected me ALL my life. Even though generally, I’ve been relatively successful in life, this issue has followed me in life...family, friends, dating, marriage, early school, college and adulthood. I was the “good one”. I had be, Life lived well, now at my age I don’t give AF about it anymore. However, I deeply appreciate that we’re finally taking this issue out the closets. Thank you🥰
thank you so much for writing this. I find this perspective to be very enlightening and affirming because it shows that it doesn't matter the age, colorism is something that will prevail our whole lives. thank you for sharing this story, and I can relate to feeling like you have to be perfect because of colorism. thank you for this perspective Miss Jones!
@@mayowasworld Thank You my Dear! I am so proud of you and other young Black women who are stepping out/up with courage and integrity to speak up and expose this generational trauma within our community. It’s generational, and so ingrained in our psyche that we intuitively just “suck it up”. You give me great hope for the future! Plus you make me smile with presentation, you’re Beautiful inside and out! Good mental health is not a given. Much Love Sis💖
I am so so sorry you went through that! That is just terrible and heartbreaking. Im so happy you are doing well now. thank you so much for talking about your story! I'm 17 and I have been learning so much these past years and i feel very comfortable in my skin and blessing myself with self love! Im so happy you rose above that! I am wishing you love and all the best ❤️❤️✨✨
@@princess-sn4dw My dear Alexandra, Thank you for your well wishes. YOU give me great hope for the future of OUR community! You have your head on straight. My younger self says “I want to be like her”! This world can be a scary place, however it is also an amazing, bountiful, beautiful place. Please continue to live with honesty, love, humility, integrity, compassion and grace, with yourself and others. Please continue to love you. Not Blindly, stay focused, especially when vetting Wise council. Education is important, it teaches you skills that you weren’t born with, these days look to life from a global perspective. Don’t fall for the social media “okey doke” I envy your your youth! Act responsibly. Life will give you ups and downs, in and outs, never give up on yourself! I see great things for you in the future! I love and feel your spirit. Take good care my Dear! Peace and Blessings! 💖💕🎉🔥🥰😘
@@corettejones Miss jones, I adore you and your wisdom with my entire heart❤️ I almost cried because of how beautiful your words of encouragment were for me! I know your younger self is smiling looking at all you have overcome and how successful you are because I sure am! :) You are so right this world can be scary and life can be hard at times but this is a beautiful place with beautiful people like yourself❤️❤️ I am gonna work so hard and become successful in life for the betterment of myself, my family, friends, and our community!! I am so happy to be talking with you! YOU have inspired me and gave me so much drive and I am so grateful and will live by your words everyday!! I will always continue to love myself and spread love whereever I go❤️❤️🥰🥰 please take care of yourself as well! Thank you so much!!! Have a blessed day beautiful! You have blessed mine🥰❤️❤️✨✨💕💕
How can someone claim to care about black women but date a man who refers to dark skinned women as “Wesley Snipes” , yet light skinned women were accurately referred to as “fair skinned”?
exactly!! smh
Yes because you see being called light skinned as a compliment smh
@@divestedkonservativekarame4269 WHAT!?
Because she's apathetic to colorism at best (and uses her products/marketing to distract from that) or she's colorist herself at worst.
Just like Nicki Minaj claims shes a feminist and marries a rapist.
Everything you said is so true. Something similar to this recently just crossed my mind. If you’re a black women (referring specifically to brown skins and dark skins) who’s attracted to a man you know FULL WELL is colorist and you think you can get him because your “not that dark” or a “pretty dark skin” you’re colorist too🤦🏾♀️ screw complicit you’re COLORIST. If you’re a light skin woman dating a colorist man, you’re a colorist. Because being okay with and letting yourself benefit from it is as bad as doing it yourself!
PERFECTLY SAID
Agreeeeddd!!
As a light skinned woman myself this thought is automatic for me. I don't want to be AROUND these men or the colorist women who like it.
Bad.. interesting 🤔
Indeed ❤️
a colourist man's self-concept is too damaged to have an authentically loving relationship with any woman, light-skinned or dark-skinned. Light-skinned women may feel like it's beneficial to have lighter skin, but the reality is that any relationship they have with a colourist man will be one of perverted power. Lighter skin does not help with having a successfully loving relationship. Colourism really sucks for everyone, whether they know it or not. It's divisive and sad. Speaking as a light-skinned woman here. Sorry to hear about your ex-friends their behaviour towards you was disgusting and shameful.
Preach!!! This should be pinned lol Rihanna was Chris Brown’s preference and he beat the shit out of her. All of these colorist rappers with their bright and white partners treat them like shit. You have to date a man of substance and character, not one obsessed with your looks.
Couldn’t have said it any better!
They still use, cheat on, abuse, etc., even if the woman is light-skinned or bi-/multi-racial.
@@Caligirl.8630 I agree, well said.
I've noticed that most straight black men have female partners who are lighter than them (most, not all). It definitely isn't a coincidence.
