NEW Ludwig Acro Brass and Acro Copper vs. Acrolite
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Our comprehensive look at the newest additions to Ludwig's Acro family!
Links to purchase are just below:
Ludwig 14x6.5 Acro Brass Snare Drum With Brushed Finish
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/LB654B
Ludwig 14x6.5 Acro Copper Snare Drum With Brushed Finish
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/LC654B
Ludwig Acrolite Snare Drum 14x6.5 Classic
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/LM405C
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Hey. All 3 of these drums have seamless shells. Sorry we didn't make that clear. Have a solid holiday!
Have a SEAMLESS holiday, y'all! 🤣🥰🎄
@@DrummerGrrrl You beat me to it.
These snare drums "seam" to be the BEST snares out there. ;- )
copper sound very organic and probably... the most interesting out of 3
yep...
Tony, I appreciate "Spectacrolite." Even if your coworkers do not.
pun-tastic sir!
Don't encourage him
They sound "supra-"....oh nevermind...
#dadjokes
Came for the snares. Stayed for the kick drum.
She’s a beaut!
@@tinterlande What is it?!
@@timschrieber9741 22x14 Classic Maple!
All three drums sound great but if I had to choose, I would go with the classic Acrolite.
Same here...
Likewise
My favorites are the copper and regular acrolite. Can't believe how great the copper sounds!
Have a 1968 Keystone Badge and a 1976 B/O Badge and love them both.
The brass is warm and has great depth and character
Liked them all, but liking the brass overall. Another great video.
I also gravitate towards the brass. People are always commenting that brass is loud and good for louder playing, but that's not what I do at all. The brass just always sounds so pleasing/not harsh to me
more videos played/done like this please!
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Love the copper but prefer the 5” one not shown here, it’s a bit snappier but still warm!
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Wow that brass sounds great at both tunings. Super impressed, but then again I like a dryer snare sound. Copper was a little ringy at times but had the most interesting tone outta the three for sure....but that aluminum cranked is so addicting. Nothing like it.
1. Copper
2. Brass
3. Aluminum
Ludwig is confusing with their pricing and model organization. If these are all “Acrolites,” shouldn’t they all have the same hardware? I don’t mind the different shell thicknesses; we have to trust that the designers chose the best thickness for each type of alloy to give the characteristic Acrolite response, or maybe to allow for more contrast in tone between them if they were too much alike. (I dunno; I wasn’t on the design team. Maybe the thinner shells are just to keep the cost down, or maybe Aluminum has to be a bit thicker to work well?)
I would expect them to be fairly close in price if they are all considered part of the Acrolite line. And I’d expect there to be a significant price difference between Acrolite and Supraphonic lines. I don’t know offhand what that difference is, but Ludwig has caused me numerous attacks of sticker shock.
I’m grateful that the drum dept manager of a store that no longer exists once let me unbox a brand new 6.5” Black Beauty so i could tune it as I’d want to use it, and compare it with a Premier 6.5” lacquered brass drum. I spent several hours experimenting with tuning on both drums before buying the significantly less expensive Premier drum. It sounded and felt unquestionably better. The only reason it took so long to realize that was I had to overcome certain reputation-derived prejudices and expectations. I had to wrap my head around the Holy Grail of snare drums being bested by the drum that the shop wanted to get rid of in order to finish their association with the Premier company (it was the last Premier drum the shop ever bought and sold).
I love my 2000-ish Classic Maple 13/16/24 kit, and my 1969 5.5” Supraphonic, which gets the most gig use these days. But Ludwig prices are just goofy.
TMI amigo…
When the AcroBronze?
Acrocopper vs Copper phonic video would be great...
Such a thorough review! Keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just picked up the copper and it’s nuts how good it sounds, i’m in love!
i'll take all 3, kind sir. you can't go wrong with any ludwig snare IMO. I have used a 70s 400, 90s 402, black beauty, COB supra, 20s NOB, and a blacrolite from the 80s. All sound incredible. There's magic in those machines used to make the shells i tell ya.
Anyone remember the Ludwig Super Sensitive? I have one in mint condition and still sounds amazing. Surprisingly don't hear much about these , maybe because they originated in the 60's?
