Good breakdown. That Team Up North just does a better job of handling adversity. They've been the better team for three years. No excuses. On the Ohio State side, Day is a good coach and I like him, but this might not really be the right job for him. He looks stressed, he cares about the noise, his team is a reflection of him. There's so much pressure in Columbus.
I was in attendance for this game, I've never seen so few OSU fans for this game, I've never heard the stadium louder, I think the idea of the big house being quiet has completely flipped. That atmosphere was electric and intimidating. The new press boxes and much bigger video boards are holding in tons of noise. That place was rocking.
has 5000 more seats than the next biggest stadium and then they also always add like 3-4000 more somehow. it has the capacity to be the loudest. btw. i had a friend go there. so my questio is, can jim harbaugh hear you now? :)
@@Johnadams20760 yeah, my uncle went there and it did use to be kinda quiet because nothing was keeping the noise in. It's just completely changed. That is a hostile environment for an opponent to be in.
@@Johnadams20760crazy thing is attendance was only 110,000 this game. Not the 114,000 that the stadium can technically hold. Was the loudest crowd I’ve seen in the past couple seasons as a season ticket holder.
The way the Michigan team rallied around each other after the Zinter injury is not being talked about enough. Momentum was swinging to Ohio State around then, but Zinter went down and the team went berzerk.
As a ND fan, a defensive back intercepting a pass to shut down Ohio State's last drive was such a mix of gladness for them and what could have been for us. Almost the same look as our DB missing an interception earlier in the year. Oof
A thought on Ryan day; one of the many reasons that so much weight is put on the Michigan game and he's getting so much criticism is its the one game on their schedule that they don't have a MASSIVE talent advantage. You don't have to be a good coach to beat Michigan st or Minnesota with that roster. The measure of a coach is what happens when the talent is fairly equal. And in those games his record is unimpressive
It was a great game. I'm a Buckeye fan so it was tough to take another loss to Michigan. That said, Michigan has been the better team the last 3 years. I am old enough to have experienced the pendulum swing one way and the other over the decades. It happens. OSU had a tremendous run against UM from 2000 to 2019, winning 17 times in that period. Tressel went 9-1 vs UM. Luke Fickel lost in his interim year. Then Urban went 7-0 vs UM. The Ryan Day won his first game in 2019. Ryan would have won the game in 2020 but it was cancelled due to Covid. But credit Michigan for being patient with Harbaugh and now he has won the last 3. Harbaugh is now 3-5 vs OSU but these last 3 years have been impressive because UM also has one of the better teams in the country. So now we will see how Ohio State responds. All that said the Buckeyes played well and it was not a blowout like last year. The difference in this game was QB play. OSU had an inexperienced first-year guy and UM had a good veteran. Congrat to my Michigan friends. I hope we get you next year. As for Ryan Day being fired that is nothing more than OSU fans letting the rivalry get to them. Yes, it's a big deal but you don't just go fire a coach who is 56-7 in his 5 years of coaching. Unless you know for fact that you can bring back Urban I'm not sure getting rid of Ryan Day solves any issues.
Ohio St had one of the longest runs of dominance in the rivalry for 20 yrs. Usually the swings were 3-4 games than every other.. than the other team has a run of 3-4 in a row. Best rivalry in sports. And it's been rejuvenated. I was tense all game. Great game, outcome was better for me obviously. But impressed by Ohio St defense this yr in The Game
HOW YA FIGURE THAT bS?! College kids have a short memory. Now the momentum is back w ttun!!!! After years of BUCKEYE COACH DOMINATION!!!!THE KRYPTONITE TO WOLVERINES.....ARE BUCKEYES!!!
@@blucaptain The losing streak was extended due to what OSU fans are clamouring to do to Ryan Day right now. Michigan made a bad hire with Rich Rodriguez and followed it up with Brady Hoke. They just terminated their coach with no replacement plan.
Congratulations on getting to Ann Arbor. Once you go one time, you affirm your fandom for life. There is NOWHERE equal to the Big House (and Ann Arbor in general).
No Head Coach…. Lost your best Offensive Lineman. Lost your best Corner Back. Ryan Day just got punked by a coach who was assuming 3 roles as Offensive Line Coach, Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach.
@marciasken in high school, we had new signs every week for our games. Why can't the #2 team in the nations arguably the biggest game of the year change their signs? This was a playoff game, so I would expect both teams to do everything to win this game. These are d1 college athletes, and some will go to the next level, no reason they can't come up with new signs for this game.
Outside of Marvin Harrison and maybe JTT name a first round pick on Ohio States entire roster? Don’t worry I’ll wait… Y’all have Corum, JJ, Will Johnson, and Zak Zinter that are all mocked to be first round picks as well as another 3-4 second round picks on your roster as well in Sainristil, Moore, Nugent and Johnson. Not to mention y’all were literally favored to win and had home field advantage as well as 80% of the media picking you to win, and half of those 80% picking you to win by a landslide.
@@TheFatherof2and how many 5 stars does OSU have compared to Michigan? This is a horrible excuse because it literally shows how much better Michigan is despite having inferior recruiting.
In 2021, Michigan beat Ohio State because of physicality and efficiency. The Wolverines dominated the Buckeyes on both lines of scrimmage and moved the ball up and down the field with rampant efficiency through both the run and passing game. In 2022, Michigan beat Ohio State because of explosive plays. Michigan forced Ohio State to meticulously drive the ball down the field with consistency while generating 5 plays of 40+ yards themselves. While the last 2 seasons felt like Michigan taking advantage of a matchup and winning through that aspect (lines of scrimmage in 2021 and secondary in 2022), this felt different. Michigan beat Ohio State by just straight up being the better team. The Wolverines stayed on schedule offensively more effectively and even for as well played the game generally was, Michigan always both responded and/or stayed a step or two ahead. Their quarterback didn’t make mistakes, their run game stepped up more, and their defense got crucial stops and turnovers. Josh nailed it, Michigan’s entire operation is just a little ahead of Ohio State’s right now, and this team is absolutely capable of winning a national championship. They’ve been the most consistently dominant team all season and should probably be #1 in the playoff rankings tomorrow, and I say that as a Georgia fan.
As a Michigan fan, that is 100% spot minus us being #1. Until someone De-thrones Georgia, they are the best team. It would be a great game if Michigan and Georgia played.
Prior to the alleged sign-stealing in 2021 Michigan had an average rank of 31 in points allowed under Harbaugh. Since the alleged scheme began that has risen to an average rank of 5th. Correlation doesn’t equal causality, but the timing of Michigan’s rapid defensive rise is a little suspect. Outside of their 2016 season the team was middling defensively, and now they are one of the most dominant units in FBS. In addition, 2021 was when Michigan signed Harbaugh to a massive four-year extension that paid him $7.3M per year - and came after a woeful COVID-shortened 2020 in which rumors began that the coach might be looking to return to the NFL. This was furthered in 2022 when Harbaugh interviewed with the Minnesota Vikings over their head coaching vacancy, and was linked to the Las Vegas Raiders job, before ultimately deciding to return to Michigan. So as a total package we have a coach who was under a lot of pressure to win to justify his new contract, with a history of breaching NCAA rules, and at least flirtations with the NFL to potentially return. It’s far from a smoking gun, but it is a breeding ground where sign-stealing could have become a viable option to meet these goals.
@@marciasken Michigan scoring defense ranks under Harbaugh 2015: 4th 2016: 2nd 2017: 9th 2018: 14th 2019: 19th 2020: 93rd 2021: 7th 2022: 6th 2023: Currently 1st Michigan had a good defense every year under Harbaugh outside of 2020, which was a COVID year with conference isolation, no fans, cancelled games, etc. Just an odd year.