I noticed this as a child. Not knowing better I thought that was normal & that something was wrong w me
Yeah it’s almost like men and women are a natural contrast to each other just like light and dark are. And for the record something like 80% of dark skin black men date and marry dark skin black women.
So stop trying to act like y’all are facing some epidemic or something.
@@superbrian7997 could you provide a citation for that last stat? It's just i haven't seen a study that recorded the shade of women that dark skin men marry and it'd be interesting to have a look. Also I've seen that 80% stat cited as the amount of black men that are married to black women not specifying dark skin woman so I just want to check you're not using that and extrapolating.
You're giving me like sea goddess vibes with the outfit and the makeup and the shells. I love it.
The shells in her hair and the accessories 😻🧜🏾♀️
Yes, Such Beauty! ❤️
Big Yemoja energy
Riri stays cuz those insults dont affect her personally, finacially and emotionally.
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Also...if you go back to her before and after pics, she was a light brown complexion now she is looking more Latino...lighter...I think she lighten her skin
@@jayajaya788 I feel like it's coz she is rich and like she is eating well everything is she having is like quality stuff her Skin complexion can change I have seen stuff like that happen without using lightening creams or whatever
@@jayajaya788 speak on it
@@jayajaya788 she was never dark even her baby pics she's super light she's the same color she's always been even in the pic of her, y'all are really trying to build a case on her 😂
It’s always the worst when it’s your own dad. My dad told my mom when she was pregnant with me (their first child) that he did want any dark skinned daughters. It hurt me so much when I was older and she told me that. Even though I’m brown skinned and my sister is lighter it still hurts. My two brothers are dark skinned and he loves them. My parents loved us all but the fact that he would even say that broke my heart. Why couldn’t he just love us for being his good daughters no matter what color we are?
They don't mind the sons being dark. It's more about the daughters....
@@michelleannor6944 why do you think they want dark skinned sons but light/biracial daughters?
@@unapologetic7281 Because alot of black men actually don't necessarily want biracial sons (some see light boys as soft/ effeminate). But many dads want beautiful daughters and that means light skin for them. I've seen black men have kids with white women then when the dad is older date black women but have no kids with her.
@@michelleannor6944 that’s really sad to know. BM seem to be associating skin tones with femininity/masculinity, forgetting that the men who c0nqu€r€d, c0l0n!sed and €n$laved them were light/wh!te men- so why don’t BM associate weakness and softness with Wh!te men?
@@unapologetic7281 It's a similar scenario with gay black men. Many (successful affluent ones) date white men and without wanting to offend but it seems the white one of the more effeminate one.
She was with Chris Brown openly too and we all know how he gets down.
She dated him when he was young, they were both young....he wasn't displaying his colourism back then
oooop!!! I actually forgot about that! smh youre right.
😂😂😂 RIGHT OMG YOU SPEAKING FACTS
@@charmainej4820 displaying? most rational people hide their bigoted thoughts in public. when you’re with someone personally, the signs are there
No there's nothing wrong Chris brown preferring what he is most humans do that
When I heard she was dating ASAP Rocky, my visceral reaction was ewww. I saw his interview where he verbally disavowed Black Lives Matter. He distanced himself from the black experience. Bro. .. I wrote him off then. I laughed when he got arrested in Sweden. To find out Rihanna’s now dating him is disappointing to say the least. But I’m not surprised, Rihanna has a penchant for dating trash cans it seems.
Tbh, Rihanna and ASAP share the same politics. For some reason people have convinced themselves that Rihanna is pro-Black but if you pay attention to certain things, she really isn't.
@@kokolatte825 I agree with you , what certain things show that she’s colourist?
I had the same reaction when the rumors about them hit the media.
@@kokolatte825 do you have specific source on this ? :o
@@kokolatte825 like what??? Could u share I remember on Chelsea lately she talked about how it was in Australia and then Rihanna was like first thing you noticed is how dark some of the people are...
i've always looked sideways at fenty beauty and rihanna for her supposed support for darkskinned women.. it always rubbed me the wrong way even more so now because of this A$AP mess. like yeaaaa darkskinned women are lining her pockets but she's in a relationship with a whole colorist..doesn't seem genuine to me.
Exactly, you hit the nail on the head. Well said.
It never was . This whole thing is marketing
Look at her dating history though she seems to not prefer ds black men
💯💯me neither 😏
I've never supported her brand and never will.
I was talking about my sister about this, with all the “inclusivity” she says she is, I side eye her choice in her choice of men
sameeee the math isnt mathing!
She dates men who are emotionally unavailable.
And she herself typically dates light and bright men. ASAP Rocky is thee only brown one
"Inclusivity" is her brand. It's not who she is. Rihanna and Rocky share similar views and the fans just don't want to see it.
@@kokolatte825 her mother is dark skin two of her best friend is dark skin so how is she not inclusive. You ppl just say anything
Rihanna is smart, she makes herself likable for business. She's a capitalist 💰 Thats the case for most -- if not all -- of these celebrities. That's why we shouldn't be stanning for anyone 🥴
Correction, she's a puppet. Who is owned by Capitalists.