The brass is one snappy sumbitch! Mee likee! I made myself a Christmas present last year and bought the aluminum one from you guys, and I have to agree with you that it has become my favorite snare to play. Not only does it sound great, but it feels good as well. Nice vid!
Copper just has the sweetest tone of all of them. It sits so sweet on top of the kit sound.
I can see the traditional acrolite sitting better in a band mix though.
Honestly, I wish they made them more similar to the acro, they’re different enough to just be in a different series. Also, a thicker brass shell would be amazing, I don’t know why they thinned these two out
thinner= cheaper
Love it! Thx 😊 The Copper is my fav.
So... the difference is about 17% shell thickness difference between these and the Supraphonics. Would be super cool to hear these versus their Supraphonic big brothers. I do like the fact that the more expensive copper and brass come with the keystone badge as opposed to the olive/blue. I've never cared for that.
My great aunt knew I was a drummer so she asked me if I wanted her son's old drum from back when he was in the school band. "Of course"( ! ) I replied. So I go to the closet and spy a black hardshell case and pull it out. It was what Ludwig called the "UFO" setup and case which also included a stand and a Gladstone practice pad. I had one already from MY days in the school band, so I figured that the snare was probably the same as mine which was a cheap-o steel and chrome plated Supraphonic knock-off.
So I open the case and see this snare with a matte finish and original heads that looked like new. So I tuned it and started running through some snare exercises. The sound was FAR better than mine, and it had some pretty incredible sensitivity and clarity as well.
I had no idea what an Acrolite snare was at that time, I just knew that it sounded great and seemed to work well with my style of playing. As I was looking it over, I noticed a stamp on the inside of the shell. Upon closer inspection I could see that the stamp read "April 1964".
And THAT's how I acquired my first vintage snare. w00t!!!
These guys' mixing game is on a league of their own
Thanks Clau, you are too kind! 👊
Thanks for the advice of putting an INDe labs throw off on my older acrolite with the p85. It no longer loosens every time I play it.
Yeah, those p85s are garbage.
The brass sounds amazing
Copper for sure. awesome look and great sound.
Nice choice Rich!
They all sound good. That copper one looks great with that kick drum.
Copper all the way, baby! The brass is also nice (I already own a Black Beauty), but I've never been a big fan of the aluminum Acrolite sound.
Great sound!
What I’ve always loved about the Acrolite, is that it’s a simple drum, that does what it needs to do. No fancy anything about it, just great sound. That’s what I hear and see with these new drums. Simple, with the best sound out there.
I realize that I'll likely tick a lot of people off with my comments relative to Ludwig and their revered snares. They sound amazing... there is no doubt. I'm also all about capitalism, and companies should be able to charge whatever the market will bear. However... the only difference between these drums is the material, the strainer and the badge. The lugs are identical. The hoops are identical. With this said... it it really justified to charge a $200-$270 premium for a different metal type (aluminum vs. Brass/Copper)? I mean it's not like you're going from pot metal to gold here. Also... these don't have the provenance of a Black beauty, yet cost nearly the same price. That doesn't pass the sniff test in my opinion. Would you rather pay $630 for an Acrobrass (1mm shell thickness), or $710 for a Black Beauty (1.2mm shell thickness)? You'll be able to sell the BB for some good coin in 30 years, because it will retain it's value. These.... likely not. I guess I don't get it. Acrolite is by far the best bang for the buck out of the snares in this comparison. Good luck on these, Ludwig.
Totally agree.
imho I do not get worrisome about say material or thickness. Let your ears determine your choice. It is not thickness for example that makes a violin valuable. The Black Beauty is in its own class for design and sound. The acros are professional quality and sound in their own niche. Prices in past were really great but Ludwig realized the market will recognize quality. I still would pay for the Acro because I like it’s uniqueness. If you are a trader then the Black Beauty may be an investment….but most of us buy a drum because we love to play on it now and not worry about tomorrow. Thanks
Differences in how these shells need to be molded into shape might justify a difference in price.
@@6393dudeI could see that if the shells were pounded by hand but the machines used to press the shells could care less between aluminum or copper and brass.