@marciasken Michigan has always had solid defenses under Harbaugh, but our offense has been missing an elite QB and several other pieces, which we have now. Covid year was a complete disaster for Michigan, but that is the one outlier, and after that year, they got a new defensive coordinator and new defensive identity
You’re a fool! How about Harbaugh went and hired McDonald from the Ravens. That had a lot to do with it. But even when Don Brown was the DC they still had top 10 defenses. They just couldn’t match up with the good teams on defense. Michigan has had just as many guys go to the NFL the last 9 years as OSU had. I can’t stand when idiots just speculate
That pick early on was the difference. Can’t make that kinda mistake in a rivalry game on the road. Especially when you don’t have a special QB who can make up for that kind of mistake
In Regards to Ryan Day, I need to bring this up for Ohio State and Michigan Fans Sake: What we're asking about him now is the EXACT SAME Question we were asking about Jim Harbough 3 Years Ago. What's different now is that the Roles have been Reversed, and now we're going to see if Ohio State is as patient with Ryan Day as Michigan was with Jim Harbough. And to me, that will Speak VOLUMES about Ohio State compared to Michigan Now. It was a Great Game, No Question about it, but now the question shifts to what Ohio State does now. AND ALL EYES ARE WATCHING.
What can they do? They out recruit the entire conference and have for decades. They out spend the entire conference by a landslide. They have the best facilities. Etc etc. The only thing Ohio State can do is pray that the new additions to the conference actually do raise the level of competition. Significantly.
Well put. I’ll be the first to admit that I was one of the people saying that we should be rid of Harbaugh in 2019 because he had 5 chances to beat OSU and the closest we got was 2016. But I’ve never been happier to be wrong. 2020 was rough, but I’m glad that the higher ups had faith in his system and his vision. I feel that Ryan is a good coach and he can cement himself as a great one, especially because the pressure of THE GAME won’t be as high next year.
OSU should be and will be fine, they recruit the best and 2 of Michigans wins against Day aren’t legit due to the cheating, I’m not dismissing the cheating so Day gets a pass from me, Michigan won this fair and square and OSU had a chance to win the game as it want a blowout. When the stars align so with the qb, offense and defense OSU will be even better and win a natty with Day. We’ll be fine vs Michigan cause they’re going to the dark ages and OSU wins next year at home, we’re good
For OSU it really comes down to one thing. When they have a semi mobile top tier QB the offense shines and puts up 40 or more each game. Their offense is not built for pro style smashmouth. Now that they have a really strong defense, if they get someone who is more in line with Fields and Stroud and remember to keep using guys like Trayanum who is a better back than Henderson, they're NC level. They should leave the coaching tree alone except getting an OC that is more in line with the previous one but keep Hartline as he's their best recruiter.
Blake is a Michigan legend. As a Michigan fan, 1 I hate but respect that OSU team. Don’t like Day but I believe he talked to Zinters parents. That was classy. 2 I am conflicted at the scandals. Because these kids are just that good, driven and focused. That last part is what I celebrate.
As a Michigan fan it became a lot harder to hate Day after seeing an ESPN piece on his dads suicide and his work around mental health. I actually felt a little bad for him on Saturday as much as I hate to admit it
As a Michigan fan and HS coach this was a great commentary. Ryan Day has to what Jimmy was forced to do define the Identity of his team, and live or die by that culture. My undefeated teams required me to chew on the loss for months like dry beef jerky.🤨 Great coaches hate to loose more than the love to win.
@@kendallandrews8691you’re right! They still played in the rose bowl game like they would have anyway. Difference is winning the rose bowl might have gave them a split title with Nebraska. Although that 95’ cornhuskers were fierce.
Let's all remember that all of this "sign stealing" hull-a-baloo started with Ryan Day hiring his brother-in-law to dig up dirt on Michigan. And then the Big 10 penalizing the Wolverines without any kind of hearing of finding of facts. Michigan was simply pissed ... because the press simply isn't covering this story in a balanced way.
@vw8886 no, it started with Jim Tressel paying players, getting force retired, then urban Meyer doing the same thing, being force retired, and Jim Tressel getting let go from Youngstown state for being the same scum bag he's always been. OSU is just pathetic and needed to hire a PI to find a reason why they are terrible. gtfo
Wait, Michigan fans actually believe that story. Omg I thought the jokes about the Michigan media cult weren’t this serious but damn, u won the game & will face no further punishments until another Harbaugh suspension next year if he decides to stay. Now that u have no reason to care if Michigan was cheating please actually look into the origins of that story & come to your own conclusions
@@anthonytitoneyeah, no one cares about what you think you know anymore. Michigan embarrassed ohio again without a head coach, let alone needing stolen signs to beat your weak AF team. Good luck in the Motor City Bowl 🤣
People also wanted Harbaugh out. I said the same thing you are saying about Day. Harbaugh needs to stay. A lot of fans go off of emotion not logic. Day is a good coach. Good luck finding someone better.
@irish6783 No he isn't. He has full control of Michigan and it's his dream job. He would never work for the McCaskeys, and they only like doofuses that are "yes" men.
Josh's word is, "Organization." Michigan's word is "The Team." Besides the skill and the plans and the plays and the coaching, Michigan has just plain out-cultured OSU for three straight years now.
As a casual college football fan, this game has always been the biggest game of the year for as far as I can remember. For whatever reason, you didn’t even notice the southern rivalries in the northeast & until the last decade or so, you didn’t have outlets to watch SEC/ACC football takes like this channel. Maybe Notre Dame vs USC was second, but a distant one. College football is a regional sport.
I don't disagree with the idea that slam dunk hires are few and far between, but you seem to have forgotten one other recent slam dunk hire--and it was one made by Ohio State. Urban Meyer had won two championships when he was hired and went on to win another with Ohio State. There's nobody really out there with that pedigree now though, unless they pull Dabo away from Clemson somehow (Saban and Smart are clearly never leaving their respective schools).
@@DudeEggs right, but he wasn’t a national championship coach coming in. We’re talking about a coach who has won a natty and then went to another program and won a natty there too. There’s like maybe 3 coaches I think could do that rn.
Biggest Issue: GET MARVIN THE BALL. You literally have a roadmap for how to do this. In the 2021 natty, Davanta Smith carved us up by running all over the field pre-snap. It’s very difficult to bracket or double-team somebody when they are the fastest player in college football and you’re running thru linebackers to stay with them. Hand the ball off to him, run screens, put him in the freaking wildcat… do whatever you have to do to make sure he gets the ball 20-25 times. Not 5 times. 🤯🤯🤯
I said in the beginning of the year that the Turner transfer was under appreciated. Their special teams lost 2 big guys but were able to have very competent re-fills.
Whats crazy about Michigan is that the offensive play calling had been compromised since Harbaugh has been out and they’ve still been good enough to win. Hopefully we don’t call 40 inside zone reads for 1-2 yards in the playoffs
it's rare-sometimes quarterbacks do win titles with non-elite organizations. See Jameis Winston and Cam Newton. QB level of play is the reason Ohio State has dominated in Big 10 most of the time in the past 2 decades. McCord reminds me of Todd Boeckman level of QB play. He just does not go through progressions like good qbs need to. Maybe he will take a leap next year but typically you would just go to a more explosive, younger QB after losing out with this talented of a roster. Day will not be fired and that talk is stupid. The one thing that is crazy from the game is that they did not force feed the ball to Harrison on easy completions- he is a monster. Was disappointed that Harrison did not try to tackle, fight through, or play defense on that first terrible interception. The missed OPI on Cornelious Johnson was a game killer on the last long drive by MI. Overall a much better performance than last year from Buckeyes. I am curious how much losing Kevin Wilson took out of our offensive performance this year. I'm pretty sure he contributed a ton to the offenses in the previous Day years and I wonder if Hartline still needs to grow to fill that void. Just because Hartline is an awesome recruiter and WR coach doesn't mean he filled that void. Justin Frye doesn't seem to be delivering on the hype and the special teams clearly need an overhaul with the liability they are.