YEEEEES
Lol just because Rihanna has a brand that is diverse and inclusive doesn't mean her personal beliefs and values reflect that 🤣 why do people assume this? I feel like it sets you up for disappointment. Stop expecting shit from celebs
I could never date a colorist but that's just me
Her mom is dark skinned and she constantly talks about it.
@@iambluegossip so? That’s like Trump saying look at my african American over there!
@@imxel2193 her mother! And most of her family is dark skinned. Say you hate her and go, comparing her to Trump because the man she's with said white women shouldn't wear purple lipstick.
Rihanna has spoken about and up for dark skinned women. The women around her are dark skin. Spoken about when creating products that those women must be about to use it too or she wouldn't want her name on it.
@@iambluegossip her mother just lightened her skin so your excuse is void.this is not the first or last colorist man she has dated who constantly puts darkskin women down and its disgusting.
I love Rihanna, but it's kind of awkward that she came out with an inclusive cosmetic line that sells the idea that her highlighters, blushes, and lipsticks can look good on all skin tones, but dates men that would basically say nah that red lipstick is not meant for darker skinned women
Years ago I dated someone who adored by dark beautiful self. He was loving, respectful, and kind. Just like myself. He eventually took me to meet his parents. As soon as his dad laid eyes on me his reaction was "she's too damn dark. Where's the other girl you're dating? She's prettier"! We both were shocked! His mother said absolutely nothing but my bf, lit into his father and profusely apologized to me. We are no longer together but I'll never forget what his father said to me with all the vitriol he could muster!
aww the way you say my bf instead of rx bf.. :/ Yall seemed lovely together
Now that’s sad I’m sorry these are the men they call fathers and kangs I don’t respect no black man anymore because it’s always seem fake I went thru a similar situation but intsead the father told his son I look like a man(imma girl) like y would ur black father even say that ?especially wen his black wife look a mess like a bull in a China shop ,her weight was sloppy and her son was hideous but idc about looks so I don’t judge off the bat ,I have unique features it’s like we will only like ur strange unique features only if ur a super model well I’m thick in all the right places so that was out, even though I try to remain confident that hurt til this day I was 14
Water seeks its own level. Y’all forgetting Rihanna’s colorist behavior? Like how she clowned that young ds girl who complimented her & made a dress like one she wore. Instead of being flattered & praising her ingenuity, she publicly clowned a fan, a young black girl & never apologized that I know of. Also, why are we surprised that a preference would gravitate to colorists who tell her she’s the exception, pedestalizing her over “regular” black women.
"He's a trash can" sounds about right!
I just love your intellect. I live in the Caribbean and it's filled with colorist men...but these conversations are never/ hardly ever discussed on public platforms.
You are so right, I am from Trinidad and the men here are very colorist.
When I was a teenager I found out late that I was dating a colourist. Many of my close friends happened to be light skinned mixed girls and I slowly started noticing his obsession with them and the fact that he enjoyed being with me just to get close to those girls. It was very traumatizing and hurtful because I obviously loved my friends and it wasn’t their fault that he was a weirdo…
@JA Girl_Vendetta … did any of your light skinned “friends” observe his behavior and not check it? If so, they weren’t a friend.
“Wesley snipes complexion” vs “light skin women” told me everything I needed to know lol. He’s 1 shade away from being mr snipes’ complexion but still talking shit. An apology isn’t “y’all just sensitive” 🙄 the down bad down grade. Not saying her guy before was special. I personally believe most men aren’t worth the trouble no matter how attractive or how much money they have. Men always feel entitled and that woman should wait on him hand and foot just because he is a man. F the patriarchy. But I do believe there are men with sense who don’t have a chip on their shoulder from the misogynoir and misogyny that’s prevalent in our society.
wesley snipes,a way to masculinze darker skin women
@@ameera.abubakr like he can't find a dark skinned woman to use as an example.
exxxxactly thank you for pointing that out! you can see the coded language when he speaks
Hahaha! I thought that too! Like dude you’re not way off Wesley Snipes! Tf you talking about?! 😂😂😂
Man Wesley Snipes is handsome..his complexion is 🤤🤤🤤...who doesn't want a woman or even a man that complexion...man people going crazy
Everything you said is on POINT! Been looking at Rihanna very suspiciously and for me, once you’re connected to a colourist man, you’re colourist too🤷🏾♀️
exactamundo! the apple don't fall far from the tree!
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Rihanna dates men from all colors of the rainbow. Dark, light, white, yellow. She’s not a colourist, but she needs to FRY her man about his colourism.
@@kmdaye04 oh honey, missing the point. She's complicit in this because she doesn't care about the derogatory ways he's targeted dark skinned women. She even had the nerve to try to get Black women to support him when he was locked up.
@@kokolatte825 and you're literally didn't have to..... So what's the point. Rihanna couldn't make you do anything clearly y'all didn't support him so.... take the positive imagery that she offers up a darker skin black women or her platforms that are much larger than any platform dumbass ASAP Rocky has and then go home. Let the Chris Brown's, Drake's and ASAP Rocky beat her light-skinned ass problems and not yours
“But they our sisters man ” ,
Shows how CERTAIN black men don’t see any romantic, nor physical attraction, value in black women because we are only their “sisters”.