@@Assimilator702 What I mean is they may have to have separate machines for different kinds of metal, some of which may cost more to operate than others. Bronze for instance can't really be forged like steel can, so I would assume they would need different equipment for that.
all beautiful drums but for the money I'd personally rather spend a couple extra bucks on the phonics. its great to have more flavors though. another great vid!
Ludwig Best snare drums there are!
Yeahh exactly ! And Ludwig best bass drum Awesome sound
I really enjoyed the sound of all three snares. But I think I like the copper the best!
Great video as usual. I have a 5X14 Black Galaxy Acro-love the aluminum but really dig the warmth and round tones of the copper!
Copper is the best metal for snares to my ear. The don’t sound as metallic as the others, but still have that bite. I’m holding out for a 5.5 one of these hopefully.
Them Snares are Fire
Really liked the Brass.
Yeah, the copper has a nice tone.
I like brass best,looks good to.
Great drumming😃
Thanks! 😃
The regular acro was the one for me! With a slight bit of dampening.
Can't go wrong with that!
Giving us a couple center hits and rim shots without the snares engaged is nice, you should do that with all snare videos. It makes it much easier to hear the differences.
Great video comparison of the three!
I was set on picking up a Supraphonic yesterday and ended up taking the Copper Acro home due to the way it sounds.
I've never been a fan of brass. I give the copper a slight edge over the acro. I still prefer chrome.
I LIKE THIS GUY... DOESNT DRONE ON FOR 5 MINUTES WITH SNARES OFF, 5 hits is all you need well done sir. the first clip of the brass ARE YOU KIDDING ME, the guts oh how i want one now....
Interesting notion to go with a thinner shell, which should give a bit less mass to the drum versus a 6.5 Black Beauty/Bronzephonic, which will, in my opinion, give a somewhat lower (or "fatter" in drum terms) fundamental note to the shell. This is a characteristic of the Acrolite that I have played for years (I also have a COB Super 400, Bronzephonic, 70's Supra to compare). The drums sound great to my ears, all three. Ludwig makes the best snare drums, in my opinion.
I like them all but the alum. has a brighter ping tune high i think but seams more universal for different kinds of music.
My favorite was the Copper. In High tuning I'm sold.
That hihat though!
They're all good, but copper was the best sounding to my ears.
It's a great sounding drum!
Would like to have seen a bronze model, because the very good Ludwig bronze is very expensive.
Here you are again.
Love your playing Tony always so tasteful
You’re too kind!
All three are great but my preference is the copper. In fact, the copper was my fave by a ways.
I have an old 14x5 Ludwig Acrolyte and it's a decent snare. It can accommodate pretty much any style of music I'm playing. Something sounds strange about the audio. Listened with good headphones and the initial strikes before the rimshots seem strange. Maybe it's just me.
How so?
@@tinterlande Example is at 3:10 with the 3 hits. It's probably me. I just listened with my computer speakers and I don't hear it as much. I do suffer from tinnitus in my right ear (drummer's plague) so that can cause some of what I'm hearing or not hearing.
I love the Copper, warm and sweet
Over always thought I'd love a copper snare, I've not ever had a chance to really try one.
Question? I have a 8x14 raw brass ludwig snare...How thick is the shell? I always thought it was 1.6mm?
Love what you do for us drummer 👏👏👏🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🥁🥁🥁🇨🇦🇨🇦
Thank you Remy!
I'd love that brass one if it wasn't 2 bills more than the aluminum. Damn.
That’s why I bought the Yamaha brass recording custom.
The Brass Acrolite was my favorite
Should I sell my Supra to get an Acrolite? haha The classic Acrolite sounds great in both tunings but the brass on the low tuning is so dry and naturally compressed. VERY tempting! ...Hey! Video suggestion: I want a shootout between discontinued kits of renown. Premier Genista, Yamaha Oak Custom, Tama Granstar, etc. Would be so cool.
Can santa deliver those 3 beautiful babies to my door i won’t swear again i promise 😎😎👏👏🤟🏻🤟🏻🥁🥁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Like I just read from another comment on the net, "there are Ludwig snare drums...then there is everything else." The aluminum is my favorite.