I’ve attended the Game. I went to Virginia Tech and experienced Enter Sandman countless times. And I’m telling you the Indy 500 is the peak of sports. You can’t even phantom what that shit is like unless you go. 350,000+ it’s WILD
A little disappointed that Farmageddon turned Snowmageddon wasn’t talked about. That game was so much fun to watch. Abu Sama was The Dawg. Roll Clones!!!
When your coach is soft, the team is soft. You fire Day because he’s faking tough. Ohio State will always get the talent and you can hire great assistants. You find the head coach with the disposition that you want for your whole program. If OSU wants a team in Day’s image you keep him. It’s not about his record when they only play two good teams every year.
Look how Josh Pate (A Soft SEC yet objective commentator) understands how important The Game is. Critique Ryan Day yet still give Michigan credit. The most objective college football commentator and this as a Michigan fan!
16:17 You mention Saban as a Grand slam hire with an established championship pedigree, but you forget that OSU made the more/most recent Grand slam hire in Urban Meyer. They have reason to think they can somehow catch lightning in a bottle again, but they should beware that hires like Jimbo haven't worked out.
@@stevesalisbury3657 I didn't say one was better, I said OSU made the grand slam hire more recently. And Meyer definitely was a grand slam hire - I don't think OSU has hired a better coach during my lifetime.
I disagree. For Michigan fans we’ve seen our quarterbacks getting outplayed for years. With JJ there’s a certain confidence in him and he delivers. Put in one of our old QBs with this team (Shea Patterson, O’Korn, Mccaffrey, Brandon Peters, Wilton Speight, Joe Milton). If we win it all I’d say JJ delivered us a championship, just as much if not more as Donovan Edwards, Blake Corum, Sainristil
regarding the slam dunk head coach hire, other than saban, it's only urban meyer. I say this as a michigan fan, but he's by far the best head coach I've seen. Examples below. Utah before urban: 5-6 Utah after Urban: 12 - 0 their second year. Florida before urban: 7-5 Florida after urban: championship second year, and 3, 13-1 seasons in 6 years OSU before urban: 8 - 4 OSU after urban: Undefeated first year, championship by 3rd year, and 83-9 overall. Dude may have off the field problems, but as a coach there's literally nobody better except nick saban (and i give saban his respect due to being consistently dominant and building a dynasty). In my opinion he's waiting for his opportunity with a USC or A&M perhaps. He's not gonna go back to the B1G though
OSU has been beating up on some historically bad Wolverines teams over the last two decades. Harbaugh lost his first five but he is getting close to evening up the series against some great Buckeye teams. When the playing field is level, Michigan dominates.
I thought Urban Meyer was a better coach (college) than Jim but Jims a better coach (college) than Ryan Day at least for this type of game. I would hate to see Ryan Day fired because I believe every year he is developing his players more and more and is developing as a coach more and more. I think Ohio State is headed in the right direction, just need to be patient. Ryan Day is fairly new to primetime college football and being a head coach, give him time.
The thing is.. Jim took over a Michigan program that was the worst in history. Urban was already building a juggernaut at the time. Get those 2 coaches on even sides and I bet Jim would come out the winner
@@bk6555 Somewhere where there's less pressure and the expectations aren't insane. He could go to a MAC team and coach forever , like Frank Solich did.
He’s right about “it’s a team “ a former Detroit Tiger pitcher said the reason they lost the 2012 WS is because they didn’t have a team leader! Can you believe that?! Miggy was the man but also Verlander. Damn
Michigan is a solid team where if you blitz too much on defense it turns into Penn State getting ran by. However, you have to get after JJ and not just with 4 because he'll leak out and make a couple plays. He had his second worse QBR of the season against the blitz. Problem was OSU only ran 4 blitzes. Not to mention the abysmal LB play from OSU and that was the game. The first INT was huge and gifted UM 7 points and set the tone for the game. You can't let UM get up by 10, they'll just sit on the ball the rest of the game.
OSU fans consider this a down year and want to fire a coach when they go 11-1, lol. On the other hand, Michigan fans get a couple wins under their belt and think they're an elite program, lol.
Josh, you make a good point that one game shouldn't define a coach. But, as you said, Ryan Day has six losses that matter: three at the championship level, and three at the rivalry level. Both are arguably more impactful to both the program and the fanbase than any other regular season game normally would be. So yes, he might be a really damn good coach, but if his ceiling is being unable to win the games that DO matter more than anything else, then how good of a coach is he, really? In the context of sports as a whole, it's not the easy matchups that matter. It's the hardest, toughest, weirdest moments that really test your mental toughness, as you mentioned. As a Michigan fan, I personally don't think OSU fans calling for Ryan Day's head is an overreaction, but I also think it's invalid in some ways. Michigan has the deepest, toughest team in college football this year. Period. Ohio couldn't handle us even at our best because, as you said, they're player-reliant rather than player-led.
Ryan Day is a very good coach. He may even be an excellent coach. I think he's about as good a coach as Frank Solich, who came very close to winning a title with Nebraska, then when he was let go there coached for 20 years straight at a smaller school until he retired because he was about 90 years old. He's not an ELITE coach. and tOSU was very fortunate to have two ELITE coaches in Tressel and then Urban Meyer. Now the fans aren't satisfied with any coach who isn't ELITE.
Sure the loss was tough as a Buckeye fan. But we can appreciate that it was a good game. Michigan was just tougher. Plain and simple. They needed a perfect game, and they got it. Much respect and good luck
Why would you want osu to fire Ryan day?? So they get better?! I love watching cry'n Ryan after they lose to Michigan, year after year. Lifetime contract Go Blue!!
I've been in a complete media blackout since they intercepted McCord on that final drive, and will continue to do so through the end of the football season. Your show is all I can take, cause I know it'll be nothing but factual.
I'm here to ruin your safe space. Honda McCord and the 3rd base coach are just not those guys. Enjoy the losing the Cotton Bowl while 1/3rd of your starters sit out to avoid injury
Funny you mention the military. I use that analogy all the time when talking about what it takes to build a championship team in any type of team atmosphere. I am a former US Marine and one thing I ALWAYS look for and I have been looking at Michigan in this light is a team that fights for each other. That is created by a smart coach who understands that and instills that into his coaching staff and players. You saw what The interim coach said after each of his 3 wins… “thats for you coach Harbaugh, we love you”. When people genuinely love each other and fight for each other you win at whatever it is you are trying to accomplish. Did you see where Harbaugh went Sunday? Thats right here was at the hospital with his injured player and his family. These players would fight and die for each other. They will be national champs!!!
As a veteran myself, I have to say...what a load of BS. As a marine you should be ashamed of using an analogy like fighting and dying for your team mates. It's a game, not a war. Makes me wonder if you really ever served or fought.
@@stevenselleck5460 You're missing my point! I was not talking about his prediction but the fact that as a military man, he was comparing war and military service to a football game. A football game is NOT life or death. It appears that you probably were never in the service and have NO clue what it's like to serve in the military and be in a REAL life or death situation.
Josh, you’ve been talking all season about that “eruption” Saturday. If it happens this weekend, OSU COULD find themselves with a shot making the playoffs. DOUBTFUL, but possible.
Lmfao! Not a chance in hell they make the playoffs. To many teams that are more deserving and better than OSU. Washington could lose to Oregon and both of them would be in before OSU. Washington would be 12-1 and Oregon 12-1. They both have one more win than OSU and comparable resumes. How could you put OSU ahead of either of them if there was chaos with the other games.