Kinda like when your brother gets to say things to you that no other person can say about you but in reality, if we are not blood related, I am not your sister.
Respect is deeper than that.
Rihanna more than likely is deeply insecure, when it comes to men and the relationships she has with them.
It's giving - low self- esteem! It's giving - "I deserve more, but accept less." It's giving - Childhood trauma." ASAP is beneath her and she knows it.
@@itslani.0435 Girl... ✋🏾 Calm you puss please!
@@reginaa6080 why you tell her to calm down when she is literally agreeing with you 😭🤡
How old are yall??? When you are successful you are likely to meet men that are beneath you financially....Rihanna wants to get married, like most human women they will go with people that they know rather than finance
Exactly very much beneath her
@@charmainej4820 Being beneath someone doesn't necessarily mean you're beneath them financially. He's beneath her morally and ethically because he's a colorist.
I’ve had the unfortunate experience of dating a ds bm man who was colorist. I specifically remember him saying, “ If you line up 5 ds bw and 5 ls bw together, the ls bw will be more attractive by default.” That comment really stung and confused me bc he was ds himself. He also had a ls bm as a baby mom that he revered and as$ kissed. I was younger, not as enlightened so I stayed in that horrible relationship longer than I should have. He tried to get me back years later and I told him all about himself which of course was met with lies and denial. Thankfully, I know much better now and will instantly drop a guy the second they do or say anything remotely colorist.
If Rihanna didn’t have lightskin and green eyes, she wouldn’t even be with him per his request lmfao I love her aesthetic and her music but I have slowly backed out of supporting her.
If Rihanna didn't have light skin and light eyes she wouldn't have a career. Let's be honest.
@@kokolatte825 nah, I don’t agree there because her music is very good in my opinion. I love her style and general vibes.
@@kokolatte825 right. not to tear her down but her singing is simply medicore
@@kokolatte825 she would have a career but she wouldn’t be as popular as she is today lightskin privilege exists look at the amount of Instagram followers lightskin famous women have likeZendaya and Rihanna compared to other darker skinned actors or singers like SZA and Lupita Nyongo.
She not the first and won't be the last to date a man with an off past it's probably a bunch in the comments with a dude they've taken back for the 3rd time frontin 🤣
He also said that he wants to be treated like the prize and that he should be treated like a woman and be courted
LOL this man is pure nonsense.
Yes, I'm happy for him that he bagged his billionaire who can buy him his bouquet of flowers. 😆 they both looking like clowns.
@@kokolatte825 🤣🤣🤣🤣 le strange, right?
@@kokolatte825 you read my mind I feel thats really the only reason why he's with her
Listen, as long as she treats him like the prize. That's what's important. They can shop for fashion together and laugh at colorist jokes. 👩🏽🤝👩🏿
She dated Chris Brown too and he’s a huuuuge colorist
Mr Paperbag himself
Rihanna has the same mindset as Chris Brown and ASAP
Right I’m really starting to believe this and it’s sad because I really did like her
LMAO FACTS
@@miffycarter3876 I thought she was different, she’s just like everyone else now
I’m from Bk & always hung out in Harlem and we all knew ASAP. Yes, ppl grow, however, he hasn’t changed much. Still doing heavy weird ass drugs, has a horrible temper, still a colorist. I LOVE Rihanna & when I found out they were dating I was beyond shocked to say the least because I know him & the kind of person he Is so I was appalled that shes attracted to him. Them dating makes me look at her completely different.
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LIBRA male energy. They always on something eh? I knew he was hiding substance abuse. They are really good at that. I don't get why ppl think he is so cute and great. So many things about him seem awkward and fake.
How was he before?
Replying late but I'd like to add that ASAP Rocky is also classist. I remember him disregarding BLM around 2016 & he said "all lives matter". Then he said he's not talking about Ferguson bcos he can't relate to poor black ppl.
The colourism thing isn't a surprise bcos rappers using language like "redbone", "lightskin", "exotic" is a tell tale sign they're colourist.
I mean, she dated Chris brown, which we all know now he's a colorist
I'm lightskin in Brazil and this also exists here: dark people are not valued as the lighter ones are. But the difference is that we don't call it "privilege", because we understand that privilege is something structural and at least in Brazil there is nothing that is positively structured for black people in general, so we don't talk about privileges but "lightskin advantages". Because for us privilege is something good that you have anywhere, so we understand that only white people have it, while the advantage depends on where you are: so if lightskin is in the middle where dark people are, they are more valued, but if these lightskin people are among white people, they are harmed.
I'm just explaining the Brazilian reality, but as I said I recognize that we have something more in relation to dark people.
I know it may sound weird, but I don't want to have those advantages, because if I have something it means others don't. So how can we end colorism? I think recognizing the advantages is the first step. But,after?
I met your channel yesterday, but I already love it. it hurts to hear that people like me (lightskin) are valued more, because i understand that in a way we contribute to the non-valuation of the dark, but that's the truth and we need to change.