Damm Tony you have some pretty solid rim shots 👍
You got a like just for the funny intro! Haha
Kick is stealing the show
22x14 Classic Maple, always a good decision!
The copper and aluminum sound great. At the higher tuning the aluminum to me was better sounding. I think for the versatility and value you can’t beat the aluminum. The copper is a little pricey for me for what it offers.
I like the brass. 😎
Copper snares just sound better than any other shell material, they record better, sound better in the overheads. That being said, these all sound pretty great
Aluminum all the way for me . . . still. The others sound killer too though.
Can't argue with that!
very nice! The latest (current) Acrolites are 10 lugs, yes?
The 14x6.5" version, yes. The 14x5" has 8 lugs.
The aluminum sounds best to my ears. I get bored of brass and bronze and always end up going back to the acrolite or supra. Acrolite over supra.
Aluminum is such a good material for snare drums.
@@drumcenternh Yes, I've purchased an acrolite and an acrophonic from yall.
Hey look, new Acros with a Supra price!
5x14 plz
I know this video is not that recent , but this hi hats sounds great , what are those?
15" Zildjian New Beats
awesome , thanks guys , now I know why it sounded familiar to me , you are the best@@drumcenternh
On the Ludwig Acro Copper. Thinking about getting one of those. You said Higher tuning on the one clip. Do you know what interval you used? Tunebot settings. Really like the sound. Thank you
I love me some Ludwig Acrolite snare drums and that copper version kicked ass! However, I think I prefer the original size of the old Acro's. Wasn't it a 5"x 14"? These 6.5" sound choked to me. HOWEVER!! Once again, I'm listening to this demo without earbuds...so, I may have to come back here and amend this comment.
Yeah choked isn’t how I would describe them. Make sure to check back with your earbuds. Nothing wrong with the 5” deep Acrolite, I have one of those too!
My understanding of the difference between a classic supraphonic & classic acrolite was chrome plating & 10 lugs on supra, matte finish and 8 lugs on acro.
These drums have 10 lugs so why would they be considered acrolites?
What is the difference between the acro-cooper and the cooper-phonic?
These are great sounding drums! But what's the difference between the Acro Copper and the Copperphonic?
.2mm
With you on the copper model…richer, full-bodied … the Guiness of the three.
What’s size and finish on that kick? Vintage bronze mist?
Exactly 👌
These sound spectacular. But, at the price they're asking....I just assume spend the extra $200 for a Dunnett.
Could never tell what copper does better than brass
If the brass has more bite, how does it compare to the standard COA Supraphonic .. ?
So here I was foolishly thinking "Hmmm...perhaps The Acro Brass will be a poor mans Black Beauty." But at $700? Nope.
By the way, I have a 14x6.5 Acrolite Classic and I replaced the lugs that came on it with Imperial lugs. Looks badass!
Tasty grooves, man. They are all great, but the brass speaks to me a little more… if I was able, that’s the one I would choose. Great video!
Thank you and good choice!
@@drumcenternh feel free to send me one of each. Thrown in a regular 6” supraphonic, too
WOW VERY NICE!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
warm sound level brass >copper> acrolite
What kind of hi hats awesome video thanks
Zildjian 15" New Beats
@@drumcenternh thanks 😊
To my ears the original acrolite sounds the best out of the three. Hard to do better than a classic.
Will bronze be next ?
the original Acro sounds best. the Brass is great, too. I could take or leave the Copper.
I bought an Acrophonic from you last year. How would you say that compares to these? Hard to tell based on the recorded sound vs. live listening to my Acrophonic.
1. Caroline. 2. Copper…all great!
If you're gonna pay this much for an acrolite brass or copper, you might as well go all the way to the Supraphonic snares and get a Black Beauty or a Supraphonic Copper.
I have the 6,5 Acrolite but it is too dry for me. any tips on nhow to get a bit more of a tone from it?
the room microphone is missing...
Playing examples are short on this one, didn’t make sense to switch back and forth. That being said, I am favoring that Shure condenser on this mix which is a very natural picture of the drum sound.
Is the copper and brass also a seamless shell and are the Hoops the 2.3mm
Yes. All of that was mentioned in the video.