OSU hasn't won a big game in years. Lost the B10 to MI 3 years in a row. Day has beat 1 MI team. 2019 MI went 9-4 I think. This with a cupboard full of Urban Meyer players......We beat CL thx to Justin Fields. That's it in 5 years. PSU in faux. ND wasn't that good. Our 1st and ONLY loss to Oregon at home was under Day. This guy is worse than Cooper.
I live in NC and I have NEVER BEEN TO THE BIG HOUSE. BUE ME A TIX and I will go with ya. Hell, I ve never been to a college football game ever and I’m a hardcore Michigan fan dem here in NC!
Looks like Butch Jones Jr (Ryan Day) will be needing a new job.... He has ONE job at Ohio St - go undefeated (which requires you beat Michigan) He's singularly failing in his duties.
as a michigan fan i hope osu fires ryan day because hes a great coach, u dont believe it go watch the georgia game from last year...sure he had stroud but he went against a loaded defense for georgia and should have won that game...hes changed the look of that team over last 2 years
I still get the feeling that we still haven’t seen Michigan’s full playbook. They seem to be going game by game and unleashing more and more and doing just what is necessary to win the game. Would love to see more QB play, more plays with the RB bouncing to the exterior, more RPO, more TE play. Still feels a bit conservative with all these back to back interior runs that just gives you 2-5 yards, maybe each down.
Did you see the interview with Sherrone Moore where he was asked about the Donovan Edwards pass to Colston Loveland? He had a very small smile and simply answered, "We have over 500 plays..." The U of M playbook allows the coaches to develop a game plan around a group of plays (50? 100? Or?) they feel will be most effective against a specific opponent.
As a Michigan fan, I'm stoked we've won THE GAME 3 years in a row. But starting in 2024, this game won't matter as much as it should because of the 12-team playoff. If UM and/or OSU are undefeated going into this game moving forward - which is highly unlikely given the conference additions to the Big10 - both will probably make the playoffs regardless of who wins or loses this game. To me...that sucks!
I'm not so sure about this. The B1G will be tougher with the new additions. Most likely, one or both could have 1 lose going into The Game and possibly fighting for a playoff appearance. I don't know. It's going to be interesting.
The thing is Jim took a pay cut whenever he couldn’t beat Ohio state or win big games. I think Ryan day and Ohio state need to do the same thing instead of firing him
Your take on a Slam Dunk hire has some validity but you forgot someone. Urban Meyer. That’s why Ohio State fans want to move on. They’ve been in this exact same situation and they went for the slam dunk and got to the top of the mountain. Although I do agree with you that most likely it wouldn’t happen again, it’s hard to fault their fan base for wanting to try it again
Harbaugh is still, 5-3 against Ohio state in 9 years. It is like last year when Georgia won back to back national championships and Alabama didn’t go to playoffs. People said sabans rain was over and he is done competing for national titles. Ohio is to talented for this not to turn around.
Josh, may I call you Josh? Love your content but, you got the pick wrong because you let suits and media convince you that sign-stealing had a MATERIAL effect on Michigan's results when I know full damn well you've been covering the SEC long enough to know better. You played feelsball, and it bit you. Nothing that happened Saturday was surprising if you broke down the games these two teams played this year, particularly against common Big 10 opponents. Nobody wants to admit this, but y'all buried Michigan for even PLAYING Minnesota like we had a choice; but then when Ohio State waxed them by less, less impressively, everyone said "Buckeyes are rounding into form." You know what I'm about to tell you; football does not care about your feelings. Sorry mate, love your content regardless.
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Good breakdown. That Team Up North just does a better job of handling adversity. They've been the better team for three years. No excuses. On the Ohio State side, Day is a good coach and I like him, but this might not really be the right job for him. He looks stressed, he cares about the noise, his team is a reflection of him. There's so much pressure in Columbus.
Good break down I feel like Michigan coached better and Michigan was the better team on that day I felt like osu could hang with anyone
I was in attendance for this game, I've never seen so few OSU fans for this game, I've never heard the stadium louder, I think the idea of the big house being quiet has completely flipped. That atmosphere was electric and intimidating. The new press boxes and much bigger video boards are holding in tons of noise. That place was rocking.
has 5000 more seats than the next biggest stadium and then they also always add like 3-4000 more somehow. it has the capacity to be the loudest. btw. i had a friend go there. so my questio is, can jim harbaugh hear you now? :)
@@Johnadams20760 yeah, my uncle went there and it did use to be kinda quiet because nothing was keeping the noise in. It's just completely changed. That is a hostile environment for an opponent to be in.
wow
Mr bigshot went to the big game with is big boy pants on.
Pipe down little pee cart.
We knew Ryan Day and his inconsistent QB was gonna loose, so why wast our money?
@@Johnadams20760crazy thing is attendance was only 110,000 this game. Not the 114,000 that the stadium can technically hold. Was the loudest crowd I’ve seen in the past couple seasons as a season ticket holder.
The way the Michigan team rallied around each other after the Zinter injury is not being talked about enough. Momentum was swinging to Ohio State around then, but Zinter went down and the team went berzerk.
Michigan was already taking back the momentum that whole drive
As a ND fan, a defensive back intercepting a pass to shut down Ohio State's last drive was such a mix of gladness for them and what could have been for us. Almost the same look as our DB missing an interception earlier in the year. Oof
A thought on Ryan day; one of the many reasons that so much weight is put on the Michigan game and he's getting so much criticism is its the one game on their schedule that they don't have a MASSIVE talent advantage. You don't have to be a good coach to beat Michigan st or Minnesota with that roster. The measure of a coach is what happens when the talent is fairly equal. And in those games his record is unimpressive
It was a great game. I'm a Buckeye fan so it was tough to take another loss to Michigan. That said, Michigan has been the better team the last 3 years. I am old enough to have experienced the pendulum swing one way and the other over the decades. It happens. OSU had a tremendous run against UM from 2000 to 2019, winning 17 times in that period. Tressel went 9-1 vs UM. Luke Fickel lost in his interim year. Then Urban went 7-0 vs UM. The Ryan Day won his first game in 2019. Ryan would have won the game in 2020 but it was cancelled due to Covid. But credit Michigan for being patient with Harbaugh and now he has won the last 3. Harbaugh is now 3-5 vs OSU but these last 3 years have been impressive because UM also has one of the better teams in the country. So now we will see how Ohio State responds. All that said the Buckeyes played well and it was not a blowout like last year. The difference in this game was QB play. OSU had an inexperienced first-year guy and UM had a good veteran. Congrat to my Michigan friends. I hope we get you next year. As for Ryan Day being fired that is nothing more than OSU fans letting the rivalry get to them. Yes, it's a big deal but you don't just go fire a coach who is 56-7 in his 5 years of coaching. Unless you know for fact that you can bring back Urban I'm not sure getting rid of Ryan Day solves any issues.
They did keep Cooper for 13 years before firing him for losing to Michigan, but that was also a different time.
Ohio St had one of the longest runs of dominance in the rivalry for 20 yrs. Usually the swings were 3-4 games than every other.. than the other team has a run of 3-4 in a row. Best rivalry in sports. And it's been rejuvenated. I was tense all game. Great game, outcome was better for me obviously. But impressed by Ohio St defense this yr in The Game
HOW YA FIGURE THAT bS?! College kids have a short memory. Now the momentum is back w ttun!!!! After years of BUCKEYE COACH DOMINATION!!!!THE KRYPTONITE TO WOLVERINES.....ARE BUCKEYES!!!
I'm happy if he rivalry gets back to the 3-4 year swings. No more 19-1 stretches. Although my Buckeye friends loved that, it took alot outta the game.