Kisses from Brazil
We can end colourism by being honest about people’s ethnic/racial heritage. 1) Nobody in West Africa (where the original slaves were taken from to the Americas/Caribbean) is ‘light skin’. You are most likely biracial/multiracial. Authentic and original black people are LIMITED in shades, having deep-dark skin, wide noses and African-textured hair. Mixed people are the ones who are diverse with a range of skin tones (include dark-skin mixes), phenotypes and hair textures/colours. 3) Therefore, colourism is a mixed/biracial people problem.
@@unapologetic7281 I don't understand why you said West Africans aren't lightskin, because that's obvious. But don't forget that when darkskin women arrive in Brazil, they are raped so that their blackness is diluted and future generations gradually turn white (search for "Cam's Redemption"). This imposed mestizaje gave rise to biracial people, such as "pardo", "mestizo", but the racial identification is unique: you can be a black person (light or darksin), "yellow" (which are Asians), indigenous or you can be a mestizo (this can be read as white, indigenous black or yellow). This all depends on the phenotype. Violence against black women was strong here, so calling a black person with light skin "lightskin" rather than "biracial/multiracial" is a form of resistance against the Brazilian state that denies black and indigenous people their rights. This imposed miscegenation makes black men and women relate more to white people because they think they are the saviors (I'm not legitimizing the interracial relationship, but we understand that we have a past and present that encourages this interracial relationship, with the objective of erasing black people from the country's history). So here in Brazil there are lightskin, as well as in the USA, the difference is that these people are more valued than the darkskin, so that needs to be fought.
@@unapologetic7281 Colorism is a problem strategically created by Whiteness to pretend to accept black people and unfortunately the Lightskin are also reproducing this, because they benefit. But since we can't expect anything from white people, it's us lightskin who must work to end this.
sorry if something is misspelled, i am using the translator
@@unapologetic7281 actually as a West African I can confirm that there are light skin people in West Africa we’re not limited in shades at all not even considering mixed people
@@ms-gb6if Stop girl! I'm mixed and proud to be one! And the situation here is not like to compare to USA. Nothing is the same and also depends of the region where people came from. For sure same region has a big issues with dark black but not all of them. All state here has a type of people and also their culture. Stop to talk about white people because the best part of my family is white and not because they are white it is because they were the people that took care of me independent of my color. This is really dumb and racist too!
could you make a video discussing featurism and eurocentric features? i’ve been noticing that ppl use the word eurocentric as a way to deflect from benefitting from featurism
Inclusiveness is a catch word businesses use to push merchandise.
but what can we expect from a person who was given a career mostly because of their looks and colorism ? and who should black women date in a industry where all of them are colorists ? like She is always in proximity to these men.. Sadly most of these men are conditioned from childhood to be colorists.. very few deconstruct..
🔑 🔐❤️❤️Her boyfriend is not even in a mature state to reconstruct everything he understands about women in general. She’s basically dating backwards, i’m very sure she’s took in time to think about it, and the relationship is probably based off of a strong friendship that they have, but I don’t think most people like ASAP rocky after his past verbal remarks of immaturity, as a matter of fact Rihanna‘s making him look good. It’s truly proof that you should not follow celebrities.
I don’t understand what Rihanna see in him. What happened to the rich Arab man she was with. I don’t know why they together it make me give her the side eye. That man very colorist and disrespectful.
Exactly THE ONLY MAN SHE HAS DATED IS THE ARAB GUY.
I think she’d have to give up her career or something to be with him. I don’t recall all of the facts of their separation.
I love Rihanna, but I think a lot of people who date or even are friends with people like ASAP don’t recognize that their affiliation with those individuals speaks partially to the types of bullshit they’ll tolerate and look past. If you claim to be inclusive, but choose to spend your time with people who aren’t, I’m kind of looking at you sideways because where does the limit to your inclusivity start? Those things don’t necessarily affect them directly so they overlook the problematic ways of their significant other/ friend. Now, I don’t think anyone is 100% free of colorism because it’s literally embedded in our everyday lives, but it’s also up to us to recognize and change how we navigate things like that, and it’s also our jobs to call others out when we see it.
Omg I love your discussion videos so much pls don’t stop! 😩😩🤭
thank you love
Human buffoonery: X is punished for speaking up and Y benefits from silence = no winners.
It's obvious people who hate their own are projecting personal insecurities to others
I honestly feel like ASAP Rocky is the rebound from the Arabian guy she was dating. He probably really broke her heart because she seemed really into him and Rocky was probably there to console her and she just don’t care to be single anymore especially after her on/off situation got a porn star pregnant (Drake) maybe she just settling idk these are just my silly thoughts lol 🤷🏽♀️
@Gina Harvey YESSSS girl! I think the Arabian guy is married now if I’m not mistaken.
Whewww her Arab boyfriend checked off all boxes for the perfect man
@Gina Harvey how do you know this?
I love how the insult to drake is that he is dating a porn star, not that he's a pedophile lol. Such underlying/subconscious misogynoir at work lmao.. Even when ur trying to insult the man, a random woman gets the hit
@@tangy_t33yeah why would he settle for old Rihanna like be for real she just fetish for him. Rihanna was never in love with him
I love when you spoke about the “quick forgiveness” aspect too people are so quick to be like oh just forgive and I be like NO lol they don’t deserve my forgiveness
Most ppl have been conditioned to be colorists period!!!
Great topic! I most definitely experience colorism with my ex. He is Caucasian and I was fine he would say things that were races that I would need to check home on and he will defend himself. And when his business partners will say something racist like for example one time he told me I look like a homeless. Smh 🤦🏽♀️ we were in New York City and I had an smoothie in my hand. After those couple of instances I no longer felt safe.
You’re the first to speak on this and I’ve been telling ppl this for a minute. Kehlani and Rih had me lookin at them sideways lol. Thank you for this, also you’re stunning to watch! I love your content on Instagram and now on UA-cam. Soon on Patreon 😍
💯💯me too
Dating in the lgbt community and being feminine darkskin more then masculine is literally horrible I had a lot a lot of weird sketchy things happen to me but truly knowing your value and not settling down for any boy and standing out for yourself is the one of the best value my big sis taught me and I’m a Rihanna navy and a full amount of real navys knows where you coming from and understand itt fully 🖤🖤
I appreciate your commentary so much. This has been on my mind ever since I saw the first hint that they were hanging out. I'm doing my best to unlearn all bigotry, not just that which harms me. But when I realized that some folks have no reciprocity, I stopped worrying about those particular individuals. I was legit praying for Tyrese's most 2nd wife until I thought about how open he'd been about his colorism and narcissism all these years. So it was a choice. I'm happy for someone to find my body attractive, but I want no parts of a man who's fatphobic. Seems to me we should be building a larger network to make life healthy for all. As a dark skinned woman, I must give a shout-out to your gorgeous complexion, Mayowa.
thank you for this!! and yes youre right there's no need investing time into people who are still going to be abusive to us. and yes thank you for also speaking on men who are fatphobic/anti fat. thank you for the compliment!!
You are Nigerian in the best way ❤✊🏾🇳🇬
For 1) your skin is absolutely gorgeous! You are working that top. For 2) Rhianna stay dating these misogynistic colorist men. It’s like she has major daddy issues and she can’t help herself. I hope she learns to love herself and realize she can do better. I feel like she gives 0 Fs about colorism because she’s the preferred for a bunch of these rappers. I never got into her and don’t care about her businesses 🤷♀️
So when he also said that light skin women don’t look good with orange or purple did that also qualify him to be a colorist? I am dark skinned and never liked myself in red lipstick. Since there are many lipstick colors produced we can choose whatever we like: browns, orange, tan for me. To me a colorist is yes our own race of people prejudiced against ourselves according to our different hues. In his statement I did not hear him say that dark skinned women are unattractive to him. You like red lipstick on you yet I refuse to wear red on me. As far as the industry unfortunately most female performers that make it and dancers used in videos are of a lighter complexion and that has been a long standing problem from top to the lower levels of the industry.
ASAP rocky said “all lives matter” until his dumbass got arrested 🤣🤣🤣
I didn't realize he had said that, ewww, he's wrong for that. I think riri was settling after splitting up from that billionaire, didn't he marry someone else not long after been with her.
Very much hearing you ma. Very much loving your look you served us. I love your uniqueness and individuality.
You're a beautiful bold vybe! Thank you sis.
On fucking point. ON POINT. also oh my god your make up is top tier
Everytime you make a video, my whole world lights up. You’re really bomb, I like before I watch lol
aww thank youuuu!!!!
You never miss and you’re adorable! As a lighter skin non man, I agree 100%. I also don’t date for this reason amongst other intersections.
He said that???? I guess he never seen Class Act. Kid's love interest in that movie was darker than Wesley Snipes and rockin a red dress with cherry red lipstick.
She was also heavily sexualized in order to be deem desirable. Y couldnt she just be dark and lovely
"He's a 🗑️...He's a person!"😆😆😆
Even most male leaders of black rights movements like the NAACP. etc have light-skinned wives.
I think ASAP was supposed to be a hook up not a relationship. Even she hasn’t claimed him in public but wouldn’t be surprised if he been pushing for them to be an official couple for his benefit. I just hope that he doesn’t use her for her money coz if he disrespects women like that in public what’s stopping him from doing that to her one day?
Rihanna did claim him in public tho.
She has claimed him. They've been pictured all over New York and call the paps to take their pictures.
What you said is all true!!! I ♥️ Rih, but Let’s be honest, rih benefits from kolorism. So it’s no surprise that she’s dating him! As a fellow island gyal, we all know the sentiments of most “red” ppl like rih! So 🤷🏽♀️ it’s not a disappoint or surprise to me.