@@blucaptain The losing streak was extended due to what OSU fans are clamouring to do to Ryan Day right now. Michigan made a bad hire with Rich Rodriguez and followed it up with Brady Hoke. They just terminated their coach with no replacement plan.
I am thankful to Jesus that I was able to attend that game. That was my first ever time going to a Michigan game. It was SO LOUD. Go Blue baby.〽️〽️〽️
Congratulations on getting to Ann Arbor. Once you go one time, you affirm your fandom for life. There is NOWHERE equal to the Big House (and Ann Arbor in general).
@@zward0522 💯 It was surreal
Ryan Day is now 1-3 against Michigan.
@@lulud7540lol
1-2 vs harabaugh. 0-1 vs a nobody coach 😂
@@austinadams7120 And his starting quarterback just hit the transfer portal.
No Head Coach….
Lost your best Offensive Lineman.
Lost your best Corner Back.
Ryan Day just got punked by a coach who was assuming 3 roles as Offensive Line Coach, Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach.
Imagine knowing which cards the other players had in their hands. In Vegas they take a hammer to your hands, in Michigan they give them a raise.
@@marciaskenlol cry harder
@marciasken in high school, we had new signs every week for our games. Why can't the #2 team in the nations arguably the biggest game of the year change their signs? This was a playoff game, so I would expect both teams to do everything to win this game. These are d1 college athletes, and some will go to the next level, no reason they can't come up with new signs for this game.
Outside of Marvin Harrison and maybe JTT name a first round pick on Ohio States entire roster? Don’t worry I’ll wait… Y’all have Corum, JJ, Will Johnson, and Zak Zinter that are all mocked to be first round picks as well as another 3-4 second round picks on your roster as well in Sainristil, Moore, Nugent and Johnson. Not to mention y’all were literally favored to win and had home field advantage as well as 80% of the media picking you to win, and half of those 80% picking you to win by a landslide.
@@TheFatherof2and how many 5 stars does OSU have compared to Michigan? This is a horrible excuse because it literally shows how much better Michigan is despite having inferior recruiting.
Buckeye fan here and I was hesitant to click on this video, but you deliver such a balanced, rational analysis. Thanks for helping me in my recovery 😂
Last pass that was intercepted was a 50/50 ball Harrison saw it would be a big contact play and pulled up. Can't believe no one's talking about it
Would like your thoughts?
I saw that too, on the replay
He likewise didn’t contest the Will Johnson pick, and stood there as Johnson scrambled toward the endzone.
In 2021, Michigan beat Ohio State because of physicality and efficiency. The Wolverines dominated the Buckeyes on both lines of scrimmage and moved the ball up and down the field with rampant efficiency through both the run and passing game.
In 2022, Michigan beat Ohio State because of explosive plays. Michigan forced Ohio State to meticulously drive the ball down the field with consistency while generating 5 plays of 40+ yards themselves.
While the last 2 seasons felt like Michigan taking advantage of a matchup and winning through that aspect (lines of scrimmage in 2021 and secondary in 2022), this felt different. Michigan beat Ohio State by just straight up being the better team. The Wolverines stayed on schedule offensively more effectively and even for as well played the game generally was, Michigan always both responded and/or stayed a step or two ahead. Their quarterback didn’t make mistakes, their run game stepped up more, and their defense got crucial stops and turnovers.
Josh nailed it, Michigan’s entire operation is just a little ahead of Ohio State’s right now, and this team is absolutely capable of winning a national championship. They’ve been the most consistently dominant team all season and should probably be #1 in the playoff rankings tomorrow, and I say that as a Georgia fan.
As a Michigan fan, that is 100% spot minus us being #1. Until someone De-thrones Georgia, they are the best team. It would be a great game if Michigan and Georgia played.
Prior to the alleged sign-stealing in 2021 Michigan had an average rank of 31 in points allowed under Harbaugh. Since the alleged scheme began that has risen to an average rank of 5th.
Correlation doesn’t equal causality, but the timing of Michigan’s rapid defensive rise is a little suspect. Outside of their 2016 season the team was middling defensively, and now they are one of the most dominant units in FBS.
In addition, 2021 was when Michigan signed Harbaugh to a massive four-year extension that paid him $7.3M per year - and came after a woeful COVID-shortened 2020 in which rumors began that the coach might be looking to return to the NFL. This was furthered in 2022 when Harbaugh interviewed with the Minnesota Vikings over their head coaching vacancy, and was linked to the Las Vegas Raiders job, before ultimately deciding to return to Michigan.
So as a total package we have a coach who was under a lot of pressure to win to justify his new contract, with a history of breaching NCAA rules, and at least flirtations with the NFL to potentially return. It’s far from a smoking gun, but it is a breeding ground where sign-stealing could have become a viable option to meet these goals.
@@marciasken
Michigan scoring defense ranks under Harbaugh
2015: 4th
2016: 2nd
2017: 9th
2018: 14th
2019: 19th
2020: 93rd
2021: 7th
2022: 6th
2023: Currently 1st
Michigan had a good defense every year under Harbaugh outside of 2020, which was a COVID year with conference isolation, no fans, cancelled games, etc. Just an odd year.
@marciasken Michigan has always had solid defenses under Harbaugh, but our offense has been missing an elite QB and several other pieces, which we have now. Covid year was a complete disaster for Michigan, but that is the one outlier, and after that year, they got a new defensive coordinator and new defensive identity
You’re a fool! How about Harbaugh went and hired McDonald from the Ravens. That had a lot to do with it. But even when Don Brown was the DC they still had top 10 defenses. They just couldn’t match up with the good teams on defense. Michigan has had just as many guys go to the NFL the last 9 years as OSU had. I can’t stand when idiots just speculate
Probably the best evaluation of the game and the rivalry on UA-cam.
That pick early on was the difference. Can’t make that kinda mistake in a rivalry game on the road. Especially when you don’t have a special QB who can make up for that kind of mistake
I could accept this if Michigan put the game away. In light of their having failed to do so, it was the late pick that was the difference.
The missed FG too.
Like Seahawks in Superbowl, dummies decided to pass.
In Regards to Ryan Day, I need to bring this up for Ohio State and Michigan Fans Sake:
What we're asking about him now is the EXACT SAME Question we were asking about Jim Harbough 3 Years Ago.
What's different now is that the Roles have been Reversed, and now we're going to see if Ohio State is as patient with Ryan Day as Michigan was with Jim Harbough.
And to me, that will Speak VOLUMES about Ohio State compared to Michigan Now.
It was a Great Game, No Question about it, but now the question shifts to what Ohio State does now.
AND ALL EYES ARE WATCHING.
What can they do? They out recruit the entire conference and have for decades. They out spend the entire conference by a landslide. They have the best facilities. Etc etc.
The only thing Ohio State can do is pray that the new additions to the conference actually do raise the level of competition. Significantly.
Well put. I’ll be the first to admit that I was one of the people saying that we should be rid of Harbaugh in 2019 because he had 5 chances to beat OSU and the closest we got was 2016. But I’ve never been happier to be wrong. 2020 was rough, but I’m glad that the higher ups had faith in his system and his vision. I feel that Ryan is a good coach and he can cement himself as a great one, especially because the pressure of THE GAME won’t be as high next year.
OSU should be and will be fine, they recruit the best and 2 of Michigans wins against Day aren’t legit due to the cheating, I’m not dismissing the cheating so Day gets a pass from me, Michigan won this fair and square and OSU had a chance to win the game as it want a blowout. When the stars align so with the qb, offense and defense OSU will be even better and win a natty with Day. We’ll be fine vs Michigan cause they’re going to the dark ages and OSU wins next year at home, we’re good
For OSU it really comes down to one thing. When they have a semi mobile top tier QB the offense shines and puts up 40 or more each game. Their offense is not built for pro style smashmouth. Now that they have a really strong defense, if they get someone who is more in line with Fields and Stroud and remember to keep using guys like Trayanum who is a better back than Henderson, they're NC level. They should leave the coaching tree alone except getting an OC that is more in line with the previous one but keep Hartline as he's their best recruiter.