I have definitely made the mistake of dating a colorist man, who let me know I was not his preference. I used excuses like "oh he's carribean and maybe he will adapt and change with intellectual conversation..." No. Nonsenseeee. The only thing that comes from dating someone who is shamelessly colorist is trauma for the other person involved. *sighs in triggered*
Thank you so much for this video...the 'tall, dark,and handsome' idea hit levels. Society could also view women as 'masculine' if they are dark and beautiful because of that concept 🤯. Sucks. It makes sense why I would be treated a certain type of way automatically. It's embedded in the subconscious.
Unfortunately Rhianna has a brand, there’s also Chris Brown and I wouldn’t be surprised if that Prince she dated wasn’t of the same low opinion towards darker skinned women. Why would Rhianna be attracted to those type of men with that slave-like mentality regarding our beautiful melaninated sisters? Both ASAP and Chris Brown went beyond “preference” and “exotic”, they vocally expressed derogatory wrong opinions against darker skin women, Rhianna is aware of it, does she low key and unconsciously share the same opinions?
You pointed out everything I was thinking. I Love your content 💗
Colorism has so many layers that,I get kind of overwhelmed when talking about it. But fortunately your channel exists.
I have ebony skin. I saw a biography about Rihanna which stated that she was taunted as a child for having a light complexion. When I heard that she had recently reached billionaire status, I thought to myself that she had succeeded in spite of her haters. My next thought
was that my own success was on its way. I was happy that she had done well for herself. At this point, I have dissociated myself from all of this painful colorism. The world is just so effed up. If I dwelled on it I would lose my mind. I can't afford to do that. I don't the have time and emotional energy to waste.
When you do that Nigerian accent it make me giggle - love your content! You’re a breath of fresh air
Rihanna could get herself any race of men. I don’t get the choices she’s making when it comes to her love life. She needs a nice man. He doesn’t have to be any particular color or ethnicity. Choose wisely, Riri.
i thinks because of the men that her dad is she kinda use to it idk but maybe she grow up with those type of guy
and she she got daddy issu so it soo important to grow up with an amazing dad so that you know who to be with
I agree with you, dating is very complicated. You should profile this person. So much about him. What kind of women his ex girlfriends were. Why they broke up. What kind of people this person's friends are... All about this person's family, all their family dynamics... And so on
Rihanna has never done squat music wise or community wise. In fact I think that she has used the black woman card left, right and barely whenever she felt was more beneficial to her. I do not understand why people like her so much. Anyways, girl I am liking you, your shaved eyebrows and your whole looks. 💗
There is so many layers. Yes, she has an extremely inclusive personal brand and has been verbal about wanting as many different people as possible to be reflected and valued in her makeup and clothing lines. But then you have the added nuance of them having romantic/ platonic history, her being from a different country, her specifically being a certain complexion from a Caribbean country, their economic classes, etc. Like I’m not surprised she is with him but I am curious how she came to that decision.
We forget that the most colorist and even racist people we engage on a daily are our own families and so called friends. Even activist have these issues man. So courage is what we need every time we address the issues. I have lost many but I have gained enormously.
Omg you look just like the Singer Celia Cruz!!!
Once again another great narrative, loved the make-up you are really glowing. I relate to what you're saying because I live with it daily.
I had a light bulb moment when you said to check a persons dating type history. I wish i knew that years ago. Would of saved me from so much headache.
I would like to thank you for opening my eyes to this, now I’m hesitant to buy her cosmetics.
Rihanna is disappointing. She needs to be canceled. Her savage shows mostly feature non B people. She’s been compromised.
Black women date colorist men because most black women are colorist too, I don’t see how ppl don’t understand this and furthermore, black women’s self esteem is built off dark skinned women being put down I guess I’m the only one who gets this concept!
I can’t get over your outfit and I like your brows.
I don't get the big deal. That's his opinion if he doesn't think women of a certain shade doesn't suit a certain colour what's the big deal? I'm black but I don't think tattoos look good on black people simply because the contrast doesn't show up as well on dark skin as it does on pale white skin. Just like I think white people don't suit certain colours. Just because someone is black/dark-skinned it doesn't mean we suit all colours. I wore a jacket with some trainers, my friend said the colour of the jacket didn't suit me and ut didn't go with the trainers(I thought it looked good). We went out and a stranger complimented me on the colour of the jacket saying it complimented my skin. Point being everyone has their own opinion, why let someone's opinion like ASAP rocky bother you? Leave him too it.
You were soooo on point. On the other day I tried to debate about this with my darkskin male friend and he went crazy defending his lightskin diva 💀 that really made me feel uncomfortable as fuck.
I love the look! 😍 It's giving 2005 Megan Good. The vision is clear. It's refreshing to see thin brows, the colored in thick caterpillars are played out. About the topic; it's not even melanin rich women forgiving, they're being forced to forgive and forget. The perpetrator won't allow the conversation to progress until they've bullied the melanin rich woman into silence and complacency. And if she isn't silenced she's the aggressor. Anyone who doesn't understand how horrible this is or doesn't speak up when they're in the midst of this madness is part of the problem. Rihanna loves her some abusive men, colorism is verbal abuse, she loves being assaulted, objectified, publicly humiliated. At the end of the day it's just sis and her billions. These males don't care about her. The preferences are treated poorly too. In a twisted way, that's the only reason bm are being called out for their BS and colorist ways, they're treating non Black and light preferences poorly. Before their public disdain began a few years ago, the issue of colorism fell on deaf ears, now it's a commonly used term. Preferences being treated poorly has helped the cause by proxy.
I dont remember Megan good dressing like her in 2005, this make-up style was not even there during that era. She reminds me more of Era Badu.
I do agree with the whole “getting the bag”. Same with the lgbtq community . They do deserve respect but I strongly believe people are pretending to like them to either gain money/clout or look good in people eyes
Asap rocky saying the black women went "crazy" ... And it was "petty" ... And it's not a big deal to him. Yeah typical misogyny words
At first before watching the full video I thought based on a few comments that you were just being sensitive because “it was 7 years ago” but after actually watching the full video, #1 you’re so well spoken and communicate your points so well. #2 You’re absolutely right. The part about “you have the privilege of staying quiet because you don’t have to engage in those messy conversations” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 yup right again. & #3 that part about not having to forgive someone if you don’t want to 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Go tf offffff PERIOD ! I just feel like people don’t watch the full video before commenting or they lowkey colorist themselves cause you said some real shit. 👏🏽🔥
I love how confident u r within yourself to do what makes u feel happy and not to do what society deems is acceptable n that is something a lot of people wish they could do. N btw it’s not a backhand compliment to say your not pretty because I think u r but I value confidence of beauty cause beauty consistently changes within our society but confidence is something that always remains the same
Very well put. People who believe in themselves are so attractive. No matter how much the beauty standards change, having high esteem in yourself will never go out of style.
Love you girl❤
Leave people who don't know people's hearts trump their outer shell. Most people are just FUCK UP😢
This makes me think of 2 things immediately.
1. I expected more from Rihanna. I remember seeing a special on Oprahs channel where Rihanna bought her mom a house. To my surprise and Joy her mother is a beautiful chocolate woman. In my head from then on I assumed she was an ally. Lol that was very naive on my part.
2. When this conversation comes up I ALWAYS think about Tina Knowels and how I believe she is a fake ally. On one hand Kelly Rolland credits Tina with some of her confidence being dark skin woman, citing her talks with Tina about how rare and beautiful chocolate is. On the other hand however, I saw an interview with Mathew knowels admitting when he first saw Tina he thought she was a white woman. That was his initial attraction to her. So.....you mean to tell me you were married to a very deep completed man who was initially attracted to you because he thought you were white for almost 30 years who remind you she only got a divorce from because she found out about his Toddler side baby. It wasn't the colorism. It was the cheating......furthermore you were never an ally. You were a beneficiary until it no longer SERVED you to be with such a mentally sick broken and self hating man. I think this is often the thing with light skin women. Because we are on the other side, its usually very easy to spot the brokenness in colorist men. That cant HELP but to spill over into other aspects of their manhood. Because it's a very delicate deep seated inner hate issue. We get it. The LS women who deal with colorists on the other hand very much like white ppl about Blk ppl problems feel like it isn't their issue. Until it is. Then they all of a sudden have dozens of red flag stories that they thought didn't affect them until in hindsight their able to connect the dots. But as far as I'm concerned at that point it's TOO late. You were already complicit.
BROKENESS is a perf word these guys.
Underrated comment. "it isn't their issue. Until it is" Then they get woke... But when it benefitted them it wasn't a problem.
When Rihanna first came to the states. She said she identified with Mariah Carey as a fellow biracial. That changed because a lot black americans pressure mixed race people into claiming black only. And plenty of self hating mixed race people insist that they are black.
Rihanna to me has always been a mixed woman. She is the preference for black men who don't want to go full white but get the light eyes, light skin and maybe looser hair.
Side note: there are different shades of red and different undertones. It all depends on your undertone and getting the right shade
"He's a trashcan" 😂😂😂😂😂
Me being a lightskin black man I know exactly what u mean most women assume I'm soft for whatever reason without even getting to know me and all my male darkskin friends only date lightskin or flat out white women it's so sad
Let's be real, LOTS of light skinned women date colorist men. Some know their man is colorist, some do not pick up on it. Rihanna, being light with green eyes benefits from colorism. That's just what it is...I side eyed most the men she dated.
I love this video and this voice you have brought out here. Like we need this so bad, Colorist discourse isn’t even in the vocabulary of “leftist” figures/people whatever, which is funny, cause this is an issue that is relevant to all minorities!!
Rihanna has green eyes , light skin, Carribean girl . She benefits from colorism . She’s privilege. But I somewhat agree too bc she was so quick to drop draya wen she made stupid comments about domestic violence bc Rihanna can relate to it but when it came to ASAP rocky she didn’t drop him bc she either doesn’t care or can’t relate despite the women in her family being darker skin. She’s privilege that all I can say .
"acting like you care about people " wow so true , its like the fake love is in style
What's "non-men" please? That sounds as if men are the default. They're not. You can easily say women.
That’s what I’m saying, this whole channel is scary tbh