@@alycynde5237 chip is not better than Trey, OSU fans keep going back and forth with Trey after a game lol. Trey is our best back
Blake is a Michigan legend. As a Michigan fan, 1 I hate but respect that OSU team. Don’t like Day but I believe he talked to Zinters parents. That was classy. 2 I am conflicted at the scandals. Because these kids are just that good, driven and focused. That last part is what I celebrate.
As a Michigan fan it became a lot harder to hate Day after seeing an ESPN piece on his dads suicide and his work around mental health. I actually felt a little bad for him on Saturday as much as I hate to admit it
As a Michigan fan and HS coach this was a great commentary. Ryan Day has to what Jimmy was forced to do define the Identity of his team, and live or die by that culture. My undefeated teams required me to chew on the loss for months like dry beef jerky.🤨 Great coaches hate to loose more than the love to win.
I was there in 1995
Biaccabatu got 303 and UM knocked OSU out of the BCS.
The BCS wasn't around back then
@@kendallandrews8691you’re right! They still played in the rose bowl game like they would have anyway. Difference is winning the rose bowl might have gave them a split title with Nebraska. Although that 95’ cornhuskers were fierce.
313 yards
Let's all remember that all of this "sign stealing" hull-a-baloo started with Ryan Day hiring his brother-in-law to dig up dirt on Michigan. And then the Big 10 penalizing the Wolverines without any kind of hearing of finding of facts. Michigan was simply pissed ... because the press simply isn't covering this story in a balanced way.
Started with stealing the signs. Don't blame others for michigan's mistakes.
@@vw8886cry.
@vw8886 no, it started with Jim Tressel paying players, getting force retired, then urban Meyer doing the same thing, being force retired, and Jim Tressel getting let go from Youngstown state for being the same scum bag he's always been. OSU is just pathetic and needed to hire a PI to find a reason why they are terrible. gtfo
Wait, Michigan fans actually believe that story. Omg I thought the jokes about the Michigan media cult weren’t this serious but damn, u won the game & will face no further punishments until another Harbaugh suspension next year if he decides to stay. Now that u have no reason to care if Michigan was cheating please actually look into the origins of that story & come to your own conclusions
@@anthonytitoneyeah, no one cares about what you think you know anymore. Michigan embarrassed ohio again without a head coach, let alone needing stolen signs to beat your weak AF team. Good luck in the Motor City Bowl 🤣
Michigan vs Georgia Resume Comparison (11 major statistics covering offense, defense, special teams, and overall resume)
9-2 in favor of Michigan
Strength of Schedule:
Michigan - 36
Georgia - 59
Strength of Record:
Michigan - 1
Georgia - 4
Best 2 wins:
Michigan - Home vs. #6 Ohio State, Away vs. #10 Penn State
Georgia - Home vs. #11 Ole Miss, Home vs. #9 Missouri
Worst Win:
Michigan - Away vs. #46 Maryland (31-24)
Georgia - Home vs. #56 Auburn (27-20)
Minutes Trailing in Second Half:
Michigan - 0
Georgia - 23:20
Scoring Offense:
Michigan - 13 (37.6)
Georgia - 8 (39.6)
Scoring Defense:
Michigan - 1 (10.25)
Georgia - 6 (15.75)
Field Goal Percentage:
Michigan - tied 16
Georgia - 14
Net Punting:
Michigan - 10 (42.28)
Georgia - 13 (42.00)
Average Margin of Victory:
Michigan - 1 (27.3)
Georgia - 4 (22.3)
Turnover Margin:
Michigan - 3
Georgia - tied 62
People also wanted Harbaugh out. I said the same thing you are saying about Day. Harbaugh needs to stay. A lot of fans go off of emotion not logic. Day is a good coach. Good luck finding someone better.
Harbaugh is coaching in the nfl next season
You know this How? Are you privy to this sort of insider information? Please, explain yourself.
GO BLUE
@irish6783 No he isn't. He has full control of Michigan and it's his dream job. He would never work for the McCaskeys, and they only like doofuses that are "yes" men.
This did not age well. Go Bucks
Fun fact! In the last 3 Ohio state/ Michigan meetings Michigan in the second half has only punted 1 time. 😮
RYAN DAY BORN ON 3RD BASE THINKS HE HIT A TRIPPLE
@@lulud7540 RYAN DAY BORN ON THIRD THINKS HE HIT A TRIPLE
Josh's word is, "Organization." Michigan's word is "The Team." Besides the skill and the plans and the plays and the coaching, Michigan has just plain out-cultured OSU for three straight years now.
What happened the previous 8 years (2012-2020), or the 6 - 17 Record owned by OSU, since 2000?
As a casual college football fan, this game has always been the biggest game of the year for as far as I can remember. For whatever reason, you didn’t even notice the southern rivalries in the northeast & until the last decade or so, you didn’t have outlets to watch SEC/ACC football takes like this channel. Maybe Notre Dame vs USC was second, but a distant one. College football is a regional sport.
Everyone busy talking about OSU, maybe breakdown the team who won the game.
I don't disagree with the idea that slam dunk hires are few and far between, but you seem to have forgotten one other recent slam dunk hire--and it was one made by Ohio State. Urban Meyer had won two championships when he was hired and went on to win another with Ohio State. There's nobody really out there with that pedigree now though, unless they pull Dabo away from Clemson somehow (Saban and Smart are clearly never leaving their respective schools).
Even as a Michigan fan I can’t help but agree. The dude was a fantastic coach for them
Yea but realistically Urban, Saban, and Kirby are the only examples in terms of coming into a program and building it to championship caliber.
@@jackpackage4278Dabo had the hardest road to making a contender with the least resources and winning pedigree at his school.
@@DudeEggs right, but he wasn’t a national championship coach coming in. We’re talking about a coach who has won a natty and then went to another program and won a natty there too. There’s like maybe 3 coaches I think could do that rn.
Best review of the game out period none biased and just factually correct. Well done 👏
Biggest Issue: GET MARVIN THE BALL.
You literally have a roadmap for how to do this. In the 2021 natty, Davanta Smith carved us up by running all over the field pre-snap. It’s very difficult to bracket or double-team somebody when they are the fastest player in college football and you’re running thru linebackers to stay with them.
Hand the ball off to him, run screens, put him in the freaking wildcat… do whatever you have to do to make sure he gets the ball 20-25 times. Not 5 times. 🤯🤯🤯
Can we give Josh pate credit for always giving teams credit when they earn it?
urban meyer was a clear grand slam when hired by osu
Our coach at Michigan is a great coach
Uhhhhh ya think. 90% of FBS teams would be better if they hired him today.
@@jtpower99especially of they have Stalions too!
Michigan fan here, would not shock me one bit if Meyer returned to Columbus one day if results don't change on the 3rd weekend of November..
I was there this year and three years ago. It s an epic experience.
Most wins all time. Most Big Ten championships. More straight up wins against Ohio. Michigan is God.
I said in the beginning of the year that the Turner transfer was under appreciated. Their special teams lost 2 big guys but were able to have very competent re-fills.
Whats crazy about Michigan is that the offensive play calling had been compromised since Harbaugh has been out and they’ve still been good enough to win. Hopefully we don’t call 40 inside zone reads for 1-2 yards in the playoffs
tell me about it! lol
it's rare-sometimes quarterbacks do win titles with non-elite organizations. See Jameis Winston and Cam Newton.
QB level of play is the reason Ohio State has dominated in Big 10 most of the time in the past 2 decades. McCord reminds me of Todd Boeckman level of QB play. He just does not go through progressions like good qbs need to. Maybe he will take a leap next year but typically you would just go to a more explosive, younger QB after losing out with this talented of a roster. Day will not be fired and that talk is stupid. The one thing that is crazy from the game is that they did not force feed the ball to Harrison on easy completions- he is a monster. Was disappointed that Harrison did not try to tackle, fight through, or play defense on that first terrible interception. The missed OPI on Cornelious Johnson was a game killer on the last long drive by MI. Overall a much better performance than last year from Buckeyes.
I am curious how much losing Kevin Wilson took out of our offensive performance this year. I'm pretty sure he contributed a ton to the offenses in the previous Day years and I wonder if Hartline still needs to grow to fill that void. Just because Hartline is an awesome recruiter and WR coach doesn't mean he filled that void. Justin Frye doesn't seem to be delivering on the hype and the special teams clearly need an overhaul with the liability they are.
If we get up 21+ on Iowa, we need to sit JJ. We need him healthy if Michigan is gonna make a run. His running ability when healthy is gamechanging.
Completely agree with your assessment of OSU-MICHIGAN game
This is why I always bet against your picks. Made some good money.
How do you sleep at night? Coach : On top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies!?!
I’ve attended the Game. I went to Virginia Tech and experienced Enter Sandman countless times. And I’m telling you the Indy 500 is the peak of sports. You can’t even phantom what that shit is like unless you go. 350,000+ it’s WILD
I’m sure an 8 million dollar ice pack can help when you get your butt kicked. 🤣🤣🤣
A little disappointed that Farmageddon turned Snowmageddon wasn’t talked about. That game was so much fun to watch. Abu Sama was The Dawg. Roll Clones!!!
Can you post the video of Day attempting to pump up his players before the game?
When your coach is soft, the team is soft. You fire Day because he’s faking tough. Ohio State will always get the talent and you can hire great assistants. You find the head coach with the disposition that you want for your whole program. If OSU wants a team in Day’s image you keep him. It’s not about his record when they only play two good teams every year.
Ryan Day is to Ohio St what Butch Jones was to Tennessee some years ago - toxic and weak
We at UM want Day to stay, but you are crazy.
But that 🧔 beard though 😅
Michigan has been focused on wining a natty and Ohio was focused on beating Michigan
Look how Josh Pate (A Soft SEC yet objective commentator) understands how important The Game is. Critique Ryan Day yet still give Michigan credit. The most objective college football commentator and this as a Michigan fan!
16:17 You mention Saban as a Grand slam hire with an established championship pedigree, but you forget that OSU made the more/most recent Grand slam hire in Urban Meyer. They have reason to think they can somehow catch lightning in a bottle again, but they should beware that hires like Jimbo haven't worked out.
Nahhh Saban is better coach than meyer
@@stevesalisbury3657 I didn't say one was better, I said OSU made the grand slam hire more recently. And Meyer definitely was a grand slam hire - I don't think OSU has hired a better coach during my lifetime.
@highseasbanditry urban is a great foitball mind,as michigan fan I love his breakdowns of plays . He's very very good coach
I disagree. For Michigan fans we’ve seen our quarterbacks getting outplayed for years. With JJ there’s a certain confidence in him and he delivers. Put in one of our old QBs with this team (Shea Patterson, O’Korn, Mccaffrey, Brandon Peters, Wilton Speight, Joe Milton). If we win it all I’d say JJ delivered us a championship, just as much if not more as Donovan Edwards, Blake Corum, Sainristil
CONGRATS Matt
regarding the slam dunk head coach hire, other than saban, it's only urban meyer. I say this as a michigan fan, but he's by far the best head coach I've seen. Examples below.
Utah before urban: 5-6
Utah after Urban: 12 - 0 their second year.
Florida before urban: 7-5
Florida after urban: championship second year, and 3, 13-1 seasons in 6 years
OSU before urban: 8 - 4
OSU after urban: Undefeated first year, championship by 3rd year, and 83-9 overall.
Dude may have off the field problems, but as a coach there's literally nobody better except nick saban (and i give saban his respect due to being consistently dominant and building a dynasty).
In my opinion he's waiting for his opportunity with a USC or A&M perhaps. He's not gonna go back to the B1G though
"Where you going?" What a great question!
Ohio just isn’t tough enough.. too soft
OSU has been beating up on some historically bad Wolverines teams over the last two decades. Harbaugh lost his first five but he is getting close to evening up the series against some great Buckeye teams. When the playing field is level, Michigan dominates.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I thought Urban Meyer was a better coach (college) than Jim but Jims a better coach (college) than Ryan Day at least for this type of game. I would hate to see Ryan Day fired because I believe every year he is developing his players more and more and is developing as a coach more and more. I think Ohio State is headed in the right direction, just need to be patient. Ryan Day is fairly new to primetime college football and being a head coach, give him time.
The thing is.. Jim took over a Michigan program that was the worst in history. Urban was already building a juggernaut at the time. Get those 2 coaches on even sides and I bet Jim would come out the winner
Michigan fan here.
Instead of Ryan Day worrying about getting fired, Ohio State fans should be worried about him quitting.
And go where?
@@bk6555 Somewhere where there's less pressure and the expectations aren't insane. He could go to a MAC team and coach forever , like Frank Solich did.
He’s right about “it’s a team “ a former Detroit Tiger pitcher said the reason they lost the 2012 WS is because they didn’t have a team leader! Can you believe that?! Miggy was the man but also Verlander. Damn
Michigan is a solid team where if you blitz too much on defense it turns into Penn State getting ran by. However, you have to get after JJ and not just with 4 because he'll leak out and make a couple plays. He had his second worse QBR of the season against the blitz. Problem was OSU only ran 4 blitzes. Not to mention the abysmal LB play from OSU and that was the game. The first INT was huge and gifted UM 7 points and set the tone for the game. You can't let UM get up by 10, they'll just sit on the ball the rest of the game.
Michigan needs to be ranked #1 now.
I enjoyed your commentary.
OSU fans consider this a down year and want to fire a coach when they go 11-1, lol. On the other hand, Michigan fans get a couple wins under their belt and think they're an elite program, lol.
I was at the game this weekend and left with 1:05 left in the game. Go Blue!
Why would you brag about leaving The Game early? Lame as F
Josh sure talked a lot, but he didn’t say much
Josh, you make a good point that one game shouldn't define a coach. But, as you said, Ryan Day has six losses that matter: three at the championship level, and three at the rivalry level. Both are arguably more impactful to both the program and the fanbase than any other regular season game normally would be. So yes, he might be a really damn good coach, but if his ceiling is being unable to win the games that DO matter more than anything else, then how good of a coach is he, really? In the context of sports as a whole, it's not the easy matchups that matter. It's the hardest, toughest, weirdest moments that really test your mental toughness, as you mentioned. As a Michigan fan, I personally don't think OSU fans calling for Ryan Day's head is an overreaction, but I also think it's invalid in some ways. Michigan has the deepest, toughest team in college football this year. Period. Ohio couldn't handle us even at our best because, as you said, they're player-reliant rather than player-led.
Ryan Day is a very good coach. He may even be an excellent coach. I think he's about as good a coach as Frank Solich, who came very close to winning a title with Nebraska, then when he was let go there coached for 20 years straight at a smaller school until he retired because he was about 90 years old.
He's not an ELITE coach. and tOSU was very fortunate to have two ELITE coaches in Tressel and then Urban Meyer. Now the fans aren't satisfied with any coach who isn't ELITE.
Sure the loss was tough as a Buckeye fan. But we can appreciate that it was a good game. Michigan was just tougher. Plain and simple. They needed a perfect game, and they got it. Much respect and good luck
Huge Michigan fan and there is nothing I want more than to see OSU fire Ryan day.
Why would you want osu to fire Ryan day?? So they get better?! I love watching cry'n Ryan after they lose to Michigan, year after year. Lifetime contract
Go Blue!!
I've been in a complete media blackout since they intercepted McCord on that final drive, and will continue to do so through the end of the football season.
Your show is all I can take, cause I know it'll be nothing but factual.
🫵😂!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm here to ruin your safe space. Honda McCord and the 3rd base coach are just not those guys. Enjoy the losing the Cotton Bowl while 1/3rd of your starters sit out to avoid injury
soft
Funny you mention the military. I use that analogy all the time when talking about what it takes to build a championship team in any type of team atmosphere. I am a former US Marine and one thing I ALWAYS look for and I have been looking at Michigan in this light is a team that fights for each other. That is created by a smart coach who understands that and instills that into his coaching staff and players. You saw what The interim coach said after each of his 3 wins… “thats for you coach Harbaugh, we love you”. When people genuinely love each other and fight for each other you win at whatever it is you are trying to accomplish. Did you see where Harbaugh went Sunday? Thats right here was at the hospital with his injured player and his family. These players would fight and die for each other. They will be national champs!!!
As a veteran myself, I have to say...what a load of BS. As a marine you should be ashamed of using an analogy like fighting and dying for your team mates. It's a game, not a war. Makes me wonder if you really ever served or fought.
@@christhornton1785 he knows what he's talking about- read the last sentence
@@stevenselleck5460 What I questioned had nothing to do with whether they would be champions.
@@christhornton1785 his premise led to a correct prediction yet you disagree with the premise... he's correct
@@stevenselleck5460 You're missing my point! I was not talking about his prediction but the fact that as a military man, he was comparing war and military service to a football game. A football game is NOT life or death. It appears that you probably were never in the service and have NO clue what it's like to serve in the military and be in a REAL life or death situation.
Glad i faded the public and the Michigan was at home which made bet feel more confident
Josh, you’ve been talking all season about that “eruption” Saturday. If it happens this weekend, OSU COULD find themselves with a shot making the playoffs. DOUBTFUL, but possible.
Lmfao! Not a chance in hell they make the playoffs. To many teams that are more deserving and better than OSU. Washington could lose to Oregon and both of them would be in before OSU. Washington would be 12-1 and Oregon 12-1. They both have one more win than OSU and comparable resumes. How could you put OSU ahead of either of them if there was chaos with the other games.
I'm a OSU fan I don't want to see the playoffs McCord embarrass the team again he's trash
Go Blue!
JJ 27-1 as a starter incredible
OSU hasn't won a big game in years. Lost the B10 to MI 3 years in a row. Day has beat 1 MI team. 2019 MI went 9-4 I think. This with a cupboard full of Urban Meyer players......We beat CL thx to Justin Fields. That's it in 5 years. PSU in faux. ND wasn't that good. Our 1st and ONLY loss to Oregon at home was under Day. This guy is worse than Cooper.
JOSH WAS WRONG AGAIN WHAT AH SURPRISE 😂😂😂😂 GOBLUE!!
I live in NC and I have NEVER BEEN TO THE BIG HOUSE. BUE ME A TIX and I will go with ya. Hell, I ve never been to a college football game ever and I’m a hardcore Michigan fan dem here in NC!
where did all the buckeyes go ?
Michigan is the best player lead team in the nation...
Looks like Butch Jones Jr (Ryan Day) will be needing a new job.... He has ONE job at Ohio St - go undefeated (which requires you beat Michigan) He's singularly failing in his duties.
Ryan Day’s record vs ranked teams is not good.
I wish Michigan had beaten Ohio more convincingly. Got some work to do.
The comparison of sports to war is not a bad one. Sports are what is meant to replace war in a civil society.
as a michigan fan i hope osu fires ryan day because hes a great coach, u dont believe it go watch the georgia game from last year...sure he had stroud but he went against a loaded defense for georgia and should have won that game...hes changed the look of that team over last 2 years
I did experience it. You are right.
I still get the feeling that we still haven’t seen Michigan’s full playbook. They seem to be going game by game and unleashing more and more and doing just what is necessary to win the game. Would love to see more QB play, more plays with the RB bouncing to the exterior, more RPO, more TE play. Still feels a bit conservative with all these back to back interior runs that just gives you 2-5 yards, maybe each down.
Exactly. When (not if) our run game gets shut down in the playoffs we’re going to see a veteran JJ cook. Think the TCU game without the pick sixes
Did you see the interview with Sherrone Moore where he was asked about the Donovan Edwards pass to Colston Loveland? He had a very small smile and simply answered, "We have over 500 plays..." The U of M playbook allows the coaches to develop a game plan around a group of plays (50? 100? Or?) they feel will be most effective against a specific opponent.
Ive been calling out special teams too.
Turnovers and special teams.
Hey Mike Vrabel!?! How you doin’ down there? Long time. It’s Brutus. Just thought I’d give ya a call….
Urban was a grand slam hire. Dabo would be a grand slam hire too.
Urban Meyer is ineligible to coach in the NCAA. or he would be
As a Michigan fan, I'm stoked we've won THE GAME 3 years in a row. But starting in 2024, this game won't matter as much as it should because of the 12-team playoff. If UM and/or OSU are undefeated going into this game moving forward - which is highly unlikely given the conference additions to the Big10 - both will probably make the playoffs regardless of who wins or loses this game. To me...that sucks!
I'm not so sure about this. The B1G will be tougher with the new additions. Most likely, one or both could have 1 lose going into The Game and possibly fighting for a playoff appearance. I don't know. It's going to be interesting.
The top 4 seeding will be HUGE as it is an automatic bye. Resting up is what any teams would love to have.
OSU "can" dump a 10-1 coach and hire a new one, and what if the new one is 8-3 for 3 years?
When you have a great idea what plays the opposing team are going to run, you’re going to win games…
Notice how the other teams average scores went up after the scouting story broke??
Isn't it funny how their record vs Michigan didn't change ?
How many times have you seen a team win against a team who were only penalized once in the whole game!
No. This game is called THE GAME for a reason. It does depend on THIS game.
The thing is Jim took a pay cut whenever he couldn’t beat Ohio state or win big games. I think Ryan day and Ohio state need to do the same thing instead of firing him
Grew up maize and blue lived in B'ham when Auburn was good. The Game > Iron Bowl
Your take on a Slam Dunk hire has some validity but you forgot someone. Urban Meyer. That’s why Ohio State fans want to move on. They’ve been in this exact same situation and they went for the slam dunk and got to the top of the mountain. Although I do agree with you that most likely it wouldn’t happen again, it’s hard to fault their fan base for wanting to try it again
Harbaugh is still, 5-3 against Ohio state in 9 years. It is like last year when Georgia won back to back national championships and Alabama didn’t go to playoffs. People said sabans rain was over and he is done competing for national titles. Ohio is to talented for this not to turn around.
Josh, may I call you Josh? Love your content but, you got the pick wrong because you let suits and media convince you that sign-stealing had a MATERIAL effect on Michigan's results when I know full damn well you've been covering the SEC long enough to know better. You played feelsball, and it bit you. Nothing that happened Saturday was surprising if you broke down the games these two teams played this year, particularly against common Big 10 opponents. Nobody wants to admit this, but y'all buried Michigan for even PLAYING Minnesota like we had a choice; but then when Ohio State waxed them by less, less impressively, everyone said "Buckeyes are rounding into form."
You know what I'm about to tell you; football does not care about your feelings. Sorry mate, love your content regardless.